Destiny 2 - Echoes: Act 2 | Developer Livestream

Join members of the Bungie Dev team for our developer livestream, showcasing Act II of Episode: Echoes. Enjoy an early look at the upcoming story, exotics, missions, and more!

[@dadankengine4661]

Whoa whoa whoa “we” didn’t abandon Failsafe *the narrative team* did lmao

[@legomojo]

Yeah. I personally visited her all the time for bounties!

[@ecci0261]

Nah I definitely abandoned Failsafe. Haven’t stepped on Nessus in years.

[@aviatorengineer3491]

Right?? I wanted her to come with us on the HELM as soon as we started using it. She's a ship AI and we've had a ship for years!

[@burnin8able]

@@ecci0261 even when you could have gone FISHING on Nessus!?! you monster.

[@agirlnamedmichael1670]

THIS lol

[@chiccimusnuggimus9055]

Strange how they still won’t let Eriana one tap barriers even though wish ender can

[@jonathanbryant5400]

I mean if you crit them technically it is a one tap

[@s1umpy372]

@@jonathanbryant5400 trust me it doesn't

[@SkyRecruit18]

Ignitions, wish ender can't

[@ScaredWatched]

Ones a special ones a primary ​@@SkyRecruit18

[@dom20141]

Very niche complaint imo

[@gamz]

Solar rocket sidearm with heal clip/incandescent AND demo/pugilist?

[@submachinegun5737]

Full perk list has been in the api and 3rd party websites for a while, it looks so good

[@djstanley1300]

Hype

[@morganpriest7726]

And the ADS animation is sooooooo good

[@stevie_caldwell]

JUICED

[@oxsila]

it's almost like heliocentric but rocket sidearm version lol. gonna be nutty

[@ImTiredMan]

I'm terrified knowing that the chickens can teleport now

[@chem2430]

With bungie's net code they always could

[@MrDrapichrust]

They already did in Glassway.

[@szilardpinter2190]

They can already, from bug to feature i guess

[@fulgerion]

You new here? All enemies teleport. Ever see a teleporting tormentor?? Yea. It's Bungies bad programming correcting itself. When Enemies can't move over a small pebble, they relocate instead. Sometimes, they relocate in your face, or directly behind you. They also teleport out of your rockets, grenades. It's amusing. Any object that may collider with them, they will instantly blip to avoid it. And ignorant people want Destiny 3 on the same engine?? LOL. It will all of the same, if not worse problems than Destiny 2 has. This engine is extremely dated. No one wants a Bethesda ancient level engine for a modern game.

[@Opbee12]

@@fulgerion They were just talking about the chickens no need to go on a rant

[@MattYellows]

BUNGIE PLEASE DONT FORGET ABOUT ONSLAUGHT. I love that mode and it's what got me into destiny. I want more maps and more different weapons to farm in that. So simple and yet so fun

[@Beeschurger0818]

Good luck with that, bungie always make something good and let it rot with no updates

[@prithvishyamalan824]

They said in an article that they will expand onslaught

[@Toymonkeyjr]

so you just started playing?

[@giga-egg]

@@Beeschurger0818 *cries in gambit*

[@Deano1985100]

That won't happen !!

[@dredgen0268]

God I can’t wait to have people go from “time gating sucks” to “I got all the gameplay done in 1 day-we need more content”

[@redcrystal7x]

Then it'll morph into "Well, Bungie's just not making content fast enough".

[@sc5the]

jfc stop glazing it’s not hard to release content that last for at least a full season.

[@Gortosan]

@@sc5the show us

[@bruiseleeroy7010]

​@@sc5theThe content does last all season?? What and how would you make?

[@axelkusanagi4139]

Lasts all season...for speed runners too. People who don't unequip an eager edge sword unless it's the DPS phase and then they swap loadouts ten times a second

[@MidweekGaming]

Will we ever see big changes to the patrol space Tho? still feels weird to see all the terraforming go away the minute we leave the episode missions.

