Destroy On Sight: Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith + Kodama's Infinite Commander Combo | MTG

[@casketbase7750]

During Prof’s explanation of how Kodama and Toggo’s effects feed into one another, I kept thinking of the iconic Iron Giant scene where he says *”Rock...? Tree..?”*

[@obadijahparks]

My man! Genius! Someone make a proxy.

[@kgodbey]

“The Ridge Wallet is, unlike a stack of Magic cards, flat.” Professor, as a medical professional, I feel I need to caution you that that much salt isn’t good for your blood pressure.

[@Gevaudan1471]

Where's the lie?

[@kgodbey]

@@Gevaudan1471 No lie at all. I’m 100% in agreement with the Prof. You can be both correct and salty. Also, the joke was there to be made. Can’t pass up an opportunity like that.

[@dustinfidge4016]

Lmao! You gotta be witty to get this lol (Or a millennial)

[@thepausebuttonmedia3559]

The new fools one second out of the pack start questioning their sexuality and cease to be straight

[@antoniohenderson6090]

This deck tech as well as the power that Josh showed in Game Nights with a similar deck makes this a pair worth making.

[@mcglubski]

Exactly what I was thinking lol

[@thiefofhyrule8000]

I went with Sakashima for my partner lol. Izzet Rocks, five Toggo on the board, Brudiclad makes the rocks into robots. Toggo is so versatile.

[@777CrimsonChaos]

Some player: “Bounce lands aren’t even that good.” Kodama/Toggo player: “Hold my beer...”

[@VGJustice]

Bounce lands are either the linchpin of a dozen combos or are actively bad. Just depends on the deck.

[@bobfaceasdf9251]

@@VGJustice there is in fact in between: in low- or mid-power playgroups, having (in effect) 2 lands for the price of 1 is pretty high value. It's super slow, but provided your playgroup isn't very competitive, it can be a solid way to gain value

[@m1gr3nA]

@@bobfaceasdf9251 exactly. they increase mana density per land slot at the cost of speed. in other words they make more probable that you will increase mana you can produce from land sources each turn without putting more lands in the deck. they also allow retrigerring etb effects of other lands like bojuka or sanctuary.

[@selkokieli843]

Bounce lands are so wonderful for casual edh decks! The extra land in hand is great of course, especially on the mulligan decision, but there's plenty more. In my Sidisi Brood tyrant dredge deck I use all three available to pick up cycling lands, reset vivid lands, pick up extra lands to loot away, fuel spellshapers and even help me discard a dredger to handsize in a pinch. A Derevi token build if mine untaps bounce lands several times during combat to activate instant token makers and cast humongous x-spells. Also reset a hide-away lands. All that while being some of the most affordable duals.

[@JoeyjojoShabadoo7]

They’re even better with Amulet of Vigor

[@Timby_]

Josh Lee Kwai watching this: 😮

[@timmyg316]

Josh knew...he always knows

[@seekingsomethingshamanic]

josh had to equipt 2 rocks before he pulled out the combo

[@timmyg316]

@@seekingsomethingshamanic he wouldn't do it. Both Jimmy and Josh let the guests win. Jimmy by going kamakaze and Josh by simply not playing his cards to win. To be fair, if they didn't the show would kind of suck. Still I wish they would win more

[@TheJohannes44]

@@timmyg316 Or they just play a bunch of games and select one where a guest wins.

[@conorbergan4843]

He actually talked about the combo on commander reveiw green

[@jaydenyamada2916]

It took me a moment to realize what the combo was, but as he was explaining I audibly went "oh no". Also engagement for the algorithm

[@TheComicBookJoker]

Same. As soon as I saw the stack order, alarm bells went off in my head.

[@Tuturial464]

This is Rocking around the (Christmas) Tree

[@iamLiquidSnake1]

I was thinking more of "Box of Rocks"

[@jamiehomewood7733]

Ladee Danger missed a great opportunity.

[@Soulus101]

@@jamiehomewood7733 It was already done in the previous game knights by JLK, so they weren't going to do it twice.

