The road to Gradle 9 by Alex Semin, Louis Jacomet

[@jscancella]

I started using gradle in 2011 - back when it was purely for java applications. I recently went and converted a maven project to use gradle and it has gotten so complicated. Personally I want a simpler tool like it was in 2011. No need for kotlin, the groovy DSL was fine. No need for polyglot compilation. Just focus on Java and making the experience easy and stop all the breaking changes

[@qwalers]

IMO Kotlin DSL provides better tooling than groovy based on the fact Kotlin is statically typed, opposite to Groovy. The main problem is that the documentation doesn’t provide enough examples and best practices to make the usage simple. Breaking the compatibility multiple times across few major releases doesn’t make the transition easier towards type safe scrips. On the other hand, modern delivery model of the software enforces incremental changes