Deus Ex to Dishonored with Harvey Smith

[@NoclipDocs]

Happy New Year folks! Hope you enjoyed the break in December and had time to relax with family and/or play some games. We've a ton of videos coming this month including the remaining backlog of our Noclip Sessions we recorded last year, extended interviews from the Horizon doc, and a bunch of behind-the-scenes and studio-building stuff for our Patrons over on patreon.com/noclip. Thanks for your support in 2017, we have big plans for 2018 and can't wait to share them with you soon.

[@zasdf420]

@Noclip Can you also make an interview with Patrice Desilets former Creative Director of Assassin Creed

[@Claverleykid1]

Dishonored 2 and Prey are games that haven't got nearly enough praise. Both games doing incredible things within the immersive sim genre

[@yunix2396]

Yeah, and it really sucks that they don't get love. Prey is the best sci-fi Immersive Sim to date. Have yet to try out System Shock, but my opinion won't change that much.

[@trblemayker5157]

It's true. Sadly the gaming public only cares about online competitive modes and movie games where there's barely any gameplay.

[@lucascarracedo7421]

Praise doesn't have to do with amount but quality. These games get a ton of love and praise. They are just not that popular. And that's ok. Popular isn't the same as successful.

[@lucascarracedo7421]

@Haleakala Ekewaka yeah. In most cases I'd rather studios I like stay independent. But for now they are doing well. I'm sure even though they don't sell a lot, parent companies get a lot of prestige from everything Arkane does so it works for everyone. And, as you stated, they don't have to worry much about sales, just keep doing what they do best.

[@lucascarracedo7421]

@Haleakala Ekewaka I agree that they will get bigger maybe. But they get plenty recognition. They may not be popular, but the people who actually talk about them praise them mostly. It's not that they don't get recognition. They get it just from the people that matter. If the price of becoming popular is becoming mainstream I'd rather them stay where they are. It's not like they aren't doing well anyway.

[@Tumoxa89]

Prey was fantastic, really made me apreciate Arkane, excited for their next game.

[@mooferoo]

Yay for Harvey/Dishonored content!

[@RyuRanXII]

Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, Bioshock 2, Dishonored, Dishonored 2, Prey... gotta love Arkhane Studios!

[@artymovich1183]

All fantastic games. Shame we never got another Dark Messiah or Arx game

[@OrangeDog20]

They didn't make Bioshock 2...

[@grantrencourt]

Excellent interview Danny. Harvey Smith is a very interesting guy. I still think the original Deus Ex is one of the best games ever made. It was so far ahead of its time and ended up becoming hugely influential on future game development as well.

[@jameson32]

That's terror.

[@brainless14]

"Some insane hour... like 7" I guess me being to work at 5:30 is beyond insanity...

[@ujustgotdunkedon4523]

Shmerkaberl that sounds hard I struggle for school in the morning

[@apictureoffunction]

You're not considering that she's also a woman who probably spends 2-3 hours getting ready though. She may have been up as early as 3 or 4

[@Nihilful]

I'd love to see an interview with Amy Hennig. She created the Legacy of Kain games and, in my opinion, set the golden standard for storytelling and script writing in games.

[@ThatGuyWierd]

Both dishonoured were fantastic, amazing levels with jindosh and the time travel. Plus the little shortcuts you can do to finish the level without being spotted in 5 mins. Not much bad to say about the dishonoured series

[@HueyTheDoctor]

Fantastic interview. This man has helped to shape some of the most impactful gaming experience of my life. So glad you gave him a platform to reminisce.

[@evanradcliffe4613]

Harvey's a genius.

[@robnickerson7819]

Evan Radcliffe Sucks hes an SJW

[@zetetick395]

There's a great interesting 2 hour interview on KZbin with Harvey Smith being asked questions by Warren Spector (for a uni course IIRC) EDIT: I found it :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqDRXqKNl8-kaac

[@jon-umber]

Amazing talk. Sad that Colantonio left Arkane, but I'm excited to play whatever Harvey does in the future. He's got such a great mind for game design and creating something interesting. I could listen to him talk about his games for hours.

[@8transformers]

WHAT????.....Colantonio LEFT??!!!

[@jon-umber]

Yes, after Prey released -- bethesda.net/en/article/5WUTxSzVbUmm0KGmwwuGUK/a-message-from-raphael-colantonio

[@atabeq]

he was fired by bethesda because of Prey's sales

[@jon-umber]

Джон Джоныч Gonna need a source for that or I'm calling bullshit

[@Tarhiel]

Not a bullshit - stepping down is a mild saying of "company forced me to leave." Or do you think all those CEOs in history who were "stepping down" did that on their own account? www.wsj.com/articles/did-the-ceo-actually-get-fired-theres-a-decoder-for-that-1502645422?mod=e2fb

[@valthe1st890]

I'd like to see Harvey Smith and Ken Levine talk 4 hours about games and world building or anything.

