Dexter New Blood - The Bad and The Good

[@TheRaider1815]

I'm not sure how you can say how the writing isn't rushed when Harrison goes from "whoa my dad is Batman" to killing him, in less than one episode. There definitely should've been WAY more build up to him turning on Dexter

[@calebjanus2000]

Two more episodes were needed.

[@PulpandArt]

But in between those episodes he killed twice, one time a friend of Harrison

[@TheRaider1815]

@@PulpandArt Harrison knew Logan for like 2 weeks. They aren't "friends"

[@PulpandArt]

@@TheRaider1815 Still, a totally innocent person that Harrison liked and looked up to. What would you do if your father tells you he killed your coach?

[@TheRaider1815]

@@PulpandArt I'm not saying the concept/idea is bad. I'm saying the execution was way too rushed. Have you ever watched Breaking Bad? That's how you do proper build up, instead of just rushing everything at the end

[@kaisercisco]

But what about the stop sign? Forget about harrison, this is the spinoff we need

[@shenotski]

Accidents happen

[@Brandon_Powell]

After the ending of New Blood, I decided to go back through the original series. Before, I was having trouble deciding whether or not I liked season 1 or 2 more, but I think I've settled on season 1. Watching the show over again helped me figure out why I was so disappointed by the ending of New Blood. I discovered that the first 4 episodes of the series are probably the most important episodes in terms of character development for Dexter. The first 4 episodes establish that Dexter has a need to kill, but he only kills people who hurt other people. They establish that Dexter believes he's incapable of feeling compassion or empathy, but then they immediately start challenging that idea. The show establishes that the Ice Truck Killer's goal is to prove to Dexter that the code is only a hindrance and its only purpose is to serve Harry more than Dexter. He attempts to do this by trying to get Dexter to kill an innocent person. But Dexter refuses and decides for himself that he doesn't want to kill innocent people. The attempt to turn him into the villain of the entire series fell short for me because it sacrificed the most interesting aspect of the character. He watched his mother get chopped to pieces when he was a child, and it set in him a need to do the same thing to criminals. Dexter didn't require poetic justice because he was poetic justice. I know that there are a lot of people who like the ending of New Blood, and I'm not trying to diminish anyone's enjoyment of it. I'm just trying to explain adequately why it disappointed me. There are, of course, some holes in the plot as well as the themes, but at least for the time being, I'm less concerned about those than the points I've brought up about Dexter's character. The most important thing for me in any story is the characters. People sometimes think I'm trying to ruin their fun when I bring up issues with plot, theme, and character, but all I'm trying to do is make sense of it myself. I think objective quality is important but not nearly as important as subjective opinion. But hey, at least Clancy Brown was awesome.

[@vida3814]

I don't find your explanation adequate at all. You're putting everything based on the first 4 episodes, how about Dexter's involvement in killing Doakes, Rita, Laguerta, Liddy, and DEBRA? After season 2 when he deliberately framed Doakes "never get caught" became more important than "never hurt an innocent" and of course he hurt many innocent lives in different ways. One example, Rita's children who had to grew up without their mother and father, Harrison...

[@norm-bb3bb]

I liked the ending and I agree with you on this, Dexter New Blood needed at least 3 seasons to see that transformation of Dexter from anti hero to villain, maybe his death wouldn't have hurt so much to me if they would've done this. Dexter is such a complex character, I hope to see a reboot in the future but damn is going to be so hard to find someone as good as Michael C Hall for this role.

[@Brandon_Powell]

@@vida3814 Dexter wasn't really involved directly with killing Doakes. Lila is responsible for the actual killing. Sure he took advantage of his death but that's not really the same as killing him. For the record I don't think Doakes should have died. I think he should have discovered what Dexter was doing and turned his head the other way. There are several instances in the first season where Doakes becomes frustrated with the failure of the Justice system and takes matters into his own hand Including killing a man outright. I could easily see Doakes acting as a watchdog over Dexter to make sure he didn't take an innocent life or interfere with an investigation so he could claim a victim. That could have led to some pretty interesting situations. Really the only difference between Doakes and Dexter other than some of the squeamish finer details is the fact that Doakes had permission to kill people and Dexter didn't. And Dexter was in no way involved with killing Lundy. Lundy was killed by Arthur Mitchell's daughter because he was investigating Arthur. His death can't be linked to Dexter in any way. I'm guessing Clyde Phillips was hoping people wouldn't think about that when he threw that into New Blood. Laguarda and Deb you have a case for but I'm reluctant to take into consideration anything from those seasons because that's long after the show lost sight of what it was supposed to be. Hell I had stopped watching by then and I still haven't watched those episodes. I still won't. With Deb though again I can see how Dexter is responsible in some way but I am very reluctant to add other people's victims to his list. Firstly and most importantly because that absolves the people who actually killed them of responsibility. And secondly because if we start pulling on that thread then there are plenty of other heroes in other properties that suddenly become villains because their actions led to other people being harmed. Or their inactions which leads us to Rita. Firstly I never felt that Dexter needed punishment for the part he played in Rita's death because Rita's death was his punishment. And secondly I'd like to point out that Rita died because he didn't murder someone. His mistake wasn't targeting Trinity. It was getting too close to Trinity and letting him live. I also don't think it's fair to add Rita's children to that list. They certainly suffered for what happened to their mother but to say that's the end of it ignores the fact that Dexter, Astor and Cody all came to terms with the death of Rita and reconciled at the end of season 5. And because of that I think season 5 should have been the series finale. Season 5 was about him discovering that he actually did love Rita but he discovered it too late. And then he meets Lumen and for the first time he uses his Dark Passenger not to avenge the dead or satisfy his own needs but to show empathy and find peace for someone who's still alive. And in doing so he comes to terms with his grief for Rita and reconciles with the children. It would have been the perfect finale.

[@Brandon_Powell]

@@norm-bb3bb There are several actors in Dextra that I can't see them replacing. I think it's best they leave it be.

[@vida3814]

@@Brandon_Powell Sorry I can't answer all of your points because most of it doesn't make sense to me. I never said Lundy, Dexter killed Stan Liddy. What you said about Doakes is funny 😂 Dexter was supposed to be in the real world not a completely imaginary fantasy, where everyone helps him for chopping up criminals.