[@karenruk9140]

Theres nothing wrong with taking breaks and playing at your own pace. Other games exist. Although im glad they’re listening to fans. Whatever the case, i know Bungo is cooking

[@kojeb]

you can take a break regardless of their content schedule, i never understood this argument

[@brmawe]

What exactly are they cooking? More content? Sure that's ok but quality over quantity should be the main priority. Episodes are just Seasons chopped down a bit. Same mission structure, monotone dialogue. I wish Acts were more experimental like certain sections of Nessus have gravity pools that throw you around or something like that. Or the underwater sections in The Deep Season, I think people would be more excited or intrigued imo but that's just me 😄.

[@karenruk9140]

@@kojeb and? We dont know the ins and outs behind the scenes. People complain either way anyway regardless of what comes out and Bungee still listens and adjusts based on feedback.

[@kojeb]

@@karenruk9140 to say “people” is a bit reductive, its not the same people asking for both less and more time gating for example. i personally believe the time gating discussion is being exacerbated recently with the underwhelming act 1, which was effectively just 1 or 2 seasonal weeks of content

[@karenruk9140]

@@kojeb i don’t disagree with you. But that season followed a huge expansion. From the looks of it they’re going for a 3 act structure and it seems like they’ve created more time for themselves to adjust to whatever the feedback is. Its a huge game, its hard to please everyone. They made a special PVP unit to cater to the pvp community. They’re adjusting the seasonal mode because the old model got stale. Do you expect a fix overnight?

[@thealoofhermit]

starts at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="953">15:53</a>

[@mikeali2693]

Your a hero

[@JustAFishBeingAFish]

You are the best type of commentor

[@bigman2519]

Bless you friend

[@pedrosanchez700]

You da goat

[@jaysinart]

What a beast

[@TitanGoPunch]

Can we change the elemental mods (flinching, targeting etc) to not be tied to an element. It's really dumb to keep changing mods bc I decide to switch a weapon mid match.

[@burnin8able]

The titan solstice armor set looks like it draws heavy Rocket Man or WWII bomber pilot inspiration, very excited for that

[@Genehsys]

Love how when they’re talking about one two punch build they go straight to combo blow Hunter…rip titans.

[@Kideem]

Whisper boutta be nasty and im ready for it. Cool to see anti barrier sniper back again. Im also excited to try the erianas vow buffs. hopefully it pushes it into the meta.

[@alext9550]

On pc maybe. Console flinches wayyyy too much to use like they do in this footage

[@SkyRecruit18]

​@@alext955050% reduction across the board big dawg

[@Pengalor]

@@alext9550 Idk if you missed it, but they said they are lowering PVE flinch for snipers by 50%

[@alext9550]

@@Pengalor yeah they've said that before. Not gonna hold my breath for that one.

[@chaikagaz]

Why use sniper heavy slot? Im going for special.

[@e.h.6835]

to fix all our known issues, we gave still hunt an own row in the artifact.....

[@seanbiz6748]

Bring back Ice Breaker with all these Sniper buffs :)

[@coordenadascartesianas2368]

No.

[@edmendo]

My friend [Arnold Arm meme]

[@fernandopacheco1795]

No.

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

As much as I loved Ice Breaker, just no

[@unluckydude2380]

No you weird

[@Oblivion9996]

so good to hear the mod changes, some adept mods being worse than their normal versions right now is just wierd

[@joerobo100]

The issue with Twilight Arsenal isn't the damage, its having your axes veer off into a red bar when you are aiming at a boss. To buff Hammer of Sol you would need to give it the Song of Flame treatment where it gives you a powered melee plus a projectile for instant ignitions plus damage resistance and weapon buffs. Bring back Tempered metal. Id like Hammer of Sol to be the super equivalent of Consecration you hit melee you send out a wave of flames, enemies instantly ignite when hit with your thrown hammer. So you can spam ignitions like warlock does now.

[@GFlight.916]

Or the fact that they ALL disappear after 15 seconds whether you grabbed one or not.