[@randomperson1997]

I don’t play but The Professor has a really lovely enthusiasm in the couple of videos I’ve seen. Subbed

[@obliviousbookwyrm6907]

Did anybody else think of Josh’s Toggo & Kodama deck from The Command Zone and think “How was THAT the most competitive pairing?!” I couldn’t have been the only one...

[@thenewlollipopjam8248]

"Unlike this stack of magic cards, it's completely flat" The shade, man lol I can't XD

[@emyron1843]

"Kill on Sight Toggo" was all I saw in the notification banner and I can't even begin to explain my confusion

[@shorebot]

My build ramps hard so I can recast the commanders easily when they inevitably get nuked. Lots of payoffs for Toggo + Kodama - Grinding Station or Altar of the Brood (DO NOT USE AGAINST SYR KONRAD) - Fathom Fleet Swordjack - Rampage of the Clans - Ghirapur Aether Grid I also run decoy threats so my opponents use up their interaction: - Phylath - Gruul Omnath - Rampaging Baloths

[@kylegantert4568]

The new Guildless Common land can also be used for the combo.

[@20x20]

I actually yelled "Stop saying 'Shute Swarm'!"

[@seanpkrueger]

Red/green deck tech, just in time for Christmas. Never stop what you do, Professor. Happy holidays.

[@lolomicardoso3744]

Happy holidays professor. Thank you for getting me into magic this year 🙏

[@dashiellpashley4272]

Lol I was looking at Toggo and Kodama in my binder thinking 'huh.. these two are insane together, I should build a deck' then went on EDHREC to see I was not nearly as original as I had hoped.

[@lawfullyblind8403]

I was unaware of that interaction... I run this infinite combo in my toggo kodoma deck i just had gruul turf in there because its cheap

[@komodo26]

Since you have Krark Clan Ironworks to turn those infinite rocks into mana, throw in a Makeshift Munitions as a mana sink and to thematically load the rest of the rocks onto a cannon and fire them at your opponents.

[@kk_33]

Works with Lotus Cobra instead of KCI too

[@EpicMTGMusic]

Reguar people : YOU ROCK! Toggo -> YOU, ROCK!

[@theronabell1126]

I love this series, especially for Commander Legends! Thank you for everything you do for the Magic Community.

[@Im_Mr_Cole]

2020 was great because I found this channel. Looking forward to 2021! Thanks, professor!

[@ProphecyPhrase]

Man, that Commander Legends Game Knights episode could have ended way differently.

[@lambertoalejandrodatu2998]

Right? If the Moraug was on a different side of the field, Josh might've actually won. All the time I was watching, I was like "Why are you not pulling off the most broken combo on that table?"

[@durge12]

in terms of extra tech, heroic intervention and wrap in vigor are nice against boardwipes, asceticism can help too AND provides hexproof to combat against non-destuction targetted removal (wild ricochet is also hilarious here). REB, pyroblast and guttural response can reduce reliance on vexing shusher (veil of summer too i s'pose). biggest tech for me would be to take a leaf out of the only modern deck to care about the bouncelands and find room for an amulet of vigor. that way you can make infinite green/red mana whilst comboing- lol, throw it all into a banefire and oneshot someone in a way that also can't be countered

[@TheComicBookJoker]

Only thing I would add to your defense list is Prowling Serpopard. Extra insurance for counterspell prevention is a good thing.

[@michaelserrahn5606]

Don't forget about adding a Storm Cauldron to ramp you while stalling out your opponents

[@ferretofdoomify]

Why banefire when you can fireball or comet storm?

[@durge12]

@@ferretofdoomify comet storm isnt a bad shout but banefire cant be countered if x is 5 of higher, which you cant say about fireball

[@TheComicBookJoker]

@@ferretofdoomify Banefire says it cannot be countered as part of the card. While Fireball and Comet Storm are great finishers for this situation due to their ability to hit all opponents, they CAN be countered unless you use something like Boseiju, Who Shelters All to add an uncounterable clause to the effects.

