New Xbox Hardware: High Prices, Low Excitement Level

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@DP12321
@DP12321 4 ай бұрын
"599 US DOLLARS" takes me back to Sony in 2006. Except here it's not cutting edge tech, it's dated 4 year old technology. What a joke.
@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99
@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99 4 ай бұрын
There’s a difference, inflation and the costs not going down but yes I do see what you’re trying to say.
@RavenTeamCharlie
@RavenTeamCharlie 4 ай бұрын
Funny you say this, in my feed guess what’s underneath this video? 😂
@Matt-jc2ml
@Matt-jc2ml 4 ай бұрын
The PS5 can buy a beer now, ever hear of inflation?
@AlexRocks80s80s
@AlexRocks80s80s 4 ай бұрын
@@Matt-jc2mlwhat inflation both companies are worth a zillion dollars
@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99
@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99 4 ай бұрын
@@AlexRocks80s80s And they both want to make another zillion dollars lol.
@stabinghobo57
@stabinghobo57 4 ай бұрын
I miss the old Xbox leadership with Peter More and J Arnold. OG Xbox & Early X360 had such an amazing library of games.
@Skullet
@Skullet 4 ай бұрын
J Allard, but yeah I agree. I loved the OG Xbox and 360, but everything after that has been 50 shades of disappointment.
@yetanotheruser1989
@yetanotheruser1989 4 ай бұрын
It's only now I can look back and see just how good the 360, and the management around it was and still is
@bisquiteentrisket3518
@bisquiteentrisket3518 4 ай бұрын
I had been waiting all generation for a Series X refresh but when I saw these new updates I was so unimpressed I immediately bought an original Series X for $399.
@Nezben
@Nezben 4 ай бұрын
Why were you waiting?!
@fwabble
@fwabble 4 ай бұрын
You got ripped off. That' shits worth £299 MAX in 2024.
@NathansNostalgia
@NathansNostalgia 4 ай бұрын
Why were you waiting?
@tedunseth3966
@tedunseth3966 4 ай бұрын
@@fwabble The XSX hasn't been tapped at all. I wonder if MS is holding back on the internal upgrades after Sony announces the Pro. They should toss in a faster SSD for load times only. Expect faster wifi, better heatsink and other minor improvements. It seems the Pro is not that much more powerful than the X after looking at the leaked specs. It's actually 16TF splitted up. 13-14TF for shading(45% PS5 uplift) and 3TF for ML. Faster ram but same amount as the X. Basically identical CPU's. It does seem the showcase was finally showing what the X was meant to do.
@dusermiginte4647
@dusermiginte4647 4 ай бұрын
​@@tedunseth3966new gen Xbox rumored to release in 2026 anyway.
@justthegoodstuff4670
@justthegoodstuff4670 4 ай бұрын
The problem with xbox is branding A mom would go to a store and says i want a ps5 But if she wants to buy xbox it's confusing for her Series x /s one x/s and these new variants
@lordxboss5700
@lordxboss5700 4 ай бұрын
Ya if she wants a PS5 her only options are Digital, Standard, Digital Slim, Slim with disc drive or with option to buy disc drive separately later and soon PS5 Pro digital and PS5 Pro Disc 🤪 then Start shopping around for SSD Options 🤯
@lectorintellegat
@lectorintellegat 4 ай бұрын
@@lordxboss5700digital and standard difference is intuitive - so is slim or not. Not to mention that those are self described difference. the x/s is a qualitative difference, and the branding is not intuitive.
@markedone494
@markedone494 4 ай бұрын
@@lectorintellegat Buddy you dont even need to know which is x and which is s, people will ask for either the more affordable one or the more powerful one, but the thing is, no one is looking for xbox either way.
@CAP-yi8wt
@CAP-yi8wt 4 ай бұрын
@@lectorintellegatnot really. Unless they specifically ask what the difference is the only immediately visible thing is the box color. I know of people who got one or the other and didn’t even notice it until someone else pointed it out.
