DF Retro Hardware! Analogue Nt Mini - The 21st Century NES

This week, John takes a closer look at the Analogue Nt Mini - the premium console designed to play NES games and more.
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[@TheDarkenedRose]

Wow. 25 DF Retro episodes. My how time passes by. Love this series, John. Keep the episodes coming, man. :)

[@TOMLEE64]

He's gonna take you back to the past.

[@RicarditoFlores3p]

To play the shitty games that suck ass.

[@RicarditoFlores3p]

David Francois Do you even know the reference?

[@Adrian429351]

He'd rather have a buffalo take a diarrea dump in his ear

[@fubrokonway8529]

@adam_odell_'official' he's the angry videogame nerd

[@louie242y]

Holy shit, John is too good for this world. The amount of depth and quality oozing from these videos is unbelievable.

[@HardwareHank02]

god its not like you all have access to the internet to go see Ryzen benchmarks somewhere else, I am a PC enthusiast but I love these DF retro videos.

[@ChaseMMD]

22:00 Did i hear my lord and savior? Hatsune Miku?

[@doctoraciel4843]

your videos rock so fucking hard, good job.

[@mattlandry]

If any tech noobs are wondering, you won't properly see the sprite flicker he's referring to unless you are watching the video with the quality set to 60fps

[@Stunlokked]

and only $450 USD

[@danfu1299]

just watched same video from the game sack...... who knows it's so popular now

[@fossilfern]

now all I need is a 16 bit machine like this!

[@silentfanatic]

Love that you included "Drifting Love" by Keiji Yamagishi in this video.

[@EirikBerntsenIDKFA]

THANK YOU! I could not place this tune, even though I have listened to it alot in the past. I thought it might be Anamanaguchi until i decided to check the video comments. Thanks again. :)

[@DevinMoney]

Oooohh I like that Intro

[@mjc0961]

Every time I see an NT mini video, I really want one. Then I remember the price tag and... Well I won't say it's a bad value for the money, but that's still a large chunk of change .

[@gitech7450]

Wait... You missed what was done for parallax scrolling in Metal Storm... It overlaps. I would have loved to hear what you would say about it! ;) :)

[@gilkomfg]

What's with all the Ryzen moaning? You can get Ryzen benchmarks every-freaking-where. Leave this sweet sweet retro stuff alone.

[@robertcop3736]

Man I'd love DF Retro to get a spin off channel, I could watch this every day

[@rexthesheep]

Shout-out to Puyo Puyo on your shelf!!! also great video as usual

[@AFPMPU]

been waiting for ages on your ryzen review

[@delaorden]

I ask the same I asked on the NES Classic review. How about latency and how do they compare between each other an other products like retron and a raspberry pi running retropie? The real test is: Can it play zapper games over crt?

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

delaorden The Analogue NT and NT Mini using an analogue connection will work perfectly with lightguns on a CRT. The Retrons and NES Classic are incapable of light gun support, as they only output digital signals. If their signals are converted to analogue, they *might* work, but I doubt it. I’m not sure about Raspberry Pis, but chances are they won’t work properly unless they are modified to include some form of 15khz analogue output.

[@GPUtest]

I really like DF Retro, keep doing these series! It has to be a lot of work to write scripts, make voiceover, record game footage in such a long video format. Thank You.

[@MrMario2011]

Totally worth it for the Atari 2600 vs. Xbox comparison.

[@Patrick-S]

A lot of your subscribers are still waiting for the Ryzen benchmarks DigitalFoundry.

[@gilgamesh852]

PC gaming in 2017... Bro PC gaming is dead since 2007.

[@Noelis]

PC gaming never died

[@DozifJuggles]

it's the biggest its ever been. Globally it's currently much bigger than console gaming.

[@Heikki360ES]

Lol

[@Patrick-S]

Phil W Are you serious? Or is that meant to be satire? You never know under a DF video.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

WHY ARE YOU JUDGING THE QUALITY OF COMPOSITE VIDEO ON A 450 QUID CONSOLE THAT OUTPUTS RGB AND HDMI

[@Ksullivan95]

DF retro, such a great way to start Sunday mornings.

[@chemergency]

FPGA's are God's gift to mankind. They certainly aren't cheap or easy to work with currently but they leave the door open for us to someday get perfect clones of SNES, N64, PS1, etc.