[@DCourtwreck]

Good point about this not being the same Dexter as he was in Miami. Although he is doing many of the same old tactics to blend in, the fact that Deb is now his inner voice and not Harry does indeed represent a shift in his personality. Back in season 6 when Dexter was visualizing Brian Moser he was wildly different.

[@georgeconstanza4177]

WOW YOU ARE RUMMYS CORNER!!!!. Finally found you. I've watched your Twin Peaks videos first. Then watched Rummys Corner and said wait a minute that voice sounds like the twin peaks guy. You rock man, keep it up!

[@downrightsuperb5690]

Also, I wonder why Harrison didn't try to reunite with Astor and Cody before he even learned that Dexter was alive.

[@99alfailiwaqain51]

Good question!

[@DezMarivette]

Yea that would be the only kind of spinoff I'd be interested in. But maybe he doesn't remember them at all! It's not like they were much involved after Rita died.

[@norm-bb3bb]

@@DezMarivette I think he would remember his siblings, I hope he goes with them after all this tragedy. His siblings loved him very much.

[@junie1017]

I know I was wondering the same thing, its really sad that is was never acknowledged that they are literally orphans because of Dexter..

[@chadross2240]

Also what about the GIANT plot hole of Kurt finding out that dexter killed his son???? Maybe I missed something but that made ZERO sense to me! Like he was able to piece it together because it was snowing ash outside which conveniently prompted him to go check the towns furnace for some reason. Then he conveniently found the metal pins which immediately prompted him to search the numbers on them to find out they were his sons because “why not”. And For some unknown reason Kurt immediately was able to link it all to Dexter just because he was “driving around that night”

[@rickybaillie4222]

He apparently seen the ash then went up to the Furness to investigate and he found the titanium bolt from his sons leg. Absolutely ridiculous

[@giftmpho876]

Yo this One bothered me a lot? thank u thank u

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

To me, what I always loved about Breaking Bad and Dexter watching them week by week, year by year (I was an OG viewer not a marathoner) was that I always knew it would end badly for them and they would never be taken alive.

[@tempo869]

Shouldn’t you be focusing on Michael 😕

[@romankozloski2290]

Whoa... it's really good screen writing at 16:13 for the writers to put Logan's blood on Dexter's hand right there because it draws a distinct parallel to Kurt's scar from his first kill on Iris.

[@reaper_go_gr1447]

I always will think of this whole season as THE movie finale, since it was filmed like a movie.

[@belialbradley222]

I'll give you credit. That was the most believable defense of the New Blood season. Too bad you weren't a writer on the series. You might have been able to make it so that episodes conveyed what you were explaining here! You read more into it than how they were able to present it to most fans.

[@stampscapes]

Really enjoy your vids! Thanks!

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

This season should have been tight, tight, tight! (in the storytelling). Imagine if Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould did this.

[@batgurrl]

Great work here, I was hoping you would change my mind about the end, but you didn’t, yes Dexter had to die and it seemed apparent Harrison would do it, but Dexter killing Logan in cold blood was out of character, Harrison now has to live the rest of his life knowing he killed his father. Angela lets a murderer (Harrison) leave town free and clear plus meddles with the crime scene. Her ‘solving’ the bay harbor butcher case was ridiculous. The season had far too many loose ends, plot holes and inconsistencies to even begin to list. Your ‘montage’ at the end was fantastic.

[@Brandon_Powell]

2:12 Big or small a red herring needs a payoff too. Otherwise it feels like a waste of time.

[@WowLynchWow]

Agreed. He was a completely useless red herring.

[@Coloradiohead]

I'm currently rewatching Twin Peaks the return for the 3rd time and still loving all those loose ends too, meanwhile....Dexter, new blood, I thought was a damn fine cup of murderous nostalgia I really missed and enjoyed.

[@TomerKrail]

Nice vid Geoffrey, I mostly agree with your take on things! I think the idea that Angela solving the case is 'too easy' is ridiculous, Dexter may have gotten away with the BHB by the skin of his teeth in season 2, but as soon as you find out that he's changed his identity and lied about so many things, and he's got connections to the case and some evidence that he's dabbled in murder, it's an easy connection to make. The only thing that sours it is the ketamine thing, I read in some behind the scenes thing that this is because M99 and Ketamine have been mixed up in real life but, eh. In terms of Edward Olson, my pet theory is that there was originally some cabal involved in the murder of the women, that was edited out for whatever reason. When Kurt is on the table, it seems like he's trying to awkwardly take responsibility for everything in a way that screams that he's covering something up. Maybe he was letting Olson and his rich friends erm, 'use' his collection? Anyhow, there are two main reasons for the backlash to the finale. One of them, which I am more sympathetic to, is the desire to see Dexter on the run for a few episodes/or a season. This is what many of us wanted back in the day, and maybe it would have been good in New Blood, but I think perhaps the ship sailed on that outcome back in the original run. The other reason is that, as you can see from some of the comments on this video is that many fans haven't come to terms with the fact that Dexter is not a good guy. As you point out, Dexter is not really a vigilante, he's a psycho who likes to kill people, he just happens to focus his rage on other killers. This nuance is at the heart of all the good series of the show and unfortunately, it's lost on the people who still him as a superhero. Anyway, great series of vids, made the viewing experience even better!

[@darthvegan435]

The most unbelievable part of the whole season was how a kid who was wrestling his first match was going to catch a kid who'd been to semi-state the previous year (and more heavily muscled to boot) in a headlock... ridiculous... no chance...

[@averys.a.htenma3569]

As a long time viewer, I’ve always enjoyed your videos. Got into your channel due to your Twins Peaks & other David Lynch related videos. Keep up the great work!

[@DezMarivette]

Thank you for this brilliant blow by blow!! I understand the ire of the community - They brought Dexter back to break our hearts all over again, but the other complaints are all over the place. This Dexter only seems out of character because the audience didn't expect him to have changed at all in the last ten years. The audience is expecting him to be following a code he abandoned a decade ago. This audience was mislead right from the start. The writers had a story they wanted to tell, but they fed it to the community as though this would be an epic comeback. Instead it was devastating. That being said, I think we the audience have also struggled not only to grieve this character, but recognize that just because we love a monster doesn't make them any less monstrous! He was charming and handsome and if he didn't only kill bad guys, many of us would have been lured right into his trap! But especially thank you for emphasizing Angela and her ability to put the puzzle pieces together. Don't underestimate a small town cop! They have nothing but time and attention span to notice inconsistent details!

