Devil Went Down to Edom | The Weird Bible Podcast: Episode 5

In the Book of Job, the Devil went down to Edom, he was looking for a soul to steal...from God. Often cited as a story of God's cruelty and indifference, Job is, in reality, far more complex than that. Possibly a compilation of an old Jewish story and later Greek influenced philosophical dialogue, the book details the trials of the most righteous man of the day, the wealthy and successful Job. Satan is invited to tempt God's greatest servant, only to fail in breaking his faith. Aidan and Isaiah go deep into how this story of loss is really the story of salvation and growth in character.

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

Isaiah is the most knowledgeable Christian I know. He’s inspired me to read the Bible and to learn about the history of the early church

[@DanielGomez-yk8cu]

What Is The Name Of His Channel?

[@gunboymaximum3207]

​@@DanielGomez-yk8cuWendigoon

[@DanielGomez-yk8cu]

Thanks !!

[@gunboymaximum3207]

@@DanielGomez-yk8cu Np

[@hihello3372]

That set of replys was so wholesome wow thank you, that made me unreasonably happy

[@LethargicGM]

A comment and like for the algorithm

[@futrmechyt]

I agree, a comment

[@kfchickeniscool]

Reeeeal

[@ZeChamberlin]

Agreed. Even if I'm late

[@Ryan-fosho]

Poo poo

[@thearmedgardener]

Indeed

[@ianbuchan8548]

Ngl Aiden rambling about history is the absolute perfect background noise to do some deep thinking about other things 🤣

[@jaydenvitt2095]

Listening to this again while I’m working and heard my name for my superchat and shat myself

[@TheDeathRyder]

I really struggled with my faith the first time I read the Moses story. No one could give me an answer. Thank you.

[@Idengard]

2:32:26 questioning your faith kinda shows how strong it actually is. How could you know you are truly faithful if you never questioned it?

[@masterofshadows8904]

Do an episode where you rip on internet witchcraft

[@darkrequiem9133]

This video helped restore some of my faith in Christ. I'm still thinking about if or when to fully return, but I left ever since my grandfather died, but to think it was "God calling him home"... I remember that I was told by the parents of a friend of mine that they were uncertain that he would go to Heaven because he was a Protestant instead of a Catholic, and that's what turned me away. I was upset at them, because I was thinking "How could God turn him away because of a few differences in worship?" I was also upset at God, for he took my grandfather away just when he was starting to seem like he was feeling better, but this helped me understand a little better. Like I said, I'm not sure if I will come back to the fold fully, but this video helped quite a bit.

[@calebpippin6544]

God bless you brother. May the lord make your paths straight

[@unripetheberrby6283]

So proud for you about it 🥺 I've heard from the bible (some people too, like other youtubers) that when we're hurting or confused that's when we should hold onto bible God and his words the most, because that stability is the most trustworthy one since it doesn't die, gets hurt, or makes you think twice on it Apparently, that's what they've been through and I wanna believe people's supposed experiences y'know? Plus it does feel like it certainly has helped me keep my sanity even through a lot of pains in the past too lol..

[@name-ni3jc]

There's a lot of Catholic views that aren't in the Bible and even contradict the Bible. If it's in the Word, then it's relevant, and everything else is irrelevant

[@utubehound69]

Get out of the Catholic Church ASAP Trust Jesus & no other no religion.

[@redline841]

"This lil boi needs to get here ASAP, I want him on my writing team

[@audreyjones2623]

I love recommending this to people. I also love that you guys tackle science and religion. Makes me feel so less conflicted with my beliefs

[@MMumbles]

I feel you. I went through a real crisis of faith for my conflicting beliefs. More people should realize that science and faith don't have to oppose one another.

[@swobear9626]

​@Ella they do, however. Christianity has just been readjusting the interpretation of the Bible over the years to fit into the current scientific understanding of the world

[@TheWhiteTrashPanda]

25:46 "and the LORD said unto satan 'aight. Bet.'..."

[@FernNicLaren]

"You had every qualification for a job and still didn't get it. What are you gonna do now? Are you gonna curse God or you gonna keep trying? Are you going to, like, strengthen your faith and push on?" If I had a dollar for every inspirational quote I got from this podcast.

[@joaquin6686]

Job is the only thing that keeps my faith in God. It shows how I am not a perfect man In his eyes despite trying my best for earthy things. And when I curse him all I do is hurt myself further.

[@paulhayes5684]

That one line from Aidan made me tear up🥲. I had never thought of it that way.

[@niokami]

which line?

