Detroit Lions Success Means Matthew Stafford's FAILURE

[@richbudd23]

I mean, I was happy and rooting for Verlander when he left and won.

[@ShoePrint]

Verlander didn't ask to leave. The organization gave him a choice to go somewhere he would have a chance at win a WS.

[@jerryalexander8803]

@@ShoePrint that's literally the same thing with Stafford..

[@ShoePrint]

@@jerryalexander8803 It's literally not. Stafford asked to leave.

[@jerryalexander8803]

@@ShoePrint Stafford asked to leave after his 5th head coach and 5th rebuild..

[@jonellison2835]

This is when y’all emotions take over your logic. Stafford was a huge reason why they won a Super Bowl. That’s a fact. If the lions win, our quarterback will be also a huge reason why we win. That’s just a fact. Stop being dumb and delusional because you’re in your feelings.

[@ShoePrint]

​@tremat3685Stafford is not a HOF QB, 0 all pros, 0 MVPs, 0 Super Bowl MVPs, nah

[@markwalden6682]

English d.u.m.m.y

[@markwalden6682]

​@tremat3685English d.um.m.y

[@perezjr112]

​@tremat3685 Stafford didn't help that team. The Many All Star players The Rams had Won and Aaron Donald because The 49ers should have won at the end of Nfc Championship

[@Thisone4dafam]

​@tremat3685so having one of best defenses and two great wr one being the greatest wr of all time isn't enough talent ??? ...

[@anthonycaruso2248]

Stafford going to the Rams created the Brady effect from when Tom Brady signed with the Bucs and then all these other great players signed on after for a chance at a SB that was going to be played in their home stadium. Neither Tom Brady or Matt Stafford were dominant in their SB runs, but the supporting cast that came along with them made the difference. When Stafford went to the Rams all those great players came because of what they saw when Brady went to TB. It even had the same scenario of home-field advantage with the SB scheduled to be at SoFi. It is absolutely true that it was not Stafford that won them the SB, it was the hype and the clout from the trade that attracted great talent to jump on board to recreate what happened in TB. Those great players would have never came without the clout and the hype that came with the Stafford trade. Same as with TB after the win talent left after they got their trophy and both QBs had a similar 2nd season. The only difference is that Stafford was younger and will play longer in LA than Brady in TB, but all of the other circumstances surrounding both QBs were exactly the same with the same outcome. It wasn't just the QBs but great players deciding to go to the TB & Rams to build a super team like what LeBron did in Miami.

[@simontorres9095]

I’ve always said he wasn’t the only reason they won the Super Bowl. They made so many trades and got so many top players to get them over the hump.

[@Truthtella]

Why are so mad and yelling if you don't care? Things I don't care about I don't get worked up.

[@kennethsanders6096]

It’s entertainment bro

[@Truthtella]

@@kennethsanders6096 So you are saying it's fake outrage. So we can't take anything they say seriously right sense it's just entertainment

[@richmuller4036]

Matthew had plenty of capable teams surrounded by talent on both sides and couldn't get it done.

[@silent1759]

Exactly. Ppl act like he had Patricia his whole career. 2012-2015 those teams were good enough to win at least 1 playoff gm, but Stafford simply wasn't enough when the team needed him to be.

[@nicksnyder1723]

bUt ThE rEfS - them probably

[@RugbyTony]

Stafford had the teams but not the coaches or CULTURE we have now. Thank you Stafford!

[@johammond2020]

"capable" doesn't equate to a winning TEAM and CULTURE not to even mention defense specifically! I'd like to see ANYBODY lead those teams to the promise land .. I promise you that task was directly next to IMPOSSIBLE!

[@FdaRefs]

@@johammond2020 F Stafford is the bottom line and it wouldn't of been possible without Matt Stafford leaving the fuck outta here!~

[@Joeybullets]

I’m still conflicted if I was a lions fan first, or a Stafford fan. Matthew was the main character for the lions for years. You can’t root for a guy that long and not love him. The ups and downs, he was a big part of the lions. These guys seem overly upset, about something they say they aren’t upset about.

[@Jayratliff87]

Because we got the exact team out of it is what we got from him going to the Rams and winning the Super Bowl. We have what we have here now thank you, Stafford.

[@ManuelCorrea-jr3ds]

Goff turned it around with the help of mcvay..

[@lamargettens2370]

I’m never gonna forget all them comeback wins

[@twizobuckley]

The leftover Stafford fans that are still here can't be trusted 😂I don't trust people who are Lions fans that still root for Stafford...What did he do for the Lions with WINNING? He never won a playoff game,he never led the league in passing yards,he never got a divisional title here in 12 seasons he was here...But the Praising and Glazing y'all do for Stafford is WILD! We are DETROIT LIONS fans not Matthew Stafford Lions fans!

[@Tonytill08]

Stafford fan till I die I don’t give 2 fucks about you don’t trust lions fans that still fucks with Stafford 🤣☠️ who the fuck are you???

[@bighoss45hgaming91]

😂

[@creativekids007]

All big D crew hitting all cylinders 😎 let's go

[@stewartallan1440]

The volume! Neil, Chris Simms, and Nick Wright are competing to make their points.

[@Mjiw-hn2zm]

Why did I Celebrate ? Because he’s my favorite Lion OAT, and I spent years telling casuals Stafford was elite and a lock too 10 qb in the league

[@michaelgarrett556]

I can't listen anymore. These guys are such haters and homers. Give stafford his flowers. Have some class. Geesh.

