DF Retro: Gunbuster vs Wolfenstein 3D - How 1992 Revolutionised The FPS

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Haven't heard of Gunbuster, or Operation Gunbuster? We're not surprised. It's an arcade shooter from 1992 released mere months after Wolfenstein 3D re-architected the first-person shooter on PC. The thing is... there's a lot of commonality here in terms of presentation, movement and control with the key difference coming down to technology. Gunbuster's entire presentation is based on sprites, a dead-end technology for the FPS revolution to come but in 1992? It was the Wild West and anything was possible.
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@Renk1
@Renk1 Жыл бұрын
Good to get a glimpse of a game I’d known nothing about. Thanks for the episode! These smaller ones are a good idea.
@MadX8
@MadX8 Жыл бұрын
It's great to have you back John. These DF Retro are something else and your work in general is definitely what I prefer about Digital Foundry. Thank you!
@whiteflare1000
@whiteflare1000 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy the retro looks. I had never heard of this game, but I really enjoy hearing about game history. Thanks, John and DF team.
@diehlr
@diehlr Жыл бұрын
I think John hit the nail on the head in comparing the graphics technique used in this game with how the Saturn handled quads. I don’t think there was anywhere else to go with sprite based tech than to start warping textures using quads / triangles. It saved artists too much time and effort to warp their artwork in realtime rather than spend so much more time and memory to store precalculated versions taken at different angles.
@TheKillerPingu
@TheKillerPingu Жыл бұрын
I remember playing Gunbuster alot at the arcade when I was a kid. This plus Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Time Crisis, and Gunblade NY were my favourite go-to arcade games.
@TheSurreptitiousSquirrelCabal
@TheSurreptitiousSquirrelCabal Жыл бұрын
Gunbuster is an evolution of Taitos first-person shooter 'Space Gun', released two years earlier in 1990. The backpedal on the cabinet was an interesting touch in which you could reverse the set and automated forward and side scrolling momentum, to slightly extend your reaction time from the oncoming alien onslaught. The cabinets mounted guns also had a pump action mechanic which were used to launch screen clearing grenades. Check it out if you are able to, one of my favourite arcade games. Simple yet very fun.
@casedistorted
@casedistorted Жыл бұрын
I remember Space Gun fondly but I never got to see Gunbuster in action in an Arcade.
@SuperPowerPainter
@SuperPowerPainter Жыл бұрын
This is such a gift. We don't deserve this, John!!! Another masterclass video from ya. I especially loved the Zuntata music montage. Thank you
@jotakux7489
@jotakux7489 Жыл бұрын
This was like the best idea. You guys of had a long time. Thank you for this.
@Polyh3dron
@Polyh3dron Жыл бұрын
Loved this smaller video, I also never would've known about this game without it. Looking forward to the Road Rash epic too.
@SirCalalot
@SirCalalot Жыл бұрын
Great video, John! Even though it’s a smaller one, I don’t feel short-changed at all! It still has your trademark care and attention. (Not to mention the top-quality, un-stretched capture!) I’d never heard of this game either until now, so I’m off to try it out. Keep up the awesome work, mate!
@vornchhy3454
@vornchhy3454 Жыл бұрын
I had to triple check the video title and thought to my “Why is DF retro comparing an 80s anime Gunbuster with wolfenstein? but sure, why not, I’ll check out the video “. Lol. I’ve never heard of this game.
@0ring0
@0ring0 Жыл бұрын
Short videos, long videos, multi-episode series. All are welcomed in this house, John! Whatever you can produce and fits you schedule, we appreciate it! I'm honestly really hyped about the Road Rash video(s) I may finally see Road Rash 64 and Road Redemption (if you talk about modern successors) getting some time in the spotlight!