[@MicheleRussell-d2f]

It's a smart decision to reveal everything at once; it reminds me of the Dark Below and House of Wolves expansions from the past and gives these episodes a more event-like atmosphere.

[@HuierWone]

Can we alter the elemental mods (flinching, targeting, etc.) so that they don't be tied to an element? Es realmente absurdo seguir cambiando mods porque decidí cambiar de arma durante el partido.

[@PoiutVioe]

Will the patrol space ever undergo significant changes? It still seems strange to watch all of the terraforming disappear as soon as we finish the episode missions.

[@KieoiCwoiy]

Übertragung von super vex chickens? Doch warum?

[@MatthewLantz]

Really like these livestreams. Like to see the people making the game and getting some more detail on the story.

[@muyandos]

Great team EDIT: Awesome!! They're dropping the whole Acts now.

[@Livefree9933]

I want more 12 man missions. That final mission was amazing!!

[@CheeseMemies]

The ONLY problem was how laggy it was because the amount of people and enemies😂

[@Toymonkeyjr]

need a new engine, current engine was not built to run with that many people in one encounter

[@Visigoths]

Fun but super buggy and caused a lot of problems with my WiFi

[@axelkusanagi4139]

​@@Visigothsdude...ethernet

[@Visigoths]

@@axelkusanagi4139 dude.. not everyone has good WiFi even with ethernet

[@KarltheBarl]

I’m glad you’re doing more of these this seriously helps with knowing what’s going on with the game

[@someguy6534]

It says a lot that even the play testers refuse to play Titan.

[@Kreau]

Kinda looking forward to solstice armor this year

[@ronaldraygun9093]

it’s weird, but i like it, i just hope it shaders well

[@crithon]

Oh cool, deeper into Nessus! There's that spot early where you can see it's core, there has to be more pockets like that!

[@garrettviewegh9028]

Love how they mention Byf, some of them probably noticed his ten hour magnum opus recapping the story. It was a great video to catch people up for the climax.

[@SuoisXius]

It's great to hear about the mod adjustments; it's weird that certain skilled mods are currently worse than their standard versions.

[@NaimoAqio]

It's a smart decision to reveal everything at once; it reminds me of the Dark Below and House of Wolves expansions from the past and gives these episodes a more event-like atmosphere.

[@ceno8yte]

I think we're going to be seeing like, a D1 Gjally/Mountaintop + Recluse scenario with how juiced Still Hunt is *plus* the new Artifact mods. This is going to go crazy.

[@larryboylarry5557]

Needing a reason to use my favorite sniper, Whisper Of The Worm. Looking forward to this. Thanks!

[@yolosolodolo]

Why is this video so dark? My brightness is turned all the way up and the thumbnails for other vids are so much brighter than this. Did someone upload the HDR version in SD?

[@nuggetstew4380]

Sounds like a you problem bud

[@kojeb]

i mean a lot of it is underground

[@yolosolodolo]

@@nuggetstew4380 nah. This issue isn’t on other vids

[@yolosolodolo]

@@nuggetstew4380 my guess is it is an HDR vid, but the HDR version hasn’t finished processing. So we are seeing HDR converted to SD which is the first version of a vid that KZbin processes. The average person may not notice the difference, but when you work in this space, you certainly do. If this video was uploaded as a premier, it makes sense because the HDR version and 4k version do not process until after the premier. So, it’s a KZbin problem with their premier system.

[@tactualoregon8476]

Dropping the whole thing at once is a great move, makes me think of these episodes like the Dark Below and House of Wolves expansions of old, makes them feel more like an event

[@lunalava4496]

After the first few weeks, the novelty of D1 expansions wore off and it was back to the same grind that lasted a couple of hours. Content droughts back then were awful and y’all want them to return.💀

[@tactualoregon8476]

@@lunalava4496 there’s way more content in D2 than d1 and once again it won’t be an issue for people who don’t no life the game

[@lunalava4496]

@@tactualoregon8476 And the people that do no-life the game are the ones that have the most say and the loudest voices because they actually know what’s going in inside the game. What you have there is an anecdotal fallacy. People already complain about lack of content with the current drip-feed system. What do you think is going to happen when the finish a month’s worth if content in a week or two and have nothing to do?

