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Demand Specificity: Effortlessly Defend Yourself In An Argument

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Charisma on Command

Charisma on Command

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@rehimawoldegiorgis3481
@rehimawoldegiorgis3481 4 жыл бұрын
“If somebody personally attacks you then that means you’re actually winning the debate” amen 🙏
@mauriciosantos8162
@mauriciosantos8162 4 жыл бұрын
In fact , I agree with this !!!
@motyovszkimiklos7538
@motyovszkimiklos7538 4 жыл бұрын
and then he says in his "10 tips to debate lefties" video that you should attack your opponent's personality. He is a huge hypocrite
@mrgoldengraham027
@mrgoldengraham027 4 жыл бұрын
@@motyovszkimiklos7538 You realise ben didnt make this video surely? These were just points this channel picked up on and claimed to be rules he seems to follow in debates. He doesnt actually have this list in a frame and read it every night before bed 😂
@TTUploads
@TTUploads 4 жыл бұрын
Which is what Ben did to Andrew Neil 😂
@cineastik8220
@cineastik8220 4 жыл бұрын
Well, you may win a debate, but you may lose an election. Clinton...
@greyline1012
@greyline1012 4 жыл бұрын
I was taught as a small kid. “Raise your voice and you’ve lost the argument “.
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 4 жыл бұрын
You must be quite old then, nowdays you are taught that raising your voice wins them.
@autumnishere420
@autumnishere420 4 жыл бұрын
@@mojewjewjew4420 I understand where you are coming from, but I think that it's more like "Nowadays it is thought that being offended wins them." People don't use the yelling tactic as much as bringing too much emotion to the table.
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 4 жыл бұрын
@@autumnishere420 That too but i feel its more in the west, from where i am for you "have" to be loud, aggressive and hypocrite works aswell. Sure you heard how you also cant have a reasonable conversation with parents because DiSrEsPeCt
@Bobbysgirl-e5p
@Bobbysgirl-e5p 4 жыл бұрын
Tell BLM supporters that.
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bobbysgirl-e5p or antifa but oh wait they are the same breed
@kathleenk7170
@kathleenk7170 Жыл бұрын
Pushing for specifics is practically flawless. Fudgers will be immediately exposed.
@NachoAE360
@NachoAE360 6 ай бұрын
True, but they get real mad haha
@leveenntt
@leveenntt 3 ай бұрын
100%
@ziggy979
@ziggy979 Жыл бұрын
"Buying into an argument that you dont understand". This one statement is brilliant. If I don't understand, the higher road is to shut my mouth and open my ears. Many times there is no need to reply. It is ok when we don't engage. I recall the saying the smartest person in the room may be the one who says little and listens well.
@thejkyle
@thejkyle 4 жыл бұрын
“Simply being offended doesn’t prove anything” Wise words in today’s times.
@matthewguy1155
@matthewguy1155 4 жыл бұрын
Such a controversial comment with no comments and only likes. I agree.
@arnoldbexton4590
@arnoldbexton4590 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewguy1155 😭
@jonathanshawver4678
@jonathanshawver4678 4 жыл бұрын
Or in the words of Shapiro "Facts don't care about your feelings"
@davidkonevky7372
@davidkonevky7372 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanshawver4678 But honestly, that's some wisdom
@codythedoggo7671
@codythedoggo7671 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@PieroMinayaRojas
@PieroMinayaRojas 4 жыл бұрын
"Feelings don't care about facts." -Shen Bapiro
@cookieeater3000
@cookieeater3000 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's "facts don't care about feelings"
@PieroMinayaRojas
@PieroMinayaRojas 4 жыл бұрын
@Harsh Kumar Don't answer that. A rhetorical question.
@user-lg8et8jz1r
@user-lg8et8jz1r 4 жыл бұрын
Is it shen bapiro , or Ben Shapiro ?! But it's true thoug
@onlypain.4505
@onlypain.4505 4 жыл бұрын
Piero Minaya Rojas “You take 100% of the shots you don’t miss” -Gayne Wretzky
@TheCarnage2001
@TheCarnage2001 4 жыл бұрын
@@cookieeater3000 r/whooosh
@jenniferharris9078
@jenniferharris9078 Жыл бұрын
Talk fast so the opponent is still trying to figure out what you said so they lose sight of their response…
@adamantiuscloudcat1799
@adamantiuscloudcat1799 Жыл бұрын
Shapiro style 100%
@hiltonjacobs6218
@hiltonjacobs6218 Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. Candice do the same
@hiltonjacobs6218
@hiltonjacobs6218 Жыл бұрын
@Trevor Brannon 🤣🤣🤣
@cygnatius6378
@cygnatius6378 Жыл бұрын
no you lot just are not very bright. He's easy to understand if your values are grounded in logic.
@jack002tuber
@jack002tuber 6 ай бұрын
Engage other people who think slower than you do, you will win.
@Yusuf_Sc
@Yusuf_Sc Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about Bens most important trait slow speech
@mikeporchia8914
@mikeporchia8914 Жыл бұрын
Articulate in manner. I agree.
@azscn8192
@azscn8192 Жыл бұрын
I think he talk to fast.
@Yusuf_Sc
@Yusuf_Sc Жыл бұрын
@@azscn8192 I was being sarcastic
@jenniferl1908
@jenniferl1908 Жыл бұрын
Ben's most important trait is he a narcissist.
@whatsboredom9133
@whatsboredom9133 Жыл бұрын
@@jenniferl1908 narcissistic brain damage to the ventromedial prefrontal cortex does not allow for the high IQ or self-awareness, or intellectual capacity to sustain a debate. Narcissists can't even fathom a polarized argument because their lack of empathy fails to understand anyone else's perspective except their own. Ben does not gaslight or move goal posts which are the only tactics narcissistic brain damage knows. Narcissists are not loving fathers with a family who support them. Narcissists actually need to cause damage to others and to self to increase their dangerously low serotonin. Don't confuse high IQ with destructive narcissistic brain damage LOL Did you not read a single word about narcissism before projecting this disorder onto a celebrity?
@blustgt8814
@blustgt8814 5 жыл бұрын
1) Talk fast
@xavierathorne
@xavierathorne 5 жыл бұрын
Blust GT That’s where older people like myself have the advantage. Being past 50, we can always tell our opponents to slow down. It drives them nuts, and sometimes short circuits their brain, and gives extra time to think, of responses, counterpoints, etc. His fast talking, is also his weakness.
@user-bd7ug6tv1b
@user-bd7ug6tv1b 5 жыл бұрын
Blust GT oh yeah yeah
@muffledgiraffe4303
@muffledgiraffe4303 5 жыл бұрын
He has said he was a college debater. They learn to speak quickly to make point in 4 min on a huge array of complex topics.
@naufal6174
@naufal6174 5 жыл бұрын
that's a sign his mouth tryna keep up with his machine gun brain
@f-j-Services
@f-j-Services 5 жыл бұрын
@@muffledgiraffe4303 o lol I thought that it was because he doesn't want to get interrupted by someone and have to change the topic for their needs.
@liamchristiansen4329
@liamchristiansen4329 4 жыл бұрын
Legend has it he wins arguments against his wife...
@Vibing2443
@Vibing2443 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@coleg5578
@coleg5578 4 жыл бұрын
Did you forget that she’s a doctor?
@Bextie
@Bextie 4 жыл бұрын
@@coleg5578 So she's good at dissecting his points?
@Kuro-hq6el
@Kuro-hq6el 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bextie hahaha lmao
@southbaycommuter
@southbaycommuter 4 жыл бұрын
Against his Jewish wife, who's a doctor? You must be referring to another wife...
@ivory6664
@ivory6664 Жыл бұрын
1. catching a non-arguement 2. being offended doesn't prove anything 3. push a person to give examples 4. know your arguments inside and out 5. emphasize the conditions under which you would agree with your opponent
@nispen
@nispen Жыл бұрын
You have explained why debates are nothing more than entertainment
@MichaelSheffield-ox8yd
@MichaelSheffield-ox8yd Жыл бұрын
Nuts
@macforme
@macforme 7 ай бұрын
A GAME OF VERBAL FENCING.