[@ZamRosario]

Merry Christmas, Professor, you are truly one of the few in this world I will gladly admit to actively inspiring some glimmer of positivity in my rotted fetid heart. You're a great person, and I hope you have a fantastic 2021! I don't play Commander or anything, I just wanted to say something nice.

[@gutsbadguy50]

Stone seeder hierophant ramps, combos into infinite mana/land untaps, and wins the game if you can restart the combo by equipping all the rocks to itself and shooting.

[@jerrywilliams408]

Just when I thought I was done building Commander decks for this year.....

[@thenewlollipopjam8248]

I felt the same way. Now I have a Kodama I'm my sultai landfall and it kills.

[@iamRageTheWolf]

(raspy voice) you are never done missster williams

[@Danielalocasia]

Love this, I went straight to archidekt to add this to my 'temur tap creature combo deck'. It needed another wincon in case isochron scepter gets exiled. Sliding in the bounce lands and switching a few tap creatures for landfall creatures and kodama of the east tree gives me a second combo win.

[@SeditiousCanary]

There is an good interaction with Elder Pine of Jukai, Glitterfang, and Loam Dweller with any other spirit or arcane spells, of which there are a bunch with great utility.

[@ronaldrogan7546]

I built this deck a few weeks ago and it is a blast to play. Something worth noting is that once people wise up to what the deck does, Avenger of Zendikar, Rampaging Baloths, Nesting Dragon and so many other spells can be alternate wincons if your commanders are killed. The deck doesn't really become very degenerate unless BOTH Toggo and Kodama are out--it can be a bit telegraphed--which is nice IMO. Ppl hate being infinited out of nowhere.

[@piralos1329]

Notably Tireless Tracker performs as a functional backup of Toggo, even down to making artifacts for things like Quicksmith Genius who loots on Artifact ETB to let you draw your deck, or Giraphur Aethergrid, which lets you tap two artifacts to shoot someone or something. All of these are just really good with Toggo/Kodama as well, and function as wonderful value pieces to help you keep going until you're able to just close out the game and go for lethal.

[@jameswilles7814]

Cloudstone curio and storm cauldron also act as replacements for the bounce land, also granting unbounded mana, plus kuldotha forge master or goblin engineer can use rocks to tutor them out.

[@EricTheHuman]

I was able to enjoy this video without watching it 100% because I knew what nearly every card did off name alone. Does this mean I’ve finally arrived as a MTG KZbinr?!

[@ultra2019]

Professor Deck Tech video? It must be Christmas. Great choice for new commanders. With the shell the way it is, I'd say Hellkite Tyrant is the most likely win condition, because you can get there with just passive rock generation. Happy Holidays

[@nicklittle8399]

Gotta love Veil of Summer, Autumn's Veil, Herois Intervention, Red Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, Burnout, and Guttoral Response for the pie breaking counterspells.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Toggo is hilarious, almost a un-card. I enjoy the synergies Toggo has in the 99 of my land matters Korvold deck. Ideally Korvold and Toggo are out: play land get rock, equip rock for 1 to a creature, pay 1 to tap and sacrifice rock to throw rock, draw a card and +1/+1 counter on Korvold, deal 2 damage to any target or Korvold enters play and eats a rock gets a +1/+1 counter and draw a card. :P

[@olly123451]

I like the mental image of Korvold coming in, and then being offered a bunch of delicious rocks.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

@@olly123451 LOL IKR, other times I just feed him lands, spiders or Dragon eggs from Nesting Dragon which he subsequently digests and makes baby dragons #CircleOfLife

[@wolgodi]

Thank you for uploading this today, Christmas Eve is pretty lonely

[@Khord22]

Whats up with the editing, there's a lot of late cuts and weird audio repeats

[@dorianabraham4970]

i think thats just your computer dude

[@Khord22]

@@dorianabraham4970 Nah, late cuts for like single cards being on screen when they should have been removed during the transition

[@Nokus416]

I also saw this. Really not sure at all.