[@DezMarivette]

@Melissa Faye Dexter tells us in every single episode that he is a monster. It’s up to use to believe him. Yes he is traumatized. He also enjoys tearing flesh, splashing blood and breaking bones on a regular basis. He was definitely turned into an experiment but the simple fact his idea of stress relief is pretty gory and horrific.

[@ghostface9702]

@Melissa Faye He is a monster though. It’s not like he genuinely wants justice for victims and to make sure people aren’t harmed again. He loves killing, he loves tearing limb by limb apart, he loves putting them in bags and dumping it. It didn’t matter whether Harry taught him the code or not, he still would’ve killed whether it was innocent people or criminals. The Code is just a fake reason for killing. Now I’m not saying it’s his fault for the darkness put inside him, he literally watched his mother get chopped up into pieces. The show definitely did a good job into fooling fans into believing Dexter is a good guy. I also don’t blame you or the fans. I was pretty fooled into believing that Dexter was a great guy who cleaned up the streets but he’s not. He’s not a great guy. He just loves killing. It’s interesting how the show was able to fool us so badly though.

[@masonschwalm2010]

16:00 Just realized they did the opposite of Breaking Bad’s ending. Walt wanted Jesse to kill him but he wouldn’t do it. He knew that was what Walt wanted and that he had already been fatally wounded and so Jesse, sick of being manipulated, refused to give him the satisfaction. I thought that Harrison was going to refuse as well and finally break the cycle, as a way of saying “I’m not like you.”

[@toromontana8290]

Thinking about it now, it would make the ending 25% better if Harrison simply shot him in the leg. Dexter begs him to finish the job, Harrison tells him "No, you're going to stand trial".

[@masonschwalm2010]

@@toromontana8290 I like that! Yeah and besides demonstrating that he’s not like him and can control the darkness it’s not giving him the easy way out (or I should say easier compared to the alternatives at that moment).

[@vida3814]

@@masonschwalm2010 We didn't get to know anything from Harrison's past and that wasn't the focus of the season, they wanted to wrap-up Dexter's life story. I always imagined that he is not normal because of how good he lied and made a scene that destroyed Ethan's life and made him a hero. We loved Dexter, I couldn't see him standing a trial, or even facing Batista, he was always ahead of the police.

[@fifa4lifeunknow795]

Wait people wanted Jesse to kill him

[@Anthonycheesman2024]

I thought it ended how it should have .

[@mardimorillo]

Finally, I thought I was the only one who actually liked this lol I agree so much with all your thoughts here… on another note I await your BCS season 6 videos haha

[@downrightsuperb5690]

Angela is one of my all-time favorite Dexter characters ever. I liked Dexter New Blood. One of my favorite seasons. I wonder if people who didn't like it would have just preferred the original ending to be left alone over this.

[@toromontana8290]

I think Angela was too much of a Mary Sue and it wasn't believable that a small cop town could crack the case so easily. She should have played a crucial role in Dexter's downfall, but Dexter is a formidable opponent. There should not have been 1 character who takes him down, but multiple characters and events beyond Dexter's full control. Molly should have played a bigger role and should have been in town only for the BHB case. Just have Angela arrest Matt's friend, he spills the beans that Matt killed 5 people, Molly who never believed Doakes was the BHB is interested to learn more. Maybe you could say Kurt played a role in Dexter's downfall, but it doesn't feel like it's enough. Angela googling shit was LOL, go for the official BHB reports, you're a cop! Bring back Quinn as an FBI agent, he was suspicious of Dexter and almost certainly knew he was the BHB by the end of Season 8 if he didn't since Season 5. Have that oil billionaire Ed Olsen be a big bad and independently discover through his own resources that Jim=Dexter=BHB when he investigates who killed Kurt, who we'll say is his pet. Make Olsen the true mastermind behind the runaways with Kurt killing the women and Olsen producing snuff films for the Dark Web. Angela herself should have experienced some adversity before being vindicated about Dexter in the end, maybe she arrests Dexter at one point but has to let him go because there's no evidence and it impacts badly on her career because nobody believes her at first, that sort of thing.

[@downrightsuperb5690]

@@toromontana8290 She wasn't a Mary Sue. She was just in the right place at the right time. If anybody found out that Dexter started a new life, they could put 2 and 2 together. She was a good cop and she did her job. If anything, she screwed everything up by losing Dexter in the end.

[@toromontana8290]

@@downrightsuperb5690 That may be the case, but that's just bad writing then. The BHB case was not solved for 30 years. It took 15 years for them to even discover that someone was killing criminals and for 15 years they had the case closed with the wrong guy as the culprit. Does this seem like a case that a small town cop can solve within 2 weeks? And almost by herself? Dexter might have escaped her, but he was done either way. What was he going to do, run to LA where his face would be all over the news and people take selfies constantly?

[@downrightsuperb5690]

@@toromontana8290 Was Molly a Mary Sue because she doubted Doakes was the BHB without any help and against everybody else's opinion? She was banging Dexter and found out that he had a totally separate life/identity years ago. She didn't just figure out some random case out of nowhere.

[@toromontana8290]

@@downrightsuperb5690 Far from it in Molly's case. Her hunch about the BHB was correct, but she never made any progress on that case. She didn't even recognize Jim as Dexter despite hints that she may have seen him before. (Not 100% confirmed, but her show did feature a photo of Rita, cropped from her wedding photo. So is she not good with faces or does she have a staff to handle the little details so she's never seen the original photo?) She had other flaws as well that disqualified her from the Mary Sue box. She seems to be easily tricked by dangerous criminals (Dexter saved her and warned her about Kurt, yet Kurt still killed her later anyway.) Part of her success relied on an army of amateur detectives on social media so it's not even clear how good she was on her own. She died without solving any mystery in Iron Lake.

[@8bitmagic]

I think the ending is pretty incoherent and sloppy as a whole, but it's definitely more engaging than season 8. I enjoyed a lot of it but I can't say I'm left satisfied. I desired the Dexter faces justice ending, but even if they went with a Harrison takes down Dexter ending it could've been done better ... Coz now Harrison is just about as messed up as Dexter but gets a pass. Lol

[@PlanetSledge]

Kurt Caldwell: "I'm worried about you, Chief." Dexter: I'm worried about you" I've been waiting to see those two scenes put together.