[@huejass7480]

​@@niokamithat one line

[@That1guyiknow]

​​@@niokamiFast pass to heaven maybe? Only slightly joking.

[@ianbuchan8548]

God's not condemning the 4 year old with cancer He's calling them home"

[@jakekrupicki]

At 2:06:50 “are you good to go a bit longer?” Video ends at 3 hours and 50 minutes 😂

[@TheWeirdBible]

We planned on the show being a 90 minute thing at first haha

[@jakekrupicki]

@@TheWeirdBible hey, if I have your attention for a minute, genuinely thank you guys for the podcast. I have been kind of unintentionally distant from the word of God. This show has brought me back to where I need to be from where I was when my dad died. I mean this in the most heartfelt way possible, thank you. I cannot express to you the level my gratitude. This has helped to be the kick in the butt I needed to go back to being the spiritual leader in my household. And I also ask that you pray for me. I am going through a trial where I can relate to Job(not to his extent of course). Really thank you so much for what you guys do

[@nerdcorner2680]

The book of Job is by far my favorite in the Bible so I don’t say this to handwave away all the great writings in it, but I do believe that it is not based on true events. That being said, people will still read great fiction like 1984, To Kill a Mocking Bird, etc and teach entire lectures on it, yet the second a single part of the Bible is a metaphor or not a true event it gets thrown out the window and laughed at. The messages that this story conveys are so deep and profound it is truly life changing. Some of the discourse between Job and his friends could be discussed in entire series of philosophical writings. To cap it all off, people often call Job’s wife and friends bad people, but they are supposed to represent how normal people would react in this situation. It is a layer of deep irony that when looking in a mirror we hate what we see. Such a wonderful and spiritual book and I’m excited to hear your guys’ thoughts!

[@cold1895]

Isaiah has a similar attitude about Job that I have about Abraham's sacrifice of Issac. I was an atheist with a mild interest in theology and history before, but when I truly came to understand the depth of devotion and harrowing sorrow in which Abraham was in on the mountain, I became a believer. I doubt others would come to the understanding I did, yet it made the entire purpose of Christ's sacrifice so clear to me. If there is any path to salvation for the cynical atheist I used to be was to truly understand the meaning of sacrifice first and everything else erupts from that understanding.

[@NightWolf-yq2be]

Same here, I was in a similar point in my life, but I want to believe that I was just questioning my faith. Though I will say I’m glad I did because my faith is more cemented than it ever was and I wish to pass that faith to willing souls to people who are lost and need that spiritual guidance. God bless you

[@matthewhawthorne8411]

God bless you if you ever question again just look back at the Bible. The books of Timothy are my favorite because it shows even as Paul thought he was going to die he wrote how worth it was to know and love Christ.

[@colinsmod5778]

@@NightWolf-yq2be Hello, my friend. I'm a devout Christian, but recently I've been having doubts. Not serious doubts that mess with my core faith, but just anxious thoughts of "What if?" I would humbly request a prayer to help overcome my doubt and anxiety. Thank you, and God bless.

[@samygirl3113]

I was told 7 was seen as the ideal number is sons back then, I think it's just a cherry on top of the blessings of Job's life and character. Ruth 4:15 "for your daughter-in-law, who loves you, who is better to you than seven sons..."

[@7megan7]

You guys are quite literally doing God's work, please never ever stop.❤

[@silence2314]

It's always nice to see people tackle the harder topics in the Bible. It seems a lot of people outside christian circles think Christians are too naive or stupid to think of these things... Really, we usually ARE thinking about it, we just might not be certain about the answers or not feel confident enough in our answers to share them unprompted.

[@MarshallTheArtist]

I've been in a lot of Christian circles and I don't think that many Christians think much about anything.

[@Zevonfan524]

Just here to say I love the work yall do & to please the algorithm gods.

[@basicmitch9189]

You boys are helping me become more invested in the Bible and my faith. Keep it up!

[@samiirai]

lmao what a stupid thing to say

[@davidsandrock7826]

⁠@@samiirai lmao, what a braindead reply from a mewling simpleton.

[@barrelracer12]

I'm so glad you guys make this show!!! While listening and reflecting on my own individual struggles I've gone through I'm so glad to be able to look back and seeing how it helped me get to where I am today.

[@ericwilliams7558]

I'm so glad this video exists. I had read job recently and struggled with it, and this really helped me come to a level of understanding i couldn't accomplish on my own. This is another shining example of how God works through us.