[@tactualoregon8476]

@@lunalava4496 I’ve never heard anyone complain about lack of content, only about the drip feeding and timegating, games don’t need to release new content every week, the Fortnite-ization of the industry is what has ruined gaming the last few years. People need to learn to enjoy what they have and not constantly be waiting for something new. So no sorry, but anyone complaining about this is a no life who needs to go outside or play something else

[@Herobuilder21]

@@lunalava4496 then i'll go do anything else with my life. cmon man i dont want to play just for the sake of playing.

[@SpeederLight]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO IM SO HYPED!

[@xXxpowerbagxXx]

:( titan abandoned

[@Baya86]

Thanks for these nice changes. Especially the thing with timegating is great!

[@moa.balboa6113]

FINALLY dropping everything at once. They really are listening.

[@biohazard724]

People are gonna no life the content and complain there's nothing else to do in 3 days

[@Opbee12]

@@biohazard724 And to that I will say, womp womp.

[@Souldefier]

I really hope in the solstice hunter ornament that jacket comes down more cause like, why a half jacket

[@lanemiller6315]

Yeah not a fan of the crop top

[@CommandersFan04]

When does the patches notes for all the new stuff coming?

[@life-destiny1196]

Usually that happens around the same time the patch drops. Certain specific changes often get announced in TWIDs ahead of time (like the crucible weapons balance updates that happen every so often), and expansion drops are often slightly earlier, but other than that, yeah.

[@itsmehere1]

Can we please get a node on every planet that has all the battlegrounds that will let us launch into each battleground on its own like strikes? Sometimes I really just want to play a specific one on its own but I don't like the RNG for it to show up in the playlist. Or a node inside the vanguard node that just has them all to select from in there.

[@ynotfazio]

Stream starts at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="955">15:55</a> btw

[@synchronicity23218]

Stream starts at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="950">15:50</a>

[@wojteknajlepszy7530]

I saw doing failsafe bounties so many times before the final shape

[@seanbiz6748]

Wait Ashley Barrett works for Bungie too?

[@yetiiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

LMFAOOOO

[@V-Vuheli]

titans shall rise again

[@JoshORama]

Titans *MUST* rise again

[@GFlight.916]

Explain. Cause I'm feeling pretty lackluster RN.

[@life-destiny1196]

again? /s

[@tinystar3010]

In Titanfall maybe.

[@Alphateyo]

W game

[@dorianrpg]

Teleporting super vex chickens? But why though?

[@Opbee12]

Pain. They love pain, I want a huge Vex chicken.

[@McLort]

Hell yea, great additions

[@_Diamond-Dog]

As a day 1 D1 player Your stream and your game have something in common I got bored after 10 minutes Thanks for 10 years but it's over .

[@CapSoap]

Worm Whisper and all Snipers are Buffed!!!

[@willroque7915]

aint this the beginning of of the 1st echoes>?

[@alfred265]

Wheres the new exotic 120 we haven’t gotten one since launch

[@Gemini_7531]

bungie heard still celestial hunters were poppin off and gave them more damage for doing still hunter things surely they give titans a meaningful update that isnt melee 17.0

[@dursa8314]

This was an interesting thread about development. I love when devs talk about what their intentions/desired outcomes were when creating content. Be that map layout, enemies density/strategies, etc. Thanks for your feedback on your projects. [Destiny] is a dual-persona journey 😅💚

[@AgiosFM]

Ao we are all exited?

[@StrangeChickandPuppo]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1467">24:27</a> I'm glad the titan shoulders are not giant bumpers for no reason, finally..

[@Jin_923]

lore wise, what sense are there for Fallens to still exist? Do they not see how house of light and it's Eliksni are living harmoniously with us now?