[@Son-Of-David1990]

They could also redeem it by going off of dexter and harrisons plan to go to LA (which is why that huge cliffhanger of him ending up somewhere tropical) would be perfect to reflect back more In their plan and dexter has a bulletproof vest on and fake blood bag to burst on his back to look dead which is why dexter pointed at a specific spot to shoot. Season 2 opens up with ang over dexter trying to observe him and have him just stick her with ketamine so he can hide her somewhere to show her he's not a bad guy like he told Deb she'd come around and when ang says he killed logan then he says "no I just hit a pressure point to slow his heart rate down" as he knows jiu jitsu and logan can come back and he can convince her he's good. Then have her mention that Bautisa is coming to town to look for you and he will find you. Then boom season 2 kicks off!

[@beyondz55]

I thought it was the best season since 4. I get why some fans are upset and coping with the ending, but to me there was no other good way to end an Anti Hero. Do ppl think Anti Heroes deserve a Heros Journey Ending? They need to check their own morals and ethics. Its fantasy, and we identified with a protagonist that did some evil shit.

[@beyondz55]

He broke harrys codes because of the love for his son, and the love clouded his judgement. Its poetically tragic.

[@kevinsantillans7415]

Evil according to what? Don't forget that morals and ethics aren't inherent to human nature, but a social construction. If anything, that's the more interesting part of Dexter series, that ambiguity. If you take an objective look, Dexter (even if his reasons were not guided by good intentions) made his world a better one (safer one), cleaning people who only wanted to make innocents suffer.

[@TheRaider1815]

Dexter dying is fine, but the way they actually executed it was rushed and sloppy. Also this ending is a cheap ripoff of Breaking Bad's ending

[@jpeg204]

But this is the issue, sure he’s an antihero and he needs to face his consequences, but this is not what people wanted, they wanted to see Dexter get taken down by the Miami metro crew, this death just doesn’t feel right, the concept isn’t awful but it could’ve been written in a much better way. In terms of overall direction, themes, messages, and character development it seems like Dexter stagnated after season 4 and this season didn’t really break that pattern, it just doesn’t feel right.

[@beyondz55]

@@jpeg204 that's a great point about miami metro...ultimately the show was already flawed and botched the ends of the arcs in Miami, so that was always going to be clunky.

[@toromontana8290]

A Harrison spin-off works better if he becomes a private investigator and the FBI requests his help to catch a BHB copycat killer in a major city.

[@diogosimao]

I liked this ...

[@campscudder]

Are you saying you don’t think Season 8 of GOT was rushed?

[@WowLynchWow]

Yes and no. I thought some aspects were rushed in the sense that the fast traveling came into play, where previously journeys from A to B were long and arduous. But in the context most people claim things were rushed, in particular with Daenerys, then no - I didn't think her parts were rushed, where many fans were complaining about a lack of character development. At that point in the story, it was about resolution of the conflicts, not character development which we had gotten for 7+ seasons.

[@Ian-ev5tg]

There is a huge time gap at the end. Angela sends the photo to angel at 11.45pm. The email timestamp tells us this. She then interviews Dexter and immediately leaves to find the bunker. Dexter escapes almost immediately after, we know this because Angela calls the other cop and asks if he's heard from logan on the last hour....she must have only been gone an hour at most. Yet Dexter tells harrison to hurry, sun's coming up......what, at 1am? The next scene Angela is back at the station and finds logan, it's still dark. Could only be 2am if she was an hour away. The sun rises in upstate new york on December 26th at 7.15am. So where did 5 to 6 hours go? And how did Angela find Dexter? I know he took a police car. Which could be how she tracked the car, but that goes against the time delay as Dexter making his way to harrison if he drove most of the way. But Angela then took 5 hours to get there?

[@thomasretzke228]

I think when the dust settles, people will be a lot more kind to this season of Dexter.

[@toromontana8290]

I guess we'll see. Season 8 frankly was terrible, almost no redeeming qualities that I can think of. Plot all over the place, like some 8 year old retard wrote a bad fanfic. New Blood had the potential to be an amazing crime drama set in a small town, but had several flaws that dragged it down to average level at best. New Blood is actually better if you never watched S1-8 because it turns Dexter into a sloppy idiot. It's actually more enjoyable if you have no idea who Dexter is.

[@thomasretzke228]

@@toromontana8290 they did say they didn’t want to make Dexter season 9, but more of a stand-alone thing, maybe that mindset wasn’t what fans wanted.

[@toromontana8290]

@@thomasretzke228 If that's the case, just make a new series about a serial killer who's in hiding and who is not Dexter. It would then at least make sense why he faked his death because when Dexter did it, we was not under investigation. He could have just skipped town, legally changed his name and Hannah and Harrison would not have found him anyway because they had no resources to.

[@brendangray]

Nope!

[@cherylcarpenter4698]

I would of loved another season of Dexter

[@travisgray8376]

Love Ur Dexter videos wouldn't complain if U did more I'll watch them.

[@danielpease641]

You seriously need to pitch that idea to the guys. They'd love it.

[@ninja644]

As always your takes are spot on! I loved your dissection of the criticisms and your rebuttal. I enjoyed the entire season and the finale. As most of the comment section is saying, I agree it's not better than Season 1-4 of Dexter, but better than 5-8. Also, one minor pet peeve of mine is that we never got any real resolution on what happened with Hannah. I know Harrison made some off-hand comments, but I think we deserve a bit more.

[@vida3814]

We didn't get to know anything from Harrison's past and that wasn't the focus of the season, they wanted to wrap-up Dexter's life story. I think we can imagine that Harrison is not normal because of how good he lied and made a scene that destroyed Ethan's life and made him a hero😬 They probably left that out for an opportunity of another season. I personally would prefer another movie/season if it's back in Miami, some of the old cast members trying to find out how Dexter did what he did for so long.

[@michaelblaine6494]

It would’ve worked as a pay off if they didn’t have Angel say “I’m on my way”. That was the problem

[@aqwaya9584]

Well done! I agree (the most important) 95%

[@naomiheyy]

Finally someone explained everything. So sick of people complaining about that things.