@philipunnersaker3398
@philipunnersaker3398 4 жыл бұрын
Caught my lawyer watching this right before court
@ethanowen1416
@ethanowen1416 4 жыл бұрын
Can I just let Ben be my lawyer😂
@fopeprancis3207
@fopeprancis3207 4 жыл бұрын
Why did this make me chuckle
@fmart3617
@fmart3617 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with brushing up
@Namelezz_Guy
@Namelezz_Guy 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@__________________________3455
@__________________________3455 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah hopefully your lawyer win the trial
@gigawattzgamereviews2094
@gigawattzgamereviews2094 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most impressively neutral take on Ben I’ve ever seen online. Good job.
@derekscott6699
@derekscott6699 4 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not sure to me I kinda sounded like he was against ben. Anyone else?
@derekscott6699
@derekscott6699 4 жыл бұрын
@PoliticsPres possibly
@scottsyverson1607
@scottsyverson1607 4 жыл бұрын
Neutral?! Is it neutral to argue against the right of private property as the narrator does when he say socialist wouldn't see it that way? I barely got into this video and I was scratching my head to understand the narrator's contorsions. The presenter is anything but neutral. The narrator starts with the assumption that there is no gravity, no up, no down, and to make any assertion would be to state a bias. Fact and the truths they lay out are not bias. This is what I call untethered thought processes. If you untether all fact for from reality, then you can make any argument seem logical working in this created realm of fantasized reality.
@chriskendall1619
@chriskendall1619 4 жыл бұрын
Marisa Nya yeah cool, that had nothing to do with the thread at all. If you wanna stir up a debate then don’t do it on a random comment talking about the take that the poster had on Ben.
@rickchadderdon3817
@rickchadderdon3817 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottsyverson1607 Facts are not biased. Interpretations of facts are often biased. Your argument here shows that you fully buy into the snuck premise of private property and cannot see past your preconceived belief that "of course there's private property!" You completely missed the presenter's point - and in fact, demonstrated it quite well. There was no anti-Shapiro bias in that section and the presentation was, indeed, quite neutral.
@moses7000
@moses7000 26 күн бұрын
I appreciate that this video is non-biased on the actual issues being discussed.
@jonathangair8031
@jonathangair8031 Жыл бұрын
Two Ben Shapiro's debating each other would result in overload and a complete explosion.
@donaldnelsonbarger2978
@donaldnelsonbarger2978 2 ай бұрын
"Implosion"
@AfterSkool
@AfterSkool 5 жыл бұрын
WARNING: Be careful when using any of these tactics with a girl you are dating. lol
@IAmGeorgeLucas
@IAmGeorgeLucas 5 жыл бұрын
Are you saying Ben "Virginity is Cool" Shapiro isn't a good model for dating? Who would have thought!
@klunkyfakeclank9686
@klunkyfakeclank9686 5 жыл бұрын
@@IAmGeorgeLucas cool, but when are you making a good Star Wars movie again?
@Felixrobinson
@Felixrobinson 5 жыл бұрын
@@IAmGeorgeLucas no no no, that meme format is reserved for Joe "do you smoke weed" Rogan only.
@theoriginaljubjub1996
@theoriginaljubjub1996 5 жыл бұрын
That's because women don't debate/argue fair. They are emotionally driven.
@RealityCheck6T9
@RealityCheck6T9 5 жыл бұрын
Facts don't care about your feelings babe
@thebagelman1507
@thebagelman1507 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the part where he says his wife is a doctor
@elcaminante29
@elcaminante29 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!
@collin3800
@collin3800 4 жыл бұрын
*Hebrew Hammer lol
@jkl3199
@jkl3199 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourbabyboyfriendonlyme2485 it became a kind of a meme because he says it a lot, i guess. Ben "my wife is a doctor" Shapiro.
@cesarchavez507
@cesarchavez507 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@zeynand4039
@zeynand4039 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourbabyboyfriendonlyme2485 what the hell, isn't that private info?
@lord_kerman
@lord_kerman 3 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear, lost argument with parents to "Because I said so" and am now grounded indefinitely
@kmlgraph
@kmlgraph Жыл бұрын
Another technique Ben uses is rapid speech which forces debate opponents to stop and think about what he said. This makes your opponent look weak because they don't have time to formulate an instant response.
@reda29100
@reda29100 10 ай бұрын
Hear faster. Problem solved. And just we're in the clear, I don't think you mean the gish galloping fallacy, where one throws as many objections in his speech time as possible that the audience thinks if the opponent failed to respond to all of them then one has won by default. You don't mean that objection, do you?
@reubenoakley5887
@reubenoakley5887 9 ай бұрын
As a fellow fast-talker who listens to podcasts (including Shapiro's) at x1.5 speed, all I can say is git gud
@zerochaos1
@zerochaos1 9 ай бұрын
He uses rapid speech to mask the logic errors and weakness in his own arguments. He is very immature and insulting. He is arrogant and prideful.
@reubenoakley5887
@reubenoakley5887 9 ай бұрын
@@zerochaos1 Git gud, scrub
@reda29100
@reda29100 9 ай бұрын
@@zerochaos1 Ironic! There is absolutely nothing wrong about presenting new arguments or angles from which you have to consider an issue at all! Otherwise, if all is scripted, then how different or professional really is any speaker, if they're doing nothing but regurgitating previously pointed out arguments? Amd for Zero, where is the wrong thing Ben is doing? Let me dissect (in the neutral sense, to just break down) your points. You're firstly assuming Ben's throwing fallacies and is fallen victim to cognitive biases a lot of the time, but his saving grace is how quickly he throws stuff at the opponent's wall and see what sticks. So firstly you're assuming he's using fallacies a lot of the time (which I'm not positively arguing against, but I seldom see him do those. You're more than welcome to point out where he did so.) It is only wrong logically to throw claims after claims that the opponent can't possibly address in the debate's time, and being segwayed into debunking and defending irrelevant points instead of addressing and debunking immediately relevant points to the debate's topic. Even then, overwhelming the audience with 10 issues when the debate can only handle 2 or 3 topics or subpoints at max, to me is a coward way of redherring and distracting the viewer's attention. And notice I specifically said "topics/isses" not "points", as I genuinely believe putting 15 arguments or points all immediately relevant to your case is absolutely fair game. I mean, it's a bit unfair given he can deliver 1.5-2 times the amount of info his opponent can, but is that a logical fallacy or a shameful tactic? I see it as much of a shameful tactic as someone knowing more than his opponent really. Speaking faster isn't that different from knowing a subject more deeply than your opponent if you think about it. Secondly, and where irony lies, you're yourself calling him names and for lack of a better word, poisoning the well on him. If the fallacy you were looking for was gish galloping, i.e., overwhelming the opponent with topics he can't address (like throwing accusations after the other that he can't recover from in the debate's time), then you yourself committed the unforgivable sin of using words in your favor. And before you call me a Ben-boi I'd like to inform you, I am an Arab myself, and regarding that thing going on I differ with DW and pretty much all of conservatives in this regard. So almost by definition I'd have to nitpick every flaw I can find of him and how twisted he is in his speeches. What I have is, gonna sound arrogant there, the intellectual courage to say he's right when he's right, and innocent of fallacies when he's innocent of those grave sins. I probably disagree with them on every single issue, albeit it slightly in most cases. But calling me a Ben fanboy ain't gonna cut it, especially given in his book I'm as antisemitic as one can possibly be. But when he's right, he's right.
@ricotheexmongolianslave692
@ricotheexmongolianslave692 5 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that he has infinite uno reverse cards
@ultraatari9298
@ultraatari9298 5 жыл бұрын
Anonymous person I just wanna get rid of moderators. don't care how or what people's why is. guess infinite number 2 cards with different colors lol
@hatim9687
@hatim9687 5 жыл бұрын
@@ultraatari9298 no u
@coldwind1791
@coldwind1791 5 жыл бұрын
Anonymous person Legend has it Ben was too afraid to debate Kyle kulinski.
@mr.boomguy
@mr.boomguy 5 жыл бұрын
I think of it the same way. +4 and Reverse!
@egz3637
@egz3637 5 жыл бұрын
K Im unculted Does the reverse car deflect back, or just change the orders that the players go
@aviatormatt9166
@aviatormatt9166 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine two Ben Shapiro's debating against each other.
