Testing Every Relevant Weapon for Boss DPS in The Final Shape (Still Hunt, Euphony, Microcosm)

[@TheAegisRelic]

Some small notes: - Grand Overture, much like every other weapon here, was tested with a simulated Lumina + No Hesitation buff, which is equal (or greater if you include the latter) to Hazardous Propulsion's 35% global empowering buff, and so the numbers you see in this video are as good as it gets for the weapon: the same buff as HP (except it buffs the regular shots and not just the volley) - Euphony's damage does not increase significantly as a result of equipping Swarmers, as all that does is apply unravel to the target, which is something that you can do by just throwing out an Arcane Needle on damage start, something you can do with any other warlock damage option Please check the spreadsheet for additional info before commenting if you have any questions or feedback to give :)

[@Galaxy40k]

Literally posted a comment asking about Swarmers on Euphony before I saw this, lol. So do you think Apotheosis the clear winner then for Euphony builds? Since even considering the entire sandbox, Euphony ammo is probably mostly saved for boss damage, I guess? So anything that maximizes that potential would be the best fit for it

[@iESCAP1SM]

Question: does Ergo Sum Wolfpack apply to other users’ Ergo Sum swords, despite them being exotic? If so, does the projectiles count towards The Perfect Fifth?

[@Griever_404]

We also no longer have surges in raids and dungeons. For the sake of comparison that does not matter, but just to reiterate the beginning of the video.

[@liamwilliamson7694]

Do you have a video that explains how to deciver the spreadsheet?

[@toolsheen136]

​@@Galaxy40k Apotheosis for boss dps, Swarmers for add clear

[@paul2725]

can't believe thunderlord is still the best dps, i keep using it, thanks for the info!

[@Alckee]

Can't wait to show all my lfg's who the real final boss is.

[@marianomarchione6242]

Thunderlord never leaves my heavy slot… LFGS hate me out dpsing them

[@savathunsweatysocks]

@@marianomarchione6242 thunderlord is good don't get me wrong but they must be really bad if they're getting out dpsed by thunderlord lol

[@user-vl4iq7bj5e]

*Microcosm

[@pogdan7966]

What other guns do you use with thunderlord?

[@stealth6308]

It’s so cool to see that even after all these years, coldheart is still the best dps option

[@TheAegisRelic]

So true

[@Toothlessthedragon_]

I'm already seeing laser beams everywhere LMAO

[@emberofeon4868]

Now for the ultimate meme, quadruple Lazer beam.

[@davidcrocker846]

In season of the deep it was my go to for damage in a crown of tempest build I had. I had 100% up time on all abilities and pretty comparable damage to people using apex predator (100-400k less damage if they had/didn’t have surges)

[@irrelevantnamehandle]

so my takeaway from this video after watching it all is that; -edge transit and rockets are still good, but edge transit is better for ease of use, total damage and overall dps without needing someone to run ghorn, and it’s also the best option if your on a warlock/titan for dps. -still hunt is the best dps special and overall damage if your on a hunter using celestial. basically it’s so good that it blows everything out of the water when you throw in apex predator and holster mods. (edit: just announced its getting a 25% nerf in august, it’s still going to be top tier, just not as good as it is now, if your combining it with apex predator your still going to be doing extremely good damage). -swords are in a good place esp with ergo sum buffing them, and summum bonnum is pretty much the new winner in terms of raw damage in the right situation in terms for swords. -microcosm, levis breath, whisper etc. are all good consistent options for dps -euphony is a good special, it’s good on its own but better as a dump special after you’ve dumped all your heavy. it also really highlights how bad linears are. Cloudstrike is also extremely good as a dps special. -linears are just straight up bad, not worth using besides euphony. euphony highlights how bad this is based upon how it outdamages even the best heavy linear in damage. I really do wish Linears were good again, kind of sucks they took the 15% nerf in lightfall and have been powercrept to hell and back. probably the only heavy weapon class that really needs to be looked at and buffed, really do feel like they should bridge the gap between dps and full damage, like more dps than whisper while having good respectable damage, i get during the witch queen era they were a bit problematic (mainly because of div, which is a problem that’s already been dealt with) but nowadays they don’t really see much use outside of niche situations. with whisper basically being back on top and having weapons like still hunt and euphony who do their job better, if not by much more than heavy linears. i do hope bungo reverts the 15% nerf and gives them something more.