[@wildrose7648]

Some like that pirate life

[@odessawild7798]

Hatred of humanity, hatred of the traveler, whatever reasons anyone else has to do war

[@yummy_the_braix]

House dusk hasn’t gone anywhere.

[@Vakda]

Even Bungie themselves are confused by the Episode and Act terminology.

[@barthotymous]

still waiting for patrol Nessus to be updated

[@PhoenixBlacke]

Be nice if with the artifact we get new mod points also

[@pooger7778]

We need to know more about the future of the game past episode 3. Annual expansion, support, D3?

[@theremnants6807]

People have theories that the intro cutscene that shows a bunch of echos shooting out of the traveler (more than just the 3 we know of) is how many expansion/episodes we will get left.

[@Johnny_Ohio]

Are there any active clans on PlayStation five that do not really require people to join discord? I really don’t like using discord but I am on every day. I’m looking for a very active clan.

[@jackthesnack5810]

Anyone else seeing the strange yt timestamps at the bottom of the video?

[@azazle_leviathan6669]

Love the direct callout to byf

[@freakord]

Teleporting wyvern that's nice. Are you going to fix the teleporting enemies that aren't supposed to teleport?

[@garretthall9980]

Sounds like an internet issue, I very rarely have had that problem

[@Opbee12]

@@garretthall9980 So someone else's internet affects how the enemies work for everyone else?

[@xXxpowerbagxXx]

​@@Opbee12 am for brasil and have teleport enemies

[@abdulmuhaimin5274]

Imagine when the Perfect Paradox have Trench Barrel and One-two Punch perk combo.

[@pedrosanchez700]

Starts at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="953">15:53</a>

[@dougberry4535]

hopefully solstice has another opportunity for those who didn't get a skimmer to get one

[@nezcron]

can we get defiant activities out of strike rotations

[@tinystar3010]

Omg yes, f battlegrounds. I usually just bail, and re-queue.

[@Opbee12]

I enjoyed them during season of Defiance for the first few weeks, after that... I dreaded it.

[@zdude0127]

No. They are fine.

[@adamherrick6077]

Good timezone!

[@The_Tree_Sentinel]

bungie am i still able to get the superblack shader?

[@Arum3309]

No it’s not available anymore

[@The_Tree_Sentinel]

@@Arum3309 awh man 😔

[@GFlight.916]

I couldn't find it in myself to grind onslaught(too much self-respect), but I cannot lie, it's the best shader in the game.

[@TheCBoysDotCom]

It’s coming back eventually

[@The_Tree_Sentinel]

@@TheCBoysDotCom hopefully

[@tubach1082]

Did they talk about Nessus evolving

[@hylianglitchmobber7570]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="471">7:51</a> right... the lakes drained right up until we arrive to Nessus on patrol & it looks the exact same as it did year 1 of D2. Destiny's ever evolving world!

[@life-destiny1196]

It is really odd that that doesn't seem to have affected the patrol space. Hope they fix that soon

[@zachariahrobertson5601]

So we're all just gunna speed past her calling Byf her "boo" I THINK NOT! WHATS THE LORE THERE?

[@kojeb]

working on a fanfic as we speak

[@odessawild7798]

She used a common expression? "We gotchu boo"

[@techsupport00001]

Dear God I love those rocket assisted sidearms!!!

[@scalf_]

That sidearm though 👀

[@zigzag2370]

is it just me or does the narrative team lady look like she could ask you why you dont want chic fila sauce ?

[@GrandmaDestiny]

Not seeing any Titan play?

[@danielsebastian4490]

Can we PLEASE have an all out exotic battle in crusible? All exotic weapons and armor allowed, please please please

[@Mousesenpai]

time to do developer live streaming because TFD doing it.

[@Captdrpepper]

If I could get a void vex slug I would be in heaven

[@Carpediem1220]

Bungie please fix the bugs. 4 of my vendors and my quest tab are blinking saying there's new stuff but there isn't at all

[@onnimannimaki8846]

Why does this feel like it's been sped up?

