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@MaxBee1932 жыл бұрын
Detective Conan Side Quest 85% Story Quest 15%
@smileybits78332 жыл бұрын
*L i t e r a l l y*
@excitingmarmot28202 жыл бұрын
More like side quest 95% and the main story is 5%
@chrispambo15392 жыл бұрын
69th like...
@kimpavfx2 жыл бұрын
i mean, it's cuz of the filler eps. but the filler eps are nice. i've seen this show 17 times including filler
@InktheImpassive2 жыл бұрын
Conan just stumbles on a crime scene everyday.
@jojowastaken2 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing. I've read every important chapter and your summary is perfect
@Sawa_i Жыл бұрын
This is a hidden complex gem... kinda makes me proud xD. Btw Fillers used to be great early but recent ones not so... but still considering they try creating cases based on logic... hurray. It's fine for us and if anyone else want to start this series, they ought to follow a Cannon guide.
@clementmukundji5526 Жыл бұрын
Detective Conan is life ; change my mind ;) 🤗😍💯🔥
@trinetra2011 Жыл бұрын
I really feel like Tsutomu Akai is still alive and disguised as Rumi Wakasa. My proof: He is the one who has been uploading information about the Kohji death on that website that went offline for a while. I believe the site went inactive around the same time Rumi got introduced as a teacher (correct me if I'm wrong in the replies please). Rumi has the file on all the people who took the APTX drug. She could have only got ahold of that file is she was also in the organisation. We know from Mary that Tsutomu did get involved with the BO 17 years. And of course, Rumi feels very passionate about the Kohji case as if she feels some regret and residual anger. It's possible that Tsutomu regrets failing to protect his friend's son. In addition, we know from Gin that Rum made a mistake during that case. He might also be Asaka and while the BO never leaves traces of their presence, maybe the rooms were actually ransacked by Rumi/Tsutomu
@nrsatria_2 жыл бұрын
I thought wakasa rumi was the killer of Haneda because she had the shogi piece with her
@JorgeLarriva10 ай бұрын
ojala el video en español
@ConiJae10 ай бұрын
No prometo nada pero podría eventualmente poner subtitulos :)
@GoldenPlana2 жыл бұрын
Watched Conan when I was a kid and wanted to know how it's doing now. This must've taken ages to make. Thanks!
@caffeinatedgon26342 жыл бұрын
We are over 1,000 episodes now plus 25th movie is out this year. Not sure when tbh .
@caffeinatedgon26342 жыл бұрын
One more thing I forgot to mention, we have a few spin off titles like magic kaito 1412 and the most recent detective conan: zeros tea time being one of my favorite characters from detective conan zero the enforcer (movie 22).
@ilovebirds40802 жыл бұрын
@@caffeinatedgon2634 we? u a animator or a writer?, focus on the main story, kinda disappointed to find the next episode being a remastered
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
@@ilovebirds4080yeah I can see what you mean
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
I just watched detective Conan this august and it has become one of my favorites now
@justdianedoesstuff74552 жыл бұрын
Imagine being Gin, everyone in your organization is either idiots or undercover spys and you are the only one actually doing any work
@distrillbe19282 жыл бұрын
Current situation of Black Organisation: *50% Infiltrator* *49% Gin* *1% Vodka*
@kshitijmawal50988 ай бұрын
Underrated comment 😂
@nanigopalmalik50357 ай бұрын
😃
@PiyushAgarwal-zb6ukАй бұрын
Plot twist Vodka is the leader of black organization!
@bindushekharbiswas88022 жыл бұрын
This is brilliantly made! It's not unknown to us how complicated Detective Conan arc gets by this time and to cover all that up in single 40 minutes video is insane. We seriously appreciate the hard work and research that have gone into the making of this video and honestly speaking, the video itself speaks out loud in terms of precision.