[@brendanlandine8824]

@aegis what would you pair with edge transit for after the dump? Feel like void specials are lacking...

[@scmatrix_]

Nessas oblation, the 2023 glaciocasm (overflow controlled burst), and wilderflight seem like the most optimal, but personally I'd just use izi

[@scmatrix_]

​@@brendanlandine8824you're right good void damage specials are lacking, barely any of them run vorpal with the exceptions of some shotguns that are better off for double pellet

[@di11onm1nkgaming]

@@brendanlandine8824fugue is the best special void weapon to pair with edge, either that or use mahees with lucky pants

[@irrelevantnamehandle]

if your using kinetic, id personally iza or if you need a special; father's sin and the other void specials mentioned by others in the comments would work.

[@tirong6955]

Man, hearing lament is now one of the worst sword options for dps genuinely shattered my heart. I absolutely adored that thing ever since it came out and ran it whenever I could. Only recently did I find myself not enjoying it as much and having numbers back that up solidifies its spot in my vault. I’ll be waiting for its glorious return.

[@gummy3584]

The king will return soon 😤

[@jacchann]

I’m personally glad because I always fell asleep trying to complete that expansion, so I never unlocked Lament, and I was tired of LFG’s telling me to go get it when I had a perfectly usable Goldtusk and Falling Guillotine

[@jheun83]

😢I'm still out DPSing other swords with Lament on Harold.

[@revolutioninc7081]

@@jheun83your anecdote is the result of lfg (or your friend group) being horrendous at damage, not a reflection of the weapon in your hand.

[@PpTheGreatest]

​@@jheun83 You would also do a lot more damage if you used something else

[@JulioGarcia-pm1oh]

thunderlord and microcosm is the definition of "put on a shirt" vs "empowering" meme

[@Real28]

Favorites of Titans, everywhere. They can eat their crayons and still DPS.

[@stickupkydd9454]

Micro is soooooo nasty tho wardens luckys and micro bottom slot double kinetic surge mods 😩

[@PpTheGreatest]

​@@stickupkydd9454 Yes, but on hunter, still hunt exists so put that suboptimal loadout away and get with the meta

[@TriggerHappy-mo3fr]

​@@Real28no there fave is hazourdous propolsion. Otherwise they get kicked for "not having enough dmg"

[@nathanhyman2889]

Everybody: wondering if Aegis is dead Aegis: Releases enough testing footage to be longer than the ENTIRETY OF DESPICABLE ME

[@zachstinnett5475]

"How long is your shift today?" "4.38 Dispicable Mes." Free Sketch.

[@manynukes11]

Lament is one of the most baffling nerfs they've ever made considering only legendary swords got better with wolfpack rounds.

[@Dynasty1818]

It's not really - the 2nd encounter in the Salvation's Edge raid is sword-heavy, and if everyone used Lament it'd be too easy. So they nerfed Lament to the point of being laughable now, considering they also added the new Ergo Sum and Wave Frame swords. It makes complete sense to nerf Lament but they went too far. The second it was announced, plenty were suspecting a Sword encounter in the new raid and they were right.

[@EatsUsedTP]

lament gets wolfpack

[@themagicalex]

​@@EatsUsedTP ...

[@jay-5061]

​@@EatsUsedTPthe brain dead thrall have come out to feast

[@EatsUsedTP]

@@jay-5061 I shall continue spreading misinformation

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

One argument with Ill Omens: Attrition Orbs allows it to self generate stacks to use for Argent Blade as well as surges. A single heavy I believe on casters is 10 hits so every heavy you're getting an orb. In most scenarios it wont mean much if you already have other members generating orbs too but I think it's something to consider for solo players or random match making.