[@jfd4706]

That TMNT 2 intro though, good old days

[@NightSprinter]

Minor correction: It isn't that the NES lacked the pins, just they were wired up to different ones on the 72-pin connector, which were then wired to the unused expansion port on the console's bottom (hence why a resistor mod is needed to hear such audio from a flash cartridge, or a Famicom adapter properly-wired up for the expansion audio to the NES slot pins after the mod).

[@nalong55]

Where is Witchard?

[@sidepresang5771]

Hey John, You guys should do a series on the ol Quake 3 engine games. There's a lot of interesting stuff to cover there.

[@TheKafairy]

No Retro USB AVS review? NT is great but AVS is much more realistic for most budgets...great video btw

[@stylage]

Here is your Ryzen review. *"It's Okay"*.

[@cyphaborg6598]

Man what a bunch of whiners in the comment section. " What about that?this?these? " Just enjoy the show ffs lol.

[@anarfox]

Composit video? When I was a kid we didn't have such luxury. We had to make do with RF.

[@DeJotaGamer]

David Olandersson Same here

[@CaptainPsychopath69]

I'd love to buy one of these, but the price was a bit of a turn off. anyways, great video John

[@NicolausCamp]

Is there something akin to this, that uses original hardware, but for N64 and/or SNES/SFC?

[@Emitremmus29]

This is quickly becoming the best part of my Sunday! I had heard of those analogue systems but hadn't taken the time to do the reading. Thanks DF retro, now I have a way to enjoy Dragon Warrior 4, Game gear and game boy games on one display (love the inclusion of the info regarding the new LG OLED screens in relation as that is probably going to be my next primary display!

[@Psydrre]

Great video John, 20 minutes felt like 2. Thank you and keep up the good work! ☺

[@LeoA2600]

Why do you ignore the RetroUSB AVS? Seems peculiar to not even give it a nod in any of your videos...

[@coolbrotherf127]

I've never been a huge retro gamer, but this thing looks absolutely great. I would love to buy this thing.

[@hateWinVista]

Keep up the good work! Always love these DF retro episodes.

[@gabrieleriva651]

Enough with these Ryzen comments. Use twitter FFS.

[@JackTheBeast88]

is there anyone who really like scalines?

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

JackTheBeast88 Me. But mainly on my CRT. On an LCD, scanlines are very hard to get right, often they are too strong. On my CRT TV, it naturally has scanlines and I love them. I also have CRT monitor too now, and a good scanline filter looks incredible on that.

[@Aggrofool]

Love the TMNT intro!

[@james-ch]

$450? fucking hell.....

[@Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX]

I'd love to see a df retro on metal gear solid

[@zinclive]

Where is the Ryzen video?

[@enkodernovi3524]

this is console channel now go away :P

[@zinclive]

This is getting so bad, they aren't even talking about the 1080 ti either. The two most major things happening the in PC tech industry.

[@dark1x]

Zinclive Richard has been working on this stuff all week. It's coming soon.

[@gilgamesh852]

PC gaming is dead since 2007. Who cares about Ryzen?

[@ddasddfddasd5540]

why dont you guys help witchard? is it all because witchard asked triss to stay first and then told yen nothing changed??

[@twizzbharat2577]

Digital Foundary I Love Your Videos!!! I Wish I Was Part Of Your Team!!!!

[@shawnm607]

Great video as usual! I know the purists may shun me for saying this but, why not buy a Nvidia Shield TV as it is very capable of software emulation at/up to 4k natively for the n64 and below. The price, and support for multiple consoles under decently accurate software emulation shouldn't be overlooked as a viable multiple machine emulator.

[@AliNT77]

RYZEN review ...

[@Taorakis]

Hey John, i still want to play my favorite ever game StarFox Adventures on Original Gamecube Hardware, but not in crappy SVideo Quality, can you suggest an option here that not is the Component Cable that by now costs 300$? Would be very much appreciated!

[@Xpert74]

Thanks for another great DF Retro video :) I had no idea the Anologue Nt Mini could play ROMs of Game Gear/Colecovision/etc. 8-bit systems too! That's incredible.

[@densydodo]

Though I think this is a good video to introduce people to this kind of hardware stuff, there are already people doing these with excellent quality and with more comparisons to similar options. My Life In Gaming comes to mind as an excellent source for this. I like the digging into old games and how they work/comparing different versions more; that's more unique content.

[@The_Noticer.]