@stanpentagon6175
@stanpentagon6175 4 жыл бұрын
Omg
@hyperstargaming6150
@hyperstargaming6150 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute war.
@beardieblighter9905
@beardieblighter9905 4 жыл бұрын
The smugness would rip a hole in our universe
@Angela.aaaaaaaa
@Angela.aaaaaaaa 4 жыл бұрын
You should watch him with Steven Crowder
@phongduong7486
@phongduong7486 4 жыл бұрын
Baltzar Bonbeck it didn’t have to be about politics, it could be everything you know :))))))
@iitim2152
@iitim2152 9 ай бұрын
Being right helps a lot!
@reneelibby4885
@reneelibby4885 3 ай бұрын
explains why Ben needs tricks
@daleburnfart6845
@daleburnfart6845 3 ай бұрын
@@reneelibby4885 name bens tricks. lol
@Maunti
@Maunti 2 ай бұрын
Nah it doesn't
@jamesmishoe7908
@jamesmishoe7908 Жыл бұрын
I love debating on many different issues, (especially Christian apologetics) but I want to get better with debating social issues.
@Bjorick
@Bjorick 25 күн бұрын
hmm, necro post - but i'm curious, why would you debate a christian apologetic? We're told that doing so hurts the faith, so you're not debating against someone who follows the word in full 2 Timothy 2:14 - Keep reminding God’s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen regardless, as a christian, I'm not looking for a debate and won't really reply if that's your response, I'm honestly just curious (I like to learn about people, especially those brave enough to state it so openly and simply - I've always respected that in that people and try to live it)
@jamesmishoe7908
@jamesmishoe7908 25 күн бұрын
@@Bjorick I don't debate other Christians. The purpose of debating is to prove to the unbelievers of the veracity, & inerance of the word of God.
@jasongilder22
@jasongilder22 8 күн бұрын
@@Bjorickfriendly fire lol
@noblecyborg-savage
@noblecyborg-savage 5 жыл бұрын
"So?" -Ben Shapiro
@elgatofelix8917
@elgatofelix8917 4 жыл бұрын
You misspelled Ben Shillpiro
@maskedmarvyl4774
@maskedmarvyl4774 4 жыл бұрын
Translation: "I can't answer your question honestly because I have no leg to stand on, so I'll just dismiss it, and act like I won the point".
@jgonzalez5884
@jgonzalez5884 4 жыл бұрын
So? He pointed out an obvious double standard and like piers Morgan you have no answer
@joshuaf1126
@joshuaf1126 4 жыл бұрын
@@maskedmarvyl4774 No, it's a good debate tactic. If someone brings up an irrelevant point or appeals to authority, it's good to question why it matters to the debate.
@dislike_button33
@dislike_button33 4 жыл бұрын
@@elgatofelix8917 Be original.
@snowleopard9463
@snowleopard9463 3 жыл бұрын
"Simply being offended doesn't prove anything" All twitter drama perfectly summed up
@svasianfilipiname6603
@svasianfilipiname6603 3 жыл бұрын
*ALL* Social Media (if not most) debates summed up haha!
@brockkickass8927
@brockkickass8927 3 жыл бұрын
Another favorite of my is Facts don't care about your feeling.
@John-oq6fe
@John-oq6fe 3 жыл бұрын
Also Reddit and Facebook
@jesuschristislord7754
@jesuschristislord7754 3 жыл бұрын
Twitter is a mental illness "platform".
@diachuskmk4232
@diachuskmk4232 3 жыл бұрын
And political tiktok
@michaelfletcher9156
@michaelfletcher9156 Жыл бұрын
Being a skilled debater does not make anyone morally superior.
@malcolm-danielfreeman5940
@malcolm-danielfreeman5940 4 күн бұрын
or even good (for the country)
@stevengoldstein114
@stevengoldstein114 6 ай бұрын
To use TRICKS to try to avoid answering the questions is a sign you cannot answer the questions. My old man always said you cannot avoid answering the questions, just answer them. What i see now is no one is actually having a discussion, just deflecting from each other.
@mikeezlove5006
@mikeezlove5006 10 күн бұрын
slappin at air call it patty cake ...
@brennanprobasco8888
@brennanprobasco8888 4 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly fun to listen to him debating. He’s very quick on his feet
@sinfulxiv9607
@sinfulxiv9607 4 жыл бұрын
Brennan Probasco Ikr, I don’t even like listening to debates but he makes it interesting
@sinfulxiv9607
@sinfulxiv9607 4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Millington Link?
@justas423
@justas423 4 жыл бұрын
Another reason why he's so dominant.
@drewsaluk6860
@drewsaluk6860 4 жыл бұрын
Sinfulxiv Nicholas Mullington doesn’t have a link
@kursor52
@kursor52 4 жыл бұрын
@@sinfulxiv9607 I think he's talking about the Andrew Neil interview. The left says Ben was humiliated. The right says the interviewer was being unreasonable. Check it out for yourself.
@danielbrowniel
@danielbrowniel 5 жыл бұрын
8. Talk 4 times faster than your opponent.
@SamihEdits
@SamihEdits 5 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@straightmelon8792
@straightmelon8792 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@uniquelyqualified3676
@uniquelyqualified3676 5 жыл бұрын
dude i was gonna comment this, you beat me ): talking faster makes your opponent shut up more
@dabesaroundnstuff920
@dabesaroundnstuff920 5 жыл бұрын
You can do that when u know what ur actually talking about
@johnnymac42069
@johnnymac42069 5 жыл бұрын
That's not a tactic that's genetics and upbringing lol
@sirius851
@sirius851 Жыл бұрын
This video just shows that the point of all those debates is just who is better at outsmarting the opponent instead of let's have an argument and fact driven dialogue to get the truth.
@CJB787
@CJB787 10 ай бұрын
Russel Brand once told Ben that he’s very good at winning debates without being right. That’s always stuck with me.
@dinuraboody1249
@dinuraboody1249 4 ай бұрын
Who's the arbiter of what's is right? Russel Brand?
@mikeezlove5006
@mikeezlove5006 10 күн бұрын
nope just stumpan the unaware... you can fight a ghost all day but only right actualy gets the attention of a welcomed invite like a silent meal of gratefull comfort ...or its as boreing as a wrestlen match with the tv shut off...
@langtangwang
@langtangwang 3 жыл бұрын
The main problem is that you only remember these premises when your in the shower 3 days later
@mr.squidward9936
@mr.squidward9936 3 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@lydialily846
@lydialily846 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly 🤣
@SlickSkuddy
@SlickSkuddy 3 жыл бұрын
In practice I wanna assume the timeframe becomes shorter
@dougo3592
@dougo3592 3 жыл бұрын
@@SlickSkuddy if you wanna be good just read books nd listen to people use these tactics a lot and then do actual debates even if you lose its experience
@boerbeun
@boerbeun 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougo3592 why should someone need to win argument. Why not have a conversation instead of "winning"
@elijahdoesstuff4600
@elijahdoesstuff4600 4 жыл бұрын
The shampoo bottles in my shower are gonna be so impressed.
@nickh.44
@nickh.44 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@itquankazi
@itquankazi 4 жыл бұрын
don’t understand your joke
@nickh.44
@nickh.44 4 жыл бұрын
@@itquankazi as in having arguments with your self in the showe
@tabithajones8808
@tabithajones8808 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@LeaksHater
@LeaksHater 4 жыл бұрын
I already destroyed one in the argument, now I'll be able to do the same thing to the other ones before.
@jamie-gy6bd
@jamie-gy6bd Жыл бұрын
Ben is on another Level
@arkyudetoo9555
@arkyudetoo9555 18 күн бұрын
He's a good debater, and when the subject is politics it's really hard to defeat his arguments. It's not that there's no defeater, but you really have to know the subject in and out to stand a chance.
@vilmospalik1480
@vilmospalik1480 4 жыл бұрын
I feel that during arguments people focus more on “winning” than being correct and that’s a really bad way to figure out who’s right becuase you might be wrong and you’ll still come out on top and that’s actually counter productive
@turbotrup96
@turbotrup96 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's a good thing, sometimes, at least? I mean, the more you're trying to defend your point, the more things you come up with that no one could think of if they weren't as determined.