@ArchThaBoss
@ArchThaBoss Жыл бұрын
You just took me back. Road rash was my absolute favorite game series as a kid. I just loved the fact you could kick riders off their bikes 😂
@BeersYourFriend
@BeersYourFriend Жыл бұрын
It's so interesting to see these old games in action and what made them so special. The peeks behind the scenes explaining a games history, comparison videos of other classics at that time, and even covering the in-game music is just top-notch. Keep the retro videos coming. Excellent video John! Cheers! 🍻
@baldinggrey5368
@baldinggrey5368 Жыл бұрын
I loved that you included that Night Boat clip, classic Simpsons is such a gem
@unacomn
@unacomn Жыл бұрын
1992 was a hell of a year for first person games. When are you folks going to cover Ultima Underworld?
@ozzyp97
@ozzyp97 Жыл бұрын
This. UW was so far ahead of the curve, released before Wolf3D with real 3D environments more akin to Quake. Granted it didn't run as fast even with the small viewport, but still perfectly playable on a 33 MHz 486 with no FPU.
@videothumbgaming
@videothumbgaming Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal work as always, love the smaller focused format in between bigger projects, just the right amount of info and entertainment. Nobody does it better
@rickydo6572
@rickydo6572 Жыл бұрын
Every single game shown in this video looks absolutely amazing and I'm baffled I had never even heard about most of them. I feel like arcade gaming is largely unrecognized when it comes to gaming, there's an entire universe of absolutely amazing stuff that's just obscure nowdays, thousands of hidden gems most peopl don't know, and this game is absolutely one of those gems.
@krono5el
@krono5el Жыл бұрын
that was an incredible time to be a gaming maniac : D
@you2be839
@you2be839 Жыл бұрын
It's the kind of game that only those over 16 frequenting the arcades would stumble upon and play... and even then only a few arcades would feature a cabinet such as Gunbuster
@pferreira1983
@pferreira1983 Жыл бұрын
Antstream will help with your arcade gaming education. 👍
@CarterDotson
@CarterDotson Жыл бұрын
I played this at Galloping Ghost and was amazed at how advanced it was for 1992!
@SneakyFox195
@SneakyFox195 Жыл бұрын
Witnessing the technological and design methods to implement concepts we take for granted today is always a fascinating time - even more so when you guys do it! Also, I may need to go to a Taito music deep dive soon...
@Rationalific
@Rationalific Жыл бұрын
I love DF Retro! It's very apparent that you (John) have a real passion for what you cover. Even with that medley of songs that you thought we had to "survive", we can tell that you love some things so much that you feel you need to share them (which I'm all for!). I was around when Gunbuster came out, but it's a new game to me. Thanks for shedding light on all of this fascinating info!
@knightsabre2k
@knightsabre2k Жыл бұрын
IT's really cool seeing an episode dedicated to a single game which many may not have heard about but is still fascinating. And it doesn't have to a super long episode covering an entire series of multiple versions of the same game! Hope to see more!
@HoroJoga
@HoroJoga Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, John!
@Zionfarm
@Zionfarm Жыл бұрын
Wow just wow. This episode blew me away. The content and delivery was spot on. I never saw or knew of this gem. Considering I have a Taito F3 PCB, I appreciate their sound delivery and style of graphics.
@deucemcallister13
@deucemcallister13 Жыл бұрын
DF Retro is a gem, John. Short form or long form, I'm starved for more. Thanks for your continuous contributions to this great idea.
@nastybun
@nastybun Жыл бұрын
Love the episode and the format! Keen to have these sorts of curios documented and explored like this.
@Eu023
@Eu023 Жыл бұрын
Quality of this video is unbelievable! I could not skip ahead 10 seconds in the whole video, everything here was perfect. Thanks John!!!
@Nice_Places
@Nice_Places Жыл бұрын
1992 was a great year for games! You forgot to mention Streets of Rage 2, Contra III The Alien Wars, Thunder Force IV, Desert Strike, Axelay and that’s before we mention anything released in arcades and Neo-Geo! Great video and more arcade games please!
@vornchhy3454
@vornchhy3454 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John for this. I grew up in the 80s and 90s arcades. There’s so many games that I want to play back then as a kid but lack the quarters for them. I’ll definitely check out all the Taito games mentioned in this video. Keep up the great work.