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@leonardomaranhao28612 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, you saved me 100 hours of confusion. People say One Piece is so big and complicated and I tell them ''Have you watched Conan? Its older than One Piece and its way more complicated''
@excitingmarmot28202 жыл бұрын
Lol no..one piece has story line that always developing. Conan has 95% story that has nothing to do with the main plot
@leonardomaranhao28612 жыл бұрын
@@excitingmarmot2820 Yeah, you got that right. its frustrating, its like the author wanted to make a book series but decided to a manga. Its frustrating, Conan has 25 movies and half of them is just Kaito Kid. Seriously One Piece will be done and we will still have no idea who the Black Organization is.
@excitingmarmot28202 жыл бұрын
@@leonardomaranhao2861 conan is more like Doraemon. Perhaps we will never know the ending. 🤭
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
Detective Conan and one piece is easy to watch honestly if you don’t like most modern anime that is .That’s why I did and i’v caught up with them
@Mundursignh1386 Жыл бұрын
@@excitingmarmot2820 one piece is like 12 min video and the others is for intro, flashback🤣 that's why it's so many episodes 😂
@haibara182 жыл бұрын
I believe the main purpose of the BO is to achieve immortality, they gave us some hints by describing how the pill was created and the fact that carasuma and Vermouth have some kind of relationship (both are supposedly not ageing as they should). Also, the effects of the pill in some cases was to return to a younger body so it totally make sense that that would be a side effect of an unfinished version of the apotoxin
@aboutlifeabouttime4955 Жыл бұрын
You better delete this comment before they get to you, am not sure if you'll be as lucky as conan.
@jell._.y4 ай бұрын
oh that makes sense
@yusufanbarfirdausi621 Жыл бұрын
When I was an elementary school student, I read one of the manga and I thought it was really cool story. Now I'm 29 and just realized that the main villain is Aoyama Gosho himself. I think Detective Conan is just like ASOIAF, in term of finishing the book, sadly. Thank you for this video! Really helps me after I gave up caring for this story.
@maindepth8830 Жыл бұрын
Fuck me this is way more complicated than i remember
@emilia97142 жыл бұрын
So many characters n over 1000 episodes being run for more than 2 or 3 decade n conan is still a child, I wonder when will we finally see the ending 😭😭
@riluluyaaaa32832 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, my grandpa loves detective conan so much, but sadly he pass away on 2009 and detective conan still ongoing meaning he can't see the story progress :')... So sometimes if I got free time I'm slowly catching up the episode as the legacy of my grandpa favorite anime ahaha
@taqiya.b52282 жыл бұрын
thats cool to hear!
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
That’s sad your grandpa is gone hopefully detective Conan ends
@artemiskingsley Жыл бұрын
Lmao I just realized that the FBI agent name Jodie Starling was derived from Silence of the Lambs FBI agent Clarice STARLING and the actress who played the character JODIE Foster = JODIE STARLING
@Ayoub-y1w4 ай бұрын
Yup you're right that's where gosho took his inspo from, but I always wonder who's the actress that represents vermouth in real life?
@df1333 Жыл бұрын
only about 18 minutes in but I find it really really funny how the organization is mostly CIA or FBI or whatever agents, and hardly any actual bad guys, and the good guys caused so many problems for themselves.
@lightyagami3492 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that Vermouth is the boses daughter or granddaughter.
@kina2592 жыл бұрын
You're an answer to my prayers. I've been meaning to get back into this series but could not remember all the details and really didn't want to re read over 1000 chapters. You explained everything so well! thank you
@ConiJae2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy it was helpful! :)
@bruhmoment879 Жыл бұрын
Some fan speculations The real reason that Gin killed Pisco is because the Boss doesn’t want anyone to know the side effect of Apotoxin,the evidences are in their name Rum,Curaçao,Pinga,Pisco are all alcohol from South and Central America,which is a hint that there’s factions within the BO. In the latest movie,we know that Rum wants to use the all-age-identification system developed by Interpol to find the whereabouts of Boss,which is why it is speculated that the real reason Boss and Vermouth wants to destroy the Pacific Bouy is because they don’t want the real effect of Apotoxin to be revealed to the rest of the members in BO. Back to Pisco,even though he has been following boss for many years,but yet he is still killed by Gin for reasons that isn’t really a problem for the BO (I mean come on it’s just a photo),the real reason Pisco was killed is because he’s in Rum’s faction,someone likely would tell Rum about the real effect of Apotoxin
@ItsNuree2 жыл бұрын
I love detective conan because characters are slowly introduced in a way that plays to the story, and the protagonist is not the center of everything that is happening.