@ShubhThakkar
@ShubhThakkar 4 жыл бұрын
@@turbotrup96 So you're basically saying that you would sacrifice the chances of your argument being correct, so that you can increase your chances of winning it? Trying to win an argument knowing that you're fundamentally wrong is the most basic sign of being a morally wrong person.
@turbotrup96
@turbotrup96 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShubhThakkar I'm not talking about consciously making a complex argument with hidden holes in it hoping that the opposing thinker won't see them. I'm talking about both sides being so determined and adrenaline-driven that they would squeeze out the very best of their views and come up with new arguments thanks to which they'd shed a new light on the topic they're discussing that others would most likely miss because they would give up too soon. Because, in the end, agreeable people will not have an astute enough discourse when they agree with each other too soon and move on to another topic or end the debate.
@og_finn661
@og_finn661 4 жыл бұрын
The issue with what is right or wrong is no all that clear. Nearly everything can be debated.
@appended1
@appended1 4 жыл бұрын
@@turbotrup96 I think it's important to be rigorous, but you're confusing arguments with debate. Two people debating will never almost never agree with each other on a fundamental level, because debate dictates that two sides are opposing each other. Even if they end up agreeing on something, debates are usually time-boxed so how long they spend debating is usually determined by the format of the debate. Arguments can end pretty quickly, but an ideal argument aims for understanding one another over anything else.
@hemmycream2905
@hemmycream2905 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS my sandcastle that I spent all day making
@FireliqhtzItsBecauseITry
@FireliqhtzItsBecauseITry 5 жыл бұрын
how original
@nokuhobune
@nokuhobune 5 жыл бұрын
You deserve it after all you made it of sand Next time go with concrete
@jake5042
@jake5042 5 жыл бұрын
NEXT MEME
@wootrofllol
@wootrofllol 5 жыл бұрын
ur making this up, ben shapiro isnt real
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 5 жыл бұрын
Then stop making your sandcastle out of fake news sand :P. Whole natural sand is the way to go xD
@Phier554
@Phier554 3 ай бұрын
His real skill he knows the opponents side better than they do.
@crawlback
@crawlback 2 ай бұрын
👌🍌ing Ben Shapiro is crazy
@AlcanderFlamen
@AlcanderFlamen 3 ай бұрын
Summary: 1. Catch Non-Arguments 1:15 2. Getting Emotional 2:01 3. Push For Specifics 2:45 4. Know Your Arguments Inside Out 4:11 Offensive Strategies: 5. The Use of Snuck Premises 6:07 6. Moving From Abstract To Concrete 8:40 7. Emphasize The Condition Under Which You Would Agree With Your Opponent 9:48 7.
@Dylan-so6su
@Dylan-so6su 4 жыл бұрын
You could argue just like Ben but you’re parents would still pull the “talking back” card
@veror6202
@veror6202 4 жыл бұрын
deadass😭
@raphaelalexandreyensen6291
@raphaelalexandreyensen6291 4 жыл бұрын
that's because your parents are playing the "I DEMAND YOUR COMPLIANCE" card, That works until you are capable of winning a physical fight, Then they have to use Soft power, to back those words, That words until you have soft power as well or own your own living space, At which point negotiation becomes optional.
@sagekevin6473
@sagekevin6473 4 жыл бұрын
parents see a logical ,reasonable an valid argument = DISRESPECTFUL
@nickhynes1278
@nickhynes1278 4 жыл бұрын
Tibs Sage that’s teachers all the way
@joelkosinski5094
@joelkosinski5094 4 жыл бұрын
I am your mother!
@plzineedtogowayrn6353
@plzineedtogowayrn6353 5 жыл бұрын
1) Choose Your Battles 2) Be prepared 3) Have facts backing up your argument
@MRocky323
@MRocky323 5 жыл бұрын
Shapiro never has #3.
@sonicthehedgehog1109
@sonicthehedgehog1109 5 жыл бұрын
@@MRocky323 yes he does! 🤣🤣🤣 What are you talking about???
@UserJWR
@UserJWR 5 жыл бұрын
@@sonicthehedgehog1109 No, he doesn't. He is just good at presenting arguments in a cohesive manner. But if you really dig into his arguments and the "facts" he states, you quickly notice they are usually full of logical fallacies (strawmanning being one of the key words here) and factual misrepresentation. Sometimes his "facts" are even drawn from scientifically dishonest sources. When it comes to the issue of black crime, he is especially dishonest and misrepresents the data/statistics badly, and in this particular case I am not even sure whether it's deliberate or not. So no, he usually does not have "facts" to back up his claims, he is just a mediocre debater picking his battles with even worse debaters.
@thibaultl1956
@thibaultl1956 5 жыл бұрын
UserJWR Alright so who’s you favorite debater? I’m honestly curious...
@UserJWR
@UserJWR 5 жыл бұрын
@@thibaultl1956 I like Sam Harris, because he always strives to be very clear about his definitions and is actually interested in what his opposition has to say. I can't really say a lot more about American debaters because I am from Germany and I am not that exposed to the political sphere, but in Germany I like Richard David Precht (political philosopher), because he is very easy to follow and his line of argumentation almost always makes perfect sense, at least to me. That being said, I don't think that debate is actually a good way to exchange ideas. Debating is usually about overwhelming your opponent with rhetorical tricks and thereby convincing an audience with rhetorical strength rather than argumentative strength. (There is a book called "How to be right" by Arthur Schopenhauer, which is filled with rhetorical tricks and logical fallacies and how to use them to win debates. You can just have it lying next to you when watching Shapiro and check off boxes, it's scary).Also, people can have good ideas but be extremely bad at debating, maybe because they can't come up with good responses on the spot or just because they don't like the spontaneous nature of debates. Or maybe they can't remember all of their arguments or get lost in between them. That doesn't mean, however, that they can't defend their idea or that their idea is bad. The best political philosophy emerged from a much more controlled way of discourse, namely through the exchange of (sometimes public) letters, where the disputants have much more time to think about their response and try to tear apart their opponent's argument. This makes it a lot harder to act in bad faith or to apply logical fallacies and get away with it. The modern equivalent would be the exchange of ideas through KZbin videos. That's why I enjoy Amazing Atheist, ContraPoints, Shaun, TLDR etc much more than debate videos.
@lynnrobinson8885
@lynnrobinson8885 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed learning this. I did notice you reference beforehand any comments you then played for us, and I do understand, as you also explained, that you didn’t want us to misconstrue any particular points one way or the other. I do realize that in our society today we have become perhaps to quick to speak or think before we just let ourselves hear what is the other person is asking, or answering. I think it is really great that you are putting this information out on a channel, and why I am going to follow it! Thank you for already teaching me something today!😉
@glennpowell1838
@glennpowell1838 Жыл бұрын
An expert debater. Thank you
@benvaldezjr.7250
@benvaldezjr.7250 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Ben playing as an impostor in Among us.
@YungOsamaCoin
@YungOsamaCoin 3 жыл бұрын
Ben Ten if they had a leader board he would be #1
@geico_drip9878
@geico_drip9878 3 жыл бұрын
he would win every game
@grinreaperoftrolls7528
@grinreaperoftrolls7528 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, God
@pinoybladee5432
@pinoybladee5432 3 жыл бұрын
so hypothetically for the sake of argument, let's say i was the impostor
@thepingusaver292
@thepingusaver292 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, he’s pretty sus
@CameronMetrejean
@CameronMetrejean 4 жыл бұрын
2:08 “Simply being offended doesn’t prove anything.” Oh hallelujah, thank you for saying that.
@benwatson5787
@benwatson5787 4 жыл бұрын
​@@crungus__ since anyone can be offended at anything, that isn't proving anything beyond a person finds something offensive. I could be offended by someone saying hello to me but that doesn't mean it is objectively offensive.
@vergil1983
@vergil1983 4 жыл бұрын
@@benwatson5787 libtard destroyed
@adele19b3
@adele19b3 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Watson are you trying to convince someone who disagrees with you, the merit of your argument. Callousness has never worked.
@benwatson5787
@benwatson5787 4 жыл бұрын
@@adele19b3 I was agreeing with Cameron and disagreeing with Soviet, not quite sure what you mean.
@akamemurasame4527
@akamemurasame4527 3 жыл бұрын
​@@benwatson5787 But what makes something objectively offensive? All offense is subjective and by that logic nothing should be offensive to anyone...