[@vitorroberto8694]

This happens to me too

[@farkulonnthefearsome3934]

I would run any of the Gruul colored counterspells, for example: Guttural Response, Pyroplast, Red Elemental Blast, Avoid Fate maybe, Burnout, Autumn's Veil, and maybe Veil of Summer. Also Heroic Intervention is really good to play on your winning turn to prevent any disruptions.

[@KINGOFANCARCHY17]

Maybe I missed it but I would definitely include Field of the Dead as well, as it is harder to remove than any of the other landfall wincons. I mean it's the scourge but it fits.

[@micahhonig1575]

I was gonna say that this was played on game knights, but then I watched the video and realized that this deck is nothing like that one. Love the variety in commander decks even with the same commanders!

[@colinfowler3021]

Prof, if you're going to make a series called "destroy on sight" I feel like this is a weird choice to discuss for ep.2. Yes Kodama is a really strong card, but why you gotta do my boy, Toggo like this?

[@AhMrJIAssume]

Could see Warp World working well with these commanders to create massive value

[@ferdithetank7535]

Always up for some Warp World!

[@wesacano]

Merry Christmas, Prof! Thanks for an amazing year of content.

[@krvys7226]

Reminder that Cloudstone curio only says Non-Artifact. Meaning you can replace gruul turf/guildless Commons portion of the kodama/toggo combo with any 2 lands if you choose. (One in hand, one on board) this also can make infinite mana.

[@Walter13200]

I just traded for a Toggo and had a Kodama! I don't have the Gruul Turf, but I own a Guildless Commons which returns a land to your hand as well. I also have a Vexing Shusher from double masters! This is great! I think I'll make this deck! Finally get my favorite color combo into a commander deck! This just made my day!

[@mattratcliffe2181]

I built a similar deck. I was about to do the bounce land combo with an Omnath locus of rage in the board. It was beautiful. And then some ass hat played a windfall the turn before my glorious victory. I binned a crucible of worlds and my bounce land, and drew a fistful of lands. But in all seriousness this deck is so much fun.

[@petersteiman2443]

Force of Nature and Shivan Dragon are always solid choices. This isn’t a creature, but Inspiring Statuary, which Josh Lee Kwai used on Game Knights, is a really powerful piece for these partners. Moraug, Fury of Akoum is another great finisher for Gruul landfall and I think fits the bill of kill on sight.

[@princeodd]

Well done video and explanation. Good job! Combo decks like this aren't fun to me, but the video was still enjoyable.

[@jacobc2378]

Don’t forget Guildless Commons, Jungle Basin, and/or Dormant Volcano! They can give you some redundancy for that oh-so-important bounceland trigger.

[@VikingThunderWulfgar]

Prof. I simply want to submit that when I first started building my second commander about 13 years and was fascinated by Rakdos Lord of Riots. I am a Timmy at heart and love big stompy stuff so demon/eldrazi combo sounded great to me. Most Demons have both flying and trample and I coined the demon keyword "Frample" for creatures with flying and trample. It has a certain flourish lol.

[@Sy1vanharp]

I like this series! Can't wait for more competitive focused commander videos

[@Nightingale33]

I'm waiting for the Kodama/Sakashima video, see if my deck is missing anything. Some amazing synergy combos in there: (Abundance + Tatyova/Aesi for every land in your deck), (Kodama + Sakashima as a Kodama is a lovely chain of permanents from your hand.) (Any ETB draws keep the chain going longer and flicker effects let you start up again)

[@vincentmccue7481]

I just made a Toggo/Glacian deck for a friend for Yule and after we played a few games, I need to make a copy for myself. Can't wait for the new dwarf lady in Kaldheim since it also makes lots of treasures and has plenty of dragons. IT ALSO MAKES DALAKOS OP!!! Give everyone a rock and watch them get flying and haste.

[@violetvulpine5356]

Literally put a deck together the other day for them. Yay bounce lands.

