Developer Jobs and Salaries are Riding High ... Going into 2024!

[@johnstephens2412]

The video is good Uncle, thanks. I'm starting on software engineering. I was so discouraged by random KZbinrs but now I feel motivated.

[@TetaroSeth]

Good news Stef. I remember your videos were a help for me in staying calm.

[@itmentorstva]

One of the best IT related videos in 2023! Thank you for this!

[@miguelfernandes6533]

This is the advice to listen to. The problem is KZbin is full of kids who worked 2 or 3 years at a FAANG and then quit to become KZbinrs. No matter of how good they may have been 2-3 years is very little experience… this is very visible in the kind of videos they produce saying programming is dead… no more jobs for developers, etc

[@StefanMischook]

Yep.

[@gregorriusadolphus2729]

I agree. They are pretty insufferable LOL. I'll take old skool experience and wisdom any day of the week

[@tear728]

Good lord it's so annoying to see

[@RememberingGames]

Amen!

[@johno8760]

Idk what you're seeing but I've seen a lot of youtubers saying the opposite. I'm not trying to start an argument here cause I'm sure it's probably the algorithm at play. I just feel like there should be a lot of careful consideration in a lot of these videos, thankfully what I've seen is mostly "2023 is a bad year, but things are looking better" "ai will not be replacing programmers, but taking advantage of it will be the best move for new programmers" and all of that

[@Matt-m3y-r4u]

A trend I’ve noticed for a while now: so called “junior” roles, where they expect you to know the equivalent of a SENIOR programmer (and sometimes require years of experience on top of that), yet the pay is really low. Employers are doing that because they know very well for 1 opening there are hundreds of qualified applicants.

[@IffyEdem]

That’s why I am joining the military and trying to get European citizenship.

[@daveqr]

Stef also mentioned that employers are having trouble finding qualified people. Well, that's because they're *ridiculously* picky. Doesn't matter if you have 20 years experience and have used a dozen languages professionally, if you don't have 2 years of PHP on your resume, they don't even want to talk to you. It's no wonder so many people (not me) lie on their resumes.

[@1122slickliverpool]

Until developers find a better or entirely new way to build software. The web is going to be King for a very long time.

[@FilterChain]

there are already better technologies we havent adopted yet

[@berenice6124]

Loved your last message! Thanks for the advice. I am working on moving more after work and eating better.

[@wylelias]

Feeling so lucky that tech/coding are passions and interests on top of the job prospect and salary. Very grateful to be alive at this time on Earth. Thanks for the video Stef!

[@YeetYeetYe]

For real! I love tech and coding. Lucky it pays a lot, but even if it didn't I would still do it.

[@richards16]

That's great dude! I also feel like that, we are truly blessed.

[@TheSoulCrisis]

Heck yeah get 'er done bois! :D I've loved tech forever and agree so much.

[@Jaydunnnn]

Same dude, im entering college and wanting to do something coding/tech related. Something about building projects in code gives me more fulfillment than anything else I’ve done in school.

[@cesarlabastida1392]

Yes this is the mindset my friend instead of doing it for just the salary. I am too in love with coding and would do it even for a lower salary.

[@dantialila]

Thank you so much Uncle Stef. Your guidance, level mind and wealth of experience inspires me and so many others of your subscribers. The dedication and zeal you have to provide consistent YT content is a blessing❤

[@Toulkun]

IT for juniors wont be saved at least not in couple or more years, oversaturation is crazy and competencies are very tough.

[@jesusruiz5311]

I am currently enrolled in a UCI bootcamp and 4 months away from graduating. This definitely motivates me.

[@davebudah]

I'm not from the US but everything you teach is very relatable. Thank you very much.

[@StefanMischook]

Thanks! 😃

[@chrislucy1589]

I am a subscriber to your Bootcamp currently, saying Hello and thank you from Alpharetta Georgia

[@StefanMischook]

Hi! 🖖

[@ambrosebeavers]

I give you props on this one Mr Steff. You did mention this. One up!

[@StefanMischook]

I do what I can.

[@_HealthWealthandRelations]

Thanks alot uncle stef. Initially I was scared but with your comment and guidance I am bold now. Thanks alot once more.

