I think that a lot of this hesitation from fans is because we didn’t really see much progression or payoffs from any of the risks Troy Weaver took as GM. It’s hard to have faith that a player like Holland will develop as a shooter based on this team’s recent history. I think Trajan already seems to have a better plan in place to develop players than the team had under Troy. The most talented players in the draft are usually going to be very young and need development in some areas.
@victorakwaowo79982 ай бұрын
All I know is that the rest of the moves that Langdon makes has to be with shooting in mind
@Pistons_Intellect2 ай бұрын
100%
@eddielacrosse22 ай бұрын
I like him. His highlights are all dunks, steals, some blocks, and transitions. If he can be even a mid jump shooter you got a good pick there. We need shooting from now on though. I suspect one or two of our young core is about to get traded
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
Hopefully Duren but I suspect Ivey will be the one to go.
@vikings-pistons2 ай бұрын
I like it. We're not good enough to being worrying too much about fit. We can move guys, they still have value. Holland has legit upside if his shot can start falling (73% from the line is pretty good) and in the meantime he can just be a chaos-creator off the bench. Also just want to throw in, Jalen Duren 3pt shot incoming. Bro shot 79% last year from the line.
@scottwickett12732 ай бұрын
He's also the shittiest defensive center alive.
@vikings-pistons2 ай бұрын
@@scottwickett1273 lol you're not entirely wrong. maybe he can improve there but overall I agree. He has to improve on defense or it's not going to work long term
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
I don't see Duren developing a three but he could be our KAT if he does.
@scottwickett12732 ай бұрын
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 No, he's not going to turn into an historically high volume 3PT shooter, c'mon. They both don't guard at all, so they do have that in common, anyway.
@JMatthewJohnson2 ай бұрын
Let’s hope he can see the same growth as Jalen Brown. A close comp imo.
@Truthtella2 ай бұрын
Not my first pick but could be a young more athletic Kawhi Leonard/Jayden Brown or could be Josh Jackson. Can they find the coach and put him in the right environment to develop his immense talent? That's the question. I will say one thing him and Ausar are going to exciting to watch in SL.
@user-bj2ug1cy9m2 ай бұрын
Jack would you mind jumping on the Pistons discord to discuss Klintman some time. I assume you watched him a lot and have a strong opinion.
@mirisarawak19312 ай бұрын
no shooting
@matthunt91972 ай бұрын
Jalen “Dur-in”🔥🔥🔥
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
Think we can get much by trading him?
@MisterJiggles2 ай бұрын
I want to see Sasser/Ausar/Holland/Stew Bench lineups. I swear if that lineup isn't +50 against other teams benches, I'll be surprised.
@scottwickett12732 ай бұрын
It would need a point guard, unless you think Ausar can do that. And Stew should still be starting, unless they hire someone better.
@MisterJiggles2 ай бұрын
@@scottwickett1273 I think Ausar can run the point duties. He didn't have much opportunity last year to be on ball which is going to happen with Ivey and Cade starting. Stew has to play off the bench. We don't have a big if Wiseman is getting cut. I think we will get a SF/PF through trade.
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
Great defense zero spacing. But probably a sacrifice which we will have to make unless Duren is traded.
@scottwickett12732 ай бұрын
@@MisterJiggles Stew should start over Duren, because he's wayyyyyyy better.
@YaFathersUncle..2 ай бұрын
So we drafted ausar again
@bastard3422 ай бұрын
Nope you casual
@12stnumbers952 ай бұрын
Hollands is a scorer remember those not someone that sits in the corner and wait on the ball Ausar can’t score at all outside of transition so for someone who knows nothing about basketball
@scottwickett12732 ай бұрын
@@12stnumbers95 You don't know anything about basketball either if that is your opinion of Ausar.
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
@@12stnumbers95ausar is a scorer, but is even worse at shooting threes. They are a bad fit but can split all the SF minutes if Duren is replaced by a stretch center.
@revmichael42 ай бұрын
drafting a defensive wing with questionable shooting is langdon's MO
@bastard3422 ай бұрын
Cry
@scottwickett12732 ай бұрын
@@bastard342 Wut? It's not like he said this is a bad thing.
@bastard3422 ай бұрын
@@scottwickett1273 ron holland is a much better herb jones
@Iamthebigcheeze2 ай бұрын
I am a huge Ausar stand and I believe that his development is so crucial and I am a bigger believer in him than Holland-but I am worried Holland will complicate things or at worse be like Josh Jackson. I want to be hopeful, but I believe Ausar has this amazing upside and I want that to be unlocked with shooters. holland… not sure. He is more raw to me. If we get Borrego as HC, I am not even sure Holland plays more than 8-10 minutes a game.
@Iamthebigcheeze2 ай бұрын
I just want Ausar and Holland have clear distinct identities and roles on this team. Not compete with each other because I don’t buy into “extreme pressure makes diamonds”.
@bastard3422 ай бұрын
Get off twitter kid
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
8-10 is plenty. If we trade Duren they can take all the SF minutes and never clog the paint for each other.
@locked_on_fits69752 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@brendantousignaut48532 ай бұрын
he’s like lebron lite
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
LBJ is a great passer but Ron isn't.
@kylejohnson63272 ай бұрын
I didn’t think we’d go from worst record in the league to drafting someone I’ve never heard of
@Iamthebigcheeze2 ай бұрын
Ron holland was a pretty big name
@dbrown47522 ай бұрын
If you have never heard of him you need to study more. Pure stat filler. The shot will fall. Trust our shooting coach
@IAmAbundunt2 ай бұрын
Wait, you never heard of Ron Holland?? Casul fans never heard of anyone
@mittendemon44932 ай бұрын
Nigga have never heard of a top 3 highschool propsect and a guy who was said to be a too 3 pick For majority of the season. Like literally 2 months bro was still getting projected top 2
@mitchwilks81952 ай бұрын
Unfortunately that’s on you, Ron Holland is as popular as it gets for this class
@Mrgiftedsoul2 ай бұрын
I think Stuart is out and we seek a shooting wing and let holland develop behind him
@scottwickett12732 ай бұрын
Why would he be "out"? He's the second-best player on the team.
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
Stew is a three point shooter. Good luck finding a similar talent for under 20/year
@kwyatt2612 ай бұрын
Another 14 win season regardless of head coach. 2 guys out of 15 who can remotely shoot the ball. This isnt the 1980s
@eddielacrosse22 ай бұрын
I’d say Cade, Sasser, Stew, and Tech can all shot the 3 but to your point none of them are elite
@scottwickett12732 ай бұрын
The team was always going to be bad again for at least one season because of Weaver being the very worst GM who ever lived.
@kwyatt2612 ай бұрын
@@eddielacrosse2 Sasser and Fontecchio are the only 2 shooters. Stewart's "shooting" doesn't space the floor somehow when I watch him play.
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
@@kwyatt261maybe it's because teams are guarding Stew and sagging off guys who can't shoot. Unless you think Cade wasn't willing to pass to him when he wasn't being guarded.
@pheralanpathfinder48972 ай бұрын
Ivey will be close to 36% from three next season.
@12stnumbers952 ай бұрын
He said mature like Cade- Extremely high turnover rate Injured every year Fatigued at the end of games Ok