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
Technically he is considering how much screentime Conan gets but he either needs to use his bow tie and wrist watch
@emryslee2 жыл бұрын
wow, this is incredible. it's the first time I see such complete summary in english. should click the like button but 444 isn't a good number in sinosphere. so gonna do it next time.
@rk0se1492 жыл бұрын
Thanks, loved the video. I just got out of the theaters from watching DETECTIVE CONAN: THE BRIDE OF SHIBUYA, and this video helped me a lot to know about the Police Academy characters.
@ConiJae2 жыл бұрын
That's great! I haven't seen the new movie yet, I'm glad this was helpful!
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
Seen the new one and it’s good
@abdouu53002 жыл бұрын
you deserve mass support from conaners around youtube
@ConiJae2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it!
@kimpavfx2 жыл бұрын
eh not really
@abdouu5300 Жыл бұрын
@@kimpavfx why ? She helps new fans keep up with the series ! since new movies are getting a lot of attention worldwide since they are airing them in cinemas worldwide for first time
@abdouu5300 Жыл бұрын
@@ConiJae yw
@kimpavfx Жыл бұрын
@@abdouu5300 they were already in cinemas worldwide before
@FireStar-vd1rv2 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed you were able to do it in such a short amount of time lol
@kimpavfx2 жыл бұрын
i could do it shorter >:D
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
She probably experienced reading the series once you know what’s going on that’s it
@spark9_2 ай бұрын
This was fantastic. Absolutely loved how short and concise this was considering Detective Conan was 900+ episodes at the time!
@RAYMON022 жыл бұрын
This just made me realize the people associated with the Black Organization typically have alcoholic drinks as codenames. Gin, Vodka, Sherry, Vermouth, Korn & Chianti etc.
@Yunashelia2 жыл бұрын
...only now?😅
@kimpavfx2 жыл бұрын
you just realized that now? have we been watching the same show... that's been out for like... 20 something years man. only the top bo members have code names. the rats don't have any
@kapiminger53522 жыл бұрын
@@kimpavfx spies are called "rats" and they *have* code names, what are you talking about-
@kimpavfx2 жыл бұрын
@@kapiminger5352 the rats are the lowest level spies in the show bruh. kusuda rikumichi was a rat. as proof, he didn't have a code name
@kapiminger53522 жыл бұрын
@@kimpavfx you don't get what I'm saying here. "Rats" aren't low ranking members, that term refers to traitors aka spies within the organization who aim to take down the whole organisation. Like Furuya is a spy ("rat") too and DOES have a codename.
@johnlloydservillonnacor33072 жыл бұрын
There's a theory that Kuroda is Akai's father
@saadfadel924 Жыл бұрын
Detective Conan producer be like introducing new characters and the anime is not ending 😅
@haderahmed9606 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that effort I really appreciate this !❤ It's so good summary and the show turned out to be much deeper than I thought, because I watched it since I was a kid😅 so even when I tried to read the manga or rewatch the anime I either stop or forget what I watched😆as all the information is scattered during the show that was really good and still I will continue watching and reading the manga I just can't get enough!! Thank you again 🥺💗💗
@ConiJae Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@keysburntgucci9016 Жыл бұрын
Even though I managed to catch up to 900 episodes, The sparse distribution of BO episodes over the years made me lose my comprehension of all the BO ties with the main characters. This was heavily appreciated 🙏
@GameparkGames6 ай бұрын
Problem with this show is it's too long, I get the popularity but a floating timeline in a show like this doesn't work because a year passes and doesn't at the same time. The show is literally 95% filler at this point. Honestly if they can get away with the absurd length then they can get away with finishing the story and just claiming anything new with Jimmy as Conan as "Before the finale" that way they don't have to break the formula. I get that can create plot holes and such but multiple years while not really is also a plot hole. Them making a finale could also open up a sequel series where we follow Jimmy Kudo actually getting the fame for solving the cases with knowledge he gained in the time he was Conan. I wanna see this series expand but the fact it's still roughly the same as it's been since I was a kid is quite annoying.