@free2bme640
@free2bme640 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely appreciate all the videos you share. This one in particular because it will possibly give me a chance to win at least a few debates between my son and I. I love him to death, but he is an incredible debater. I seem to fall victim to his skill and experience.
@free2bme640
@free2bme640 Жыл бұрын
@Owen Reid Too funny! Yes, or try to school each other for the "next time s".
@paultardspambot
@paultardspambot Жыл бұрын
A question I wuld ask is what is your goal in debating with your son? Why do you want to "win" debates? What are your actual goals there? Unless it's someting you and your son do for fun and understand you are debating as a type of game, I don't think trying to learn tactics to "beat" your son at debate is likely to accomplish any goal I would associate with parenting.
@unnamedminus
@unnamedminus 9 ай бұрын
You got this, Mrs. Shapiro!
@carolinej3661
@carolinej3661 9 ай бұрын
So, the point of a "debate," in your view, is not to learn or hear other ideas, but to *win.* And that is exactly how this guy views it.
@FatherHat
@FatherHat 7 ай бұрын
Yoo that's hilarious 😂😂
@adrianabarnard6402
@adrianabarnard6402 Жыл бұрын
I might need to listen to this about 1,000 times more because I am terrible arguing with people I just want to find the facts throw them on your face and have the case close I struggle to understand tactics.
@supertrendymoneymaker0722
@supertrendymoneymaker0722 Жыл бұрын
Me too but if you are ambushed by multiple people in an argument, definitely use this video as your guide to put them all in a trap.
@xitaris5981
@xitaris5981 Жыл бұрын
Most debates seem to occur more when people have different information on a subject rather than a difference of opinion. If you want to 'win' you typically have to know your facts and sources quite well and be able to predict theirs.
@stevenlindell3249
@stevenlindell3249 Жыл бұрын
@@xitaris5981 Or having the same facts, but interpreting them in a stronger rhetorical way, you "win." That's the problem here. Tactics not fact....icts.
@MyJAJAJAJJA
@MyJAJAJAJJA Жыл бұрын
The "facts" ? haha No you want to find words to support whatever side you've chosen to be on. And you call it facts when it support your subjective views.
@jewmail5395
@jewmail5395 9 ай бұрын
Expand ur vocabulary. And any time u think of a question u don’t know the answer to, google it and then expand on that google search. Information seeking and a wide range of vocabulary is a good place to start.
@hallukaksi
@hallukaksi 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays everyone argues to win and not to learn.
@HQBergeron
@HQBergeron 3 жыл бұрын
Allu: When one is trying to reason with a leftist, one can be certain they are not interested in learning from you, and you can also be certain there is nothing available to learn from their fact-free emotion-based regurgitated-talking-point rant which passes for an argument only in their own mind, so that’s how we get there. 🤣
@SuperSky9
@SuperSky9 3 жыл бұрын
@@HQBergeron Agreed all they do is throw hissy fitt about things they don't understand.
@darkspawn4980
@darkspawn4980 3 жыл бұрын
@@HQBergeron the right side is the mirror image of the left. You look exactly like each other but your both on different sides of the mirror
@HQBergeron
@HQBergeron 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkspawn4980 You must place your mirror differently than I place mine. On the other side of my mirror is a dense, immovable wall. That is the left. On my side is life in all its glory. Which side are you on?
@darkspawn4980
@darkspawn4980 3 жыл бұрын
@@HQBergeron the trapped side, but if you place another mirror facing yours I'll be free
@tylerleavens4133
@tylerleavens4133 4 жыл бұрын
Piers was on the “how dare you” before Greta
@arhamsaa
@arhamsaa 3 жыл бұрын
@@donkeylord3517 It's still uncool
@officialgilmore22
@officialgilmore22 3 жыл бұрын
@Golden Eagle "that seems mildly inappropriate for a political debate" 🤣
@DK-vx5co
@DK-vx5co Жыл бұрын
Ben is a master-debater and a cunning linguist.
@EsoTarikZ
@EsoTarikZ 9 ай бұрын
…Against college kids.
@davep1925
@davep1925 9 ай бұрын
​@@EsoTarikZyou missed the double entendre. Twice. So I guess you doubled the double entendre. Are you a college kid by the way?
@Candolad
@Candolad 9 ай бұрын
And you're a wordsmith 😃
@davep1925
@davep1925 9 ай бұрын
@@Candolad If you define a word smith as being writer with writing credentials...then yes. Indeed I am. Although my spelling is lacking.
@KnucklSandwich
@KnucklSandwich 9 ай бұрын
He's a LIAR who supports the terrorist state of Israel. Enough said.
@dam3d
@dam3d Жыл бұрын
You know what would be a great addition to your videos, would be a direct link or links to Just Ben Shapiro's guide, or Jordan Peterson's guide, WITHOUT narration.
@JustADudeDoingSomething
@JustADudeDoingSomething 4 жыл бұрын
"If the other person ends up attacking you, you are actually winning the debate" I like that
@dudies3377
@dudies3377 4 жыл бұрын
Not actually true most of the time. Really just depends on the type of “attack.”
@jazz3261
@jazz3261 4 жыл бұрын
@@dudies3377 Yea i dont think you'd win the debate if someone just ran up and 'attacked' u by punching u in the face. I think tht just means you need to learn to duck 😂😂
@JustADudeDoingSomething
@JustADudeDoingSomething 3 жыл бұрын
@@dudies3377 "winning the debate" not "winning the boxing match"
@dudies3377
@dudies3377 3 жыл бұрын
Takumi If you sincerely thought I was referring to physical attacks, I feel sorry for you.
@dudies3377
@dudies3377 3 жыл бұрын
Lovemercy You sound extremely obnoxious and biased. Both liberalism and conservatism are beliefs based on differing values and have their pros and cons. Saying that one side’s beliefs are inherently correct and the other side’s are irrelevant just means you’re too indoctrinated by your ideals to possibly engage in any meaningful discourse regarding the topic. Perhaps you should check yourself and try being a bit more open-minded
@connorriggs2284
@connorriggs2284 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS MY PARENTS MARRIAGE by SIGNING DIVORCE PAPERS
@mig4266
@mig4266 5 жыл бұрын
Connor Riggs NOW THAT IS EPIC
@cometomatt
@cometomatt 5 жыл бұрын
are you implying Ben is your dad?
@RustoKomuska
@RustoKomuska 5 жыл бұрын
Another libtard rekt
@iimlazyy
@iimlazyy 5 жыл бұрын
OoOoOooOOooOooOoOof
@wackmysack1065
@wackmysack1065 5 жыл бұрын
Very epic
@edgelord2518
@edgelord2518 Жыл бұрын
I love humiliating people with intelligence
@ippinekebe3238
@ippinekebe3238 Жыл бұрын
If you can defend yourself vocally, physically, and mentally - You will be a force to be reckoned with. Speaking of experience.
@dcb289
@dcb289 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro SAVAGELY DESTROYS the sandcastle that I took 2 hours to build
@zmbk8841
@zmbk8841 5 жыл бұрын
With FACTS and LOGIC
@cigarette8600
@cigarette8600 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, this is epic
@localcrackhead2904
@localcrackhead2904 5 жыл бұрын
*Ben shaprio yelling at a sand castle in the face*
@CanadianRM4
@CanadianRM4 5 жыл бұрын
Then don't be a child. Stop building sandcastles!!
@vincentscholl319
@vincentscholl319 5 жыл бұрын
@Leisure LOL thank you for that
@sbcookies6240
@sbcookies6240 3 жыл бұрын
He talks so fast and doesn't stutter, and taks with confidence that's his secret
@blobblue6833
@blobblue6833 3 жыл бұрын
I have Invisalign so I stutter a lot now, is the best strategy to speak slowly but with confidence or fast with confidence and pretend I didn’t stutter?
@e.m.4165
@e.m.4165 3 жыл бұрын
@@blobblue6833 probably speaking slowly
@gauravtributes5023
@gauravtributes5023 3 жыл бұрын
@@blobblue6833 Does Invisalign makes one stutter ? Then i don't know if i should get one.
@jackl.1759
@jackl.1759 3 жыл бұрын
Talking fast and not stuttering doesn't make your points correct. Sure, speaking with confidence is important, but it won't "win" the discussion alone.