[@TheAegisRelic]

We do use Attrition in SE speedruns for Herald for this very reason!

[@Kirbylini]

It took me so long to find this and it's EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you so much!! I haven't played in years so it's info overload, it's super helpful to be able to see how everything does

[@AuralVirus]

Would love to see a Boss damage Bootcamp series (of) video(*s) to help those of us new(er) to raiding etc requiring hints & tips + to up our dmg output.

[@zackreph939]

Going in-depth on rotations would be huge, agree

[@ibiddengt5023]

Was going into withdrawals before this was uploaded. Thanks Aegis!

[@Gaffroninja]

Thank you for all your work and time putting everything here together, it’s so frustrating seeing other damage tests and things don’t feel explained or tested thoroughly, or not even consistent across tests with wildly inaccurate numbers to back that up. You and the peeps helping you are amazing!

[@AgnosticRunner]

TLDR: Taipan still clears (trust me)

[@chapel4]

thank god i don’t have to think anymore

[@ch_hassan-PAK]

that is a lot of work my guy. very much appreciated.

[@regal-27]

Just wanted to let you know that I love these videos / spreadsheets so much. I've been playing destiny for a long time (mostly PvP), but never had the confidence to push into higher difficulty PvE stuff due to a lack of knowledge of what I should bring. Cleared my first GMs via LFG this week, and even ended up helping someone else get their first GM clear!

[@tobysealz3574]

wake up babe aegis just uploaded

[@christianrojas5757]

Just came across your channel after taking a break from destiny for after lightfall. Your videos are so in depth!

[@radar345611]

Always a W when aegis uploads

[@MetallicBlue-u2t]

You just gained a subscriber ! Amazing video. Hope to see Hazardous Propulsion dame testing in the future for our fellow titans

[@rigoFGC1]

Nice to see that Thunderlord is still the highest DPS option with all these amazing options available now. Great testing!

[@Rawkr57]

Love your work! Thank you so much for everything youve done for the community.

[@arealphoenix9897]

Unsure how valuable this is but something I like about Euphony is that it procs cascade point in just two crits, less than one burst. I could see it making a great pairing with a cascade/bns heavy GL. I've been using it with an autoloading/cadcade Cataphract. Probably not optimal but dumping the nades with cascade gives me plenty of time to switch back to Euphony to keep the spindle damage buff going, and it makes good backup DPS once I've dumped all the nades. Double strand is nice for surges also.

[@NingenSlayerZamasu]

Hearing how Lament got hit hard and isn’t doing much for DPS sword wise hurts man. It’s one of my top 5 exotics that I love and hearing how it’s struggling this much and how badly Bungie nerfed it sucks. I really wish it ends up getting some buff or catalyst in the near future. Like Argent Blade or something, literally anything.

[@JoelHernandez-tz3vk]

Nerfed and power crept at the same time. Just like LFRs the year before.

[@S38RXY]

Gods work. Thank you Aegis. The wait for your content is always worthwhile.

[@Dayssbefore]

Aegis, as always great video! Thanks for doing this for the community.

[@MrTmm97]

Many of us wish we could give you way more than 1 like on the video. Here’s a comment to go with it. You put so much time and effort into these videos. There’s no way they pay out to the effort you put in. Thanks!

[@TheAegisRelic]

[@Zasz33]

Our data analyst cooked hard, thanks for the work. Can't wait for part 2 !

[@TheLegoPro154]

You are seriously a godsend to the community bro. Such an underrated channel. Thank you for all your hard work!

