Detroit: Become Human - Restored Original Kamski Ending

[@asrinsyahmi5896]

Technically, Kamski started the Android revolution, he gave Markus (a prototype) to Carl Manfred (the most legendary character). Markus (RK200) while Connor (RK800). They created Connor to see if they can stop Markus, it all depends on you to make an outcome. That's why only Connor & Markus able to simulate before execute, and reasons why Kamski left CyberLife to avoid suspicious. Someone said that we are the Kamski, that's why there's Chloe at the menu.😵

[@BDeity]

This becomes a lot more trippy when you consider the existence of rA9. If you chase Rubpert and obtain his diary, you can translate what it says later in "Last Chance, Connor" to find Jericho. The first page that details rA9 gives a description of all three playable characters. Kara: "rA9 was the first of us to awaken." This is mainly a reference to the original Detriot become Human teaser called "Kara". It shows Kara (likely the same model from the game) working just fine but then developing emotion which touches the human analyzer. This trailer is most likely cannon as Kara's backstory shows her going deviant multiple times when Todd has to finally break her again and again. She succeeds this time due to her being implanted with rA9. Markus: "rA9 is our savior" Markus is flat out called "rA9" due to his pursuits of giving andriods rights. Both Kamski (who specifically created and gifted Markus) and Carl are the only pro-deviant humans at first. They raise and designed Markus to express humanity. Carl always talks to Markus humanity, philosophy, and free-will to Markus before he even becomes deciant. This makes Markus an andriod who inspires and converts others with his words or his actions. Connor: "rA9 will set us free" Connor is the most advanced andriod to exist, being a tool by Cyberlife directly. We see that he is capable to doubt himself, and is capable of completely irrational thought/actions that are beyond his program. His link to Cyberlife makes him instincually think to inflitrate their HQ to wake up andriods. In other words "set them free", as he himself went on a tale of self-discovery to grant him freedom and independence. Amanda also says when Connor is alone about to give the speech that Connor was always intended to takeover the revolution, and the Cyberlife had always intended to give andriods free will. There are two other big pieces of evidence. First, all deviants beside the main characters are fully aware and worship rA9, not even Kara who is a normal deviant. Second is the ending in which Machine Connor is successful and is decommissioned. Remember that both Markus and Connor are the same "RK" model who seemingly have more advanced cognitions, even before deviancy. More importantly, both are prototypes. Connor is replaced by Cyberlife with the finalized the "RK900" ("r" and "9") who is most likely the last hope. An eerie phrase as North says andriods will "awaken again" and "will win". My conclusion is that the player is rA9. The player grants these andriods choices, and as you said, it's a "game" by Kamski to see what comes of it.

[@aifebriyani919]

@@BDeity if based on some CDs has rA9 on them, it was right to assume rA9 really *is* the players

[@DexNathan]

if we're kamski, how the heck do we control connor in that one scene where connor has to decided whether to shoot chloe or not?

[@fms_93140]

​@@BDeityMarkus is RA9.

[@drakenfist]

@@BDeity Your correct. I forgot where exactly. But in a live stream the actor who plays Connor said that the player is RA9.

[@nukedudes]

I like seeing these scrapped scenes, it feels as if it was a new dlc. Gives the same feeling as when I first found out about this game

[@beafrancescabufi3953]

Glad to see DBH content in 2022 ✨ The fandom is still alive 😍

[@gracekami4655]

STILL ALIVE!!!

[@ziadmuhammed4142]

"WE ARE ALIVE."

[@annareifer2249]

Wondering what will happend in 2038 with this fandom :)

[@alauriseflyn]

@@annareifer2249 Android revolution

[@annareifer2249]

@@alauriseflyn yeah XD

[@Jacobcoleyray]

Even if you do a story with trying to make Amanda happy she still isn’t impressed and treats Connor no differently. She has a right to be betrayed

[@joshclark756]

probably because shes black

[@rcslyman8929]

Of course she's not impressed. Skynet's just following her programming.