[@R-YR29]

Haven't listened to this pod in over a year. Picked this episode out of nowhere. Then you guys both mentioned having to move forward after breakups I've never been religious, but that seems a bit more than coincidence

[@larch2329]

As a canadian with no guns, ur guns are pretty neat

[@Toddbergstrom]

You guys are a breath of fresh air, a few years ago I was basically soaking in a lot of “Christian” KZbin content and I started following the “armored skeptic” because he was presenting topics in a way I haven’t heard before, so I started watching him regularly. And long story short he said Jesus was Pisces and god was evil and Satan was god and he was playing a long troll on Christian’s trying to pull the rug out from under peoples faith in god

[@user-yg8kq6sd5h]

a satirically wild move of them. it's crazy to put so much effort into pulling a rug from under someone

[@dakotahutchens1634]

This is literally the most underwatched content on KZbin

[@wigster2]

All of those Relient K songs Aiden mentioned are my personal anthems. I’ll throw another one in there as well: Apathetic.

[@corning1]

What a powerful episode…. Both of these men are just wise beyond their years, but Wendi… there is just something about this guy. He really showed his soul in this episode. Strengthens my faith. Gods goodness beams through him at such a level it makes me emotional.

[@UserYabai27]

Based & also my favorite book in the bible from when I was a child up till now will always be Job

[@joshuastevens3100]

Best Bible podcast in the known world.

[@matthewhawthorne8411]

Wendigoon should be the head of the independent Baptist church.

[@Muggy001]

I saw the title of the video and thought it said "The Devil went down on Edom". Also, great stream you guys 👍

[@whitelotus1337]

I have struggled with my faith and anxiety, but this episode really helped me. Especially since my grandma passed in 2022. But what Aiden said at 1:22:29 helped so much. Thank you guys for what you do!

[@justinpearl9317]

Glory glory to God

[@daniella98s]

These conversations are really helping me see the rationale and belief system of Christianity because nothing really made sense to me growing up and my family likes to think of god as “the big man in the sky”. I consider myself agnostic these days, but I always love hearing the ideology of Christ because it helps me better understand those around me. My first job was at a rehab clinic and the 12 steps is pretty much entirely based around God and how through grace and forgiveness you can heal, and even though I listened and went to meetings with patients, I could never truly understand that point of view. I hope that gaining a more philosophical sense of the Bible can give me the confidence to use scripture as a positive tool while talking with those struggling and battling their own demons. This passage of job is really clicking with me, because I’ve seen people at their lowest and heard about the trauma that they’ve been through, but have never really been able to give them a sense of security that “god sees you and he knows you and he will help you” but ANYWAY, I cannot express to you guys how much your conversations have guided me more than anyone else in my 26 years of living (be that my own unwillingness to learn or not 😮‍💨) but thanks for showing us how one can use the Bible through tough times 💗💗💗

[@AnthonyBrakus]

Praise to the most high❤🎉 Thanks brothers for the Bible study. Always welcome.

[@CreamerOfTheDairySquad]

My new favorite podcast hope you continue and increase frequency lol im quickly catching up

[@SplashM0unta1n]

Really enjoying these weird bible episodes. Thank you guys for doing them and i hope for many more

[@jakekrupicki]

Wow, I loved this

[@brendanmoran57]

This is my favorite episode

[@orionsnecrosis7698]

I found and really enjoyed both Wendigoon and Lore Lodge separately, and this podcast has been incredible. Absolutely love it you two, thank you for the thought provoking content

[@dirgesinger1382]

To Hell With The Devil by Stryper is my personal christian song recomendation.

[@hoktauri]

These have been great to listen to while grinding dungeons in FF14

[@SavannahChiperfield]

Love this

[@michaelzuniga1721]

Good episode

[@chimorean3467]

This podcast has replaced the music I'd normally listen to during my commute

[@MarzbarNZ]

Thank you both for sharing. I am new-ish to these podcasts and am very much enjoying them. I Love history and thoroughly enjoy your passionate and so well articulated and researched shows. Its so awesome to hear your knowledge and Christian perspective and testimonies. May God Bless You & Yours & Walk With you all Always. 👍👍

[@Reiscakes79]

Great stuff

[@dissonantwhispers7632]

Another comment and like for the KZbin algorithm. Keep it up guys!

[@iamishin7675]

This show is badass

[@TheMimiSard]

Just to speak on one of those "Gotcha!" things, the dietary rules are something we now know a lot of the possible reasons why God said people should not eat shellfish or pork, so we can now make our own judgment based on what we know now because of science.

[@lucamckenn5932]

Show up for the boys, stay for the Gosh.