@e.m.4165
@e.m.4165 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackl.1759 exactly!!
@clareowens2597
@clareowens2597 Ай бұрын
Love Ben! One of if not the best political debaters in our time. What a great time to be alive!
@KienDLuu
@KienDLuu Жыл бұрын
“If you’re richer you tend to be married longer” If you think about the causation, it’s not a good implication. It’s ironic because Shapiro was trying to imply that rich people have more successful marriages. What he fails to acknowledge is that the census simply implies that couples hold off divorce because of the money - counter to what Shapiro posits, which is that richer people tend to have a higher belief in the sanctity of marriage. Shapiro does it countless times whilst debating over the years and I find it quite disengenuous.
@juliac3597
@juliac3597 Жыл бұрын
Or it could mean that the stress of financial strain can break up a marriage. It doesn't necessarily mean that poor people value marriage less, only that being poor makes marriage harder. You have a smaller home, less personal space, more financial stresses, less free time, etc.
@BobbyT.
@BobbyT. 5 жыл бұрын
"Where did you get those statistics?" "Census Bureau." 😂had me dying
@jengleheimerschmitt7941
@jengleheimerschmitt7941 5 жыл бұрын
"Where does it _say_ The Boy Scouts of America is just for boys?" "In the name."
@funkymunky7935
@funkymunky7935 5 жыл бұрын
A bit better response than "google it!" 😂😂😂
@sasukeisacat
@sasukeisacat 5 жыл бұрын
He was damn ready
@613harbinger316
@613harbinger316 5 жыл бұрын
And the way he just backed off. That was quite an "Oh $#!t" moment for him.
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 5 жыл бұрын
Reuben Kim the guy was probably thinking he would stump him lol
@wallybeegone
@wallybeegone 5 жыл бұрын
He’s really just a well trained lawyer. Go to law school and take negotiations. They teach you ways to poke holes, and guide others to your point and side.
@anyexpat
@anyexpat 4 жыл бұрын
You mean insist on evidence v opinion and be well prepared? That is all this is
@jujeybeanzz
@jujeybeanzz 4 жыл бұрын
Marisa Nya you really tried but that’s so untrue he just doesn’t say your side of the argument so you’re going to say he’s wrong, but if you FACT check he’s completely correct. You are just a leftist sheep
@austind7232
@austind7232 4 жыл бұрын
@Marisa Nya That's actually a bold faced lie, if you listened to anything he's said on the matter in the last 2-3 years, he's changed his stance on this. Nice try though.
@Thisismyhandle8383
@Thisismyhandle8383 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm sounds like a shallow insult to dismiss what he’s actually saying.
@project_nihilist
@project_nihilist 4 жыл бұрын
Id argue he was probably in debate club in high school. If I had any idea Debating was as much fun as other ...bating Id of joined the Debate class.
@skatertrev7
@skatertrev7 Жыл бұрын
#8. Start every rebuttle with, "So let's say..." then setup a hypothetical situation and back it up with points not rooted in reality.
@louismahon6834
@louismahon6834 Жыл бұрын
oh okay so basically trying to save face even when you're wrong. great advice dude
@mcurcio8315
@mcurcio8315 4 жыл бұрын
When he said “So?” to piers morgan HAHAHHAHA i laughed
@NaziBlitz
@NaziBlitz 4 жыл бұрын
Margot emmy Mc Mc that’s cool
@DlcEnergy
@DlcEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
when i read "HAHAHHAHA i laughed" LOOOL i laughed out out out loud
@Yorokobi_1
@Yorokobi_1 4 жыл бұрын
So?
@iamgoo
@iamgoo 4 жыл бұрын
F***ing pansies. He said so because that wasnt a valid point and he wanted him to elaborate. Doesn't surprise me someone who doesn't have logic doesn't understand this
@luqmanahmad9294
@luqmanahmad9294 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment was good but you could of stated it differently
@stevenbaldwin7096
@stevenbaldwin7096 5 жыл бұрын
Reason number 8: his wife is a doctor.
@saral19
@saral19 5 жыл бұрын
What's your point?
@stevenundisclosed6091
@stevenundisclosed6091 5 жыл бұрын
@@saral19 you have much to learn.
@resir9807
@resir9807 5 жыл бұрын
this actually got me to smirk at my phone😂
@runhomie1013
@runhomie1013 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@eundoparkmusic
@eundoparkmusic 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@teams3345
@teams3345 9 ай бұрын
I love Ben. He always wins the argument.
@robertsweeney5635
@robertsweeney5635 Жыл бұрын
Masters of debate in the last 25 years, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams, Ann Coulter, Katie Pavlich and the Master of debate in this time, Ben Shapiro. Thank you all!
@arghyaroy8723
@arghyaroy8723 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Ben Shapiro as your lawyer in court.
@staeslait2343
@staeslait2343 3 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro Becomes Lawyer, Judge Is Arrested For Murder
@PGOuma
@PGOuma 3 жыл бұрын
I would lose every case D,:
@rantranger1527
@rantranger1527 3 жыл бұрын
@@PGOuma : *Watches the video* Also you: Imma pretend I didn't see that
@hueyfreeman1983
@hueyfreeman1983 3 жыл бұрын
@FuckOuttaHere Only if the jury are a bunch of stoned college kids with no confidence
@MrLeolesh
@MrLeolesh 3 жыл бұрын
@@hueyfreeman1983 by confidence, do you mean, always feeling the comforting support of the herd? Lol stay "woke", sheeple.
@davefiano4172
@davefiano4172 3 жыл бұрын
As children we learn to use emotions to get what we want...like crying. Some people never grow out of it to one extent or the other.
@foreverlikethestarss
@foreverlikethestarss 3 жыл бұрын
Geez I remembered when my brother was like that
@dimplemaini
@dimplemaini 3 жыл бұрын
They cried as kids and they get offended as adults 😆
@williammitchell6254
@williammitchell6254 3 жыл бұрын
But it works for ben, cant win em all I guess
@markme4
@markme4 3 жыл бұрын
😭
@jeremywinslow7345
@jeremywinslow7345 3 жыл бұрын
They are called democrats... the ones that only cry to get their way
@firehazard0942
@firehazard0942 Ай бұрын
I think Ben’s method of breaking down his opponent’s argument, really helps them to see it in a different way that they couldn’t when they were blind by their belief
@Mr.Heinous
@Mr.Heinous Жыл бұрын
I've smoked too much weed in my 44 years to debate anyone on anything. I just go off on a tangent that makes no sense to anyone but myself.
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha RIGHT! Thoughts that could win Nobel
@rhyswilliams6271
@rhyswilliams6271 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you do this objectively, and don't endorse or refute him.
@sasukeisacat
@sasukeisacat 5 жыл бұрын
It kinda upsets me . 😂 I mean it's really professional and I like that but it starts to make me think he's on the opposing side of me .
@rhyswilliams6271
@rhyswilliams6271 5 жыл бұрын
@@sasukeisacat I tend to like people more when they agree with me too, tribalism is normal. But sometimes you've just gotta try and separate art from artist although sometimes I do struggle with that
@justt7767
@justt7767 5 жыл бұрын
Sparrow Uchiha I feel like COC is liberal, I know he said he didn’t vote for Trump (while by no means does that make you a liberal, I know many conservatives that didn’t, Shapiro is one of them) but I feel like he is left leaning. But I could be wrong. But he has been unbiased in my experiences with watching his videos.
@justt7767
@justt7767 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Chen what don’t you feel him being left leaning or him being unbiased?
@lbuday
@lbuday 5 жыл бұрын
@@sasukeisacat republicans watch his videos too he cant alienate them
@kj-fh1mm
@kj-fh1mm 4 жыл бұрын
8) If you are out of ideas and hopelessly pinned, don't forget the classic, "Your pp small"
@MrEggy-ju9ct
@MrEggy-ju9ct 4 жыл бұрын
Or your mom gah
@chaoszero11
@chaoszero11 4 жыл бұрын
Ol’ reliable
@fransciscoeldrako8870
@fransciscoeldrako8870 4 жыл бұрын
Cant Best that!