[@vipset87]

so did kens studio until it ended up screwing them and currently have them stuck in a rut. theres probably immemse pressure to be brilliant and fresh. he has scrapped and restarted versions of the current game kens working on

[@zyker2156]

Harvey just keep doing what your doing. Dishonored 1 and 2 are some of my favorite games. Arkane are simply an amazing studio, Dishonored 1, 2 and Prey I've played through I think 6-8 times each. I'm not done yet either. Plus you easily have credit (to me at least) as the best level designers and gameplay concept designers. Your motto, "multiple paths" it's just something I love. When it comes to solving a problem in an Arkane game, that's the first thing I think of and I... Love... it.

[@SyncrisisVideos]

I just finished playing through Death of the Outsider for the first time. I've played through all of the other Dishonored games at least twice, Dishonored 2 I've played through 4 times. I always find something new each playthrough, and I am enraptured with the world that was created. I really enjoy how the games deal with player height, creating nearly three maps of vertical space within the same existing map. I don't know if Harvey Smith is reading any of this, but the Dishonored series has brought me hundreds of hours of entertainment and kept me wanting more over the past 8 or 9 years. Can't wait to play anything else that comes from this guy, and I wish more game studios would show the passion and attention to detail that oozes from every square inch of the Dishonored maps.

[@EricMalette]

Harvey: "Prey is one of the best games I've ever played." Goddamn right.

[@jon-umber]

Was really disappointed with Dishonored 2 at launch simply because it ran so poorly, but since they've patched the game up I've really come to love it. Dishonored 1 and 2 are such amazing games for stealth fans, and the fact that you can play them as all-out action games as well is a pretty impressive accomplishment.

[@Ciber2k]

Same, at first I couldn't play Dishonored 2. But when I could, I was literally blown away by its level design, The Clockwork Mansion is simply amazing.

[@jon-umber]

@Ciber Agreed, it has possibly the best level design I've ever played in a game. It starts a bit slowly in my opinion with the Karnaca docks, but the Clockwork Mansion is undoubtedly and incredible achievement, as is A Crack In The Slab. Absolutely incredible, mind-bending stuff. Dishonored 2 had its issues technically, but from a level design perspective I really believe it will be looked at as one of the best games ever made.

[@christopherkinard1602]

@ Gian Lorenzo Bernini @Ciber Love when people complain about game performance when it is rather obvious they are running it on substandard hardware. The game ran perfectly. Stop playing on a toaster.

[@Ciber2k]

We are also saying it's one of the best games we ever played.

[@robnickerson7819]

Ciber The problem with D2 is that level design is all it has going for it the rest was a letdown

[@ShellComics]

Yes! Excellent start to the year :D

[@joelmilten]

This is so interesting. I love how Colantonio (and later Smith's) focus with Arkane Studios was basically a distillation of everything they found amazing about immersive sims.

[@zombiefriend]

Currently playing Prey, and as a huge SS2 fan, I am loving it. I love this studio.

[@surrog]

Visiting Arkane and Amplitude Studios would be a nice excuse to go eat some awesome food in France... just saying ;-)

[@ethanstapley7018]

Only recently completed Dishonoured, very enjoyable

[@doktordrosel4052]

I'm very happy that you got Harvey for an episode.

[@rid71k]

Danny you need do an interview with warren spector

[@kasra8255]

Yes, he does.

[@MakoSDV]

Big fan of both Deus Ex and Dishonored 1 & 2. Thanks for sharing the behind the scenes insights.

[@noshow]

Sad you been sitting on this so long, but great interview. Prey is one of the best games I've ever played too.

[@clawhammr666]

I have a suggestion for a video, love these noclip sessions, this might be too pricey but what about having videos like the Hollywood reporter does around oscar time and have like creative directors talk about building worlds in games or game directors or something, would be interesting to see different takes on the subjects and I guess show people more of people responsible for a big game, they maybe didn't know about (like this one), guess would be best to have it around GDC or maybe game awards.