@TimDespairBear11
@TimDespairBear11 4 ай бұрын
Yeah a lot of parents are clueless. During Black Friday I saw a woman at target trying to buy Mario kart 8 for the Xbox. I’m not even kidding.
@TimDespairBear11
@TimDespairBear11 4 ай бұрын
Imo these options are pointless. A “digital series X” is barely cheaper, and $600 for a 2tb series x is kinda crazy. Won’t the PS5 pro be around $600? So what’s the point?
@AthleticHobo-br4qh
@AthleticHobo-br4qh 4 ай бұрын
Because of the cost of the ps5 pro chip, faster ram and increased cooling, to keep costs down it'll probably be equipped with a 1tb ssd. So at least the xsx 2tb model has that...!
@TimDespairBear11
@TimDespairBear11 4 ай бұрын
@@AthleticHobo-br4qh I guess but I’d rather have a 1tb ps5 pro over a 2tb series x if both are 600. You can upgrade the storage later anyway.
@JaimeIsJaime
@JaimeIsJaime 4 ай бұрын
@@TimDespairBear11 absolutely. And not to mention upgrading storage on PS5 is very inexpensive
@kyledodson2992
@kyledodson2992 4 ай бұрын
I’m still questioning why a PS5 pro would need to exist at this point. Maybe after GTA6?
@TimDespairBear11
@TimDespairBear11 4 ай бұрын
@@kyledodson2992 I think sony wants to push better ray tracing, as right now it pretty much tanks the resolution or framerate. I’m just sticking to the old PS5 because I already have one.
@Jabid21
@Jabid21 4 ай бұрын
Simple cost cutting tactic. With SSD NAND chips at low prices, taking out the disc drive while keeping the chassis and internal components basically the same would save tons and have gamers locked into digital licenses and game pass. Microsoft wanted to do this with Xbox One originally before they had to backpedal on that.
@Bakedea87
@Bakedea87 4 ай бұрын
Exactly some people are saying why make it the same size of the x but they're not considering the new money invested in making new console designs and molds. When you can use the same mold as the x and the fact they try to have set model and design for each one
@colaboytje
@colaboytje 4 ай бұрын
That would make sense if they were actually selling consoles at a higher rate. That is not the case. Sales are dropping every year, while Sony is gaining sales. MS only has a 33% market share. These additions will not increase sales as the pricing is too high. So now they have to produce more models and hope that people will buy them. If people don't, then they are losing money.
@Jabid21
@Jabid21 4 ай бұрын
@@colaboytje My opinion on that is Microsoft is not concerned about hardware sales anymore. What they care about is getting their games to as many customers as possible, regardless of the platform and gain Game Pass subscribers. Sony is aiming for the same. Console hardware has never been profitable anyone other than Nintendo as Nintendo has lower hardware cost per unit than the other two and has strong first-party titles and IP to back it up. I'm predicting that Sony and Microsoft will start leveraging its Plus and Game Pass subscription as a means to get any games published on their platform to be playable on day one of release and make non-subscribers wait to play. Once consoles go all-digital, gamers won't be left with a choice of any alternatives; Sony/Microsoft can make people subscribe and then force gamers to "buy" the game by removing the said game from their subscription plan and require a 'purchase' of the digital license to keep playing the game until they revoke the license since people won't 'own' their games anymore.
@DP12321
@DP12321 4 ай бұрын
@@colaboytje Exactly. It's dire for Xbox. They were being outsold 2:1 by PS5 and that's since jumped to 5:1 which is insanely bad.
@proggz39
@proggz39 4 ай бұрын
No one’s buying our console. I know, let’s make it more expensive
@horrorfan6710
@horrorfan6710 4 ай бұрын
Come on dude, tons of people have Xboxes.
@anthonyayre2910
@anthonyayre2910 3 ай бұрын
Xbox is selling
@Whit3WolfXArcadia
@Whit3WolfXArcadia 4 ай бұрын
If only they added an nvme slot and a type c port 😮 instead of those crappy expensive proprietary storage cards they removed the disc drive but they don't add qol changes to the hardware
@justinreschke3642
@justinreschke3642 4 ай бұрын
I never understood the strategy of going all digital but selling consoles with such limited storage and charging an arm and a leg for additional storage.