@superbro6413
@superbro6413 Жыл бұрын
The sprite scaling tech Taito used in Gunbuster looks fantastic! Never heard of this game either, thanks for sharing this beautiful work of 90's arcade action with us all!
@TheBig451
@TheBig451 Жыл бұрын
DF Retro is probably my favorite thing on the entire platform, always a joy to see a new episode!
@Crackalacking_Z
@Crackalacking_Z Жыл бұрын
I love this shorter format, really nice way to spot light these forgotten gems.
@SeaToSkyImages
@SeaToSkyImages Жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed by how many arcade games from the late 80s/early 90s that I've never heard of. I was an arcade nut back then (still am), and figured I'd be getting close to knowing about every arcade game from that era. Not even close. Thanks so much for bringing this game to my attention, John. It looks really cool.
@Andrew-wb2zq
@Andrew-wb2zq Жыл бұрын
DF Retrooo! Man those CRT captures look great.
@cutter6900
@cutter6900 Жыл бұрын
Dude, your capture game is top-notch - besides being an awesome video, all the footage was absolutely gorgeous!
@90lancaster
@90lancaster Жыл бұрын
I disagree the presentation is overly zoomed in and artsy for the sake of it.
@AndreZelak
@AndreZelak Жыл бұрын
I loved this bite size DF Retro. Great work as always, John!
@michalmarek77
@michalmarek77 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding episode! Everything you do for DF, John, is simply stellar. Love your worki!
@werewolfy6
@werewolfy6 Жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for making me discover arcade games I’ve never heard of before! I love this short format so don’t hesitate to talk about more games in this way
@kylebookout1789
@kylebookout1789 Жыл бұрын
Love that quick Wii mote insert for some reason I picture John digging through a bunch of old accessories like "Yes, this will be perfect for this 5 second clip."
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 Жыл бұрын
Always preferred the look of sprite scaling in 3D over the polygons of this era. Way more variety, smoother performance, and better visuals in my opinion
@AntneeUK
@AntneeUK Жыл бұрын
The nostalgia is strong, John! What gorgeous visuals, and a great video
@jonnyeh
@jonnyeh Жыл бұрын
As a gamer that loves this era of gaming it's so easy to overlook these arcade only releases since they got little coverage in Magazines of the time, and are buried in the giant lists of MAME roms today. I will absolutely check this game out, thank you John!
@DonkeyRhubarb21
@DonkeyRhubarb21 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this. Superb work.
@mejia29
@mejia29 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you highlighted some of Zuntata's work. I feel they go overlooked and underappreciated.
@kohlmannj
@kohlmannj Жыл бұрын
Great episode, loved the music focus as well. Short episodes are great, and a relaxed, well-rested John Linneman is even greater!
@gridline
@gridline Жыл бұрын
I like that this experimentally short video is still four times as long as the first DF Retro on Quake.
@MikkoHiiri
@MikkoHiiri Жыл бұрын
Great video and this short form has its benefits, just the "snack" I needed.
@Daz5Daz
@Daz5Daz Жыл бұрын
Man Wolf 3D still holds up superbly to this day. Surprising now to look back and remember that most of us played this on keyboard using arrow keys and a strafe button!
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk Жыл бұрын
This era of 2D sprite scaling to form 3D environments was so cool!
@WalrusFPGA
@WalrusFPGA Жыл бұрын
Ah such great timing on this one- been spending the weekend revisiting early 90's FPS games 🙂 Thanks as always for sharing your insight into retro experiences here! Great way to start the day ☕
@leonkenedy4616
@leonkenedy4616 Жыл бұрын
That´s why games back in the day 90´s-2000´s are the best, That search for breach the boundaries, the desire to be the best, the passion. Nowadays most developers and publishers aim to play safe.
@SHGames97
@SHGames97 Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT 🔥 Brings me back to the first Quake/Duke episodes of DF Retro. An absolute potent, dense & action packed episode long enough to finish out my lunch break after eating. Still positively ADORE the formats throughout, 100% unique with differentiators making each addition to the wide pallette of "DF RETRO DELIVERY"* flavor!
