DeWalt 60V Max Self-Drive Electric Lawn Mower Review

[@Ellopez05]

I appreciate you putting this video together. I’m already invested in dewalt line up and have several flexvolt batteries and a fast charger, which I think dewalt should’ve included with this mower. Thanks for clocking the run times, which is what I needed to know. This mower does make sense for me and I should be able to finish mowing my yard with just two 12ah batteries. Thanks again.

[@texasman45]

Just need a better charger. Looks like that one is the 4amp model so I’d get the 8 or 10amp to charge those big batteries much quicker

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Too bad they didn't include one of those fast chargers with the lawn mower. Instead they included 2 of the slow chargers. I'd rather not spend any more money at this point.

[@simonlafond]

I would very much like to know if with the use of the lawn bag when it is wet is there any accumulation in the hole

[@GrandT]

I have this very mower, accept I purchased the 6 Amp 2 stage charger (DCB1106). A little faster on the charge, and for battery storage you can stop the charge after stage 1 (80%). Good video, lovely mower!

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Thanks! But why would you undercharge the battery for storage? I've never heard of that idea before.

[@GrandT]

@@CanadianOptionsTrader It's the same for any type of battery. It can help with the life-time of them. The more you charge them to max, the more their capacity degrades. That's also the reason the DCB1106 exists, and why [some newer] phones have the battery saver mode, which keeps it at around 80-85% charge. There's a whole study and discussion about it, which would make this reply about a complete thesaurus worth.

[@GrandT]

@@CanadianOptionsTrader I should also add; The 80% charge portion is super fast!

[@user-jm4nj7nz6t]

Your complaint with the batteries is the same complaint that everyone has with these mowers. The mowers themselves are great, but people don't have realistic expectations with respect to the batteries. When you are buying electric power tools these days you are not investing in the tool, you are investing in the battery system. It only really makes sense to buy a certain brand of tools if you are also buying those batteries. All of my power tools are DeWalt, and I have their first generation mower, which I run on a pair of 9Ah Flexvolts which is usually sufficient. However, if I run out all I have to do is go into my garage and grab another bunch of batteries to finish the job. Dewalt has no idea what the size of your yard is when they sell the mower, so it's really not fair for you to give the system a thumbs down on the runtime because your yard is probably bigger than average. It's really no different than complaining about running out of gas with an ICE mower. Go buy more gas, or go buy another battery, and your complaints disappear. To be fair, when DeWalt first sold their first gen mower, they packaged it with a pair of 5Ah batteries which was wholly insufficient for all but the smallest lawns. It should have come with larger ones, but they only came out with 20V high capacity batteries lately. Running on Flexvolts, the thing does my lawn and my neighbor's on one charge as long as the grass isn't too long or wet. I love the thing, but I wish the bag was a little bigger in capacity, and that it was powered. Thanks for the review, I've been eager to see how these new powered ones are doing to see about upgrading in the future.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Ok, thanks! You make great points! It's definitely been a learning experience for me. To be fair, the mower is advertised as suitable for lawns up to 20,000 square feet. Since I posted this video, I learned to just stagger the 3 cuts, and take a break in between, so there is extra time for the 1st battery to charge. It all works out fine if I'm able to adapt to the battery capacity and performance. There are always trade-offs, just like driving an electric car or using a heat pump to heat my house (which I do).

[@israelmalik9427]

Also it is good to remember that batteries and chargers play simple math games. A 12Ah battery plug into 4Ah charger takes three (3) hours to charge (12/4=3). Get 8Ah or 12Ah charger. Last, all 20V tools works with the 60v/20v flex batteries but 60V tool will not work with a 20v battery, there is extra active pin in the 60v mode to make sure of it.

[@bamoore65]

Flex volt means that the battery can be used with 60v or 20v systems.

[@taylorshin]

That battery works with 20V power tools. That is why they are labeled 20V Flex! Vo.t. Nice review. I guess I will get this mower next time since I have a lot od DeWalt powertools already! My hammerdrill will love that battery 😅 Quick tip. That 12Ah is 20 V measure. So, 240Wh. But for mower, 60V means 4Ah.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Good to know! Thanks for this info! I may eventually want to try the DeWalt leaf blower using these same batteries.