[@mauricearida9001]

Uncle Steph you killed it with that camera positions

[@zlosin]

13:35 actually it does, few years ago developers were pushed to become devops, thankfully it goes kind of away

[@ChrisR-yp8mi]

Last point resonated with me. I’m a systems analyst aka maintainer/implementer of the system. I want to move up to the next level but I need to learn to program to become a builder. Thanks

[@StefanMischook]

Welcome!

[@brightokoro7073]

You are always on point sir, you predicted it right

[@clydejr4533]

Loved your informative excerpt at the end about getting your body & mind in shape in order to achieve success in tech 🙏🏾 ❤

[@StefanMischook]

Glad it was helpful!

[@astroimagers]

Thank you for another spot on video I especially appreciate your comment about health... so true. Side note regarding jobs I've been noticing a lot of fake job postings. Scams. Ads. Honeypots. Wondering if you or anyone else finding the same.

[@DefCantGame]

Having been in cyber security, thats a common thing to happen get basic info from you and sell it to email lists and such been pretty steady, possibly an increase since covid times

[@chromechef891]

Got my first jr full stack web dev job this year. Sadly a whopping 35k a year. Its all good though. Ride it for the experience.

[@StefanMischook]

We all have to pay our dues ... consider it paid training! Congratulations!

[@azizbelkharmoudi2564]

Bro, How did the job interview go? I'm eager to hear about your experience

[@chromechef891]

@@StefanMischook Very true words. Thank you.

[@nohrianscum9791]

That's what my first salary in front end dev was.

[@ci6516]

This makes me happy as I tell my class mates I’m Preparing for a hypothetical machine learning full stack development

[@boot-strapper]

no shot there is more demand. I havent been able to find a job for months, I used to be able to snag one in less than a week

[@santoshraj1203]

Great video! thanks for the insight.

[@StefanMischook]

Glad it was helpful!

[@EmperorAlles]

You are the uncle we need uncle stef.

[@StefanMischook]

Thanks! Glad I could help!

[@SnobbyLion]

Thanks pop 😊

[@StefanMischook]

Welcome!!

[@R5123]

Hey Uncle Stef, nice video! In my world, I've seen there is a shortage of DevOps roles / skills. So, personally I've been trying to add some of those to my mainly "developer" skills. Your comment at the end of builders and implementers made sense, though. Devops is more about auto scaling, getting things deployed, etc, but not actually creating the app or functionalities

[@meha7819]

My guy really said "I am switching cameras angles to make it interesting"

[@HotHeadCringe]

A great video!

[@StefanMischook]

Thanks!

[@AIRRAZOR44]

The Fed interest rate is expected to increase into 2024. Hiring freezes & layoffs will continue until they start cutting rates

[@Ciro_el_persa]

Stay healthy

[@louis02023]

Drawing from the experiences of numerous tech professionals, including myself, it appears there are scarcely any opportunities available. Frankly, the software industry in the U.S. seems to be at a standstill.

[@Neolisk]

Everyone's reporting difficulty in finding talent AND difficulty paying them market rates. Who knew...

[@calmhorizons]

More productivity => More complexity => More demand => More innovation => More productivity | and round and round it goes. With manual tools you can build a shed, with power tools you can build a house, with construction vehicles you can build an apartment block. When humans get better tools they don't just settle for living in a shed.

[@Turnpost2552]

Pretty much we all need to lvl up

[@luckerooni1153]

Precisely, people are naive if they think we can't easily just push to the next limit which requires the same amount of people as the last limit but now they have new tools and skills

[@TheSoulCrisis]

I love your emphasis on maintaining balance in life and adhering to the pillars of health! It is so key to fuel our bodies with the right foods over time, get proper rest at the end of a productive day, lead an active and healthy lifestyle while fighting off stress in healthy ways.

[@stonedcodingtom9097]

What about shrinking space for junior devs? I mean, for what are juniors if mid/senior with AI can do work like 3 juniors in the same time? If not now, sure in the future. What do you think about it?

[@tear728]

It's not a thing

[@dmitrykizyakov9950]

@@tear728 what's not a thing? look at number of postings for junior roles and number of applicants for each of them in the first 48 hrs

[@mub03]

Awesome video, your channel is amazing, i watched some videos and i loved it!

[@StefanMischook]

Thank you so much!