[@TheAegisRelic]

[@BuckShot456789]

I still hate how Bungie robbed Two Tailed as a viable DPS option when they changed the RoF for the catys 3rd rocket. Most exotics get their 15 minutes of fame, but Two Tailed only got 5 and it was unjustifiable for a change as drastic as that. Can you imagine the rocket meta with Gally, DBreath, Apex, Crux and TTF swap rotations? It would have been pure bliss. Especially with TTF applying void weaken or suppression effects just by using it with certain artifact mods. Im not a huge stan of TTF but i will always back it when i say that Bungie dropped the bag with the change they gave it. Think Anakin not being a master levels of disappointment and frustration.

[@warv6552]

The real nail in the coffin was when they standardized all jolt values so TTFs Jolt no longer did more than other sources

[@ginjadingo2941]

@@warv6552so ttf is useless?😔

[@warv6552]

@@ginjadingo2941 Yeah the jolt went from like around 17,000 damage to around 4,000 which is a 76% nerf. And since it’s dps was lower than legendary rockets, that jolt was the only reason to use it in endgame content.

[@BuckShot456789]

@warv6552 Back when the caty first dropped and people put in the grind to unlock and use it, TTF was putting up some competitive numbers, despite the jolt being out of band. It was just as easy to use as any other rocket, and if you used strand grenades that by-passed the reload, which most people were doing with gally swaps and legendary rockets to begin with. That Thump-Thump TTF had knowing you sent a 3rd rocket for extra damage was bliss. Now it's Thump-Thump-Thump, which tanks the RoF and DPS. It was so sad of a change.

[@warv6552]

@@BuckShot456789 Without the extra damage jolt it’s damage couldn’t really compare to pack Hunter lengdaries. It’s only real place was in niche solo situations like Solo prophecy speedrun on Kell Echo esp since the season that they nerfed jolt was the same season Apex Predator got refreshed and basically made every other rocket irrelevant, as well as them changing surge mods so that 3x void weapon boosts no longer benefited all 3 rockets essentially meant TTF had 1 single season where it was a competitive damage option. By the time they changed the fire rate it was basically already dead but apparently they thought it needed another nerf so now it’s dead.

[@superman15922]

One note about Bastion, it performs amazingly with Wishful Ignorance, as the Wishful melee dmg buff last long enough to continue stacking it even after shooting Bastion again. So if you just Bastion - Punch continuously you'll constantly habe the trench barrel buff + you'll even further buff the Wishful punches.

[@TheAegisRelic]

I'll add it to the list

[@UltraStrawberryDreamsMonster]

my opinion has arrived

[@broodingtree2014]

You're amazing, man. This has got to be so much work

[@TheAegisRelic]

It is indeed, but the work's been done for a while, now I'm just turning it all into videos :P

[@fieryflame6676]

These videos really help put things into mathematical perspective. Thanks for the work you do, although gruelling.

[@luk4aaaa]

my goat is back with more funny numbers so I can pretend to know what I'm doing

[@ih197]

I’ve been waiting for this video since TFS launched!!

[@Fuligin]

39:52 for the summary table

[@sora_2342]

Very good vid! Lots of work and we appreciate it!

[@Scryllix]

Let's go I don't have to think now. Tysm cutie

[@rogerorchestry]

love your content, so valuable. thanks again!

[@samuelviden7412]

I recently got the Star-Eater/Apotheosis combo exotic class item for my warlock. Fantastic for DPS phases, obviously.

[@stephenbean1264]

I THOUGHT I WAS AWAKE BUT THEN AEGIS UPLOADED. NOW IM AWAKE 🔥🔥🔥

[@darthnater6204]

As I don’t play anymore it is very interesting how the game has evolved thank you Aegis

[@shathieash7067]

Would you mind testing Microcosm + Hazardous Propulsion? If you have a Song of Flame warlock alongside you, you pretty much have 100% uptime on your Thruster, and you can stack the rockets really quickly with Microcosm. I've been using it for Witness DPS, and it's a pretty easy-to-use option that can still pump out huge numbers.