[@emmettturner9452]

With 3 batteries and a fast charger: One mows while one cools and one charges. Might want to throw a 6 or 9AH FlexVolt into the mix. The 6AH is what they like to bundle with smaller FV tools. 9AH hits harder (higher current cells) and can often be found on sale.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Too bad they didn't include 1 of those faster chargers with the mower! Instead they included 2 of the slower chargers. I'd rather not spend any more money at this point.

[@emmettturner9452]

Yeah. I think it was a missed opportunity. I saw that they just revealed a new 60V FlexVolt mower that holds two batteries and can switch when one drains, similar to Ryobi 40V. Saves at least one trudge back to the garage but maybe they should have made it that way from the start.

[@geynerperez]

I believe the mower does it’s job I will say if you buy another battery buy 12 AH it will give you longer cut also stop using the self propelled to save some battery power. They also have a Faster charger to charge your batteries a lot faster.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Too bad they didn't include 1 of those faster chargers with the mower! Instead they included 2 of the slower chargers. I'd rather not spend any more money at this point.

[@jeffreylavergne3090]

Does the new 15amp hour battery fit ?

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

I've never seen one of those batteries. I have no idea if it will fit.

[@HenReviews]

Thanks for this review, I'm about to order one myself. I'm not sure if I heard you correctly but are you able to disengage the self propelling feature and just push it ?

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Yes, you do not have to use the self propulsion. The black wire bar engages the cutting blades, and the grey thumb button drives the rear wheel. They are separate controls that both work without using the other.

[@robertblaser9899]

@@CanadianOptionsTrader When not using the self propulsion, do the wheels spin completely free? Or are the wheels a little harder to spin than wheels without the sel-propel option?

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

@@robertblaser9899 Yes, the mower is very easy to push when not engaging the self propulsion feature.

[@AmiteshNaidu]

Mate, you need a ride on mower

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

To be fair, the mower is advertised as suitable for lawns up to 20,000 square feet, and I'm way under that. Since I posted this video, I learned to just stagger the 3 cuts, and take a break in between, and it all works out fine. I do like getting the extra steps in, so I'm happy with walking the yard while mowing quietly.

[@benderman55]

I have the 12ah charger, works like a dream

[@mistabeatz5786]

Thanks for posting this video. I have one that will be coming in soon but they're back ordered and there's not many videos of the new model. If you get the DeWalt fast charger, it's 8 amp charger and will charge those batteries twice as fast

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Ok, thanks! I will definitely look into the faster charger!

[@mistabeatz5786]

@@CanadianOptionsTrader they're about 100 retail us but if you have like Facebook market or something similar I was able to get one for $40. They also make a USB DeWalt charger that will rapid charge batteries as well if you're going to invest in another charger and would like the functionality of using USB

[@zxsovichxz]

They also have a 12amp/hr fast charger that will charge one of those 60v 12amp batteries in 1 hour flat.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

@@zxsovichxz That would be great! Too bad they didn't include one of those fast chargers with the lawn mower.

[@MrBostonBilly]

The battery can be used in all 20 volt up to 60 volt dewalt tools

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Good to know! Thanks for this info! I may eventually want to try the DeWalt leaf blower using these same batteries.

[@plmn93]

Thanks for the review, not many out there yet. I'm not impressed though. That shallow deck isn't going to generate much lift and only being able to use one battery at a time is a hassle, along with the upside down loading. The blades look skimpy as well. I don't understand what DeWalt is thinking. If you have other tools to use the batteries in I guess it could make sense. Essentially a $200 mower with $600 worth of batteries.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

It's definitely a high price to pay for a lawn mower that has several trade-offs and deficiencies.

[@peteh4312]

20 volt means you can use them batteries on the 20 volt tools. It’s a multi volt battery

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Good to know! Thanks for this info! I may eventually want to try the DeWalt leaf blower using these same batteries.

[@FromThe3PointLine]

Do a 2 or 3 year update plz

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Ok, sure, but I've only had the mower for 2 months so far!

[@paulr6326]

In my opinion you are using the wrong type of mower for that size yard...unless you have more than 2 batteries. You definitely need a gas mower, preferably a riding mower. But, I do like your review. Thank You!

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

To be fair, the mower is advertised as suitable for lawns up to 20,000 square feet, and I'm way under that. Since I posted this video, I learned to just stagger the 3 cuts, and take a break in between, and it all works out fine. I do like getting the extra steps in, so I'm happy with walking the yard while mowing quietly.

[@christopherjimenez4519]

If you cut without using the self propel that exponentially increases your run time fyi

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Yes, that makes sense! I've tried that as well, since posting this video.