[@vonbleak101]

I love the Deus Ex games, i kinda grew up with the first one even the recent ones have been awesome. Plus i love everything Arkane has done - I even think that apart from lots of loading screens, Invisible War was pretty good... :)

[@nicolosi83]

Deus ex is just awesome I still play it from time to time and its been 20 years ... the simplicity of the game and the layout of it is just awesome ... its so basic yet great, the weapons the way the game flows the hud display etc ..... I wish there would be a reboot of that with more missions too longer game play just my 2 cents :)

[@scattysafari7742]

I often wondered if Jessamine's death in Dishonored reflected Harvey's own experience of watching his own mother die from a drug overdose when he was 6. It's interesting to see that there's a connection. I think the heart of the game is stronger for having a big familial loss in it. It makes me more invested than the cold clinical killing in a game like Hitman.

[@salazarmageddon]

YES! Thank you. Much respect to Mr. Smith!

[@timothyhurley5920]

I've never played Dishonoured but this interview really makes me want to! Should I start with 1 or jump to 2?

[@340Hz]

Start with 1 - both for price point and the story.

[@timothyhurley5920]

Thanks for the reply. Will have to get to Prey too! There's a whole treasure trove of Bethesda published games to get to that are priced really nicely!

[@timothyhurley5920]

Cool thanks. All 3 are on sale for 30 in the EU PS store right now. I'm just gonna track down the first though cause I have enough to play right now!

[@salazarmageddon]

I agree with the others, start with 1. Its story DLC is absolutely worth it too, don't miss out on that!

[@raresmacovei8382]

Start with 1. Love it. Play the 2 story DLC. Love them. Play Dushonored 2. Adore it. Play Death of the Outsider. Love it.

[@rickcolan2116]

Nice talk,Dishonored is one of the best games i ever played,we need a dishonored doc

[@majesstic8]

Harvey mentioned Thief 3... when are we gonna get the Ion Storm/Looking Glass noclip doc? :D Thief 3 in many ways turned out to be sort of an inversion of what happened with The Witcher series: two universally beloved games followed up by a widely panned cult favorite sequel. I know the story behind the scenes was a lot different, of course. But the CDPR interviews on Witcher 1 were a really great look at the ups and downs of creating a flawed but respected game. Would love to see interviews with people like Randy Smith, Jordan Thomas, Terri Brosius...

[@littlecurrybread]

The designer I relate to the most, design-wise. Thanks!

[@TotalElipse]

Great interview, and god damn that credits music is good!

[@mbaraliuc]

Agreed ;) Found it here us.audionetwork.com/browse/m/track/premonitions_135302

[@Mindseas]

Such a heartfelt and an honest feeling to this interview. Love it. Thank you!

[@ehafh]

omg, fireteam. i remember buying that as a kid! have kind of thought about it from time to time never being able to remember what the name was. awesome! i bet that box complete is quite rare now.

[@make.one.studio]

Another awesome video Danny and team. Prey was probably my favorite video game last year!

[@MartinOckovsky]

Thank you very much for this, Harvey is amazing. Too bad that it's just 20 minutes and not 20 hours.

[@alfredpirgi2532]

Prey is my goty

[@BackfallGenius]

Same. I played Breath of the Wild, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Super Mario Odyssey, PUBG, Nier: Automata, and all the other top contenders. I loved all of them a lot. If I had to pick just one though, it'd be Prey. Such a powerful mix of tension, horror, freeform playstyle, environmental storytelling, exploration, and an intriguing plot.

[@najib9093]

DH2 IMO but I still need to play Prey as a diehard Arkane Studios fan. Not convinced by no stealth tho

[@TheMightyPipe]

This was great. Can't wait for the extended CD Project Red interviews.

[@thatstuart]

Yet again, another amazing session

[@Wladislav]

Thank you and happy birthday Mr O'Dwyer.

[@schizogony]

The tried-and-true ratio of old/familiar with new/surprising is 85% to 15%; skew any further toward new and you bewilder, skew any further toward old and you bore.

[@OisCreg]

Fascinating insight into the production of a game

[@smartbluecat]

Thanks for this. Awesome as always. :)

[@HighwayMule]

The coffee shop war in DX:IW was one of the most panned aspects of the game when it comes to narrative.

[@rosscopicoltrane3749]

Great games I’m so glad I invested the time to play. Prey is so underrated

[@vrapbrap]

Makes me sad that games like the original deus ex don't really come out anymore. I don't need the fanciest graphics or anything like that. I want a complete game that isn't afraid to talk about stuff. The issue with the newer deus ex games was that they were about a bunch of things yet at the same time they weren't about anything as the games were too afraid to commit to any subject and explore it.

[@tomsiara2]

Try "Prey" from 2017, you will love it.

[@camycamera]

Well, there are lots of games coming out these days that do tackle uneasy subjects, you're just going to get them more in the indie market these days.