[@chungo2548]

The nice part with euphony though is that its a special weapon with good damage but its also really good at clearing rooms with a semi decent strand/prismatic build if you build into threadlings a bit so the damage is more of a secondary part of it imo. Also just looks sick.

[@ActionJacksonDavis]

Love the work you do, thanks for everything you provide the Destiny community.❤

[@kaxdra]

I've been messing around with Tessellation because it could technically mean your entire loadout can match a surge, I've been using it with Scatter Signal and an ALH BnS Cataphract and I'm pretty confident its not meta, but with a preloaded alt-fire shot it is pretty funny to have a loadout thats fully surge matching.

[@lumayne8829]

It's weird that we talk about still hunt as "Still hunt with nighthawk" but we compare it to euphony on it's own. Euphony apex swap with apotheosis veil can outdamage a still hunt apex swap. Done it multiple times and consistently do more damage with that than with still hunt + celestial

[@TheAegisRelic]

An equal comparison would be adding an additional Nighthawk Goldie in front of the SH option then, and that would skew things even further towards SH, Apotheosis doesn't affect the Spindle stack rate compared to what's in the spreadsheet, and it definitely doesn't outdamage SH

[@lumayne8829]

@@TheAegisRelic can hit 10.5 mil with it on still hunt on the witness in 2 phases + final stand, most I've seen from SH NH is around the same if not less. So the numbers on this spreadsheet gotta be off somehow. other than that sick video

[@lumayne8829]

@@TheAegisRelic Unless in my 30 clears I've never played with a "good" SH NH hunter, which is entirely possible, but I'm fairly sure nah

[@TheAegisRelic]

@@lumayne8829 Comparing against random people in an uncontrolled environment using wipe screen numbers after 2 phases + final isn't a good way to test DPS

[@lumayne8829]

@@TheAegisRelic I mean testing DPS in a DPS phase over 30 clears each having at LEAST one hunter but some having 5, I personally think is a lot better way to test it

[@ugorizzoli5830]

Something I'd add about Microcosm that makes it IMHO a better option for a lot of people than other things that are mathematically better than it specifically against Witness is that It's pretty common in my experience to be able to completely empty its reserves in a damage phase, giving its higher total damage a bit more weight. Obviously you could dump an edge transit and then use something else for the remainder of the dps phase, but as far as lazy witness dps I think microcosm it's the best bet for more inexperienced people

[@ThePizzaDevourer]

Man, I could feel the dive linears had taken, but I didn't realize just how grim it was. Hopefully they're adjusted soon since they take at least a bit more aim than most of the other options.

[@hunterherd5016]

I need to see this Eriana’s Lucky Pants rotation ASAP

[@yourbrojohno]

I've found for me, witness DMG on warlock or titan I'm running parasite and ikelos sniper with a solar holster. I use up 12 parasite shots and almost all of my sniper reserves. At first I thought parasite was a non starter on witness as he is floating and further away, but you can do really good total DMG and it's a pretty chill swap that you can hip fire/quickscope with and never kill yourself from teammates jumping around. I fire the first x20 shot at witness, then 5 sniper shots. Because holsters are wack, each consecutive swap takes less time, but usually I'm jumping around so even with sub optimal 4 shots per. Highest I was able to do in a single DPS phase was 3,750,000 without any debuffs. I also have tons of ammo so I can instakill the subjugators if they are bothering ppl too much. Edit: i knew Euphony was overhyped.

[@pupperaccino]

Whisper ez 4-5 million on Witness. Very good if not playing hunter, best on warlock due to pre-popping nova.

[@yourbrojohno]

​@@pupperaccinoI might give it a try, but considering it literally requires you to be hardscoped, it seems like a good way to get kicked from LFGs for dying multiple times in a DMG phase by thinking you are out of the blasts.

[@pupperaccino]

@@yourbrojohno I've found that dodging the lasers is a good option

[@codypeoples1243]

Which sniper do you pair with Parasite?