[@AaronTheDogMMA]

Needed a spoonfeeding 😂

[@fantasiazplatkami]

I cannot agree Dexter is just a monster. Another thing is that Dexter and Harrison did not really bond well. I just didnt think giving up his life for this kid to be free of his father would be something Dexter would do.

[@rickf]

Wow someone who actually agrees with me that the finale was decent, despite the overall issues with the season.

[@sean1024]

Great video. I am in complete agreement with your critiques, your praise, and your befuddlement at the backlash.

[@adamlegros1180]

I love how honest u are about dexter. No matter how much it looks like he cares- hes a lying selfish creep, who just wants to chop people up and believes he should be allowed to

[@bingewatcherfanatic996]

You really have a good point

[@williamstanley5900]

The good? Michael C Hall is and has always been EXCELLENT. Despite the mixed reception, he deserves another Emmy

[@norm-bb3bb]

Another? I wish, this would be his first Emmy, I hope he finally wins his Emmy

[@williamstanley5900]

@@norm-bb3bb You’re kidding, he’s never won one?

[@norm-bb3bb]

@@williamstanley5900 Sadly, he never won an Emmy, I hope this time he can finally win

[@calebjanus2000]

I mean does a vet have M99 or do they have ketamine?

[@Ajz092]

I'm baffled that anyone likes this ending at all. I think you're literally the only person on the planet that thinks so other than the writers. I was able to effectively counter each and every one of your points as to why you thought was good. Of course I'm not going to do that because it'd take way too much time, and no one would read it anyway. Instead, I urge you to watch other people's opinions on why this is easily one of the weakest seasons of Dexter as a whole. There are many instances of off characterization, plot holes, lose ends, rushed scenes, forced scenes, plot convenience, and inconsistencies though out the show. Watch the original series again and seriously analyze his character, then jump right into New Blood. You'll find that there are way more things wrong with it than good.

[@TheRaider1815]

He probably got paid by Clyde Phillips to post this video

[@naomiheyy]

How was Lundy Dexter's victim?

[@toromontana8290]

That part I don't remember myself, I'd need to rewatch. Maybe the show was trying to say that if Dexter killed Trinity earlier, Trinity's estranged daughter wouldn't have shot Lundy?

[@spittinvenom9671]

He wasn’t

[@TheRaider1815]

The entire Dexter New Blood ending is a cheap ripoff of Breaking Bad's ending. Harrison freaking out about Dexter killing Logan, is exactly like Skyler freaking out about Walter and Hank in Ozymandias. And then the main character (Walter/Dexter) dies while their accomplice/apprentice (Harrison/Jesse) escapes in a car. It is so bad I would argue that it borders on unprofessional standards or even plagiarism.

[@frankhuizar9171]

People that were disappointed probably aren’t true fans of the series. I loved it!

[@toromontana8290]

It's average at best. So many missed opportunities and several inconsistencies with the original series. New Blood is actually better as a standalone for people who never watched S1-8 and just wanna watch a small town crime drama.

[@spittinvenom9671]

It’s unremarkable and makes a mockery of the source material. Your argument is circular.

[@DominarRygel-XVI]

It seemed like Harrison killed him for all the wrong reasons. Especially after saying maybe you deserve the death penalty. That and somehow Molly didn’t realize who Dexter was but she used Dex and Rita’s wedding photo for her podcast thumbnail. Can honestly only laugh at it at this point. It was pretty good until the end. Still better than the lumberjack ending back in the day.

[@anti-nephilimgovernmentage5471]

Having Harrison kill Dexter is such a let down. Totally the worst possible, most obvious ending they could have gone with. I'd have preferred seeing Harrison being unable to kill Dexter, and instead knocking him out with the butt of the gun and having him arrested. Then the next season could have been about his court cases, seeing his case play out while also looking at his life in jail/death row. We could have closure with the whole cast, and we could still get to see Dexter work with his dark passenger to take out convicts/guards until he's convicted and sentenced to death. Maybe he could have an Ace lawyer as well who even gets him out on bail at the beginning of his arrest so he can have a few more kills/try to stop those who have key pieces of information tying him to the BHB. I think they wasted Harrison as the anti-Dexter, and instead had him become what Dexter wanted all along, a killer. You say it's a redemption, I say it's a slap/spit in our face instead of a goodbye. Harrison was an innocent baby at the end of the previous Dexter series, and now he's a broken young man and a killer (who killed an unarmed man who posed no threat to him) just like Dad always wanted. In fact, Dexter got exactly what he wanted, a way out of facing true Justice, and his son becoming a killer. This ending is disgusting!

[@bugsymalone5744]

Drama queen

[@toromontana8290]

A trial season would have been interesting to watch, but he shouldn't have killed Logan that way then. No judge is going to grant bail in case where there's strong evidence that the suspect killed a cop to break out of jail. So make the Logan kill less obvious, maybe the FBI want Dexter in the bunker to explain to them something, Logan is tasked with transporting Dexter, Dexter causes the car to crash but there's plausible deniability because it all looks like a traffic accident. The Logan murder charge doesn't stick for long, which only makes Angela angrier who's almost certain Dexter killed him.

[@anti-nephilimgovernmentage5471]

@@bugsymalone5744 you mad you weren't smart enough to see how the writers screwed us and took literally the cheapest way out? Lol.

[@bugsymalone5744]

@@anti-nephilimgovernmentage5471 That's what you come up with? You sound like a very frustrated person.

[@anti-nephilimgovernmentage5471]

@@bugsymalone5744 No, you're right, you're the rational one, talking down to me because of my opinion of an ending that isn't an obvious cop-out. Good job being so witty with your insult of "drama queen". Maybe work on not being triggered by opinions, dunce.

[@thanatos_0.]

Excellent video! Sadly, I don't think many of the people that need to hear this are going to. :/

[@thanatos_0.]

...I mean, these people are holding out hope that Dexter somehoe survived that shot and another season is coming in a matter of years...

[@youtubegoogleb]

i personally loved it

[@zeeski7454]

Me too

[@madden5508]

U missed one what about him dating the chief??