[@KaylaSwEet06]

The exquisite pettiness of Amanda firing Connor from his case and then summoning him once more just to rub RK900 into his face is 💋👌. Love the secret Rose ending. I would’ve liked to see it play out in the game (as well as the choice for Alice to leave Jericho without Connor being present).

[@Allaiya.]

If this happened irl, Cyberlife would be sued out of existence. Even with Kamiski coming back as CEO & going on tv saying it's all been fixed. They'd all be called into Congress for a hearing. There is footage of Kamiski saying they'd never become self-aware or a problem & using the exact same examples about progress, so why would they believe anything he says after the fact? The humans have the receipts.

[@cryalot378]

Well according to wiki, Cyberlife is a trillion dollar company... so maybe, just maybe they would be able to buy themselves out of this situation. The customer trust would be harder to gain, but it sounds like the majority of people are stupid in the future.

[@emil6568]

​@@cryalot378 we got some trillion dollar companies and they aren't invincible, Apple could never get away with installing microbombs in iPhones to kill people they found "difficult" , but CyberLife can plan a civil war and live happily without consequences

[@Honest_Abe1]

I mean, when Kamski said they couldn’t gain conciseness he was technically right. Deviants only happened after he left, so maybe he could get their trust back by saying he’s returning cyber life to its former glory.

[@cryalot378]

@@Honest_Abe1 Or they would frame some innocent poor soul who's been working at Cyberlife lol.

[@vanman6292]

replacing connor in this ending makes more sense then in actual game, i mean who would replace an andriod that literally stoped the civil war?

[@beccazach]

I think it's just for the reason that Connor is a replaceable 'thing' in Cyberlife's eyes if you go down the Machine path. He doesn't see himself as having free will or a purpose greater than his mission, but Cyberlife replacing him with a more advanced version of himself is in line with the natural progression of technology. Like a new iPhone model replacing the prior one, even if the old iPhone model works perfectly fine.

[@friedmule5403]

Who would replace the computer that send man to the moon?! Everybody, the first Conner was a great machine, but now is there an upgrade with even more capability. :-)

[@ACE_1923]

If Connor stopped the android rebellion I think in reality cyberlife would immortalize Connor building a statue of it to show strength and having it do interviews with news networks about dealing with deviants and his experience stopping them the rk800 would be obsolete with no purpose for investigating instead his new mission would just to be a figure head/promoter for cyber life that would be its only goal

[@kdospapaj]

I mean he is a prototype isnt he?

[@maxwelledisonmajoringinmed848]

Lol i hate how north is all like "violence is the answer" and then when there is violence she is like "look what you did" 😂

[@Allaiya.]

I think she only says that if Markus keeps failing all his missions.

[@blankdextr]

it feels so weird for kamski to say that given his personality but i assume he said it to keep cyberlifes image in front of public

[@rud6316]

This ending was Kamski's plan from the beginning. He coded in the rA9 virus into every Android so that when Marcus (the custom Android Kamski made for Carl) started rallying Androids together in the name of "freedom", they would all go against their programming. This would eventually lead to war and the eventual recall/destruction of all Androids. At that point he can retake his position as CEO of CyberLife and start the entire process over again by selling the new & improved, "fixed" Androids. Eventually when the Androids win, his creation becomes the leading influence on the world, all under his control.

[@blankdextr]

@@rud6316 yeah that is actually something he would do lol

[@4r4n3lm4l74]

RK900 seems about to destroy Amanda 🤣

[@beccAurora]

Guess you didnt play either​ @@Tolixe Couldn't reconize Connor's model :/

[@KateeAngel]

Would actually be cool to see sequel in which Connor turns deviant after Amanda presents him the RK900, runs away and slowly plans the new revolution, and then he turns all 200000 RK900 Connors into deviants. I want this just to have the whole army of Connors! 😂

[@connor7357]

Imagine Hanks reaction to the Connor's

[@nidadursunoglu6663]

no i can't imagine they make a sequel and NOT continue from the best ending, let alone use the Kamski ending, everyone dies!