@Thief000
@Thief000 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, the vastly overpriced semi-proprietary storage cards are basically why I don't own a Series console. I won't have any of that!
@mikeuk666
@mikeuk666 4 ай бұрын
​@@justinreschke3642 I only play via gamepass with half the storage & never have issues
@jefferytillis8309
@jefferytillis8309 4 ай бұрын
Gotta follow the Apple model. Apple has been doing this for decades. Make any upgradeable accessories proprietary so that you can have full control of sales and profit on the items.
@Revan_7even
@Revan_7even 4 ай бұрын
You'd think Sony would be the one with the proprietary drive.
@fabioalvesshow
@fabioalvesshow 4 ай бұрын
Xbox is the next Sega
@balaam_7087
@balaam_7087 4 ай бұрын
Sega had (still has) memorable games though…
@martinflores7354
@martinflores7354 4 ай бұрын
With publishing power 😆
@stabinghobo57
@stabinghobo57 4 ай бұрын
SEGA Dreamcast is still live.
@deathtrooper2048
@deathtrooper2048 4 ай бұрын
​@@balaam_7087Sega has been making mediocre at best games when they don't nostaglia bait.
@dusermiginte4647
@dusermiginte4647 4 ай бұрын
Lol, uhm no.. Actually thats playstation...
@scosee2u
@scosee2u 4 ай бұрын
I love that my series x stays quiet under heavy load. It's incredible.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 4 ай бұрын
I moan when I get heavy loads
@QuantumChrist
@QuantumChrist 4 ай бұрын
​@@BBWahoo, I'm virgin 😭
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 4 ай бұрын
@@QuantumChrist Good, wait for that special someone.
@scosee2u
@scosee2u 4 ай бұрын
@@BBWahoo zuzz
@illestcatnnebraska7331
@illestcatnnebraska7331 4 ай бұрын
No games, easy to stay quiet
@jukkapiispanen123
@jukkapiispanen123 4 ай бұрын
I don't see what is the point of these new models.Regular SX is often on sale for 450eur/usd
@2greenify
@2greenify 4 ай бұрын
Much more storage. Personally I havent needed it yet, but would consider this when buying a new one.
@SquadHunta117
@SquadHunta117 4 ай бұрын
Options
@wizzenberry
@wizzenberry 4 ай бұрын
​@@2greenifyon ps5 we have a thing called cheap expandable storage 😂😂 and its twice as fast, and no "" "" "bespoke" "" "" " fixtures 😂😂😂
@Grayson950815
@Grayson950815 4 ай бұрын
If you consider how much those expansion cards are. It is cheaper to get the 2Tb X from the jump
@jonathanto99
@jonathanto99 4 ай бұрын
​​@@2greenifythe 2TB Series X is a limited edition like the Halo version, so you won't be able to buy it forever. It's also $600 for a 4 year console when a regular X can be bought for $400.
@Youraveragegamer_97
@Youraveragegamer_97 4 ай бұрын
Personally I think the digital series x looks lazy, with the internal space it already had, and with no disk drive they coulda shaved upto 2 inches off the side, making it able to fit horizontally in most entertainment stands
@G360LIVE
@G360LIVE 4 ай бұрын
But then it wouldn't look like the mini-fridge anymore.
@Youraveragegamer_97
@Youraveragegamer_97 4 ай бұрын
@@G360LIVE right?🤣imo the series x is the ugliest xbox design to exist, especially when your upgrading from the xbox one x
@applehazeva2739
@applehazeva2739 4 ай бұрын
I wish they at least could have given the One S to One X treatment where the One X is basically the same formfactor as the One S. The Digital Series X could have been pushed more to an Series S Format (at the same time, everyone will confuse those both due to the black Series S)
@overwatch761
@overwatch761 4 ай бұрын
​@@Youraveragegamer_97 nah its easily the best Xbox design to date.
