People who love the pneumatic stuff needs to remember that hikoki and Milwaukee must be refilled every once in awhile. This probably costs 100-150 dollars. My hikoki nailer has been refilled 3 times. Also, the seals and such will start to leak after some time, which will require costly maintenance. Dewalt's mechanical solutions ain't as dumb as it looks. I've got two dewalt guns and two hikoki. I think the new generation dewalt will be very good!
@olgajoachimosmundsen46473 ай бұрын
Dewalt guns are also very well balanced and lighter. Milwaukee framer is both heavier and front heavy. Hikoki is better than Milwaukee in this area, but not as good as dewalt.
@elsewhere91673 ай бұрын
I refilled my own with their ( Metabo) regulator for about 50 bucks... and I can reuse it... my Metabo rocks! (4 years old)
@darinvee49803 ай бұрын
Yes, the flywheel may not be as appealing, but I'm betting it's much more durable than the canister. I've had my Dewalt 30 degree for 4 years and it has never had an issue.
@johnnybear1113 ай бұрын
Anything's better than that damn air hose
@bigbeet29473 ай бұрын
Hikoki valve and you’re recharging yourself all day long. F the Milwaukee design though, unbelievable
@GuyBaptist7773 ай бұрын
That looks like a serious upgrade from the last model. I might actually reconsider DeWalt in their flywheel after seeing this.
@LigerSupremacy3 ай бұрын
Dewalt makes the best cordless framing nailer for those that don't mind the weight and noise. I have done zero maintenance so far. It has run perfectly for quick framing jobs.
@bentuovila52963 ай бұрын
Mine has been great. Not as fast as a pneumatic one but for most tasks the convenience is well worth it the half second delay.
@DK-jd8bjАй бұрын
Milwaukee is so much better
@dmitrisonijosofianikolai7247Ай бұрын
Had bad experience with Milwaukee nail guns
@TOOL_TECHNICALАй бұрын
how long and how hard do you run it is the question. a lot of nailers start showing their true colors when you need them most. some carpenters say it's around 50-60k nails in where you start noticing issues if any. I've heard many bad impressions of Dewalt's nailers. we all just want dependable tools and could care less about the colors lol
@loucifer42053 ай бұрын
Glad they kept the flywheel design far superior to the air tank design which with heavy use runs out of air 6 months to a year with the dewalt you get 3 to 5 years before you have to service plus it's a lot lighter
3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this input because I only ever hear people complaining about the flywheel, and never talking about it having any advantages
@ToolReviewZone3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the feedback brother, and yeah, you make a great point 👉
@blamuk3 ай бұрын
What kind of servicing does it need in 3-5 years?
@loucifer42053 ай бұрын
@@blamuk The firing pin and spring wear out
@onikwa3 ай бұрын
Ok but if you buy a good brand like the OG air spring Metabo HPT they let you service it yourself... 5 seconds with a compressor.
@chelolelo7 күн бұрын
I went thru one of the newer 930 models. It ran good for about 200 nails. Then had a jam...Then kept jamming on every nail after. Took it back, and tried another. It jammed about 5 nails in Tried griprite and paslode and dewault nails. Got a milwaukee and no problems
@chalillo22683 ай бұрын
I own the old one! Disappointed they still keep same tech. Going for milwaukee next!
@sodakkid60543 ай бұрын
They have everything lol and easy to get your stuff warrantied
@spilleradam3 ай бұрын
I had the Dewalt 16 gauge finish gun for 5 years it was junk, I sold it and bought the Milwaukee 16 gauge second generation it’s a much better gun, it’s very good almost like a pneumatic air gun but heavier, I would definitely recommend it.