[@spittinvenom9671]

The good: they tried The bad: they f’d it again

[@stadthaus.7266]

I disagree regarding the end of new blood, but I appreciate your opinion and the effort and entertaining value you put into this video

[@WowLynchWow]

Thank you very much. Cheers!

[@001spring]

M99 (elephant tranquilizer)is not easy to get in the sticks? Lol

[@dianehenkel9088]

The season was sloppy writing to introduce a spin-off with Harrison.

[@idefyseven]

I happy to agree with everything you're saying. I felt like this show redeemed Dexter as a series

[@BenchSitter]

Geoffrey I really expected more of a reaction to Dexter saying about the coffee ☕️👀 I mean… It’s a weird synchronicity right?

[@johnhowell7687]

This was laughably bad...I will go on pretending the 1st horrible ending was the series finale because as bad as it was it was still better than this New Blood junk! Policing was beyond terrible and with what was presented to us there's is less than a zero percent chance Dexter would hv ever even seen a trial, much less convicted on Matt Caldwell case. And as bad as those connections were there was an even more futile chance to convict him as the BHB. Dexter was uber smart and there's no way in the world he would have stooped to killing an innocent when he knew he'd be released soon anyway. And where was the dire need to get out? Making it seem like he had to get to Harrison... Why? He had food & a place to stay. Kurt was dead, so he wasn't in danger. It just made no sense for him to try to escape.

[@TheMelindaZombie]

I tuned in to almost all ur videos on this show and they were entertaining so thank you for that. This video feels like you’re trying to convince the people (like me) who hated the ending that they’re wrong. You explained everything, which we all saw because we watched the series. I prefer season 8 ending over this one, even tho it was a fantastic season, except the last 15-20 mins. In my mind, Dexter got away and is living in seclusion from everyone he’s ever cared about, as a lumberjack.

[@bigdaddychacha]

I don’t 100% agree with you on everything, but I feel like you’re closer to right than most of the Dexter spin-off haters out there. Dexter was never a totally realized serial killer; there were always aspects of his schtick that I didn’t buy. But at the end of the day, serial killers tend to spiral out of control and become much less careful if their killings continue long enough, and especially if they continue long enough and involve decade-long breaks in activity. Everybody saying, “The Dexter we all know would have never done X!!!1” seem to be ignoring the normal trajectory of an unchecked serial killer. Look at BTK: out of action for a decade or so, he starts flirting with coming out of retirement, and, boom, he slips up in some really stupid ways and now he’s doing time in jail! Also, Dexter intentionally killing an innocent person in cold blood finally gave us an answer to the central question that the show had been toying with and avoiding answering throughout the entire original run: was Dexter a good guy doing unpleasant things to people who all inarguably deserved it or was he a basic sociopathic serial killer who had charmed America with plausible explanations for his depravity? When the answer turned out to be the later, a lot of fans seemed to be outraged. But the reality is, the original run of the show utterly avoided its basic responsibility to eventually resolve that question one way or the other. That was clearly one of the justifications for even having this sequel series. Now, I do think there were major pacing issues in this season; Harrison’s development was really uneven and I don’t think they fully explained him turning on his father, but…they had one season to give us a conclusion! They had a lot of stuff to do. Killing Dexter was certainly a kind of cop-out and precludes any further exploration, which is frustrating. The oil baron guy being a complete red herring and then unceremoniously disappearing from the show was bizarre. The “I got shot in the leg with a high powered rifle one episode but we will never mention it again the very next day and I’ll be walking around like normal the very next day” was insane garbage; if I stub my toe badly enough, I’m limping for a couple days, let alone a bullet wound! But I think the creators achieved most of what they set out to achieve in a largely smooth manner. It wasn’t a perfect season; it wasn’t up there with The Wire or The Sopranos or even The Shield; but it remained quintessentially Dexter, which was never that serious of a show to begin with. Also, I agree: Masouka and Quinn are the two original characters from the original show who desperately need more screen time. Masouka could absolutely carry his own spin-off, I would absolutely be there for that.

[@beverleygray4219]

Your right n Ted bundy is another careful killer who after being in prison for 2 years escapes and goes on a binge killing very sloppy attacks compared to his earlier more planned kills. Dexter was the same stopped for 10 years n return to binge slopy kills.

[@debbiemcnamara7059]

Why did she get a creepy vivi from Dexter; he just saved her life. Molly was so dumb she went back to Kirk and he killed her.

[@99alfailiwaqain51]

Because that’s what “Silly Girls are made of”!!

[@debbiemcnamara7059]

I was being serious, about this. I did research papers about the Gulf War. I also wrote about James Joyce’s writing. I intrepid his writing. I have been Al over the United States, Europe, and Asia. I know how to write. Clyde can not write very well. His books do not sell and he never wrote any part of Dexter until Dexter New Blood. I know because I worked in TV production for 18 years. I know good work when I see it. If it was not for COVID I would be to busy for this.

[@TheVioletBunny]

Agreed she was a moronic character.

[@lamo1724]

I'm with you 100%! I didn't like that Dexter guided Harrison to make the kill shot. But, you're absolutely right...this ending just cemented what a selfish / self centred monster Dexter always was. I didn't like that he'd ruined Harrison's future, but not liking Dexter was why I continued watching in hopes he'd be made to Pay the Piper xxx

[@lamo1724]

...and I think the use of Ketamine in Iron Lake, not his usual M99 ties in with your theory that he's an addict leaping off the wagon. He'd dedicated time and resources to obtaining M99 from one law enforcement agency whilst hidden within another law enforcement agency. When his thirst for new blood overtook him as you describe, he has to find an M99 alternative that is accessible from within his community at Iron Lake xxx

[@giftmpho876]

How Did Kurt Caldwell figure out Dexter killed his Son Matt? thats the biggest question

[@orwoodwellson685]

It's been a while since I've seen it, but I believe when Dexter cremated him the son had metal in his body from an injury, so the metal wouldn't burn, and Kurt found it

[@chadross2240]

I understand your points BUT the level of suspension of disbelief you have to have to believe Angela’s can crack the BHB case in such a short period of time is INSANE! Like the entire plot line is full of super convenient plot points that could happen only like 1 in a million chances. All this “information” she was fed was so forced it made it so hard to believe.

[@Ian-ev5tg]

Is Johnny knoxville narrating this thing?