Apprently people think that all people at DF work on the same projects.

[@kjmullinz]

does anyone know if its NATIVE or EMULATION when playing Game gear, atari, etc. on a jailbroken NT mini?

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

John, did you buy one of the 10 Gold NT's? Not gonna lie it's a very classy looking piece.

[@ddasddfddasd5540]

apart from ryzen review, where is budget gaming cross platform review like ps4 pro vs g4560 & rx470/gtx970 & 16g 2400mhz ram????????

[@EnslavedGamer]

You should do Shadowman in DF Retro :) Great game for its time and a lot of different versions to analyze :)

[@dvdmike007]

Digital foundry LG OLED plug? CHECK

[@TechRyze]

$450? If the price becomes reasonable, then I want one. As things happen, I'd buy a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X first. It's crazy that a NES is competing for $€£ with the latest consoles in 2018. Great stuff.

[@shivasthong4924]

I want a comparison, HDMI NES vs Analogue NT!

[@lancealmekian353]

DigitalFoundry please benchmark Ryzen R71800x. If possible too, can you disable 4 cores/8 threads and compare it to 7700k downclocked so they both have the same config. Thanks.

[@happyspaceinvader508]

For $40, you can buy a Raspberry Pi 3, and run all of these games (and more), with HDMI output, and stick it in your pocket and take to a friend's house. For $120 (or so), you can buy a GPD XD, and play all these games on the go. I think the Analogue NT Mini is wonderful as a theoretical concept, but I can't see the point in actually buying one.

[@SadalDay]

will you be reviewing vacuum cleaners anytime in the future?

[@Adamchevy]

Just picked me up a Noir. The inclusion of Sega Genesis support is really amazing. Also, the new power of the upgraded FPGA is a welcome addition to an already outstanding console. Thanks for making this video! Its always a special treat to watch your Retro coverage!

[@nortron_zero8994]

Lot of dry PC coverage on Digital Foundry and I find some of their console stuff is pretty sarcastic and condescending. But I love John. Owning a PC and gaming on it is fine. I have a half decent PC myself... plus a multitude of consoles (I don't feel like its a betrayal of the master race). But I feel like John gets the joy of console gaming and the thrill of getting a new system or game, as well as the nostalgia of dusting off an old one. He is always surrounded by consoles and games from all platforms and eras, I appreciate the enthusiasm and passion for all types of gaming he exudes in his videos. Great work John. Keep 'em coming.

[@retractingblinds]

the my life in gaming, game sack, and df retro reviews are identical. i think the ftc needs to investigate.

[@evilkinggumby]

heh.. i like how you left the pricetag to the END of the video.. and even then you had to justify it by adding up all the similar hardware and mods plus the fact it can "unofficially" do extra 8 bit systems via alternate firmware. I think I would have preferred a straight one for one comparison betwen this console, original hardware, the top few consoles currently on the market, and what the costs are so people on varying budgets get a feel for where it all stacks up. Sort of a modern buyer's guide from best to worst. though yeah.. this was a.. overview? review? comparison? i'm.. not entirely sure what the focus of this was..... or who the audience is that it set out for.

[@tortugatech]

where is Ryzen review DF?

[@DethThrasher1]

it's obviously in the works, have patients my child

[@dharry411]

He ain't a doctor tho

[@Boophpoi]

I think they will do it soon, just for better quality you need more time you know. And they have usually better quality of testing

[@dondehne5370]

Love the nes it brings me back to my childhood. Bing a kid saving all the money I earned shoveling snow and mowing lawns for my neighbors. Having my parents drive me to the mall to buy a new game, sometimes I didn't even know what game I wanted I would buy the game with the coolest box art. Most of the games I picked up were hit or miss but I loved that I had a new game. Today's games are great and their graphic capabilities are amazing but there is not a single person on the planet who will be playing gta5 in 20 years. I feel today's games are too easily accessible which makes them all disposable. My kids will never feel that excitement for a new game and I understand that's progress but it's also a little sad.

[@7EEVEE]

This is great hardware for those that want it, I'll stick to Retroarch though.

[@sharporigami5216]

It would be great to see one of these hardware discussions for the n64, ps1, and saturn. It would be interesting to see each consoles strengths and weaknesses with sound, video, graphics, etc. and if or how developers overcame them. I recently got an n64 and was surprised by how blurry the picture comes out compared to the playstation when outputting on the same crt television with s-video.