@Agamemnon2
@Agamemnon2 Жыл бұрын
I never saw Gunbuster in the 90s, but I have vivid memories of seeing Space Gun on the Stockholm ferry in the period, and being blown away by the graphics and the lightgun controllers. It was like nothing I could ever imagine seeing on a home PC or console. I don't think I ever played it, my parents never liked me spending money on coin-op games and whatever pocket money I had on those trips was more likely to go into the soda machine instead :D
@ScavengerFX
@ScavengerFX Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for the game night striker for decades now and you found it for me! I had forgotten the name of it but I had a blast when I was a kid. Thanks!
@EyesArePlanets
@EyesArePlanets Жыл бұрын
Great video Jon. Loved the montage, never heard of that in-house band!
@metalagent47
@metalagent47 Жыл бұрын
What I appreciate most about John is his excellent eye for detail. John would never allow for retro games footage to be recorded in subpar conditions. These Close up captures either through emulation effects and shaders or what it may be. John would be the one to require the gameboy footage to appear in dot matrix shader. Love it
@Doomster-jl9rx
@Doomster-jl9rx Жыл бұрын
Great episode, John. Watching this one gave me a bit of an idea. How about a few episodes that cover arcade games? Most gamers these days don't know what arcade games were like, back in the day, and won't have a clue what it was like for us back in the 70s, 80s and 90s. I'll never forget moments like when I played Pong and Space Invaders back in the 70s, or the likes of Outrun, Gauntlet and After burner in the 80s. It would be fascinating seeing a video that covered these games and times. It's just a though, buddy.
@niveketihw1897
@niveketihw1897 Жыл бұрын
Excellent retrospective. I'll admit about as far back as I can go is Doom / Doom ][. Played through Doom 64 on Steam a couple years back and had a blast. I've never seen Gunbuster but it initially reminded me of Space Harrier. Sprite-fantastic graphics. I love going back in time for a few minutes with these vids! There was also a jet / air speeder arcade sim called Lock-On that I remember with sort of a similar look to Gunbuster. Cruis'n USA too. Those bright 8 bit color scaling sprites were SO in your face. Not very subtle. The sprite scaling wasn't TOO dissimilar from 5th gen console 3D (3DO, Jaguar, Saturn, PS1) with their swimming, glitching, non-perspective-corrected textures (and yes, the PS1 also had this despite the Saturn's weird texturing), even if the methods were pretty different. Also I owned an FPS that I bet most people have never heard of -- Robotica on the Saturn. I wouldn't say it was good, but it had a certain old-skool 2600 charm + FPS-ish motif that was interesting. Lots and lots and lots of fogging -- you mostly couldn't see more than 4 meters in front of yourself. Framerate was a nice and consistent 18 fps.
@vertigoz
@vertigoz Жыл бұрын
For those enjoying going down the rabbit hole, what about to search for "kk altair dread ep 01". This is a series of episodes from the author of a 3D FPS game that plays on a Vanilla Amiga 500. He goes on explaining the work behind it, it's very interesting, even because it's one genre that Amiga seriously lacked back then and one of the reasons of its demise.
@spyhardman
@spyhardman Жыл бұрын
This was excellent; I’d be thrilled to get more videos like this.
@iPlaySEGA
@iPlaySEGA Жыл бұрын
Yay! Finally again some RETRO stuff!
@TwinOpinion
@TwinOpinion Жыл бұрын
Thanks, John! 1992 really was one of the best years in history for video gaming! We didn't know how well we had it...
@plume...
@plume... Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks John. Also, scanlines make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
@Simpyphus
@Simpyphus Жыл бұрын
I have played a lot of Taito arcade games, but I am less familiar with the content you covered in this video. Very interesting stuff, I took some notes on games I will try out. Thanks for the upload.
@AP-hn8wd
@AP-hn8wd Жыл бұрын
Who else thought it was the 6-part anime mini-series, “Aim for the top” GunBuster?