[@Squishy876]

Harrison had been itching to kill someone so Dexter sacrificing himself made some sense but it would have been more satisfying if anyone else has liked him

[@nickswettenhammusic]

To tease a Batista and Dexter confrontation but not following it through is unforgivable!

[@jeff21killersep54]

The writing isn’t amazing at all, there was a bigger build up to dexter admitting he’s a serial killer to Harrison than there was to Harrison killing Dexter. It was the worst ending ever needed to be another 2 or 4 episodes at least

[@jangravityhollyer532]

spot on!!!

[@GlowVolve]

I just wanna forget that new blood ever came out. Was satisfied enough with the s8 end

[@samanthalake5011]

I like to hear different points of view. 👍🏽

[@TheWisestWizards]

I like your idea for a sequel. I have no interest in seeing more Harrison.

[@Dral.09]

I'm good with it too. Fans don't know what they want... just crying babies

[@toromontana8290]

Well, you're definitely wrong on that, I have a pretty elaborate theory on how they could have written the story to please the fans, I posted it on FanFiction if you wanna read it cause it's too long for KZbin comments. To sum it up, more than anything the fans wanted closure, so this season should have been about what Dexter has been doing for the past 10 years, where he is at right now, what happened to other characters, and ultimately, Dexter being finally exposed as the BHB and seeing everyone who knew him react to that. And going out with a bang regardless if he died, got arrested and sent to prison or something far more crazy and over-the-top happened like being recruited by the CIA as an assassin, spared a fate of life in prison or death. Many issues with other characters remained unsolved, for example, what did Miami Metro characters do about Debra's sudden disappearance? What happened to Elway, Batista, Quinn, Masuka and others? Did Quinn know Dexter was the BHB and, if so, what was his motivation for tolerating his behavior? Did that change with Debra's disappearance? Quinn in New Blood could have made an interesting friend/foe to Dexter with his grey moral compass.

[@toromontana8290]

Another thing the fans don't want is a character hyped as a potential villain (maybe the most dangerous Dexter has faced) only for him to disappear. I'm talking about Ed Olsen. He could have worked very well as Kurt's handler with a much darker conspiracy involved, maybe some snuff film production racket for the Dark Web or whatever.

[@Dral.09]

I'm not saying this was the only way. It was not perfect but it was OK to GOOD!! I It makes sence, he is a cold blood killer, he his making mistakes/disrespect the code a lot more. And he would never want to be in prison, at the same Time he knows he fits his own code so Harrison is the best way( even to spice or calm down Harrison dark passeger)

[@toromontana8290]

@@Dral.09 Harrison killing Dexter is not something I mind actually. I pretty much predicted they would go that route, but the execution could have been better.

[@Dral.09]

@Toro Montana this is a loop, that's what people always say. If you scripted this season in your perfect way, guess what... Half of the Internet would say "disapointing or could be better" even if its good

[@RBGStudiosVlogs]

I Loved New Blood! Everything I wanted.

[@Ian-ev5tg]

Harrisons age is wrong according to the timeline of the show. He should be 12

[@krazikofiman]

Totally in agreement!

[@j0hnc00]

Gotta respectfully disagree Rummy, the final 20 minutes of new blood episode 10 were unforgivable. Dexter killing logan was out of character - I loved everything about the season barring the final 20 minutes. I wasn't expecting a happy ending but throwing away all the juicy plotlines for the Logan ending ruined the experience.

[@rickf]

They mentioned on the official podcast that killing Logan wasn't intentional. Dexter overreacted (or maybe just reacted) to the gun being fired at him. Regardless, I DO think it would have been in character to kill him. Dexter's gone off code before, and at this point he was a cornered animal and willing to do anything to get away. Maybe its a bit of a stretch, but it's a better explanation than why the bullet wound in his leg was miraculously healed the next episode lol

[@toromontana8290]

@@rickf Season 1 Dexter would have just waited for a lawyer to bail him out, they had no case. Most they could have charged him with was identity fraud, but there were a number of ways to play that off: Memory loss from the hurricane, mental breakdown etc.

[@spittinvenom9671]

IMHO he reacted to the gunshot and squeezed tightly.

[@hagerdhotrodz]

Fans: "That was completely out of character of Dexter to kill Logan!" Wrong: End of season 2, he framed Dotes who didn't fit the code at all. Beginning of season 3, he accidentally killed Prodo's little brother who didn't fit the code, Wich was his first realization and he felt genuinely bad about. But slowly throughout the rest of the first 8 seasons, he had moments were innocent people got killed either directly by him, or because of his actions, and his remorse for the innocent losses became less and less. And after a 10 year sobatical knowing he was cought, he panicked and killed recklessly to get away.

[@toromontana8290]

He seemed pretty in control, if he simply waited there's a good chance the DA would have just said "nah, Angie, you have no case again, try harder next time"

[@diogosimao]

I hate the writers resolved Doakes problem with Lila because we could not see what Dexter decision at that scenario would be like. "Oh Dexter didnt kill Doakes" people claime now... yes.. because Lila was a convienient way out for the situation for the writers at the time.

[@toromontana8290]

Harrison as a BHB copycat wouldn't be believable. I don't think they're going that route but who knows. It could be a cash grab.

[@mariaa.5829]

Yeah, an accident as in Logan made Dexter/Jim kill him (Logan) by not complying.

[@AliceBlackwood]

I started to watch your video in hopes maybe you can change my mind about the ending, but I had to stop at 9:42, after you started to justify and defend the biggest, dumbest plot hole in the show. Miss Sherlock Holmes' aka Angela's BHB investigation ... Dextrer's Iron Lake victims didn't even fit into the BHB profile, there was no pattern to tie him to the Miami murders BECAUSE Matt as far as Angela knew was an innocent man (the boat thing was an accident and he didn't even drive), Miles was a criminal but not a murderer and the same goes for Jasper. The BHB killed killers in Miami that was his modus operandi, his trademark - Angela's conclusion felt forced, unnatural. Oh, 2 random poeple died in my town!! ONLY the BHB comes to mind as a suspect,,? really? Why? I know ... for the sake of the PLOT. I'm jealous that you enjoyed, I wanted to feel the same way.