[@mub03]

@@StefanMischook Thank you for the video, continue doing amazing videos, sucess!

[@haliszekeriyaozkok4851]

17 years of experience? That's really insane. That employers gone really crazy. And %95 of them never be able to find a developer as experienced as that.

[@StefanMischook]

No, 17 year high in job demand.

[@Matt-m3y-r4u]

They can go wild with requirements for jobs because there are so many applicants! You see “Junior” openings where they want 2/3 years experience and expect candidates to be proficient with a dozen technologies, it’s insane.

[@d_andreev]

Boy, do I get interested when the camera changes.

[@StefanMischook]

😂

[@StefanMischook]

Job done!

[@Carterofmars]

Web dev still the top huh? Thanks encouraging.

[@waveril5167]

Sorry but a guy that SELLS Bootcamps etc. Will not tell you that its harder and harder to get a job, if so, how would he sell his stuff

[@StefanMischook]

Just presenting data.

[@henrik3098]

thanks for calming my fragile student nerves

[@StefanMischook]

Any time! :) Nah, you have nerves of steel!!

[@blakehawley1540]

im guessing this video was filmed in Montréal

[@StefanMischook]

Yes.

[@jakeleone8944]

So the reality is at a time when 250,000 STEM workers were laid off, the industry requested 400,000 H-1b visas. Most of those H-1b visas (75%) were for IT related positions. And most were for fresher (right out of college) applicants. So where did all the starting jobs go, they went to people coming in an H-1b visa. I will give the reasons for this in a follow-up. But keep in mind, in past recessions the number of H-1b requests fell, but looking closely, they fell more in the 2001 recession, and far less in the 2008 recession. And in this tech recession they greatly exceeded supply.

[@jakeleone8944]

The reason why H-1b requests have increased isn't because of skills, it is because H-1b workers are stuck at their job, waiting for Green Card. The government fosters a form of discrimination against local STEM workers, that starts by giving industry a 15% discount to hire a foreign student for 27 months, over a local student worker. During that time period, the student (often fully graduated, but taking some classes to comply with the OPT visa), applies for an H-1b visa. Once on the H-1b visa, the student is shielded from local competition (DOJ vs Facebook 2020 & DOJ vs Apple 2023) while trying to get a Green Card, via fraudulent methods (and it works until they are audited, which rarely happens). The foreign worker, even with skills that admitted by Facebook to be completely redundant in the U.S. marketplace, succeeds because Facebook and Apple have been shown to completely disregard the applications of better qualified local applicants, applying to the same or similar job. This is all documented at the USDOJ website.

[@jakeleone8944]

Now we have to realize, you can lie all you want to the press and public, but you can't lie to DOJ investigators, and it is in DOJ vs Facebook that we learn the truth. Foreign tech workers are being shielded from better qualified local competition, because foreign workers exist in an indentured state. A state preferred by their managers, often from the same country. Managers that actively discriminate against local applicants, because they have the 13th amendment right to leave their job at any time. A foreign worker who does this, loses their Green Card application, or their H-1b visa and have to return to abject poverty.

[@jakeleone8944]

You guys need to get vocal about this discrimination, or it will never change. Big immigration legal lobbying groups opposed changes that would have made it easier for foreign workers to get Green Card and employers assisted them in this. Allocatoing H-1b visas, based upon salary was therefore nixed by the Biden administration, because it hurts the bottom line of immigration legal groups, which need that huge Green Card and H-1b backlog as part of their yearly repeat business.

[@jakeleone8944]

What we need is a national apprenticeship. This would end the discrimination caused the foreign student OPT worker discount. It would extend the discount to all students and the unemployed. Putting local workers on the same footing as foreign students for tech jobs. Companies are perfectly willing to sponsor 400,000 H-1b visas, for freshers right out of college but from another country. Every tech job requires some training, but the only jobs that get publicly advertised are the ones that pay beginning salaries for Senior skills. Come on, it's a big scam. Foreign managers at these companies build up their fiefdoms (a term actully used by a Facebook employee) with people from their home country. That is the reason for the huge H-1b demand, it has grown over the years only because foreign workers (stuck at their job) became managers at these companies and institutionalized the discrimination documented publicly in DOJ vs Facebook 2020 and in DOJ vs Apple 2023.