[@UNOriginalDraw]

Deus ex nowadays is more about the sim and gameplay part, but minus on the whole conspiracy things with America and the Illuminati. Talk about that nowaday gonna get you into trouble though, and we have enough controversy already.

[@Tchucuspico]

Even though I agree with you about the newer Deus EX stories been shallow I still think they are AMAZING games. Gameplay, art and graphics are great in both.

[@Sean12248]

Prey is an amazing game and story

[@nr1771]

Harvey Smith is a brilliant designer!

[@b1zzler]

invisible war was so under-rated... I think it holds up better than the original in a lot of ways

[@madness1931]

I actually liked Deus Ex 2, it doesn't deserve some of the flak it get's. The issue with it is that it was designed for consoles first, unlike the original, and PC players felt betrayed.

[@GamingEthos]

YESSSSSSSSS

[@CodiMorphett]

Nice KRK Classic 8" studio monitor in the back

[@TheGreatJon]

Great tunes on the outro.

[@jorcktheoutcast8007]

i loved dishonored!! havent bought dishonored 2 yet cant wait to play it. also i know im in the minority here but i loved Thief 3 Deadly Shadows

[@TheGreatBlackBird]

I like those silent transitions.

[@Plutonia001]

There better be one of these when Ultima Underworld 3 comes out.

[@nr1771]

What is the city shown at the beginning?

[@doubleh4820]

Happy birthday !

[@gaurd3]

"Insane hour like 7am" lol

[@eliasarcetoner6098]

Thank you! We need one on Prey hehe

[@NoclipDocs]

Our next Session features Ricardo Bare & Raphael Colantonio and is all about Prey. It'll be live early next week!

[@GuitarNerd79]

Awesome!!!

[@Jagerbomber]

Never gonna happen, but I kind of want to see an interview with someone from Black Box.

[@jtktomb8598]

Are you planning on contacting tripwire interactive :) ?

[@m.i4728]

Listening to Harvey talking about Raphael makes me sad because he left arkane :(

[@Necr0e1]

holy hell! i loved fireteam!

[@SmorgasLord]

I love this!

[@dashballantyne612]

Absolutely loved Deus Ex, it was my first introduction to conspiracies and it started me on a path of questioning almost everything that we were taught at school and the media Now so far down the path and learning about the main large families oil tycoons and corporations that completely run the world. I now know they had a hand in setting up ww1 and ww2 ( new corbett report doco proves this "ww1 conspiracy") Rockerfellas, rothschilds, bilderburgs, trilateral commission and the like just to name a few. the game was insane in that they spoke so much truth....im surprised these guys were aloud to release this and are still alive today.. Brilliant!!

[@nomercy8989]

Can you do Raphael Colantonio as well?

[@Taladrane]

seems like a smart dude.

[@glorytotheaprdeathtotheufl7917]

Do one with David Pittman!

[@HeisenBird]

Is that Chris Roberts at 0:51?

[@kingofkilps]

JESUS CHRIST DENTON. THIS WAS AWERSOME.

[@vuyv787]

I used to have a Really good morning

[@gerdoner1860]

Uh, this will be interesting :)

[@cpitts385]

I like how in the same breath he talks about hey great the world would be if Russia and U.S. would cooperate and then talks about how bad it is that they’re “cooperating”

[@kasra8255]

*_mY vIsIoN hAs bEen aUgmEntEd_*

[@cybust6420]

This guy looks like Vador with no helmet on.

[@x0xNateRiverx0x]

Great guy with a great mind. He strikes to me as a very American person (rare species today); for some reason (maybe his looks, the way he talks and thinks freely; idk?). He looks very tired though :x Arcane always has this good philosophy of gameplay and polished level design. Its a shame they don't get the attention they deserve.

[@robnickerson7819]

Harvest Myth

[@IF040020]

Deus Ex.

[@C.Alexander_]

Thnks for DISHONORED a be cool first, not a second part.) night i DEUSEX...Ah-h), GDS))

[@jordanhilton1815]

An insane hr is 7? Hahahaha never pour concrete then

[@vydeogames]

Rising tide of nationalism without explaining what he thinks nationalism is or the problems that come with it. I think it's missed potential for further discussion of what he could view to be inspiration for games he worked on. I wouldn't be surprised by the default answer those in silicon valley give, as it's usually bay area bourgeois moralizing without even rationalizing the reasons WHY nationalism is on the rise, and whether or not it's a bad thing.

[@anbr4833]

Voting for Trump just to show "the people still have the power" is a very petty thing to do. Just because you think people on the left are annoying doesn't make it ok to put someone clearly not fit for the job as president. Not meaning to attack you in any way but even if you vote republican there are several people who are more mature and have more experience in politics.