@twescher3 ай бұрын
That dewalt looks really heavy duty. I own the 15ga finish milwaukee and still have pneumatic for when I frame. Love my milwaukee
@bewbathis_32113 ай бұрын
Been using the Milwaukee one for a few months now. Working great for the most part. Battery life USUALLY lasts a work day per charge. Definitely quieter. The thing is pretty heavy compared to a regular air gun
@GoldMineArcade3 ай бұрын
@@spilleradamI’ve have the DeWalt 16 gauge nailer for 3 years. What do you not like about it? Mine has never had a nail jam and it works smooth as butter
@blamuk3 ай бұрын
I guess i don't mind the sound if its actually reliable, sink full depth into lvls and don't need topping up with compressed gasses like the others do.
@Kk-gx7ok3 ай бұрын
News flash its not i threw mine away
@joshuaking343 ай бұрын
@@Kk-gx7okNews flash, it just hit the market.
@ToolReviewZone3 ай бұрын
Wow, you aren't even talking about the same model 🤷
@ToolReviewZone3 ай бұрын
These guys are something else 🤣
@joer92763 ай бұрын
I love my Metabo framing nailer!
@sfcarp94183 ай бұрын
The Hikoki ( or in the U.S Metabo HPT ) is a great gun and slightly lighter than the Milwaukee gun !!
@KingYang053 ай бұрын
It shot all those nails with no pilot holes. Impressive.
@ToolReviewZone3 ай бұрын
Hahaha 🤣🤣👊👊
@rosscoursey49793 күн бұрын
Milwaukee still has the best overall cordless nail gun
@jrod51133 ай бұрын
Having the flywheel always active 🤔... wouldn't that reduce the tool life?
@N1rOx3 ай бұрын
it's probably timed and couldn't be shown in a short. There's many times where you need to adjust a piece and only have one shot to tack it in place temporarily. It's likely left on for those moments. My guess would be 10 seconds on. Just my speculation though.
@pootinhammer3 ай бұрын
my paslode nailers are approaching 20 years old and still work like new.they just need to be cleaned and oiled a few times per year and ive probably replaced the o ring 3 times over their lifetime. its gonna be a tough decision figuring out what to replace them with when the time comes
@durenjacob6943 ай бұрын
The flywheel sound is much better than the compressor going off, if it bothers you just west ear protection?
@fzavala7773 ай бұрын
Metabo hpt has the best cordless framing gun
@user-it4nu7im1vАй бұрын
Meanwhile everyone trying to one up eachother on brands I have a 1980s Bostitch Stanley n86 that goes as good as the day I bought it and I've only replaced the seals like 4 weeks ago which is why I'm still getting nailgun algorithms Yeah I ain't switching to battery, I'll take a 50m long airline anyday A piece of PVC pipe with a a portion cut down the length is great for holding a disconnected airline while you walk around
@fazed_out4205Ай бұрын
I prefer the flywheel cause it's better. Milwaukee framing nailer has a mini air compressor in it, but you'll have to put air in it when the nailing gets weaker and it costs money, with all this inflation I can't afford air lol dewalt it is
@theSaltyCarpenter3 ай бұрын
Metabo hpt nailers are the best!!!!
@BryanClark-gk6ie3 ай бұрын
All tool brands have their pros and cons. DeWalt gets a bad rap from a lot of people' I have several different types in different brands of battery powered tools. Over all and for the money' I've had good service out of DeWalt tools for the past 25/30 years. Use them alot in the body shop business.
@joe76653 ай бұрын
i love milwaukee tools, but their framing nailer is heavy as hell
@PTHPHX3 ай бұрын
Man that sound
@tombombieth3 ай бұрын
Great for pine. The end. 👍
@aetorres74223 ай бұрын
What's the technology in DeWalt pin nailer it does not make that ramp up noise
@richardsampson4493 ай бұрын
Model name is the framing banshee.
@MikeWithUrBike3 ай бұрын
I’ve used both for work. dewalt has been more reliable for me. What you have to pay attention to is the material your shooting into. If you going into hardie I set in power 1 and set nail depth all the way down and when I shoot into studs it lands perfect depth. Framing I’m usually in power 2 with 1/4-1/2 depth Milwaukee has been ok to use. It seems like it jams up on me a lot though. Both nailers shoot plastic prices everywhere. It’s nature of the beast when not using paper or coil
@andrewmiller92073 ай бұрын
Keeping my air compressed nailer until these battery models get lighter...