[@zachvargas122588]

Yeah it should come with the 6amp fast charger !

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Agreed! My mower came with 2 of the slower chargers, but I would have preferred just 1 of the faster chargers instead!

[@CommunityCleanup]

If you had avoided using the self-propelled mode, you would have done your entire lawn, no problem. The drive motor eats a ton of power, and considering your using the hefty 12AH batteries, that 45minutes would have easily been over an hour.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

@@CommunityCleanup Sure, but why bother? I bought this version of the mower for the self propulsion. Otherwise I would have bought the push version.

[@CommunityCleanup]

@@CanadianOptionsTrader Because your making it out like the mower itself has a bad point / negative. It doesn't. You're reviewing a mower that has fulfilled exactly what it promised, then making it sound like it doesn't. You said "You cant run one while charging the other and expect it to be ready"... Well, you wouldn't need 3 batteries if you were not pushing it beyond what it was designed for. It can just about, at a big push, cope with 900mSQ, but thats "light use" with no propulsion. Those are max figures. Your back yard is way over 200mSQ. Closer to 400... Mine is 240mSQ, and its half the size of yours. All i'm saying is, be fair.. Your trying to mow well over 1100mSQ, then claiming the mower/battery is the problem. I've been using the 2 x 18v version for a year now, and with 2 x 54v Flexvolt batteries, I get about 1hr, no self-drive, so can do about 500mSQ roughly, so was looking at upgrading to something quicker or lighter as I cut public lawns in my neighbourhood, so have 8 of those huge flexvolt batteries now., which is why I was looking at this mower 🙂 In the UK, they're all 54v/18v... Thanks for the video though, much appreciated. doesn't sound any quieter/louder than the 36v version I'm using...

[@Vanman_fr]

You may want to invest in a faster charger being you a pretty large yard have 6 amp charger its 3x faster

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Ok, thanks! I will definitely look into the faster charger!

[@mistabeatz5786]

This kit actually comes with the 4 amp charger because their flex volt batteries. But I do agree I have the 8 amp fast charger and it makes a world of a difference with the flex volts

[@Vanman_fr]

@mistabeatz5786 ah I see I assumed it was the 2 amp chargers

[@Christobevii3]

@@CanadianOptionsTrader other option if you commit to dewalt is the 4 port fast charger. I use this on the last gen 2 x 20v x 10ah mower (yours cuts a lot better and doesn't hold clippings, looks nice) and it works great between all my tools and chargers much faster.

[@natureside1736]

Thanks for the video

[@emmettturner9452]

20V Max is DeWALT’s standard 18 volt tool/battery line… basically DeWALT’s version of Milwaukee’s M18 tool/battery line. “FlexVolt” is called that because it works in 54 volt “60V Max” FlexVolt tools and existing 20V Max tools. It supports both voltages. Yes, DeWALT deliberately names it after the maximum voltage instead of the nominal voltage for marketing purposes. They aren’t allowed to do this in some countries which is why you might see the same tools and batteries called “18V Max” and “54V Max.” This is DeWALT’s first FlexVolt mower, which is why it only needs one 54 volt battery. The older 2x 20V Max mowers needed two 18 volt batteries to make 36 volts and they did not perform very well. 54v>36v

[@pehenry]

Dude are you intentionally trying to be confusing by using 18v/20v and 56V/60v. This isn't the UK. It's just 20v or 60v.

[@emmettturner9452]

A) It’s not just the UK that will not allow DeWALT to call it 20V Max. It’s most of the world. I’ve seen 18V Max everywhere from the UK to Hong Kong to Australia. B) I was answering his question when he openly expressed his confusion about why it says 20V Max. It seems he wasn’t even aware that the batteries could be used in 20V Max tools including the old 2x 20V Max mowers with 2/3rds the voltage. C) I never once said 20v or 60v as you claim. “20V Max” is a regional name. 18 volts is a universal specification for the nominal voltage. I’m not the one mixing up voltages with marketing names. I was very careful. I never even abbreviated “volts” until the very end (deliberately in lower case). D) Yes, the other DeWALT cordless electric mowers are called “2x 20V Max.” I didn’t make that up. The error compounds when you multiply which is why it’s important to clarify how FlexVolt compares in 60V Max and 2x 20V Max modes. …and it’s not 18/54v because of what DeWALT calls it in any other country. It’s 18/54v because that’s what it is. It’s marketing it as something else that is confusing people. Referring to what it really is only clarifies.