@MrEggy-ju9ct
@MrEggy-ju9ct 4 жыл бұрын
@Mutated Pearl that can ne countered with"your family tree LGBT
@gaydummy2845
@gaydummy2845 4 жыл бұрын
Or the overwhelmingly victorious « no u »
@robertrodes1546
@robertrodes1546 Жыл бұрын
Winning even if you're wrong seems like a pretty conflicted goal.
@babyblueLEGEND
@babyblueLEGEND 10 ай бұрын
It's not a problem for an amoral person.
@deeorr6403
@deeorr6403 15 күн бұрын
When my neighbor resorted to stabbing me multiple times, it was only then I knew I won the verbal argument
@erickeism
@erickeism 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually more impressed with the people that understand what Ben's saying without subtitles
@ssh1487
@ssh1487 4 жыл бұрын
That's literally one of his tactics, to talk so fast that his opponent can't even process what he's saying fast enough to come up with a measured response on time
@bellab.9159
@bellab.9159 4 жыл бұрын
@@ssh1487 Honestly though I'm sure his quick speaking completely confuses people... I mean I was watching a video of his where he took a political compass quiz and he was going *so fast* I had to check to make sure the video wasn't on 2x speed
@alexrothwell2053
@alexrothwell2053 4 жыл бұрын
I watch his videos on x2, I don't know what you're conplaining about. But when I watch other videos on x2 they seem normal...
@kadiereed9615
@kadiereed9615 4 жыл бұрын
What can I say I’m a rare breed
@bellab.9159
@bellab.9159 4 жыл бұрын
Keko Rules Oh my goodness, yep, that one as well! Really, always 😂
@fieldzs1552
@fieldzs1552 4 жыл бұрын
I totally didn't watch this so I can win a debate with my parents
@mobslayer211
@mobslayer211 4 жыл бұрын
Lol,don't try his tactics(it will piss them off,but you'll sound smarter)
@shirouradman6550
@shirouradman6550 4 жыл бұрын
@@mobslayer211 They hated him because they told them the truth.
@BaldTorment
@BaldTorment 4 жыл бұрын
They might hit you with the "because I said so"
@blakedavis2447
@blakedavis2447 4 жыл бұрын
Bald Torment I think you could argue that’s a argument based on authority ( which isn’t necessarily good or bad ) which just means they don’t have a sound argument if that’s their only reason for you being wrong
@BaldTorment
@BaldTorment 4 жыл бұрын
@@blakedavis2447 "I told you so" counters even the greatest arguments
@doro626
@doro626 Жыл бұрын
Ben really rubs me the wrong way on some things, but I have so much respect for how he debates and presents facts. You cant come to him all Raggedy Andy and not expect him to tear you to shreds.
@saacattaac007
@saacattaac007 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro: the only man that can pull off a stutter
@TheScopeGlint
@TheScopeGlint 4 жыл бұрын
Havkey you just have to do it superhumanly fast
@dkvitaleme
@dkvitaleme 4 жыл бұрын
Obama man.
@abc1234567a1
@abc1234567a1 4 жыл бұрын
No he’s not the only man who can but he’s one of the best
@solace6064
@solace6064 4 жыл бұрын
Troy Oliver yes he is
@thenarrator869
@thenarrator869 4 жыл бұрын
Tim pool.
@99tib
@99tib 4 жыл бұрын
I understand why he had to do it, but its still sad he has to continually say "I'm not saying I agree with Ben" or something of that nature because he knows the internet will turn it into him being right wing conservative just because he made a video on Ben Shapiro. Edit: I am brain dead from reading the comments under my own comment. Almost all of your comments have 0 to do with what I even said.
@michaelhighlights1614
@michaelhighlights1614 4 жыл бұрын
its also funny how people in their particular political surrounding often state at which side they stand before they even say anything so as not be attacked by their "allies" for an unpopular opinion
@99tib
@99tib 4 жыл бұрын
R Parker right that’s my point. He might dislike Ben Shapiro but still respects his debate skills. He keeps having to state that the video is not him agreeing with Ben bc so many people take the idea of complimenting ones skills as the same agreeing with the point of view.
@cognoscenti2011
@cognoscenti2011 4 жыл бұрын
People are so scared to be trolled by SJW Marxists....
@crimson6952
@crimson6952 4 жыл бұрын
Most Americans are conservatives tho
@99tib
@99tib 4 жыл бұрын
Ethereal even if this was true, it wouldn’t matter. Super far leftists, not average democrats, cancel anyone who doesn’t fully agree with their POV.
@sssssnake222
@sssssnake222 8 ай бұрын
Truth is the best trick.
@AnExpiredGrapefruit
@AnExpiredGrapefruit 5 жыл бұрын
8. Have a wife who's a doctor
@Joe-pi9bx
@Joe-pi9bx 5 жыл бұрын
9. have a doctor who is a wife.
@adepic7927
@adepic7927 5 жыл бұрын
11. Obtain a doctor wife
@hekutokku
@hekutokku 5 жыл бұрын
An expired grapefruit 12. Marry woman with a doctorate
@leslied.2475
@leslied.2475 5 жыл бұрын
13. Be the husband of a doctor
@MK-pf9lq
@MK-pf9lq 5 жыл бұрын
14. Always mention youre wife's a doctor
@CausalityLoop
@CausalityLoop 4 жыл бұрын
(hidden bonus reason): argue against people bad at arguing
@businessmandan
@businessmandan 4 жыл бұрын
The Stig no haha
@justas423
@justas423 4 жыл бұрын
@@businessmandan I mean if one side is better than the other at arguing then yeah that side has a higher chance of success.
@sirbedivere5670
@sirbedivere5670 4 жыл бұрын
Slimeustas Not really. People bad at arguing are often very good at making fallacy, albeit unintentionally. If you are not experienced enough, you will lose very fast.
@forposterity4031
@forposterity4031 4 жыл бұрын
@@sirbedivere5670 Ben is good at concocting a fallacy, which is another hidden reason.
@mikew2610
@mikew2610 4 жыл бұрын
@@justas423 No it's about an experiencd debater debating inexperienced college kids.
@dbslqjm
@dbslqjm Жыл бұрын
The winner of an argument is not the one who is right; it is the one who can prove that they are right.
@ettabrummel538
@ettabrummel538 8 ай бұрын
But in the end, it is the TRUTH which wins.
@Mr.Reality
@Mr.Reality Жыл бұрын
0:55 bro took that like a champ 😂
@hymanocohann2698
@hymanocohann2698 3 жыл бұрын
I find that when the enemy loses his temper, I've won.
@bruggbruh
@bruggbruh 3 жыл бұрын
so say you destroy something of your enemy’s that is very epic to him and he gets mad did you win because he got pissed off for destroying his thing? or are you the one to blame for making him mad cus you destroyed something of his that wasn’t yours?
@kamalkumar7978
@kamalkumar7978 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruggbruh that is what a debate is i.e. destroy your opponents.
@__-dq9ev
@__-dq9ev 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruggbruh That's the point of a debate. You destroy what your opponent defends
@hughmungus7425
@hughmungus7425 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but if it's before you've even had a chance to say anything of substance (like what happened to Ben on the BBC) then it's more like the person who got mad forfeited
@whatwhatwhatwhat3953
@whatwhatwhatwhat3953 3 жыл бұрын
@@__-dq9ev It's never about convincing others to believe your stance, right? It's just about who can boost their ego better at the expense of another person.
@MosesEmmet
@MosesEmmet 5 жыл бұрын
Ben shuts down bad arguments so fast they don’t really know how to respond. Game - Set - and Match.
@jirkazalabak1514
@jirkazalabak1514 5 жыл бұрын
And yet, he refused to have any debates at this year´s Politicon. Gee, I wonder why.