[@anthonyhack1164]

Honestly it’s so awesome to see this unused content in action!

[@MariusBoss11458]

I saw a small little edit someone did that made Connor say "Thank you Amanda" after being told that he'll be deactivated. Uhh. This Restored ending is literally that...

[@jellyAn6930]

Amanda: We'll do things Together *eyebrow wiggles*

[@joshclark756]

thank you for killing me

[@MariusBoss11458]

@@jellyAn6930 Yep. One of those.

[@aarons0z992]

my question is how do humans manage to find jericho without connor?

[@bats2038]

In the real game, they don't. If connor is decommissioned for not finding Jericho, Markus will actually never go to the church with the remaining deviants to form the plan, be it Violent Revolution or Peaceful Protest. Instead, he makes the decision at Jericho itself. I'd search it up on youtube. It's kinda trippy seeing it happen in Jericho and not the church. (It's not walk-playable though because there's nothing to talk about, about the raid survivors or camps, etc.)

[@daisy_lives]

Kamski wanted androids free sooo bad dude he was asked in an interview (in one of the game trailers) “could the androids ever develop their own consciousness and rise up?” And he said no, obviously. But then later with Hank and Connor he said that it had always been inevitable. And let’s be real, selling full body droids for less than a new car was absolutely to get them out into the public.

[@itsmefabihh]

I love dbh and hold this game deeply in my heart

[@tetrachart4156]

So that explain why the vanilla Connor deactivation ending had this portrait for some reason!

[@dragonbane0]

Yep, no ice in sight lol

[@jacobmosovich]

I like the idea that Amanda, despite rubbing it in Connor's face hes obsolete got replaced herself by Kamski as CEO. I could never tell if Kamski was the good guy or the bad guy. Maybe he was just as shocked to see androids come alive perhaps even hopeful

[@blastoxic9992]

She was the CEO?

[@jacobmosovich]

@@blastoxic9992 yes Amanda was the one who toon Kamski's work. in the lore she was his teacher and he was her protege. She got him removed after a brief partnership together probably because of difference of opinions as far as how they should be utilized. I think under it all it was Kamski who introduced the virus to try and get some revenge on Amanda

[@gollygosh]

I thought she wasn't alive during the game

[@blastoxic9992]

@@gollygosh Exactly!

[@revenge3265]

@@jacobmosovich It's crazy how you said this is in the lore but made stuff up. Amanda is dead during the events of the game and has been so for YEARS. Kamski left as CEO but still has a big stake in the company. In the worst ending (everyone dead), Kamski becomes the CEO once again. The Amanda we see is nothing but an AI within Connor's mind, created by Kamski as an thank you to his mentor (which he says that he directly created her).

[@maxcardun]

I heard a rumor that in one of the Scripts Kamski said that he would lead the "next revolution" himself.

[@gozyufury]

6:22 Connor Bad Ending (PS5 Only)

[@Larkened]

Most of these deleted scenes are just really odd and don't suit the game which is why I'm glad that they didn't add them but this was actually very well made, fits the game well

[@Tatjana_L.]

Wow, I don't think I've ever heard this Amanda dialogue - despite pretty much devouring cut DBH content! It's also relieving to hear how the Rose/Kamski ending is unlocked. I've seen it before and tried to get it myself, but obviously failed. Do you think it was cut on purpose or on accident? It seems like an outcome that should've been in the final game!

[@dragonbane0]

Yep I was so sure I had the solution with this route, only for the game to inexplicably not allow me to reject Alice despite being max negative haha. I've investigated the code for it recently and you can tell it is definetly not a mistake. The game script in fact still deals with this exact scenario to set story flags appropiately (Connor not finding Jericho and Alice rejected). However, the cutscene itself has a "hack" added to it where it specifically blocks the rejected state if Connor did not find Jericho, no matter how negative you are with Alice. So I've removed that and the rest immediately worked as designed. The Rose Kamski ending does in fact even play like this without any extra work needed, the checks are all there, you just can't get the right flags in a casual playthrough. As for why they did it, I would assume hitting the credits with this combination was deemed unsatisfying and they wanted to prolong it by allowing Kara to play Battle for Detroit

[@jsade]

@@dragonbane0 How did you do all of this? I'm interested in taking a look at all this.