[@pehenry]

@@emmettturner9452 you most certainly said "56 volt". It's the same thing as "56v" you pedantic knob.

[@pehenry]

@@emmettturner9452 the lithium ion cells that make up these batteries range in voltage from 3.6 volts when discharged to 4.2 volts when fully charged. There's in infinite number of irrational numbers between 3.6 and 4.2. Only an, irrational, pedantic maroon would chose a to represent the nominal voltage of the cell as an irrational number. There's only one whole number between 3.6 and 4.2 and that's 4. 4 is the only sane, logical, simple choice. You get the 20 volts, which is literally advertised on the battery by multiplying the 5 lithium ion cells, in series, together (4 volts * 5 cells = 20 volts). The Flexvolt batteries have 15 cells. And via special their logic boards, they can use all 15 cells in series (15 x 4 volts = 60 volts) or create 3 parallel sets of 5 cells in series to create an uber 20 volt battery. Jesus. Go be a maroon elsewhere.

[@pehenry]

@@emmettturner9452 lithium ion batteries range in voltage between 3.6 volts to 4.2 volts when fully charged. There's an infinite number of irrational numbers between 3.6 and 4.2. Only an irrational maroon would choose any one of those irrational numbers to represent the nominal voltage of the cell. There are 5 cells in series. 4 volts * 5 cells = 20 volts. For a Flexvolt, there are 15 cells. 15 cells * 4 volts = 60 volts. The Flexvolt can also operate at 20 volts by splitting the 15 cells into 3, 20 volt packs (5 cells at 4 volts) in parallel. Don't be daft.

[@cynic256]

Get the faster charger and you will alleviate the issue you have, or a 3rd battery.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Ok, thanks! I will definitely look into the faster charger!

[@americantroy77]

The way you keep trying to plug the podcast is a little cringe

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Lol! I'm just trying to help by giving free information and empower viewers to learn about personal finance and DIY investing. I receive zero compensation for any of this. This video was an attempt to introduce my channel to a slightly different DIY audience.

[@BoogerBox]

@@CanadianOptionsTraderI give you credit. That was a very positive response to a rather negative one.

[@ThePavelbychik]

You just need a fast charger

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

@@ThePavelbychik Sure, but too bad it didn't come with 1 of those fast chargers in the first place, rather than coming with 2 slow chargers.

[@dannyaiello5089]

If you get the fast charger, you'll get a full charge within the 48 minutes

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

@@dannyaiello5089 Sure! Too bad the mower didn't come with 1 of those fast chargers, instead of 2 of the slower chargers. I'm not crazy about spending extra for another charger at this point. Maybe next season.

[@518TommyP]

you have a 20v charger for a 60 volt battery and complaining it takes too long?...order yourself the better charger and stop using the low end charger

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

You make it sound like this is common knowledge or something. How would I know this when purchasing the lawn mower? All these items came together in the same box.

[@pehenry]

You need a bigger mower.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

@@pehenry To be fair, the mower is advertised as suitable for lawns up to 20,000 square feet, and I'm way under that. Since I posted this video, I learned to just stagger the 3 cuts, and take a break in between, and it all works out fine. I do like getting the extra steps in, so I'm happy with walking the yard while mowing quietly.

[@lookingthroughice7843]

Buddy your using the wrong mower for your size property. You office workers have no clue on how to do things. Dewalt products are shit to begin with, you my friend need a ride on lawnmower for that property and keep that little trimmer to cut the corners you can't get into with your ride on. Put your wife to work cutting the edges of tight areas and you cut the rest with the ride on mower. We both know she could lose a little bit of weight.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

@@lookingthroughice7843 You make some valid points! To be fair, the mower is advertised as suitable for lawns up to 20,000 square feet, and I'm way under that. Since I posted this video, I learned to just stagger the 3 cuts, and take a break in between, and it all works out fine. There are always trade-offs, just like driving an electric car or using a heat pump to heat my house (which I also do). I do like getting the extra steps in, so I'm happy with walking the yard while mowing quietly.

[@geynerperez]

I believe the mower does it’s job I will say if you buy another battery buy 12 AH it will give you longer cut also stop using the self propelled to save some battery power. They also have a Faster charger to charge your batteries a lot faster.

[@CanadianOptionsTrader]

Too bad they didn't include 1 of those faster chargers with the mower! Instead they included 2 of the slower chargers. I'd rather not spend any more money at this point.