[@ferretofdoomify]

Valakut Exploration as another outlet so at end step deal everyone 70+ damage, Field of the dead in case no toggo, Deathtouch creatures like hornet queen and acidic slime so your rocks murder (basilik collar too), Valduk for holding many rocks, Aid from the cowl since your rocks are disposable, Hellkite courser is new and can evade your kodama-to-ggo taxes. Just some honorable mentions from someone who loves this deck

[@timbawden2577]

I think Scute Swarm and Guildless Commons should probably get shout outs here as well. Scute Swarm has the same synergy as Togo, and while you don't always need redundancy from your 99, its a threat by itself. Guildless Commons gives you a second bounce land for your combo as well.

[@MrZetsu1995]

I built this deck like a month ago and then noticed that I already have a deck that counters toggo/kodama perfectly. Also one of profs favorites, zozu the punisher

[@zach3553]

I’m thinking about building Rebbec, Architect of Ascension partnered with Silas Renn, Seeker Adept. Rebbec gives Silas protection and offers GY recursion

[@MR5P1NN3R]

the "What We Owe Each Other" centrally placed

[@dsper7640]

Super cool deck tech!! About 4:15 small editing error. Just pointing out bc I kno sometimes you like to fix this. Love ya prof.

[@TheSpottedBananaFish]

Oh dang...this combo is nasty

[@roxastidus]

Diggin the background music. More of that please

[@7theshuffler729]

If you could make a video of your top Hydra cards and what you think of Hydras and what they are good for that would be awesome!

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

Don't forget Guildless Commons and Ghost Town for redundancy. Amulet of Vigor can also be slotted in to create infinite mana.

[@kk_33]

Ghost Town needs Burgeoning or some other way to start the loop on your opponents turn

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

@@kk_33 That's true, you would need to put any permanent onto the battlefield during your opponent's turn to kick off a loop with Ghost Town

[@Clepto_and_Co]

I can proudly say this is one of the first combinations I thought of. Toggo is my favorite partner commander

[@matttownsend8406]

You can do this with Sakashima as your other partner too, I make him a copy of kodama, this lets you play simic which gives you things like Tatyova for card draw and life, ruin crab to mill you opponents, or Thrasios to draw your whole deck too. You can use the soratami creatures and meloku from kamigawa which all have abilities that let you return lands to your hand as pet of ability activations, so if you have a way to make a single land tap for 2 it means you can do this combo with any land.

[@RabbitOvHell1990]

Tireless Tracker would be sweet in here too for value, Grinding Station as a wincon with the loop and of course all the Atogs in Gruul colours

[@btbwilkinson]

My lgs just got more Jumpstart! I bought a couple of boxes and am excited to try it out.

[@lambertoalejandrodatu2998]

They're in commander legends, not Jumpstart

[@btbwilkinson]

@@lambertoalejandrodatu2998, yes, they are. Did you have a point? I am simply commenting about a product that the Professor swears by that recently got a new print run.

[@TheSpectralFX]

Good ol' Fireball. Infinite mana into target EvErYtHiNg with fiery death. Yup, instant classic.

[@cookieoz2228]

War of the sparks Living twister is a gruul creature that makes all forests into the combo piece for the infinite

[@hopposai787]

This was Josh's deck on gameknights.

[@jakemorse7232]

He didn't even know about this combo though. He even explained the only reason he threw in kodama was to splash green in to a togo deck

[@DarkEinherjar]

@@jakemorse7232 Jimmy and Josh also have a tendency of not running combos on GameKnights very often, especially when they're building around the episode's theme.

[@thelaughingdragon32]

I don't know why but I really like the background music

[@origaminosferatu3357]

Only today did I realise the horror of the cartoon eyes on the satyrs behind Gallia of the Endless Dance. O_O

[@crabmtg9179]

Guildless Commons also does the same thing as gruul turf!