[@camycamera]

He just said that as an off-the-side comment. And considering the definition of nationalism, yes, that is a bad thing. What the world needs I think is for countries to work together more to solve issues, from climate change, to preventing war - that's why things like the UN exists - rather than going "we're better than everyone else, go fuck yourselves". But then we have a moron in the most influential country in the world going against all of that, a moron who built his political campaign off of fear mongering and prejudice, using slogans like "Make America Great Again" (Fuck off, America has always been great)... That is a massive problem. The fact that someone like him is even in office in the first place, also doesn't help, and has made people really lose faith in the system (and unfortunately this has also led to people being extremely rude towards his supporters, which widens this gap and is also arguably the reason he got voted into office in the first place), while on the other side you have people sticking to the guy no matter what facepalm-inducing thing he says or does next.

[@ArtwithBen]

ioz Do not look to these people for serious debate. Games media is a left wing mob.

[@popopopopo159]

and you are a virginal slob, and a blight on modern history. "winning."

[@ArtwithBen]

reginald allouchery Compare the argument you just made to the one you are refuting.

[@bluemoon539]

From insanely talented level design and mediocricy , to insane level design and mediocricy... Oh how the industry's changed!

[@larsvontrier5191]

Great docu, as always. Deus Ex, like Dishonored, System Shock, BIoshock or Half Life probably is the most overrated and overhyped game ever. Even the modern ones. Last one was free on PS+. Couldn't get through more than a few minutes. Everything looks and feels so awful.

[@gst9325]

"power fantasy" :) do you think people play your games to experience power fantasy ? for me dishonored was about solving environmental puzzle... and please explain what is the difference between nationalism and patriotism. because usa was always ultra patriotic yet its somehow problem when other people start to be nationalistic...

[@TimTeboner]

A very simple breakdown: Patriotism is being proud of your country because of what it does. Nationalism is being proud of your country no matter what it does.

[@fourdee4d]

When you bounce a ball of effort, behind the dog that requires effort from their human. Legend. In other news: Sheep flow. Trump 2020. Nice peak.

[@nomercy8989]

Giving the protagonist a voice in Dishonored 2 was a mistake in my opinion.

[@raresmacovei8382]

Hearing Garret again? Are you kidding? It was a master stroke.

[@Kvickification]

I always prefer a silent protagonist.

[@robnickerson7819]

Rares Macovei Not really the script was beyond bland and there was barely any voice outside of the load screen type cutscenes lets be real here

[@derekisazombie39]

This sounds so sad compared to the doom team...He sounds weak.

[@MrWizzleTeets]

Harvey Smith listens to too much Elliott Smith.

[@tubejay1]

With regard to a changed America, and dark undertones. I think you're over-reacting a bit. America has always been against illegal immigration. It was only during the Obama years that liberals decided they were all for it. It's an issue that's usually 70% plus where people are against illegal immigration, and even the dreamers it's 60% plus. I don't know of a country in the world that likes to just admit random people to their country. There are FAR more, so called progressive countries out there with far more restrictive immigration policies than ours. Those countries are trying to retain their culture. Trump is a reaction to the left deciding that they were more interested in protecting the interests of people who should not be here, who broke our laws and set up shop in our neighborhoods. He won because people are fed up with illegal immigration, and scared of the Democrats shift to lawlessness. I mean, Hillary Clinton in 2006 was STAUNCHLY opposed to illegal immigration. She was full throated against it. So America didn't change, liberal politicians did.

[@ShindlerReal]

Kind of hilarious that Deus Ex was about fighting globalist conspiracy, which is in essence what Trump does, but Harvey forgot about it?

[@nerothos]

HE1NZ Is that what you think Trump is doing? Lol.

[@ShindlerReal]

Of course. Bob Page is literally Soros.

[@parkerleach2367]

please stop. if you're trolling it's not working. if you're being serious, this is neither the right time nor the right dude's videos to be talking that shit on. take it elsewhere good sir.

[@ShindlerReal]

I don't see what's the problem? Why is it not the right time and not the "right dude's" video? Is this leftist youtube section or something? But anyway. I'm not trolling. How dense can you be to not notice obvious parallels between Deus Ex and what's going on in US and Europe for the last 10 years?

[@robnickerson7819]

Nerothos Hell yeah

[@sinistermephisto65]

Stupid political analysis

[@thenucas]

settle down, snowflake.

[@JsnVrhs46]

Duuuh this isn't PUBG, DISLIKED - the average gamer nowadays, sadly.