@cleanmikeandtheboys31653 ай бұрын
Comments section seems to agree with each other even less than usual but somehow much more peacefully than usual too 😂
@ToolReviewZone3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's weird. Usually gets pretty nasty in here 🤣👊
@minhdaubu23633 ай бұрын
Time has change. I divorced my battery platform. Now I just go with the best tools any brand has to offer. Dewalt seems to top the market with this one
@markwalker2307Ай бұрын
I'm goimg for Paslode
@PD-we8vf3 ай бұрын
Leaves yellow plastic all over the yard?
@GoldMineArcade3 ай бұрын
All 21* framing nail gun nails has that plastic
@pathlawncare7443 ай бұрын
Is it still CO2 powered?
@jackjacker85553 ай бұрын
No dewalt guns are co2? They are mechanical flywheel.
@nfitz11Ай бұрын
If I put that against my skull would it kill me?
@ToolReviewZoneАй бұрын
Ummm, you may want to reach out and talk with someone....just saying
@rudykirsh9113Ай бұрын
THE MILWAIKEE 30 DEGREE BATTERY FRAMER IS BETTER FAST NAILING FIREDS A cpl nails per second .
@andyreiter3 ай бұрын
Mine won't drive a nail for shit. Exchanged it and returned the new one.
@Joethetoolguy3 ай бұрын
Oh I hate this 😅 thanks for the review bro
@nissanvq35lag233 ай бұрын
I like how you turned down the annoying noise of this gun,i bet on the field editing won't work
@mattheworoark14593 ай бұрын
My old version jambs 3-5 times a day . . .
@lomein21863 ай бұрын
Flywheel noise is normal on any brands battery powered nailers, its gotta build up that pressure somehow (idk how milwaukee does it)
@twescher3 ай бұрын
Not on my Milwaukee. Gas charge assist...flawless action
@parkerk70183 ай бұрын
@@tweschernitrogen pack
@LigerSupremacy3 ай бұрын
Milwaukee has CO2 canisters that have to be refilled every few months.
@elsewhere91673 ай бұрын
Not on the Metabo... it's the best.
@BleachedPink11113 ай бұрын
Why is it tearing up the wood so much 😭
@nickfish35453 ай бұрын
The Milwaukee is so much better
@juggernaut3163 ай бұрын
I'll stick with my air nailer
@LigerSupremacy3 ай бұрын
...And your hose and your compressor and an extension cord and an outlet to plug it in. I have both and I always reach for the Dewalt. If its a larger/longer job then I use both.
@sherwinstaudt18813 ай бұрын
That's right air is the only way to go, the best frame nailer there ever was and I have been using it for 30-plus years 606 do a fast short track.
@noire10013 ай бұрын
Imagine these on their 54v system...
@thevillain81513 ай бұрын
thanks dewalt for not caring about builders
@michaeladam3792Ай бұрын
Adjust the nail-ga 😂 I see what you did there
@peterparker92863 ай бұрын
CapaciTor
@ToolReviewZone3 ай бұрын
Sawhorse.....your turn
@77teahupoo3 ай бұрын
Total crap, I just tested two units on LSL timberstrand and both guns jammed after the first shot. The first shot wouldn’t even drive the nail fully. The old gun sucked but at least it worked. I’m a Dewalt guy for everything, over 100 batteries but this is a huge let down.
@gxc2662Ай бұрын
no matter how good it is, the flywheel noise is dealbreaker, so NO. other brand take my money
@tanorkewl83603 ай бұрын
Candy striper
@KingCuba07313 ай бұрын
Hate the ramp up
@eddieabernathy59983 ай бұрын
As much as I love DeWalt tools their nailers are just too damn big🛠
@LigerSupremacy3 ай бұрын
Your arms are too damn small. The Dewalt is perfect for me.