[@sambowen7269]

So I found out about their interaction pretty quick and wanted to construct a combo that allows you to “throw” rocks at opponents for infinite damage. It’s an eleven card combo but I don’t think there’s a more efficient way to actually equip and throw the rocks infinite times in a turn. Here are the cards you need: Toggo Kodama Stone-Seeder Hierophant Magnetic Theft Isochron Scepter Clock of Omens Battered Golem Grinding Station Lotus Cobra Amulet of Vigor Gruul Turf It’s all on the stack and pretty hard to explain, but essentially you are using isochron scepter and magnetic theft to instant speed equip rocks to the stone-seeder. You use the land and lotus cobra mana for the isochron and throw costs, while the seeder provides the body that taps to throw. The order at which all the triggers go on the stack is very important - see if you can figure out how it works :D

[@sambowen7269]

You can cut a bunch of the cards with more colors, but assuming they’re in the command zone this is what we end up with instead

[@ZAKagan]

When I saw this combo I thought it was a meme, but at the same time I was brewing xyris and was feeling intimidated by the price of a 3 color deck. This video shows that there’s a lot of potential in the powerful pyrite pairing. Nice work team

[@alexleblanc6364]

The new colorless bounce land works as a backup for that effect :)

[@krevin543]

Merry Christmas Prof!

[@kk_33]

Already built these two with a "deals damage" theme. So most of my creatures get a bonus from throwing rocks at things. Its my new favorite deck

[@leeacher2k]

If only Josh knew

[@morgancarlton4544]

He did. They go over the bounce-land combo in their set review. They just generally try to avoid infinite combos on Game Knights because a lot of people don't like them.

[@spudster8887]

@@morgancarlton4544 Imagine not liking win conditions.

[@calebmullins2199]

Good job on this one prof, I ENJOY THIS SERIES

[@chuckaw]

If you somehow don't have the kill in hand, you could always use Gonti's Aether Heart and take an extra turn. Also, Horn of Greed will allow you to draw your whole deck and win somehow with that.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Grinding Station. Every rock entering the battlefield = someone is getting milled for three cards

[@Obstinate28]

ALL OF THE YES!!!

[@connorhamilton5707]

Altar of the Brood makes all opponents mill 1 for each rock and land entering (faster milling than Grinding Station in all but 2 player games), and it can't be stopped by Hexproof or Shroud. Also a little bit cheaper. Grinding Station does work as a self-mill engine for finding specific cards though, like the land you need and Life From The Loam to get that land out of the grave.

[@ruthevers8558]

Beautiful tie!

[@aeichhor777]

Hey I really like the site, just started playing a few months ago and my daughter who is 11 has become a huge fan as well. Keep up the great videos.

[@DerrickJolicoeur]

Don't forget about the new Guildless Commons, Living Twister, Nissa, Vital Force, and lastly Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar. (Although, admittedly I can't find a discard outlet that wins you the game, and the few which are free aren't ideal, but they at least get you the infinite landfall with Multani!)

[@mattcurrin493]

Should’ve mentioned the colorless bounce land they just printed in Commander Legends as an option as well

[@Barracius]

I'd add Grinding Station for mill (with properly stacked effects, of course once the rocks start falling) Havoc Jester can help combo wins with Krark-Clan Ironworks

[@marc06969]

I'm loving this series!

[@SonicEdge7]

Wanted to do this combo for rock tribal. Thanks for more ideas!

[@gracefinney6817]

This makes me want to apply this sort of effect on a Dina soul steeper deck

[@DeliciousMorsels]

This is one of the absolute FIRST partner pairs I considered lmao

[@lambertoalejandrodatu2998]

I added Moraug as an additional win con and had guttural response, REB, and Pyroblast

[@noneuklid]

Glad I bought a stack of Kodama as soon as I noticed this combo.

[@VGJustice]

What creature would I add to be a destroy on sight target? How about EVERY creature in the deck? Add both Adventuring Gear and Skyclave Pick-Axe to add a fairly strong Landfall trigger to whatever creature they happen to be equipped to. If that creature has trample, all the better. But turning an Elvish Visionary or a 1/1 insect token into a game ending bomb out of nowhere is sure to turn some heads.

[@crut0280]

This series is so fun u should do it on like a whole bunch of strong decks in general

[@roboblade6046]

Ooh, I really like Destroy on Sight as a name for a series of videos

[@Ragwar]

Small repeat at 4:17. I love your vids prof!!!

[@randommindz6782]

Locus of Rage on the battlefield with those partners would be AWESOME