[@Gasambag]

1:09:30 This hits hard, another great Isaiah quote, saving this for later

[@andrewkelley9405]

Job is one of my favorite books for 38:4 alone. Edit: I’m wearing a Junji Ito shirt listening to this. I don’t believe in coincidences lol.

[@optimusprime3484]

Really enjoy your discussions just found lore lodge yesterday (Killdozer video was really well done) and was surprised to realize the guy I found talking about Blood Meridian a few weeks ago was his cohost. That being said I would air a word of caution telling Mormons that they're going to heaven because "they're trying to be a good person" is a good interpretation of the Bible. We need one thing to go to heaven and that is the perfect sacrifice of Christ on our behalf to wash away our sins. Salvation is Christ plus nothing. We cannot add one iota to our salvation and if we're depending on being a good person we're doomed before we start.

[@ogradyv]

Peace be with you

[@JosephPaulk77]

Lore lodge officially subscribed. Your a badass

[@CannibalLecter]

Commenting and liking for Algor

[@isaacvanderlinde8541]

Let’s get him there!

[@dhrubo111]

Lmaooo smoking 10 joints and going down a KZbin rabbit hole is how I found the lorelodge and wendigoons channels 🤣🤣🤣

[@matthewhawthorne8411]

I hope you can find your faith god says if you search for the truth you will find him

[@utubehound69]

10 joints ? sounds like you are lying or need to find some decent smoke.

[@NOISEuchl]

I love these so much, and I'm not even Christian

[@thebudyentertainmentchanne8845]

I've always looked at time like the Time loom in Loki, God sees all the twisting and winding branches, but as we make our choices we solidify the timeline one solid line

[@ianmetko4507]

Nice

[@MrSubejio]

Job has always seemed to me the least godly that God has ever seemed to me in the Bible. "God, why have you forsaken me?" "Job, you don't understand, I had to win a bet" "But-" "Oh, EXCUSE ME, did YOU craft a fuck-off huge whale?" "Well... no, but-" "That's what I thought." It seemed to me like God was being written metaphorically from the all-too-human perception of suffering.

[@xqt6339]

Something really important to keep in mind of the book of Job is that it isn't considered nonfiction in Judaism. In my English Jewish Study Bible (because I don't understand Hebrew), the Editors state that Job is a parable from the time of Jews living in Persia. This is most likely why Satan is personified the way they are, because (according to the JSB) Satan as a character (rather than more of a malevolent force inside of humanity) didn't really become prevalent until the Jews of Persia.

[@titobobby5511]

Ty

[@alynsak]

We may not have prophets, but I do believe god speaks to us in dreams and through others. He gives us knowledge whether or not we need to do anything with it. Sometimes it’s getting us prepared for things like death. Things that we naturally don’t understand and are upsetting because of the finality. It’s just a way to help us in this human form. I remember having more than one dream of sitting in my grandparent’s living room and just talking to them. This is after they both passed within a year of each other. I had a longing to be around them since it had been years. Do that was a nice way of maybe saying goodbye in a way that I didn’t feel like I could before.

[@kyobeast9381]

Job is the guy

[@dolphinitely_bro3944]

That joke in the beginning about the giants overthrowing the gov😂 the gov is actually being led and influenced by the watchers of old 😊

[@laricus3647]

Heck yeah

[@melvinbrumski1446]

God allowed the devil to do what he did because the devil tried to call him out in front of the angels in an effort to sway more to rebel and join him. It was nothing more than a way to call satans bluff

[@reasmiling3437]

1:59:01 very much made me smile :)

[@lebadger019]

2:09:12 Peter to ananias "Omae wa mou shindeiru."

[@davidsandrock7826]

I would watch the crap out of an anime adaptation of the Acts of the Apostles.

[@ultrahevybeat]

I hate that this podcast isn't on Spotify

[@draydenschrader7590]

What is the verse they cite when mentioning how the bible says any institution of man will turn to corruption? I can't find it.

[@Kilthan2050]

Sounds like my british lit teacher is high school, we read the illiad, la morte de arthur, the bagadvaghita(hindu text), and mythologies around the world. Teacher was whole grain and nuts.

[@KyleDoes_Things]

I'm a little late with this but anyone who wants to check out the Dantes Inferno game, its absolutely worth it !!!! I mean its a God of war 3 clone in regards to the basic controls and combat system BUT it's pretty good nonetheless. Combat is fun and engaging, and there's an attack that is literally just spamming the cross. You can stun and destroy demons with the power of God

[@timti3689]

I nominate Isaiah as acting Masia.