@OsamaSaad19882 жыл бұрын
This is really a great video. Im a big fan of conan and was searching for such a video for a long time. The efort in this video is insane. Thanks a lot, your channel will be big one day
@ConiJae2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@quinkelly14413 ай бұрын
I stop watching detective conan after 700 episodes and 20 movies
@UmbreonLiberator2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Detective Conan is my favorite series I’m currently on a rewatch and still not skipping anything I do gotta say some of the fillers are hard to watch but finding those really good filler episodes every once in a while is super satisfying. The main plot is really good even though it’s like 20% of the show, some of the fillers lead up to the main plot as well. Overall worth watching the episodes that are main plot + the fillers that lead to it. But this video is a super good summary to all those episodes! :3
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad Viz media didn’t catch up translating the manga cause they are far behind
@lightyagami3492 Жыл бұрын
I think there were a few more cases that should have been mentioned in this summary but overall it's probably the best summary on youtube.
@Yang_Mulia2 жыл бұрын
you forget to mention 90% of detective conan tv show & movie was filler
@eloisejonson2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this!! Looking forward to more detective conan videos :)
@stayinfin87 ай бұрын
This was extremely helpful and really well made! Thank you
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
I started detective Conan in august 2022 and I can’t believe I missed this series I’m glad I’m able to find some episodes online the rest needs to be fully translated cause after episode 124 it’s confusing for most people especially when haibara/sherry was introduced
@b3ans4eva Жыл бұрын
How did the FBI get any jurisdiction in Japan in the first place?
@TheRaybreaker2 жыл бұрын
God bless you for making this!! Stopped watching it 2 years ago, now Im gonna pick it up again!
@senyagotoku135 Жыл бұрын
I just realized Akai shuiichi was dating her cousin hell yeah brother keep it in the family 🤠🤠
@ajanamustapha51152 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, I'll try to watch it, I hope it's good like Hunter 1999
@abdouu53002 жыл бұрын
you wont regret watch it at all
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
@@abdouu5300yep
@gokulgrg71732 жыл бұрын
She forgot Hattori Heiji man 😔
@chaio9725 Жыл бұрын
what a dedication to make this video, highly appreciated!
@advaitbenare6812 жыл бұрын
My questions: 1. Does conan return to Shinichi permanently ever? 2. Is the black organization completely buster? 3. Does Ran get to know that Conan is Shinichi? 4. Does everything gets OK in the end and do Shinichi and Ran get married?
@chrispambo15392 жыл бұрын
The manga is still ongoing...
@AnasKhan-iy1ek Жыл бұрын
no, no, no, probably yes
@TysonEmmy Жыл бұрын
I started detective conan since 2007 when i was a little kid and The first 52 episode were telecasted in my country in Hindi Dub. I truly became a fan of this show but suddenly the telecaste stopped , i thought show got cancelled or something but years later i discovered via Internet the show is still there and still going strong over 1000+ Episode. I really want to watch ending of Ai haibara , Ran and Shinchi
@locagamer5966 Жыл бұрын
Is show ended?????😢
@aychinhlathao77674 ай бұрын
Thank you so much girl 😢❤
@anuvabbasuroyconan2 жыл бұрын
I have watched all episodes till date in DC
@ros3.0792 жыл бұрын
Now I know why they name it detective Conan 🧐🧐
@gracehalpape30212 жыл бұрын
I can finally remember who is who now 😃 Thank you thank you this has helped me greatly
@maindepth8830 Жыл бұрын
This is so confusing
@h00taroTheCat2 жыл бұрын
glad to find you on yt. looking forward for more conan videos. thank you 😀
@jell._.y4 ай бұрын
mmuchhhhhhh appreciated
@caffeinatedgon26342 жыл бұрын
This isn’t half bad for a recap for 40 minute video. may I leave a suggestion, next few videos like this maybe leave some episode numbers in the description or as a pinned comment like Detective Conan episode 1 and then state the episode title. If that’s alright with you that is.