[@creativekids007]

Best show after a long time 🦁👍👍

[@bradparker649]

I view matthew stafford as the same way I view serie fedoroff. Neither one we'll have their numbers retired. They both left. Great players but..

[@freedomthefreeman487]

Not a huge Neal fan but couldn’t agree more with him on Stafford. He asked to leave and then penned a letter to the city like WTF! What a weird move in my eyes. Maybe a tweet would’ve been okay but a long letter to try and save his legacy in Detroit when he didn’t do shit but stack stats late in games is weak. And I was a huge Stafford supporter and invested heavily in his rookie cards and autographed memorabilia throughout the years. Good riddance.

[@jerryalexander8803]

Grant Hill literally did the same thing and he is still loved in Detroit, matter of fact the Grant Hill pistons jersey is still one of the best selling Pistons jerseys

[@freedomthefreeman487]

@@jerryalexander8803 please don’t compare Grant Hill and his injuries to Matt Stafford and how important FOOTBALL is to the city of Detroit and how important a QB is to football. The most important position in all of sports. And you’re talking the “greatest” Lions QB of all time quitting on the Lions/fans after knowing the Lions history.(Barry & Calvin). This isn’t my opinion. It’s facts. Was just a grimy move to pen a letter like he accomplished something in Detroit instead of actually staying and accomplishing something. Personally I don’t mind how it turned out but at the time many did care.

[@jerryalexander8803]

@@freedomthefreeman487 it’s literally your opinion 😂.. yall really need to understand the difference between fact and opinion.. And grant hill penned a full page in the article, THAT IS A FACT.. and Matt Stafford left after 12 YEARS and 4 COACHES, he spent more time as a lion than Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders, THOSE ARE FACTS, and if Stafford felt like he didn’t want to be a part of yet another rebuild then he had every right to request a trade IMO.. peace ✌🏾

[@freedomthefreeman487]

@@jerryalexander8803 what I stated were FACTS. You’re a bum that can’t stand when arguments don’t go your way. Good bye.

[@darrellmitchell4338]

This topic needs to end now it’s pointless…. Let’s go take care of our business…..

[@Mjiw-hn2zm]

What was the point of saying did u get a ring in the mail when the rams won ik I’m a lions fan and never got a superbowl yet, but I’m pretty sure we not getting rings either way bud

[@creativekids007]

If We tribute Stafford we are going to lose this one 😡🤬

[@lamargettens2370]

Bad take lmao

[@313SmoothJ]

12 years headache

[@ManuelCorrea-jr3ds]

That's hilarious 😆🤭

[@montaewhite]

*sigh* 3:09 It's part of the storyline because the emotional yelling from you all says it is lol No Stafford fan in Detroit is bringing him up now, this network is the one thats been saying "f them kids" lol

[@ManuelCorrea-jr3ds]

Your coaches and staff sucked when he was there

[@tenminainvesting1544]

People who blame Stafford for the Lions failures during his tenure here are void of reasoning and understanding. The reason the Lions are better is NOT just because of Goff!!! It’s becasue we finally have a front office who knows how to build and manage a team. Something we NEVER had when Stafford was here!!! Dude The takes on this episode are maddening omg

[@animoetprudentia2865]

I don't exactly disagree, but the hot emotions do give off a spurned lover vibe. ;⁠-⁠) Like bro, she gone. Your new girl is way cooler. Let it go! 😁

[@jamesritch9308]

Tell him not to speak gruffly

[@takeovaLA]

You don’t have a point at all because why would you care what other people say or think I could careless if fans love or hate a former player and on top of that I can’t stop them from talking about them so it’s pointless you obviously just get in your feelings for some reason

[@lamargettens2370]

I love stafford but he’s not my QB no more but stafford never had the front office like Goff either

[@313SmoothJ]

Jared Goff‼️ Jared Goff‼️ Jared Goff‼️

[@nigelward7261]

The Rams had Ramsy before 2021 😅

[@Honestly__now]

He meant a healthy Kupp. Goff never had Kupp

[@nigelward7261]

@@Honestly__now I’m a Rams fan and I like Goff! He couldn’t get us over the hill in LA but I wish yall nothing but the best for the season (apart from week 1) lol

[@noahtee8616]

Yall need to slow down, Stafford has acomplished more now iN LA than detroit trash franchise. Show some love that he blessed yall sorry ass city by playing there😂😂

[@CATCH22-313]

Spoken like a Dic Rider. Get off the nuts of my city.

[@codynevers51]

Nope

[@woosa42]

Stafford almost cost the rams from making the playoffs and actually winning the playoffs. Good thing they had Aaron Donald.

[@woosa42]

@tremat3685 - Ok, you win.

[@silent1759]

@tremat3685 was he? Then why haven't they done a thing since?

[@rayplaysgames_RPG]

You guys sound like a bunch of jealous ex girl friends. It's OK to be happy for the guy.

[@R3VIVETV]

Love Neil!

[@richbudd23]

Barry and Calvin just up and quit.

[@johnbarfield4858]

The same way Aaron Donald up and quit? It's a matter of perspective. Any player has the right to retire.

[@derekhill2716]

Stafford quit also. He wanted out and they gave him what he wanted

[@riggedreality420]

I believe the Rams would won the Super Bowl with Jared Goff as well.