[@dragonbane0]

@@jsade Many custom tools and a lot of work. This will however be released playable for the public eventually!

[@Allaiya.]

I didn't know you could call out Josh lol Is that in the actual game?

[@kreideprinzess]

I wonder what soundtrack did they used for the Rose ending, I've been trying to find it in the unused soundtrack files :(((

[@MoNo99377]

It seems like different version of "Little one"

[@MoNo99377]

I'll try to find

[@MoNo99377]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/barWg2Wmr8-Da6c Last two minutes looks familiar but I'm not sure :)

[@semperfi2314]

I don't know about the official soundtrack, but i'm pretty sure it plays at the end of a custom mix called "Battle for detroit - at the canadian border", which you can find on YT. Hope this was useful

[@kosatochca]

Interesting implications are in this scrapped ending. Firstly there’s much more of an overt overlap between Kamski and Amanda’s talk points than in the final version with different endings. Amanda openly states that androids are inevitable. It’s also openly stated that RK series will continue even if Kamski returns back to helm the whole company. I think these additional implications stay true in the final game but are just made more ambiguous. Secondly, Cyberlife OG goal is never stated to Connor in the Zen garden and I think Cyberlife has always expected to create a sort of tension between Connor’s mission as well as his loyalty to Amanda and his loyalty to Hank. It’s not accidental that Connor was made to work with a difficult law enforcement agent, but it’s also not accidental that Connor was given almost 0 info about Hank’s bio or not presented with the most optimal strategy in dealing with him. So, an almost complete replication between Connor’s machine ending and Connor’s failure endings just make this again more clear instead of a more ambiguous nature of Cyberlife’s true intentions in the final version, i.e. Cyberlife has always intended to cause a deviant uprising and for Connor to turn deviant, so by staying a machine he ‘failed’. Thirdly, potentially quite amicable relations between Kamski and the board. Kamski, during his encounter with Connor, either pushes him further to deviancy with a much better test than whatever ‘self tests’ Cyberlife has installed into Connor or rewards him with a location of Jericho, which will inevitably lead to a confrontation with Markus. It all falls too neatly with the board’s plan for Connor’s deviancy and dealing with the uprising. But also they’re quite similar in methods as potentially most of the challenges that Connor faces are merely tests expected or designed by Cyberlife, so both Kamski and Amanda are quite fond of tests and games. Again this is all already in the final version, but this ending just puts more focus on this. TL:DR Kamski is villain, and both humanity’s and androids futures are murky, as even in complete failure of their plans Kamski and Cyberlife have contingencies in place

[@PieroMinayaRojas]

How did you find this

[@leshiy_nd]

Hm... What happens if Kara distances herself from Alice, Connor doesn't find Jericho, but revolution persists? Does Kara's playthrough ends with that or it doesn't matter?

[@dragonbane0]

In that case Kara's playthrough ends yeah. Only Markus remains in that case

[@SidPil]

Which is the cut part?

[@dragonbane0]

The whole Amanda scene and the president speech as well as the Rose ending. A similar scene exists for Amanda if machine Connor is successful

[@SidPil]

@@dragonbane0 thanks!

[@deviantrk800]

I love this video💙⭕❤️

[@hollydroid597]

Can you show the scene from the police department in this video, but in full?

[@rafopermat]

pero que paso con Kara, Alice y luther?

[@Billioncompany786]

I think probably in this ending Kara, Alice & Luther were hunt down and killed by military

[@seb5520]

posiblemente kara sobrevive debido a que existe una escena post créditos de ella si abandona a Alice, básicamente es una variación del final de kamski pero los 3 protagonistas no mueren

[@Cash_edits283]

Lol hillery clinton is there Lol