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- Жыл бұрын
The whole japanese culture seems like an alternate timeline of everything, hence it being so interesting 💟
@jeanfcp
@jeanfcp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It's always nice to discover gems I had never heard about. And I always liked the Darius OSTs but didn't know about Zuntata. I now have a new massive playlist to listen to, lol.
@HimmelFlugzeug
@HimmelFlugzeug Жыл бұрын
Great work as always and a lot of fun to watch. Thanks John! I'd love to see more of those shorter, so to say retro DF Retro videos like the ones you made in the beginning. Nice game choice also, would never have known about it otherwise!
@Panzerhut
@Panzerhut Жыл бұрын
I think about this game way more often than anybody could imagine. Especially, because most people don't know this game existed. My friends and I had lots of fun in the arcade.
@BigBangBlitz
@BigBangBlitz Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Gunbuster is getting it's proper due somewhere on the internet. It's one of the coolest games nobody seems to recognize nowadays.
@wusstunes
@wusstunes Жыл бұрын
Cool episode. Loved the music montage.
@RidgeRacer
@RidgeRacer Жыл бұрын
That Taito montage is more than excused, that bit was so cool
@noodleknight7924
@noodleknight7924 Жыл бұрын
Street Fighter 2 was released early 1991 in arcades. 1992 was the date of it's first home console release.
@ImOnlyJoeKing
@ImOnlyJoeKing Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the montage at the end. The Psychic Force music is awesome
@ZinhoMegaman
@ZinhoMegaman Жыл бұрын
Survived the Montage, come on John, I only listen to soundtracks, I don't even bother with post-1999 traditional music anymore, so give me more OST Montage to listen, it is always a pleasure!
@afropovic
@afropovic Жыл бұрын
Street Fighter 2 came out in 1991. 92 saw the SNES home release and Championship Edition in the arcades.
@SteveBrandon
@SteveBrandon Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think we'd likely have gotten a Mortal Kombat if it wasn't for Street Fighter II, or perhaps we would have but it would've been a lot more like Pit Fighter.
@eraerrordotcom
@eraerrordotcom Жыл бұрын
Another treat from DF Retro. Always above and beyond the usual narrative. More of this!!!
@flyingplantwhale545
@flyingplantwhale545 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always John. I hope you guys also cover some some more famous/infamous e3 press conferences from the yesteryear.
@twocityfoodies8476
@twocityfoodies8476 Жыл бұрын
I only know Gunbuster the anime from it's amazing music. Got confused a bit with the title here lol. There is a KZbin cover of a 20 medley called Gunbuster Symphonic Poem from Square-Enix pianist Yui Morishita that is one of the single piece of music ever and his piano playing is unbelievable.
@Lishtenbird
@Lishtenbird Жыл бұрын
Yes - immediately thought of the Gunbuster/Diebuster series when I saw the title, and started wondering how I never heard of the game adaptation...
@sinbadthejunglist
@sinbadthejunglist Жыл бұрын
Welcome back, John! Great to see you well and hitting the ground running! Fantastic retro video, as always, and yes, do love the shorter vibes of this video... there's a lot of MAME to cover, so I'm sure it would be to everyone's benefit! I've been a fan of Taito and arcade games in general for many years, such a shame current access to these more obscure games are limited to emulation. ACA has, at least, been instrumental in bringing many arcade classics to console in a meaningful way; here's hoping they or any other company for that matter, start to tackle these more obscure titles and release them to the public at large! The kids of today don't know what they are missing 😁
@dingo535
@dingo535 Жыл бұрын
I love when “Adam” kicks in! Beautiful touch, Zuntata is soo good.
@andreadolci9263
@andreadolci9263 Жыл бұрын
The first episodes of DF Retro were 20 minutes or less long and focused on a single game, like this one. In my opinion this is the perfect format for covering most games
@bunnybreaker
@bunnybreaker Жыл бұрын
Playing Gunbuster on a modded Xbox with a lightgun that had a dpad is legit one of my favourite gaming memories. Never saw the actual cabinet in the wild though.