@Youraveragegamer_97
@Youraveragegamer_97 4 ай бұрын
​@@applehazeva2739 really? I always thought the one x was distinctive then the one s due to its airflow direction change and the one x having a bigger overhang in the front and side
@VaultBoy69
@VaultBoy69 4 ай бұрын
The excitement is low especially when you open up to a multiplatform strategy
@ogre706
@ogre706 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. They're fine pieces of hardware on their own, but how excited are we supposed to be when the messaging amounts to "Here are some more Xbox hardware variants you can buy, or you can just play our games on your PS5 and PC!"
@Docwiz2
@Docwiz2 4 ай бұрын
SONY IS DOING IT AS WELL. BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I AM NOT SURE VIDEO GAMES ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS.
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 4 ай бұрын
@@ogre706 so you would rather be given less choice and for it to be shiny all thanks to illusionary software exclusivity? MS is doing us a favor, and we should reward them by buying their products, not complain how they are not as bad as the rest!
@VaultBoy69
@VaultBoy69 4 ай бұрын
@@Docwiz2 putting games to PC is not the same as putting them into a rival console. PC is NOT a console.
@ScionOfTheSeventhDawn
@ScionOfTheSeventhDawn 4 ай бұрын
​@@VaultBoy69and I'm still waiting for Bloodborne, Demon Souls, The Last Guardian and Spider-Man 2, if I wanted to play literally any Xbox game of the last 2 generations I could literally do it on my PC right now 🤷🏼‍♀️
@MiguelX99
@MiguelX99 4 ай бұрын
They should have launched the Series X digital at the beginning of the generation with the disc drive Series X instead of the Series S. Sony did it with the PS5 digital and it worked for them. The Xbox Series S was a mistake.
@Luke973T
@Luke973T 4 ай бұрын
Same thing I said when it was confirmed that the series s was legit. I knew that it wouldn't make the impact that they were looking for.
@williamphillips2671
@williamphillips2671 4 ай бұрын
You’re both wrong
@nicolapellegrino1072
@nicolapellegrino1072 4 ай бұрын
The series-s is the best-selling xbox console, so that console hasn't been a mistake.
@Luke973T
@Luke973T 4 ай бұрын
@nicolapellegrino1072 still selling poorly for the price
@onlywiigame.
@onlywiigame. 4 ай бұрын
@@nicolapellegrino1072because it was the only console available during the first couple years of the generation and they still got blown out badly by PlayStation
@leoni7649
@leoni7649 4 ай бұрын
Low excitement level is the most Xbox thing that can be. No surprise here
@nicolapellegrino1072
@nicolapellegrino1072 4 ай бұрын
Ah yes because latest playstation showcase has been full of excitement... 😏
@leoni7649
@leoni7649 4 ай бұрын
@@nicolapellegrino1072 As if the fact that the PlayStation showcases have been bad automatically makes Xbox exciting.
@Shirou8492
@Shirou8492 4 ай бұрын
@@nicolapellegrino1072Xbox has had the best showcases for 3 years, the platform is still in the worst place it’s ever been.
@nicolapellegrino1072
@nicolapellegrino1072 4 ай бұрын
@leoni7649 you have to show something to make excitement 😁 people don't always like to use imagination. 😉
@leoni7649
@leoni7649 4 ай бұрын
@@nicolapellegrino1072 yes you have to show something, but that alone is not enough. Xbox have been showing a lot of games, but when people get to play them, they are really disappointing. Starfield, Redfall, Halo infinite, and more. All of them way inferior than xbox fans deserved
@LoneWolfGamer06
@LoneWolfGamer06 4 ай бұрын
I think the 2tb Series X looks nice but if you already have one, it's not necessary.