[@diogosimao]

I think that the missing piece of the puzzle here is Dexter. The similarities between her case and Miami case were the M99/Ketamine and the wheel marks (for the sake of the argument, let's assume they are the same). These two things, alone, are not sufficient for anything. But then...Dexter is a link. If you have murdered people with M99/Ketamine and wheel marks in Miami, and if you have murdered people with M99/Ketamine and wheel marks in Iron Lake, and if the same person who was in Miami is in Iron Lake...and if you just have been told that Dexter was a suspect in the BHB case...well... you just need to put one and one together at this point.

[@diogosimao]

Off course you can say wheel marks doesn't endure and all of that...but neither embalmed corps, for instance. If you go for a "this in real life wouldnt happened" argument, well...then the whole show needs to fall apart to, you know.

[@jpeg204]

This series (Dexter original and new blood) had so much potential, the concept is just so great in terms of actual plot and the moral conflict that the audience goes through, but I feel like they never really knew where to go with it in terms of an overall theme or message, or where to take Dexters development, and it left it feeling kind of stagnant throughout. Don’t get me wrong the series was great seasons 1-4, and the rest was entertaining enough, but it could’ve potentially been one of the best series ever made if they just took the time to plan it out and figure out their goals with the show, that’s where my disappointment comes from.

[@WowLynchWow]

Agreed 100%. The first 4 seasons were gold, and then things were never the same after they killed Rita off. The rest was, as you said "entertaining enough", but the potential of what could have been was never fully realized.

[@denisewyatt1877]

100% agree! Except I’m here for a Harrison spin-off.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Wow people are never pleased. I thought it was a pretty solid final season and an amazing penultimate episode although the finale left a bit to be desired yet still delivered for me.

[@calebjanus2000]

I mean you just said it. The finale left a bit to be desired. THAT is what people are saying. It was ok.

[@travisgray8376]

This is my ranking now sorry it's different to everyone else. 9. Season 8 8. Season 6 7. Season 5 6. Season 7 5. Season 3 4. New Blood 3. Season 2 2. Season 1 1. Season 4

[@liznaz8253]

Who stole the pecan pies??? Lol!

[@Brandon_Powell]

Logan. He deserved what he got all along.

[@toromontana8290]

I think Olsen did, what greedy motherfucker. No wonder he wasn't seen for the last 7 episodes. Skipped town with the pies and got away it. Perfect candidate for a big bad / Code kill. Someone probably died starving because of him!

[@GiftSparks]

Terrific analysis. The problem was that Harrison was a thoroughly unlikeable character. Therefore the ending didn’t have the same impact. I liked Angela and felt that she did a great job given the additional information she had that no one else did. She was the closest person to Dexter and was able to connect the dots in a way no one else could.

[@norm-bb3bb]

I didn't find Harrison unlikable, he was just a teenager with many problems behind his back before meeting Dexter, he was in foster homes, he was almost raped, he did drugs, Harrison lived a hell before meeting Dexter, I felt sorry for him, I hope he can have his happy ending unlike his father and uncle.

[@rickybaillie4222]

The original series had 12 episodes and this new one needed them 2 episode's

[@debbiemcnamara7059]

I read all

[@Brandon_Powell]

10:25 That's a fair point but It's not something I personally enjoyed.

[@99alfailiwaqain51]

Peace; Bergen County’s Finest!!! I must disagree with you Batista & Dexter needed at least 2-3 minutes screen time. I believe the payoff would have been solidified on screen between the two. The fans wanted to peruse the reaction of his step children; former colleagues; etc! The finale was rushed and they owed us 2 hours to wrap this series. Im good with Dexter’s demise; it’s the methods used to get there. Actually Dexter did vet Matt. Remember Logan ran his ID and it didn’t come back squeaky clean? Combine that with the confession from his friend at the party. Lastly I believe Harrison set up Dexter to some degree. Who wrote the note Jim Lindsay killed Matt Caldwell. Yo your ending was awesome; kudos!

[@ImStayGold42]

"I have no major issues w Dexter: NB" ...makes video detailing major issues w Dexter: NB 😅💉

[@LaughnCry27]

Your idea with Kurt being a citizen and becoming a monster after Dexter kills his son would've been amazing

[@dawnssound]

I appreciate this explanation. I can see it now. But the show didn't execute these points well. Maybe too much time trying to trick and play picaboo with the audience.

[@issamelsayd]

What a great analysis

[@ilayohana3150]

The funny part about this video is how you argue with yourself and lose on the "super cop angela" part. she may not be a "super cop", but theres clearly too much forced plot direction, you say so yourself, shes just told everything she needs to be told very conveniently for no good reason. Harrison tells her he lies about his identity, the bs needle mark thing, which is so unrelated and general its ridiculous(why would you link that some corpses from miami when youre in upper new york? besides theres probably a plethora of occasions in which it happened even in miami unrelated to dexter), but my favorite is definitely molly just "got a weird vibe" from dexter, and essentially contributed nothing of substance to her, just some sort of admittance from the show writers they had no idea what to do there to keep the tension. realistically she wouldnt have figured it out and dexter would have killed her anyway, which is easily my biggest problem. strangely i watched new blood before dexter, and i gotta say from this perspective its definitely inconsistent. even putting aside how reckless and crude dexter is, especially considering the meticulous methods he uses in the original show, where he lives nothing to chance including if it means killing(or at least imprisoning) an innocent. other than that he was just plain stupid, dexter isnt an animal lacking self control, he never was. even when he did lose it he still managed to get it together and as he put it *instinctively* cover up his crimes (take for example s4e1 where hes so tired he doesnt remember what he does with a corpse but still perfectly hides it, and thats in crowded urban miami). in a different episode you said dexter is a monster, and i agree, bt the thing is that so is dexter. throughout the whole show he emphasizes that fact, which is why its so strange hes suddenly in denial of it now and trying to look like batman. dexter always said how he doesnt want to pass down his passenger to his son(repeated frequently in season 6) and essentially all throughout the show, he shows self loathing, often talking in his monologues about how he would deserve an execution, how hes a monster etc. with that said, if you take him for his word which is objective and critical of himself, hes a neat monster, not the goofball serial killer new blood had who leaves corpses as a staged crime or cremates them in the f*cking town square. thats not dexter and i dont consider it as such, and im not alone. theres a reason 90% of dexter viewers were dissapointed by new blood and youre missing it.