@StillTheVoid
@StillTheVoid Жыл бұрын
I discovered Taito's Zuntata through the Saturn port of Darius Gaiden and was one of its notable features on why I'd enjoyed the catalog of Taito games from the start. Even in Darius II's moody and space adventure music, I knew I was in for a wild ride. A reminder of how arcade games of the time transported us to another dimension releasing us from the shackles of society. Thank you guys for this vid. As always, I will be looking forward to your next videos. Until next time... ✌
@Alanzice
@Alanzice Жыл бұрын
Thx for the video as always, John. Love your DF Retro series!
@ilkeryoldas
@ilkeryoldas Жыл бұрын
We need more retro videos.. went back 6 years on the playlist!
@slaterbreaker
@slaterbreaker Жыл бұрын
Never heard of this, it looks incredible! Great video and continually great professional content!
@TheSoleDweller
@TheSoleDweller Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reminiscences this video summoned. I was living in my 2nd decade back then: you've waken up the child in me and I'm grateful for that. Plus, the in-depth technical explanation of it all I couldn't know of, in these old days. 👍
@KGRAMR
@KGRAMR Жыл бұрын
Great video John! I actually do like the idea bite sized episodes covering particular games for any platform :D
@Garrad3
@Garrad3 Жыл бұрын
Aside from the feature length. These short videos and E3 ones are my favourite. Love to see more E3 coverage from the veterans.
@WH250398
@WH250398 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of retro shooters, I am having an absolute blast with Prodeus. Genuinely one of the best fps games I have played in years.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Prodeus is excellent.
@ArchThaBoss
@ArchThaBoss Жыл бұрын
Any drop from digital foundry makes for a good Sunday 😎
@MetalJody1990
@MetalJody1990 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful episode, John! I'm gonna try this game asap! Thanks a ton for the instructions. EDIT: Just played thru the whole thing... Damn, I'm impressed! I had a lot of fun. Aiming with the mouse felt similar to how aiming felt in the Wii port of Metroid Prime with keyboard & mouse in the emulator Dolphin (not the PrimeHack version), so it took me like no time to get used to turning and aiming at targets. Kick-ass game for 1992 for sure. Would love to have the actual arcade machine in my house.
@nuruddinpeters9491
@nuruddinpeters9491 Жыл бұрын
Love these retro videos, especially in bite size like these. Gotta see if i can get this game working on my steamdeck. Never played any other taito games from the 90's aside from ThunderFox on Sega Genesis (port to home console) and darius 1, and 2 on Super nes (Port to home console.) The music for these games were fackin incredible, glad to see you highlighted these aspects like no one ever does.
@hotdogflavoureddrink
@hotdogflavoureddrink Жыл бұрын
Short or long, I just want more of those excellent Retro videos!
@NMN
@NMN Жыл бұрын
2:24 I remember a new sit-down VIRTUA RACING cab in the local arcade, obviously built for the Japanese market - as a 6ft3 19-year-old my knees were somewhere around my chest when I tried it 😅
@fh5kskalf
@fh5kskalf Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this video. It has such good pacing and storytelling! The music segment mixed with gameplay was downright beautiful! Some of your best stuff ever John! After writing this comment I'm off to try out MAME
@Alianger
@Alianger Жыл бұрын
Great video although I was expecting more comparison points and a winner towards the end :D
@JimParshall
@JimParshall Жыл бұрын
Great video. More like this, por favor. You rock at this format and relating these wonderful stories.
@Artagah
@Artagah Жыл бұрын
LOOOOOVE this video to death ❤️ I myself have recently gotten really into the history of gaming and started playing some of the best retro games in chronological order, so this kind of a video is right up my alley atm 😁 Love how you set the historical stage and all the detail you went into on the game itself! Never heard of it before (my research has been purposefully constrained to the home gaming experiences) but now I really want to try this arcade jam out!
@thebizzle413
@thebizzle413 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite series on KZbin.
@Aragorn7884
@Aragorn7884 Жыл бұрын
*'The Super Spy'* came out in 1990 in arcades 🤷
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