@mikeuk666
@mikeuk666 4 ай бұрын
Same as when the Nintendo Switch brought out the oled version... folks who mostly play docked won't buy it but it's another option
@LoneWolfGamer06
@LoneWolfGamer06 4 ай бұрын
@mikeuk666 yeah if I you don't have the X then 2tb is a good option. Same with Switch Oled
@tonymcnamee2741
@tonymcnamee2741 4 ай бұрын
I would love a Series X in white with a disc drive and 2 or 3 tb. It seems odd to have a disc edition with more HDD space than the digital options.
@williamphillips2671
@williamphillips2671 4 ай бұрын
The all digital has more space though
@IcyPolarBear369
@IcyPolarBear369 4 ай бұрын
Now just make a Xbox Series S with a disc drive.
@lasthopelost9090
@lasthopelost9090 4 ай бұрын
Even though that would make sense at this point the problem is it would fall in with the 1tb model at the same price with less memory doesn’t make sense
@TheDunbartxeen
@TheDunbartxeen 4 ай бұрын
oh it does male sense. perfect for backwards compatibility games. would insta buy one
@JustinTheGreat
@JustinTheGreat 4 ай бұрын
@@TheDunbartxeen There were rumors a disc drive add on was coming. And it ain't here!
@CouchCoach
@CouchCoach 4 ай бұрын
And the external ssd is still more than twice as expensive as a ssd for ps5.
@KaiSchSp
@KaiSchSp 4 ай бұрын
Xbox should finally update their controller to include gyro aiming. Xbox is such a big first person shooter machine at this point. Playing Doom, Halo and CoD with proper gyro aim on a console? Yes please! I'd actually use my xbox again if they added that.
@khalidhashmi9772
@khalidhashmi9772 4 ай бұрын
Wait, what? Gyrocontrols? The thing everyone hated during the early ps3 days so that the controller got replaced with a proper dualshock pretty quickly?
@Moskeeto
@Moskeeto 4 ай бұрын
@@khalidhashmi9772 Gyro controls are the closest way to get the precision of mouse aiming on a controller. It's how I play every shooter on my PC now since it allows me to play with a comfortable controller in hand while also being able to play without the built-in cheats (aim assist).
@KaiSchSp
@KaiSchSp 4 ай бұрын
@@khalidhashmi9772 I don't really know what you mean, but gyro aim these days is as precise as playing with mouse and keyboard.
@khalidhashmi9772
@khalidhashmi9772 4 ай бұрын
@@KaiSchSpIf I hear gyro I'm thinking Lair on PS3😅
@pixeljauntvr7774
@pixeljauntvr7774 4 ай бұрын
​@@khalidhashmi9772 Gyro has a substantial user base on PC through steam. It's good for first person shooters.
@carlosoto1115
@carlosoto1115 4 ай бұрын
$600 dollars 💸 yea no way i rather spend it on the PS5 PRO
@mmmmccccccc
@mmmmccccccc 4 ай бұрын
Don't waste your money on useless Pro models. Consoles must exist with only one model to last 5-6 years
@shayanali8771
@shayanali8771 4 ай бұрын
​@@mmmmcccccccthe PS5 pro will launch anyway.
@mmmmccccccc
@mmmmccccccc 4 ай бұрын
@@shayanali8771 and it will be a useless and expensive launch. they need to release games, not useless mid-gen games
@deathtrooper2048
@deathtrooper2048 4 ай бұрын
​@@shayanali8771Says who?
@AliAbidalkareem
@AliAbidalkareem 4 ай бұрын
They said in the game showcase they are working on the next gen hardware. A handheld is probably in the works too so their hardware business isn’t going anywhere.
@SweeploRoblo
@SweeploRoblo 4 ай бұрын
2:57 Just straight up lies from Microsoft. Most of the time the physical version is cheaper, often significantly so.
@G360LIVE
@G360LIVE 4 ай бұрын
They're only referring to the retail price at launch, and at launch, digital is the same price as physical, so it's just as affordable. I'm not defending this, by the way; I'm just telling you how their lawyer would spin it if you tried to sue them.