[@HunterNeesh]

Totally agree regarding being a "creator" vs an "implementer". I once had a high paying and promising career in networking and security, but realised I was becoming just another advanced "monkey" that pushes buttons to make things work - exactly how you put it. After a little while out I'm finally looking to get back into the workplace, and I've chosen the Front End Web Dev path as it's the perfect combination of technical and creativness that I need.

[@StefanMischook]

Nice! It’s cool when you discover these fundamental realities!

[@josepedroconceicao2380]

Thank you Steph. Your advice is always appreciated. Wisdom. I keep having AI anxiety despite having a good job and actual AI skills and now backend skills. It sucked because these influencers caused me to skip on months of studying but I’m back now stronger than ever. Maybe I also needed a break from just learning to code, focused on reading other books that made me understand better my lizard brain! Thanks for the content keep it up!

[@StefanMischook]

Yes, good idea to diversify. Check out my Lizard Wizard course, it will open your mind: school.studioweb.com/store/course/lizard_wizard

[@kaimazibuko3537]

"Do you wanna be a muffin? That's not cool" 😂

[@nourslimane571]

U have my respect uncle stef, u r not a click bait junk

[@dimitarnikolov7563]

Wish you were my uncle man 😂.. Thanks for the amazing informative video like always uncle steph ❤️💪

[@ZettaiKatsu2013]

If companies were really hiring (graduate juniors), i would not have lost months (even years) sitting on a body-shop bench. Truth is only experienced people are wanted

[@ZettaiKatsu2013]

at least in Europe

[@dvdragon]

You have watch out for squirrels in Canada? In the USA we worry about Canadian Geese in parks. They are not as nice as human Canadians.😂

[@StefanMischook]

😄

[@CEBS13]

What about cloud engineers? Are we going to be replaced?

[@StefanMischook]

Not anytime soon. It will change over time.

[@bjni]

Hey, i got an interesting perspective for you, people on youtube complaining about there are no jobs for devs are thinking about all the cushy 200k+ salaries in silicon valley, sure tons of people got fired from FAANG and there is an overflow of talent in those markets, but thats just one specific market for programmers.. here in Tokyo according to indeed there are over 5000 open positions for python programmers and over 20000 open positions for Ruby on rails programmers. there is A LOT OF industry using automation in Japan that needs programmers. one of the big reasons is programming was never glamorized like it was in the united states, the rich programmer silicon valley type image DOESNT EXIST here, its just another job. the salaries are pretty low but even without experience you can get a job here. so its not a decrease in programming jobs or tech jobs, its just a specific niche of programming jobs in a specific location that is having those issues.

[@raynoldj]

I'm a public school teacher learning programming (self-taught) so that I can use the skills to build educational web apps for my students. But if there are people or companies that need my service in the future, that's a bonus. Quitting my job as a teacher to become a full time web developer in my country is just not worth it. The average junior and mid web developers here are paid less than a public school teacher. There are local web developers who are paid high salary, but usually they are working for big foreign companies.

[@StefanMischook]

That’s interesting. In North America it is the opposite. I come from a big family of teachers (including my father) so I am biased when I say teachers should be paid more. After all, they are developing the minds on the next generation.

[@ci6516]

Sure but that’s only one factor . A baseball coach can have a greater impact on young boys than a good English teacher students see for 6 months .

[@stevo728822]

Data quality will be increasingly important with AI. A more important task for AI or ML will be to combine industry knowledge. Such as combining programming knowledge with accountancy knowledge.

[@StefanMischook]

So I hear from people in Ai … it’s all about the data samples.

[@learnwithyan]

Think you know the truth❤

[@lucaa.9709]

Stefan, did you read what kind of talent they are looking for ? (The IT department) its not web development, its barely related to programming or development at all. mostly it is support and customer related. and the salaries adjusted for inflation is DOWN.

[@StefanMischook]

Where?

[@mayankpatni5639]

As a fresher what to choose full stack developer vs data scientist vs data analyst vs ai engineer vs ml engineer more job opening

[@StefanMischook]

Learn the fundamentals first, then make a decision with learned nerd-eyes.

[@teodortodorov4042]

From all of that what about Mobile Development?