[@xblp2]

kneel for the king

[@slime_ism]

tongue out or nah

[@General_Genius]

Great video. Cant wait to see if OG Verity options can still beat prismatic Veritys (Inmost light/Apotheosis/...). Especially without the teammate buff on the Spirits

[@nerdherder9340]

Damn bastion is looking really nice for solo dungeons. Good at nuking a major, synergizes with a lot of the common melee-based builds, decent boss damage. Could def see it being pretty good on something like gahlran where damage phases run long

[@basilisk4848]

Linears still have some place, it’s very very niche but for me at least they’re a safe dps option for solo flawless dungeons when you’ve got to be careful about accidentally blowing yourself up. Might just be a skill issue on my part, but I’ve been using scintillation for the ogre in warlords, since I’ve been having trouble with either the boss getting too close, or taken thrall getting in my face causing me to explode if I’m using my cataphract and it hits them. The thing isn’t it being strong for damage, it’s more just for safety. If it’s just a normal run though you bet I’m sticking with a GL

[@michaelmcglone4280]

I love how the second clip shows the rendering issue that Bungo STILL HASN’T FIXED.

[@alabamaman1372]

Thanks for the numbers.

[@Happyhippos5366]

When we get to Act 2, I am excited to see how much higher the solar weapons climb above everything else.

[@NinaFaenation]

I really want to know what that one Bungie dev was smoking when they were so confident with that quote "we think more people will be using Truth when The Final Shape is out". The last time I remember Truth being any sort of play was for very particular speed run strats in certain legend lost sectors in Beyond Light and even then it wasn't really mandatory.

[@justcthanks4639]

While I understand that it makes for less overt skill expression, I am a little glad that the balance of the meta is moving away from high-APM swap DPS rotations and toward more simple, consistent DPS strategies that the average player can learn. Having clear-cut options that are easy to pick up and roll with really helps newer players, and that's something I can appreciate as an aspiring Sherpa. It also helps cut down on a lot of the toxic mentalities of some of the more elitist players; swap DPS still exists for players who find joy in optimizing their routes and perfecting combos, but there's a lot less "You should have already learned the optimal frame-perfect swap rotations or we're kicking you from the LFG even though you've only played for a month" situations, and I view that as an overall positive.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Honestly there's always been easy DPS options but I'm all for option diversity which there's more of now

[@charlie-vw7zw]

Pack Hunter also makes proc'ing Attrition Orbs easier, I was making orbs nonstop at Herald

[@never3nder]

The one place I really like 4th times retrofit for is final boss of Warlords ruin. A boss that is very easy to crit, and has enough seperate phases that you can reasonably actually make use of the total reserves

[@amorfati4927]

The gist is what everyone thinks of when they think “what is the best damage” is what is statistically the best. However, the best to use is what ever your can be consistent with. Missing just one shot, reload or what ever in the “best” category can tank their numbers. For this something like Microcosm will be the best option for many. It’s dummy proof and extremely forgiving… even if it’s the lowest of the “easy options (but miss a crit with Whisper so you have to reload or Levi so you don’t have Archer’s Tempo and see how much it tanks and even messes up many players because they’re pulled out of the tempo and it makes them miss more).”

[@jonahbrown5669]

God I hope jolt is added to arnarchy. Sure it wouldn't add too much extra damage, but it would make it much better at ad clear while making it great for overload champs

[@KDLoki]

Ive been getting back into Destiny 2 and although I've lost interest in endgame content I still find these videos entertaining. Also, hearing Lament and heavy linears have fell off a cliff is geneuinely upsetting. Cataclysmic was my go to throughout the whole of Witch Queen too.

[@nickjobs9544]

I came up with a dps rotation on prismatic warlock using ophidian + star eater nova bomb that goes: arcane needle melee, izzy + reload, throw prismatic grenade, 2 shots persuader, cascade bait edge, super. With facet of command, throwing the grenade right before shooting persuader will reload edge transit right as the mag empties and by the time you cast super and rotate back through the rotation facet of command should be off cooldown

[@TheAegisRelic]

Cool!