[@happyspaceinvader508]

When playing from original cartridges, are all the tweaks to the video output, cropping, sound etc. saved for each individual game?

[@mauryj.3415]

This thing is actually more advanced and more powerful than a Nintendo Switch.

[@thedentist888]

This feels more like a commercial than a review. He doesn't talk about any of the problems with the machine that other reviews cover. It's a shame because I watched hoping they would cover the problems more, but they didn't even mention them..

[@jc_dogen]

Gimmick's not really that great of an example of expansion audio imo. The konami expansion games are more noticeably different.

[@skins4thewin]

Hey, what is the latest version of the jailbroken firmware? I have my NT Mini coming tomorrow and want to be sure I have the latest version ready to go.

[@xkxk7539]

lmao the amount of kids crying about ryzen when they dont realize console users destroy pc gamers when it comes to user count. Why? Price and Convenience.

[@sebastianspatafore5117]

ROMS on the analogue nt looks the same as the original cart, or ROMS have issues? (beginner question)

[@mateuszcichowski5651]

Looks good, but still I think this is just a toy for wealth ones.

[@ICalverz]

John are you wearing an outcast tshirt?? OULAKAI!!

[@justinholmes5614]

Would love to see this compared to the Retro AVS. It seems like the AVS does the same job without the massive price

[@HEADSHOTPROLOL]

GUESS IT'S TIME TO SWITCH HAHA kill me

[@Kharnivore2099]

Best Nintendo console released in a long time.

[@Mac3Media]

I'll roll with a home brewed Wii...

[@GalacticSoul42]

cmon john i know you want it i see it on your eyes i see it on your heart a desire burning deep within you that wants to make a timesplitters trilogy video

[@michaelcuellar59]

Man I’d love to see you all do something on the NT mini Noir v2 but I understand you all are busy.

[@TheBigupz]

lmao nes expensive?, here you can get a Boxed Action set for arround 30$

[@yokoanna1399]

while the Analogue Nt mini is cool, i still prefer the Retron 5 since i own it. but if you favor other consoles then that's cool too

[@Goldiebike]

we want to see gta v on boost mode PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

[@Goldiebike]

Subi_fan NO......in online it drops down at 20 or 18 some times

[@Goldiebike]

Subi_fan I don't think it is because of gpu....ps4 has a very powerful chip but gta is not optimized....

[@koda7720]

Thanos Κωστινης Think about it like this. If the PS4 PRO's CPU was any good there'd be a lot more 60 FPS open world games. GTA 5 is leaps and bounds more optimised than previous Rage engine titles besides Max Payne 3. In fact, the the PRO's CPU is worse than mid range $200 CPUs from 2011 so I wouldn't blame Rockstar. They did what they could.

[@Goldiebike]

Ameer Mohamed I know what you mean but the only thing i want to see if boost mode locks 30 fps.....

[@koda7720]

It drops below 30 fps!? Wow. Now I understand. You're right. They could do better.

[@mrkirios]

FPGA-based SNES cloning, when?

[@benpersaud]

This is the most useful video no other channel is making, thank you

[@jabijabi4154]

0:15 What is game title? like a ninja gaiden... 16:50 too.. Let me know

[@Soda_F1]

where are ryzen benchmarks?? something is fishy

[@stagelinedpro]

Looks great, but I'm not paying $450 for it.

[@esm86ok]

eh i'll just stick to my pi or playing on original hardware

[@Zetler]

What? No video about "steady 30 FPS"?

[@DarkHalmut]

Lol. Same day as GameSack's review of the same system.

[@Capricorn_IV]

What is the input lag like when you are using the Analogue Nt Mini on a LG OLED B6 TV?

[@charvelgtrs]

That TV has input lag of 27.8ms with 1080p source using game mode, but make sure you are running latest firmware of your TV.

[@charvelgtrs]

No its not. The average LCD/OLED hits 40+ ms.

[@t103Ninja]

last time i looked at LG's lineup of OLED TV's input on the entire range was god awful, i guess they have been busy

[@Omardtown1]

charvelgtrs what would happen if you combined the frame Maister to this setup

[@charvelgtrs]

I believe Frame Meister adds an additional frame of lag.

[@matthewdavis5486]

Any chance a video will come out about the NT Mini Noir?

[@Nein99x]

whats the title of the last music track of the Video?