@sasukeisacat
@sasukeisacat 5 жыл бұрын
@@jirkazalabak1514 because everyone at politicon has a restraining order against him because he be too good or he didn't see any real challenge (or maybe he was just busy, you never know, you're not him)
@mohammedsarker5756
@mohammedsarker5756 5 жыл бұрын
If you actually watched the video you'll see that he's a great grandstander and uses rhetoric effectively. Is he extremely good at presenting his points and flustering his opponents? Hell yeah, he is but how good you are at debate doesn't necessarily mean what you're arguing for is actually correct
@NateFord
@NateFord 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro is a hack. He backs up bad ideas with good arguments and data that sounds convincing but is usually disproven or shaky at best
@jirkazalabak1514
@jirkazalabak1514 5 жыл бұрын
@@sasukeisacat No, he was giving a speech and then having a panel with his cronies from Daily Wire I believe. So yes, he was at Politicon, and he was there the whole time. He got several challenges, including Kyle Kulinski, but for some reason "Mr. I will debate anyone" didn´t actually debate anyone. I will admit that he is impressive against college kids, but in that debate with Cenk last year, I really felt like he was just resorting to getting cheap laughs, which admittedly worked quite well. As far as the facts went though, it was Cenk almost all the way, and I am not a fan of TYT. I was genuinely surprised when I watched it. It turns out that when his opponents have done as much research as he has, he is a lot less impressive all of a sudden. At least that´s my experience from having seen a lot of his material.
@joldendoves2795
@joldendoves2795 Жыл бұрын
The real key is Ben does his homework
@openmind2464
@openmind2464 Жыл бұрын
I don't sneak private property into conversations. I declare it openly and defend it explicitly. I don't consider sneaking things until people's minds a victory in debate. The goal is to convince not trick.
@christinaelizabeth9400
@christinaelizabeth9400 3 жыл бұрын
The most important of all these factors is RESEARCH! When you give yourself the tools (knowledge, wisdom, facts, research) you have an entire toolkit of ammo (builds confidence) to use your logic brain to slay.
@TheNuggzt3r
@TheNuggzt3r 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The facts are the main part, the skills help to break through the other one's stubbornness.
@joakimtjernet1098
@joakimtjernet1098 3 жыл бұрын
Well ben shapiro doesnt actually bring facts to the table, he just cherry picks his information and says it fast. Just do the research and you will Quickly see how fraudulent most of his views are. He also normally debates uneducated students anyways and as quick as he meets someone like literally the self called ape Joe Rogan he gets challenged.
@MiketheNerdRanger
@MiketheNerdRanger 3 жыл бұрын
Just be careful; there's a lot of disinformation out there.
@thinginground5179
@thinginground5179 3 жыл бұрын
@@gears265 You can't just "learn" to be wise. True wisdom is through experience.
@--Ezra--
@--Ezra-- 3 жыл бұрын
Logics doesn't always aline with common sense; )
@velocity173
@velocity173 4 жыл бұрын
You know it’s all over when Ben smirks
@tva7263
@tva7263 4 жыл бұрын
I just saw another video that criticized his smirking as it meant he was making his opponent mad, that may be the case or not. I think when Ben smirks he is thinking checkmate ...
@izzybear943
@izzybear943 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@garysofko
@garysofko 3 жыл бұрын
Smirks. In other words reveals himself to be a smug self serving bully.
@argargargpirate
@argargargpirate 3 жыл бұрын
@Cody - Ikigai He can only beat college randos lmfao
@generalgrievous9503
@generalgrievous9503 3 жыл бұрын
@@argargargpirate Incorrect. He’s debated news outlets and congress people
@kellyc4144
@kellyc4144 Жыл бұрын
Im in awe of him, his speaking reflects the speed at which his mind works. I always think of all the good replies 2 hours after the "debate" ha!
@dinuraboody1249
@dinuraboody1249 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure he actually slows down his speech so most ppl could understand what's he's saying.
@randomuserame
@randomuserame 9 ай бұрын
First lesson in logical argumentation: *Logic does not concern itself with what is right; It only determines what conclusions are valid given established premises* Second lesson in logical argumentation: _Attack the premise, not the conclusion._ Third lesson in logical argumentation: Even the most logical person is subject to emotional manipulation. Listen closely and push the right buttons.
@kolamoose8717
@kolamoose8717 4 жыл бұрын
“My doctor is a a wife” -Ben Shrapnel
@destroykevi2657
@destroykevi2657 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh dat boi sed
@shirouradman6550
@shirouradman6550 4 жыл бұрын
@Natasel At least not outside of the bed.
@AphoticGoblin
@AphoticGoblin 4 жыл бұрын
Kolamoose 666 likes pls don’t like
@No-pp1yi
@No-pp1yi 4 жыл бұрын
Bro I had to do a double take to realize that something was wrong I'm done with myself
@ravindupabasara3016
@ravindupabasara3016 3 жыл бұрын
I’m scared of getting on a plane with Ben Shapiro, he’d destroy that left wing.
@ravindupabasara3016
@ravindupabasara3016 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Robshaw 😂😂
@ravindupabasara3016
@ravindupabasara3016 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Robshaw hell yeah man😂damn that reply is fire🔥
@GaySatanicClowns
@GaySatanicClowns 3 жыл бұрын
@@ravindupabasara3016 The plane would be on fire.
@ravindupabasara3016
@ravindupabasara3016 3 жыл бұрын
@@GaySatanicClowns yeah🤣
@alexniebrzegowski6800
@alexniebrzegowski6800 3 жыл бұрын
Comment appreciated :)
@realtaiter3991
@realtaiter3991 Жыл бұрын
When he says how dare you to Ben, he actually had a kid in a wheelchair from sandy hook on set that he was gonna bring out. After Ben accused him flat he chose to not bring him out.
@tysonatkins2236
@tysonatkins2236 Жыл бұрын
Ben doesn't argue, he debates. Small minded people argue because they want to "win" by proving they're right. Ben is humble and states facts, and can reference those facts on the spot. We can all learn a lot from Ben Shapiro!
@Shawn-zt3gv
@Shawn-zt3gv Жыл бұрын
Lol he's humble that's funny. Most of his facts are just his opinions
@tysonatkins2236
@tysonatkins2236 Жыл бұрын
@@Shawn-zt3gv Everything we were taught in school is someone's opinion. What goes up, must come down. = Opinion. For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. = Opinion. Electricity always follows the path of least resistance. = Opinion.
@Shawn-zt3gv
@Shawn-zt3gv Жыл бұрын
@@tysonatkins2236 lol nope that's not true. There are laws that have been proven by thousands of tests. It's scary to realize people think like this
@Correct-correctself
@Correct-correctself Жыл бұрын
@@tysonatkins2236 all those are difinative FACTS If you disagree you must live on a different planet because down here on earth what go s up DOES come down etc
@AbhiBass96
@AbhiBass96 5 жыл бұрын
**Watches video** **turns into lawyer**
@myman8336
@myman8336 5 жыл бұрын
Well done.. Where's my cut?
@chrishtrevor3770
@chrishtrevor3770 5 жыл бұрын
Ahaha
@ole555
@ole555 5 жыл бұрын
@Dave Liebers He is not quite clear about whether the term "their money" refers to a legal or a moral distinction. I would assume a moral one, in which case there is no clear, default reference by which this definition can be taken as a given, which is the premise he is trying to sneak in. Also, unless you actually want to claim that the distribution of resources which results from the _complete absence_ of any regulation whatsoever is the only proper one, you are going to have to acknowledge that there is in fact a legitimate argument about what it means to "earn" money and what the moral implications of a particular situation is, however inconvenient this may be to your tribalist, ideological sense of superiority.
@whenbicycle_1579
@whenbicycle_1579 5 жыл бұрын
Guy literally tried to make a point that he wants to fight racism but he cannot because his opponents won't explain what racism is. This isn't what debates are about. He just likes to talk fast and trick his opponents into confusion. Not making a valid point or promoting healthy dialogue. He is an insult to intelligence.
@homelessman1453
@homelessman1453 5 жыл бұрын
@Dave Liebers Do you think you can destroy libtards like Ben Shapiro does? Because I can't.
@californiabrotherhood8114
@californiabrotherhood8114 4 жыл бұрын
Unlike Jorge Ramos. He let his opponents talk first and doesn’t interrupt them. And thats a tactic he uses to trap his opponents...
@Pluxei
@Pluxei 4 жыл бұрын
California Brotherhood He also interrupts alot though
@idkbro8470
@idkbro8470 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen his bbc interview..??
@goblinsgambits196
@goblinsgambits196 4 жыл бұрын
Why try to defeat your opponent when you can let them defeat themselves?
@SmittenAce
@SmittenAce 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pluxei only when he found them out it's fun to watch
@Tazzy5
@Tazzy5 4 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT observation.
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