[@reduchiha8172]

🙏🙌🔥

[@mintymill5374]

It’s kinda sad to go back to this episode after watching some recent stuff. Wendigoon seems so burnt out recently. I don’t think it’s intentional, and I don’t blame him, but I hope he gets some rest or whatever he needs soon. He seemed so upbeat here.

[@ravenRedwake]

I always felt bad for Jobs family.

[@gadawgs8101]

❤

[@TheStacyJamesShow]

When it comes to agnostic or non Christian’s getting into heaven I personally believe god judges then based on how they lived and treated others rather than what they believed in. With so many religions in the world it would take an evil god to condemn them for following the wrong one. I personally believe god is more lenient than we give them credit for. If you’re a genuinely good person who tried their best, I believe there’s a spot in heaven waiting for you.

[@TheStacyJamesShow]

Because I’ve been “exposed” to a lot of religions that I don’t follow

[@swobear9626]

Whats the point of Christianity then? Very poignant belief but not useful for spreading religion

[@TheStacyJamesShow]

@@swobear9626 the point is if used correctly religion can be a guide to live a better life while you’re on earth. Scaring people by saying they won’t get to heaven if they don’t believe definitely won’t help bring people over

[@swobear9626]

@Stacy James sure, but they said themselves you don't need religion to live well.

[@MarshallTheArtist]

@@swobear9626hristians are supposed to do what Christ would do. They don't, but they're supposed to.

[@inara7352]

2:05:19 i currently live in an area that is of religion based on anger and everyone is sinful and basically hardly no salvation for them. I have been impressed on their hate.

[@gremlin2550]

That donkey story makes me think of a meat canyon video, I can his deep voice as the donkey.

[@ravenRedwake]

35:34 …but I mean, that’s kind of a good friend though, an insane friend, but a loyal one.

[@lonelystrategos]

You're not really my friend if you're not willing to fight god for my sake.

[@zacharyrodriguez3551]

Job

[@7megan7]

Underoath is a screamo metal Christian brand, and their music is fantastic if that's your style

[@ahmedabdolghani8879]

I’m surprised wendigoon didn’t already know about the ethiopean coptic and orthodox churches

[@thelinkyo]

Comment for algorithm ❤

[@zacariasnelson5753]

Leviticus and Job were the two books I started with and Wendigoon said those were the only two he would recommend against starting with

[@a-a-rondavis9438]

Which is weird. Every Christian should tell unbelievers or new believers to start with the Gospels, the ENTIRE reason for the Bible, Jesus, and the absolute foundation of every Christian's belief should be rooted in the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. You can read the Gospels, believe and receive salvation, and never read another page outside of it and be fine eternally. You can't say that about any other part of the Bible, even though the entire Bible has an importance. I think the starting point should be how to be saved, and then from there, how to grow. Because without foundation of salvation, it's all in vain and ignorance. Every Christian should try to read every word of the Bible through, but especially with Old Testament, it's evey easily misconstrued by blinded unbelievers and used as fuel for their ignorance.

[@zacariasnelson5753]

@@a-a-rondavis9438 to be completely fair, I was raised in the church, I just decided to start reading on my own at 13 and forgot my place which is why I started with two non sequential books, but I thought I could read the Bible in a year and it took me until I was 17 to finish the Old Testament alone

[@matthewhawthorne8411]

@@a-a-rondavis9438I’d recommend Timothy and then the gospels

[@matthewhawthorne8411]

All of Paul’s letters get me but those most of all god bless

[@7megan7]

Hawaiian shirts: palm trees with Bigfoot hiding behind. Wendigoon skulls with hawaiian flower crowns. Skin walkers with coconut bras and hula skirts dancing. GIANTS in hula attire with tiny palm trees beneath them

[@Dirtymaxmatt]

🎉

[@davidsandrock7826]

The NIV and NLT are _not_ terrible, they simply have a different translation philosophy, going for dynamic equivalence instead of formal equivalence. This is, of course, a generalization, as every translation has each. This makes them more readable for the average reader but slightly less reliable for in-depth study.

[@jettagriffin]

Where’s my cosmic Bible horrors video.

[@jeremystake6992]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@unripetheberrby6283]

3:38:22 i'm drinking strawberry milk rn. :)

[@zackerygreer2715]

FOR THE ALGORITHM!!!!

[@samygirl3113]

Rev. 22:19 is a misstranslation. It's supposed to say tree of life, not book.

[@Azkahamm]

The only way I can see how the book of Job being studied in a European lit course is because of Kierkegaard but that’s more philosophy/theology so maybe still a stretch