[@tyxavier9716]

I never had an issue with the weekly rollout. It just needs to have variety instead of cookie cutter weekly routine of finish activity and wait for failsafe. Like maybe Xur has something for failsafe that we need to do or whatever. Just variety

[@ralpharambe163]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2580">43:00</a> balance changes

[@stevedeniz1]

Thank you

[@leof.883]

Lol

[@helioseternal2537]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="156">2:36</a> I respect this Simpsons reference so much 😂

[@stevie_caldwell]

Juiced up battlegrounds, incandescent rocket sidearm, and Chris Proctor = 10/10

[@kitsabumi]

I can't blame them for the solar grenade/threaded spectre nerf, but I'll be sad when it happens. Lol. I'll have to enjoy it while I can.

[@aidannevo9216]

Venus guys! Venuuuuuuus!!!!

[@Le_saphir]

J'ai regardé le live sur twitch du début à la fin du 19 juillet à 19 h je n'ai toujours pas reçu l'emblème qui était promis 😏

[@satansson6055]

Solstice armor looks Rocketeerish

[@NyThaTruth]

is that a solar rocket sidearm??? 👀👀

[@crux666]

yes

[@johnaldag3645]

We already have a strand one, so solar isn't too hard to implement

[@NyThaTruth]

@@crux666🥹 bungo making me tear up

[@crux666]

@@johnaldag3645 but have very cool perks heal clip + incandescent

[@NyThaTruth]

@@johnaldag3645 nah that strand one go CRAZY, giving a solar one now like you said makes it easier to work with

[@bigtzorn]

How does the sidearm have zero range? <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="917">15:17</a>

[@Deathbyfitz]

It’s Venus I’m calling it now

[@vix1027]

In my opinion Solstice hunter cloak could be a bit better but overall I love the sets

[@primaryplantbased]

Just strange that The Final Shape and Pale Heart dropped then a week later they go back to Nessus. Wish they would’ve kept us engaged on PH.

[@aljazslemc9569]

Is it not enough to have to do all the micah quests, unlock the exotic Khvostov, get the exotic class item roll you want, craft all the weapon patterns, get the ergo sum rolls you want, finish all the paracausal geometries, collect all the feathers and unlock the microcosm?

[@primaryplantbased]

I’m saying it was strange to shift focus from a new destination to an older destination one week after launch. Seems counterintuitive. Just my opinion.

[@aljazslemc9569]

@primaryplantbased maybe, it is par for the course for how bungie rolls content out in d2. I think we didn't get an annual expansion that had a season focused on that destination since season of the undying

[@Hollow_Sleep_]

Don't remind them about cascade point... Bro did the equivalent of asking the teacher if they're collecting the homework ☠️☠️☠️

[@Redeyeknight]

Alison Lührs is the real failsafe ❤

[@mohammedfarooq5357]

Lakshmi coming back with a new name who controls all evos via radiolaria

[@life-destiny1196]

Not the first time Lakshmi had a lil' rename action if so

[@peterjohnstone7867]

Hopefully we get a new dungeon soon. Got 2000 Silver and no annual pass

[@BikPlays]

dropping everything at once will make people complain with lack of content lmfao.

[@eye-chan1711]

I love watching people complain about blowing through all content in a few days and then also complaining about content being drip fed. I hate to defend Bungie, but the player base is really making it hard not to.

[@zephicules]

not really, the storyline for destiny (atleast light and dark saga) is over, so kinda like dawntrail, there's not really gonna be a huge ass thing at stake until mayyyyyyyyyybe the 2nd/3rd storyline

[@Interwentions]

Yeah I mean what do you suggest they do they because whatever way they do it they can’t win lol 😂

[@xTheLostLegendx]

Absolutely will lol.

[@Blanktester685]

people do so regardless....

[@edmendo]

Ice braker ...when?

[@nullandvoid7524]

Why would you use it over Still Hunt?

[@SlimeyZockt]

Still mad, I have been visiting Failsafe EVERY WEEK for my weekly lore reading