[@freddyflo7364]

i still think that the darci buff a while back should not have been jolt, which essentially made it a heavy ammo cloudstrike, but instead give it the ability to scan the type of champions and then apply that type after a second or so, thus giving us a choice between burst heavy or that.

[@cookies23z]

damn... that would have been super cool actually

[@thatguyyouhate3743]

Having the state of heavy linears quantified like this makes me sad. I knew they were bad but I didn’t know they were that bad. Still gonna hold on to my scintillation in case Bungie gives them the buff they so desperately need

[@willphelps40]

Appreciate you. Excited for your thoughts on Song of Flame, star eater Song of Flame, and Song of Flame with a demo GL/rocket.

[@quintonmartin8871]

A good DPS rocket launcher I've found is the one from season of the witch. If you put the right perks on it, you get great burst DPS and a large reserve with a decent reload time EDIT: The perks I run on it are Enhanced Field Prep and Enhanced Bipod

[@TheAegisRelic]

Field Bipod is nice for GMs for sure

[@ZamBam-kg8nf]

Who would’ve thought that a chicken and the aegis relic are keeping my dps numbers alive

[@steveheist6426]

Grand Overture works with the new exotic chestpiece Hazardous Propulsion, which begets the question of "Which is better, Actiums or Hazardous?" My thoughts go to Hazardous, especially if you use a Rally Barricade to send the full six Exodus Rockets and those all *also* hit the boss, the reload speed buff might just barely be enough

[@TheAegisRelic]

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[@steveheist6426]

@@TheAegisRelic Only thought is maybe Hazardous Propulsion stacks *with* Lumina / No Hesitations? It's probably a tall ask to set all of it up in a real raid environment, but if we can get a 70%+ bonus to the rockets it could skyrocket at least in terms of burst DPS.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Doesn't unfortunately

[@steveheist6426]

@@TheAegisRelic Sad :( Welp, I'll keep it around for phased dps stuff because dumping 20 rockets into Locus of Communion ends the phase in one go with the damage buff, and it isn't hard to set up solo

[@Drewski024]

Great video!! Thanks for the work bro!!

[@Sheikah_Architect]

6:42 *Actium + Sweet Buisness* IS ON THE LIST LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Sheikah_Architect]

Misspelled 'business' like the crayon eater I am lmao

[@siva9422]

2:04 harpy wasn’t ready for the smoke

[@jrmind8084]

Bumgie REALLY should make a dedicated damage tester somewhat like the enclave but with stats of the info

[@MordecaiandMonroe]

Love when i setup bait n switch on my linear swap and start firing and im hitting numbers that look like special sniper numbers

[@TheAegisRelic]

LMAO

[@gdshark9558]

Lament being out damaged by heart shadow kinda stings

[@nickt5985]

Wow, so even though still hunt is still a beast it wasn't the kind of beast I thought it was. Still could probably use some tuning so it isn't literally pushing other swap options out of contention, but good to know that it isn't anihalating the heavy slot like people have been saying it has.

[@friendlyelites]

Ager's with Icefall mantle is very good for Titans to use during a stasis surge since Behemoth doesn't work on anything further than 10 feet than you, ran it on the Arc/Stasis pantheon and almost always topped out damage while using it with a half decent Cold Comfort. If Pantheon comes back keep that combo in your pocket for Caretaker and Explicator.

[@pupperaccino]

It is unfortunate but stasis has the single worst choice of weapons for DPS, the only one that stands out really only being Cold Comfort. Good thing that there's always at least 2 surges available for any activity. :)

[@CarpetFTW]

They ruined stasis titan with the stasis rework (nerf). It's to the point that the behemoth clan fell apart because the subclass now has no viability.