@DK-jd8bjАй бұрын
The dewalt is so annoying and slow. Milwaukee is so much faster. It is ridiculously heavy for continuous framing. Still prefer a Hitachi air nailer for all day.
@roberthoffman47133 ай бұрын
Wow that thing is loud. I don't use them and I haven't been around many nailers in years, but if they are all that loud I wouldn't care for them.
@GoldMineArcade3 ай бұрын
Not as loud as pneumatic
@steadly36683 ай бұрын
Compared to..? A compressor or a hammer banging all day?
@John..5563 ай бұрын
Nope no way Milwaukee has it. Just a heavy sob
@anatolyspencer27303 ай бұрын
Yuck. This is a tool dewalt failed the first time and obviously failed again. Ryobi or Milwaukee is the way to go.
@rileycoble58423 ай бұрын
Looks really bulky
@N1rOx3 ай бұрын
They're now on what? Gen 4 now? Same tech? Definition of sunk cost fallacy. Germans love a good flywheel.
@LigerSupremacy3 ай бұрын
They've sold thousands of them and people keep buying them because they work well if you know how to operate them effectively.
@N1rOx3 ай бұрын
@@LigerSupremacy They sell thousands because of the lock in effect a major brand has when they have proprietary batteries. The average blue collar guy isn't scouring the internet for reviews or opinions. When Carpenters discuss nail guns to buy on message boards and facebook groups, DeWalt gun is recommended last. I'd say I'm read up to about Gen 2, used Gen 1 extensively and those were not good guns. Weak and consistently misfires compared to sealed cylinder and about on par with gas. Gen 3 appears to be improved from ratings I've seen online, so it's clear progress has been made. You have to ask yourself though, did they need to take 4 iterations to catch up to gen 1 sealed cylinder nailers in terms of power, consistency? 2024 catches up to 2017.
@minhdaubu23633 ай бұрын
You can say that 2017 caught up to 2013 and 2013 caught up to 2008 too. Usually the one that comes out later would do a number on their competitors. The upcoming makita will probably do a number on Milwaukee too with their user serviceability
@N1rOx3 ай бұрын
@@minhdaubu2363 Usually, though that isn't the case here which is why I worded it in that order.
@minhdaubu23633 ай бұрын
@@N1rOx in that case it’s 2013 improved catches up to 2017?
@darylhudson7773 ай бұрын
I'm staying away from all these convenient lazy man power tools and sticking with American-made Hammers and nails and corded brushed tools
@ToolReviewZone3 ай бұрын
Like I always say, why work smarter when you can work harder. That's why I still churn my own butter 👊
@darylhudson7773 ай бұрын
@@ToolReviewZone well when you find a woman she can churn the butter on the porch while sitting in the old rocking chair covered head to foot singing Bringing in the Sheaves
@LigerSupremacy3 ай бұрын
Why do a job in a week when you can take a whole month to do the same thing? LOL
@darylhudson7773 ай бұрын
@@LigerSupremacy well it makes me feel better that I'm contributing to the United States instead of communist China who was killed over a hundred million people
@matthewbedient15253 ай бұрын
Worst sound ive heard. I keep trying to convince everyone to get the milwaukee guns
@stephenmiriaja4322Ай бұрын
garbage, i have 2 broken one 2 years one less than a year
@ToolReviewZoneАй бұрын
How, this is the new Gen and was just released. You a time traveler bro?
@stephenmiriaja4322Ай бұрын
@@ToolReviewZone last 2 gens were crap…what im supposed to just fall for the trap again? Nah switching back to the old paslode gas gun…sorry dewalt wasted too much time and money already. No thanks.
@mystoryhisglory9438Ай бұрын
Dewalt sucks
@mr.anderson70893 ай бұрын
It's too bad they couldn't dampen the sound somehow. The lighter weight is a positive at least.
@mr.anderson70893 ай бұрын
@Steven-fi4gf Not a deal breaker but it is an annoying sound. I've owned the 16 gauge for years so not a huge deal but would be nice if it was a bit less noisy. Very common complaint with dewalt nailers.