[@StefanMischook]

Mobile is cool. Web, native mobile, Ai are my top 3 picks. But there are many jobs in other areas.

[@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel]

I don't work in your area, but with 'increase demand' why do companies rather get rid of high competent people and just train them up? especially with new emergent knowledge/ tech? similar to how I guess a d doctor needs to keep up to date.

[@stanf5488]

three years ago you were 169 years old, and this year you are also 169 years old. how is it possible?

[@StefanMischook]

Aging stops at 169.

[@Seekingtruth-mx3ur]

So flipping burgers is safe from A.I. for now?

[@StefanMischook]

Only for about 2 weeks.

[@mauricearida9001]

Uncle Steph I am a no college full-stack mainly MERN stack dev with 4 years of experience, I am so motivated to keep this career going (learning new stuff, building own startup). SO I took your first so much valued advice that is to get your code up and working asap (less refactor and optimization), and I started coding my deliveroo, now I have a question, I wanna get into the smart code (python related), and I cannot afford to do that without making the money out of it, i am aiming a good remote job in the western world (I am Lebanese), I am all ears, tell me what to learn

[@StefanMischook]

Restate your question … 🤔

[@mauricearida9001]

@@StefanMischook in lebanon the salaries for developers are (1200$ - 2500$) even if you are so good, write very clean code.... I wanna learn a new (special) technology that would higher my rate into getting accepted at some western company, and since I love code so much and love design patterns and architecture, I decided I want to learn something related to the smart code, (python related), so my question is what the most in demand python framework of technology (preferably AI)

[@saadhabashneh5587]

Can you make a video explaining what blockchain development is all about? Please

[@StefanMischook]

I haven't looked into it, but you can! Just google the "blockchain development overview" ... something like that.

[@muhammadbaki1124]

I put "Leveraging AI" as a skill on my resume.

[@richard-schneider]

How can I get a job from outside the US?

[@StefanMischook]

Reach out to US based companies.

[@richard-schneider]

@@StefanMischook what would be the best way to start? I am a React developer with 20 years of PHP/Mysql experience. Sometimes I think I am too old for IT.

[@shanermahmud1086]

This makes so much sense! Thanks for sharing your 169 year old wisdom.

[@StefanMischook]

Glad it was helpful!

[@alexzandermanning6094]

Hey Uncle Stef! Did you take your video about clearing brain fog post virus down? I can’t find it anymore. I really need it. Thanks

[@StefanMischook]

It is on my other channel. Let me know if you can't find it.

[@alexzandermanning6094]

@@StefanMischook ah! I was looking on this channel . Thanks !

[@ali-13392]

Do you think specializing in Angular is still worth it in 2024? I have worked exclusively with Angular for a long time now, and I am not really interested to switch to React / Vue.js just yet, but I can if I must.. Please advise!

[@OcielGonzalez_mx]

Best months to search jobs in the US?

[@StefanMischook]

Depends on market.

[@masudalimran92]

I have shared your video/ videos to one of my friend. His opinion was he is a programmer of the 90s. He doesn't even code anymore. He is not the right person take opinion on currently. I couldn't make good argument against that. Can you help me win this argument a bit?

[@StefanMischook]

Ahh yes .... young guys who have barely any experience, thinking they know more than someone who has been doing this longer than they have probably been alive. Look up dunning kruger effect. Unlike many who talk about this stuff, I actually have a commercial web app in the market today ... something verifiable. Development principles and techniques we use today, are no different than what was done 15-20 years ago ... depending on the type of programming you are doing. The only thing that is different today, are the new server models and Ai development.

[@The49ers23]

GEN Xers here in training working on my computer skills technical computers already making an entry-level job 70,000 a year headed towards 140 within the next six months. God bless you all hang in there. Thank you sir for all your information I’m now getting my wife into it pretty soon will be making a quarter million dollars a year together.

[@StefanMischook]

Nice!

[@RepublicOfWesternCanadaNOW]

That's inspiring. I'm 33 looking to get into tech. Coming from a completely separate background.

[@habanerocity]

Are full stack developers more in demand than front end developers in this job market?

[@Matt-m3y-r4u]

Depends on the location I guess. There’s definitely a growing demand for “Jack of all trades” or full stack programmers in disguise. Many employers want less people to do more.