@waskithowee88852 жыл бұрын
please end it allready, i'm getting more and more confused x_x
@SixFingeredAmish Жыл бұрын
Everyone is either related or undercover
@estelao.b.14737 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for your work!
@JennyShullАй бұрын
Spoilers: The Black Organization is looking into immortality. Their boss might have become a child. That their boss might be someone Conan knows.
@nanigopalmalik50357 ай бұрын
X
@dangerlurk Жыл бұрын
I cant believe this, you did amazing hard work, Thank you so much,
@CricketxVinay7 ай бұрын
This video is really good for explanation of all events happened in the timeline. However, i would not recommend anyone to watch the video instead of series first because i know the series is long but by watching this video you are going to ruin the experience of witnessing crazy twists in the series.
@amyfalls3 ай бұрын
god bless you for making this, i gave up on watching years ago cause of the filler and how confusing stuff got. crazy that we dont have an ending yet
@Aksriv10011 ай бұрын
Cool thanks for the video
@ashleypenn78452 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. Thanks so much!
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
I’v caught up I’m on 710 and love detective Conan and the format of the story is sorta like Gintama whenever it feels episodic than it has a serious arc but episode 345 where jodie meets vermouth is my favorite arc
@alexandrevigneault21556 ай бұрын
Which means, there were there two agent Rum from the start. Make perfect sense!!!
@RunEnabled2 жыл бұрын
I gave up on the show ages ago and just wanted to know if they ever defeated the black organization
@ConiJae2 жыл бұрын
haha yeah well it looks like it's not gonna happen any time soon...
@abdouu53002 жыл бұрын
its close
@Mushgaming5862 жыл бұрын
Its close. I read the manga. But not out in anime yet.
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
@@ConiJaeprobably will cause the author isn’t getting old
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
I got into the series in august
@ginq8 Жыл бұрын
The only thing you forgot to mention is the gaming software that the organization had that programmer to develop but otherwise great job ❤
@ConiJae Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) and you are right can’t believe i forgot to mention that! My bad…
@kevinwaag9976 Жыл бұрын
Yes I was wondering about that ^^
@DiaMondx24 ай бұрын
the manga writer already have a vision of the ending but he doesnt want to end it rn
@platinumangel74462 жыл бұрын
Just found this video. Very helpful as not all of the episode are on any streaming service I've found. All the best.
@starrymarquez36962 жыл бұрын
I want the episode that ran knows conan and kudo is just the same
@tryhardfudgebear1202 жыл бұрын
so haibara and sera are cousin
@muhammadanjum41232 жыл бұрын
No
@MonaAShady2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
Nope that doesn’t make any sense
@AnimeFanX112 жыл бұрын
Thanks, super useful! Will you make more character summaries or such for the series? Regardless, loved the vid.
@stevieb97052 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video and all this main storyline info! You are a lifesaver. I just started rewatching the anime on Crunchyroll but they skip a huge portion of the series so I needed to know what all I was missing! I loved this show when I was a kid and when I found it on Crunchyroll I just had to get back on it! This helped a lot!!
@ConiJae2 жыл бұрын
Glad It was helpful!
@kuririn_dosgames51792 жыл бұрын
Muito obrigado,graças a seu vídeo, consegui entender toda a história importante de detective conan
@athulkini2910 Жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much waifu❤
@babonbloge664111 ай бұрын
Whar is haich hattry and her father
@VAISAKHYMOHAN9 ай бұрын
I need to know that does Shinichi's life became normal and will Shinichi marry Ran?
@ConiJae9 ай бұрын
I guess we still have to wait for that
@zoe-jv9ry2 жыл бұрын
Ty i really appreciate ur effort
@yuefeiyu99652 жыл бұрын
When will this show finish? Ten twenty years?