[@jedihotdog9890]

The area denial came in clutch, i can use it and cold comfort and still keep my exotic for add clear or swap to still hunt for some nutty dps

[@Oron_The_Massive]

Man you are amazing love your content keep it up❤

[@Konnerading]

It would be cool to see how the scorching rounds from song of flame works with better kinetic weapons like outbreak, supremacy, microcasm, bastion, lucky pants.

[@TheAegisRelic]

In my experience the effect isn't that significant but I might test it later

[@Konnerading]

@@TheAegisRelic yeah it seems scorch rounds only proc every so often depending on the weapon type so it probably isnt substantial. The only other thing that would possibly work would be if swapping weapons resets the timer. Even then the only real world benefit might be for a dragonsbreath rotation but i feel like song of flame + apotheosis veil probably do the best or close to the best damage and is far easier to pull off than some wild swap stuff

[@sophieirisviel4100]

33:48 not sure if you caught this, but in the video you end up holding salvations at max charge for way longer than is required, looks to be you holding it for about twice as long? the little lines under the crosshair help to know when its fully charged, since unlike fusions and lfrs, salv doesnt autofire at max charge

[@TheAegisRelic]

Known, I test per-shot damage and max fire rate in separate instances :P

[@sophieirisviel4100]

@@TheAegisRelic o lmao that makes a lot of sense i might be a little stupid

[@TheAegisRelic]

Don't worry I don't usually say anything about that sort of stuff in recent videos so I don't expect people to know unless they watch testing streams

[@lewisking291]

Took me about 20 minutes to realise the spreadsheets weren't just the intro

[@abyssosque]

L video didnt try out 6x rat king (nah jk thanks so much for making the best videos, really carrying the community on your back)

[@KidneyFailure_671]

Ty for the numbers again :) i can definitely speak for acrius with it's ease of use and very good damage, was doing salvations edge for the first time and everyone else was on swords while i was on acrius for herald of finality, and i was always at double the damage of everyone else at the wipe screen. I was also wondering if cloudstrike+crux with hazardous propulsion is a viable dps option for stuff like witness (im a titan main so i don't have access to celestial) and i was relieved to see you recommending it. Keep up the great work you do for this community

[@aeveryhawk3036]

really early into the video still but I'm happy to see that lost signal is competitive with witherhoard

[@lewismcdowall9873]

Holy wowza all that stream time coming together to make one saucy dmg explanation papa aegis is spoiling me today

[@potatis4693]

Hey, Aegis! Im curious if you've tested the viability of Arc Souls vs Star-eater Scales Nova bomb now that we have an easy convenient way of making your entire team amplified via Ascendance. If I remember correctly, your spreadsheet pre-TFS stated that 1 amplified + 5 regular Arc Souls outdamaged a Thread of Evolution Needlestorm in around 13 seconds, the change to 6 Amplified Arc Souls should roughly be an 86% damage increase. In addition, anyone with an Arc Soul on Prismatic will likely give it a 10% damage increase thanks to Facet of Courage.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Next video! :)

[@VanpyroGaming0]

I wish Bungie would push Queenbreaker more into its utility roll. AOE instant blind is fantastic utility for GMs, even if it's damage is lacking. Blind is one of the strongest elemental debuffs in the game and having a way to apply it very easily is nice.

[@arshmakhi9721]

Ergo Soom and Ty for the video!

[@CrimsonHeroes]

The shatter damage from glacial quake on prismatic with star eaters is so good it’s funny

[@kennethsommer]

Or triple kinetic surge with outbreak

[@Revadike]

Maybe a subjective ranking system of "required effort" or a variance value for the damage would be useful

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah I'm working on making that

[@strippelhoff4898]

crazy work dude

[@itzcobrahands430]

One combo I've been trying is Euphony swapping to Cataphract with ALH + Cascade point. Curious on your thoughts if you've tried it. The cascade point lets you dump the mag and get back to Euphony before the spindle stacks fall off.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Will try it out!

[@RBF__]

wow! I love airgow soom!