[@StefanMischook]

It has always been and will always be better to be full stack.

[@moyocnenongnanananana854]

So should someone still pursue web development despite of AI?…..been stressing this past few weeks if i will continue this path…I still have 2 more years to graduate college

[@StefanMischook]

Web design will be here for many years. Go for it!

[@TripleA679]

Hi Stef, When you were explaining about implementers of AI, did you mean Machine Learning Engineers?

[@StefanMischook]

No. Just a developer who uses an Ai already created.

[@Kamren331]

i will NEVER work in AI or machine learning...heck no. All i do is ask chatgpt questions i wanna know sometimes thats all

[@tobiasmeyer1766]

would you say learning web design is easier to learn and work as a freelancer then web development.

[@StefanMischook]

Web design is easier to learn but the job opportunities are far greater when you can do even low level development. So learn just a touch of full stack, and you will be happy that you did.

[@tobiasmeyer1766]

but when you start from Zero and you want to become a freelancer. Then web design would be easier and faster to learn and to start earning money as a freelancer right? Or is that difficult to say ? :D @@StefanMischook

[@IffyEdem]

Junior positions don’t exist in the USA anymore. Everyone wants Seniors and to pay them low

[@jermainemyrn19]

I'm interested in blockchain engineering. Should i just learn that or do i need to become a web developer first?

[@alexcook4851]

blockchain is niche, become a strong generalist

[@jermainemyrn19]

@@alexcook4851 like a little if everything? Then how would I know where to start

[@Demilada]

Definetly not uncle Stef's first rodeo!

[@Gandoff2000]

Yes! Keep yourself in shape. If you do not, becoming overweight becomes an occupational hazard. Especially if you spend a lot of time in front of a screen. Then you feel crappie! Not fun. Yes, the voice of experience. Lol

[@chriscole624]

Haha, they have updated the headline and it now says there is a drop in hiring and salaries. How weird

[@StefanMischook]

Depends in the specialization. Developer demand is still strong but process management is being automated ... that's where the job losses are.

[@almdrs]

AI means Python. Isn't it?

[@StefanMischook]

Python is a huge in Ai for sure.

[@AGUNGKAYA]

so web is still the king. Alright. Thanks!

[@StefanMischook]

It is! Besides Elvis.

[@AndreasWitez]

Anti-Muffin FTW!!! (btw, great video quality)

[@StefanMischook]

Thanks!

[@landonova]

build something

[@LionhartM]

"Do you want to be a muffin? It's not cool." -Stefan Mischook

[@azizbelkharmoudi2564]

It has been 10 years now since i cutoff sugar, meat refined carbs and oils to feel good, healthy and mentally focused nothing beats a plant based diet and a stress free lifestyle

[@StefanMischook]

Getting rid of the sugar and processed food is 90% of it.

[@pietro5856]

If developer are replaced by AI , all the office job will be wiped out ….. So , in that future it will be hash but I don’t think so

[@jonathansneed6960]

Implementation is often poorly executed, typically just surface level. Pair a good builder and a good implementor watch out!

[@victorpinasarnault9135]

Hey Stefan, what are you toughts about the future of C++? It will be really replaced?

[@StefanMischook]

Won't be replaced. Too much legacy investment in it.

[@chocolateandmath497]

Would one of you be willing to teach C++? My dream companies require experience (expertise) in it 🥺

[@yugalkishor557]

I'm 2022 graduated from Arts background, want to be software developer, do companies hire arts students if.. guide me sir

[@StefanMischook]

They hire based on demonstrable skills. So learn to code, build stuff.

[@fwdflashwebdesign]

Everybody seam scared today because of AI... I am a freelancer and in the past three months less and less work is available, it makes no sense!

[@PedroBarbosaRoman]

First!

[@gavroshtheswift9959]

Taking your full course atm, all hail the Lizard Wizards

[@StefanMischook]

Nice! Glad you to hear you like it. Think of releasing the sequel: Lizard Wizard Electric Boogaloo.

[@ulrich-tonmoy]

When steam engine came the horse lost its job

[@justinoleary911]

pay has been cut 30-40% and remote work has almost all but ended. this is bs

[@pif5023]

They can’t find talent because they look for frameworkers instead of developers.

[@DC-yw5yg]

laraval