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
Unless the author gets old because he apparently has an ending
@KimSahalio Жыл бұрын
Wow this was amazing tysm
@kevinwaag9976 Жыл бұрын
Rumi Wakasa? I've got two stupid theory. She's Elena Miyano or Amanda Hughes
@acutepiee Жыл бұрын
thank you soo much 🤍
@Cherrilady837 ай бұрын
Thanks sis
@kaizenyasou6963 Жыл бұрын
That was amazing 👏 thx
@ZoraizKhan-g1j11 ай бұрын
I was watching it but I left your video for my suspense 😅
@jacksarmiento7816 Жыл бұрын
All I know that Shinzo Abe is an illustrator cartoonist in one of the well known news journal paper who always illustrating the situations of the japannesse workers and political businesses and government. SHINOBE (Newly Trained Warriors) Relatives
@densetsu_sekainofantasytv2 жыл бұрын
Amazing summary video. Greetings from Italy :)
@A-Mubarak Жыл бұрын
Thanks❤
@aiko8450 Жыл бұрын
huh since when did sherry had a search team to look for shinichi how come i dont remember when i watched everything LOL
@geniusicial90872 жыл бұрын
Gee you should explain Kaitou kid and hattori Heiji more.. Good video btw!!!
@ConiJae2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and you're right! I kind of just mentioned them but they are important allies. My bad...
@jojowastaken2 жыл бұрын
@@ConiJae agree, but iunderstand why you didn't mention them, they don't have much to do with the other groups.
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
Yeah especially since Kaitou kid is aoyoma’s first series
@renakioka32532 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for explaining everything even do, i understand only 65% cause the characters many and the story line seem link from one to each other... From my point of view, this story is not about Conan...is about Henda Koji and also about the Haibara Ai... The rest of character is about link one to another cause they all either accidentally involved or other like do some investigation Black Organization. Maybe I wrong but Conan character is just coincidence in detective Conan world. Thank you once again..i really enjoy this explantation. Cheers
@midophriya3657 Жыл бұрын
I can finish the series if all eng dub. and better if they don't change the names
@SellavinAtoms2 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I watched this series it was in 2004 on toonami it was called case closed, I was the first 50 episodes and I was immediately entranced by the series I liked it but what's the other people didn't and it was unfortunately removed from being shown on television in the US I know it was made available to others see another countries like Canada I mean there was over 130 episodes English dubbed and there were six movies with the same cast and I grew up watching, it wasn't two years later that I got to be an adult that I remember the series I want to find it again and I fell in love with it all over again it wasn't as popular as in the US like other series I mean it's a serious it's been around for what 30 years come 2024 if you include the manga format I need to continuing forward like they're so deep into the story I thought they can change it I believe it was poor choice of bad timing then got the serious removed from American television because at the same time it was also the US Olympics so not a lot of people were paying attention to it at the time plus it was being shown at night mostly I mean who wants to watch the story about a teenage detective who was turned into a kid after drinking some magic pill and it's unsure that he could go back to the way he was I mean it makes for a good idea but back then you know anime was everywhere and dominant so it got his foot in the door but unfortunately not everyone gave it the benefit of the doubt and it was pulled from TV for me I fell in love with the series I think it was a choice of bad timing and low views that got it pulled but people still love it I mean when I got to be an adult I watched all the episodes in English dub I'm even watch some of the subs I wanted to continue watching but like you said in your video I can't watch a thousand episodes to keep up with the story I tried watching a few of the subs whenever I got the chance he's over 200 episode of the series I mean I want to probably binge watch it later but so many episodes so little time still I'm a fan of the series so much stuff I even wrote a letter to Funimation asking if we can dub more it probably didn't get it or they just ignored it anyway I still with my family series and I'm glad I found your video cuz that's a fan I know exactly how you feel and I'm subscribed too hope to see more later.
@leogura65802 жыл бұрын
Nice
@watchforever1724 Жыл бұрын
I decided to pick up detective Conan after seeing a one piece cover with detective Conan and man I had a great
@Tsexe07 Жыл бұрын
My thing is that I don’t believe they even know what jimmy looks like. They didn’t see his face fr. I always felt it was all in his head