@2greenify
@2greenify 4 ай бұрын
Not one of my friends buy physical games anymore. Most buy games in cheaper regions, activate using VPN and play normally in their own region. Elden ring for example was 16 bucks when launched this way. Much cheaper than physical, even when you can sell it for a good price.
@JohnSmith-bt4lf
@JohnSmith-bt4lf 4 ай бұрын
This is highly dependent on location. In the US, it is usually cheaper at launch to go digital simply by pretending to be in Oregon to avoid sales tax, which you'd have to pay on physical copies.
@reyjimenz
@reyjimenz 4 ай бұрын
Bullshit
@SweeploRoblo
@SweeploRoblo 4 ай бұрын
You're not wrong, the "official" retail price will be the same, but many shops/sites will still sell the physical copy for cheaper prices, at least compared to buying directly from Microsoft or Sony's stores anyway. That doesn't even take into account used copies. I couldn't begin to list the number of digital games that still go for stupid prices but can be picked up for little to nothing on the used market.
@miserj
@miserj 4 ай бұрын
Every time they say “trash can” I think 2013 Mac Pro not the Xbox…
@TJ-vh2ps
@TJ-vh2ps 3 ай бұрын
I suspect that is one reason Microsoft didn’t go with that design: neither is a good association. 😂
@F0n53ca
@F0n53ca 4 ай бұрын
It blows my mind on why a digital version of a 4 yo console doesn't have 2TB, you know, to be real competition to their rival ps5, is a 1 tb of memory so expensive to add to the board?
@rometherevenant8749
@rometherevenant8749 4 ай бұрын
I want the galaxy black model. Looks nice to me.
@MikeZablo
@MikeZablo 3 ай бұрын
This is for me .. I’ve sold my xsx.. got xss till xsx all digital will release because most of my Xbox games are digital.. I’m tired of swapping discs.. but I love physical games- still collecting for ps3, ps4, ps5, ps vita & switch.. 1/3 on those platforms I have digital games So just Xbox & Steam deck all digital for me
@duderdude4831
@duderdude4831 4 ай бұрын
Who said you're supposed to be super excited? It's a refresh of their lineup, not a new console.
@HYDRAdude
@HYDRAdude 4 ай бұрын
Price drops back in the day were huge news and even game changers. The PS3 for example only overtook the 360 because of the launch of the slim model.
@duderdude4831
@duderdude4831 4 ай бұрын
@HYDRAdude this gen neither Sony or MS are dropping the prices much because the build cost hasn't become significantly cheaper
@kieran.grant_
@kieran.grant_ 4 ай бұрын
The original digital PS5 was actually a flat $400, so $50 less than this Xbox
@xxnike0629xx
@xxnike0629xx 4 ай бұрын
This is a missed opportunity. Xbox should've done more other than offering more storage. What they could've done is updated the form factor to have an optional disc drive the PS5 Slim instead of adding 3 more Xbox Series SKUs. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a small APU and/or an updated disc drive.
@daysgone2997
@daysgone2997 4 ай бұрын
3 more consoles, same games, why would anyone pay $600 for a new xbox? maybe cos its 2tb and cod is 300gb
@lordxboss5700
@lordxboss5700 4 ай бұрын
Could be worse 🤷🏻‍♂️ pay $500 for a PS5 with No games and then buy COD for $70 🤪 COD BO6 isn't 300GB that's just the usual Xbox Tax in effect
@2greenify
@2greenify 4 ай бұрын
​Getting old to start over everything a console war. Ts asked a good question.l I think the price difference and storage kinda match. @@lordxboss5700
@daysgone2997
@daysgone2997 4 ай бұрын
@@lordxboss5700 like i ask all xbox losers do a list of xbox games ghis generation and a list of PlayStation games , this usually shuts you clowns up 🤡
@ASx2608
@ASx2608 4 ай бұрын
@@lordxboss5700you know you’re paying BO6 with that gamepass you pay monthly. It is confirmed that it’s 300GB on the microsoft store on xbox. Also why are you shilling for a company? stop it.
@Cloudiroth123
@Cloudiroth123 4 ай бұрын
@@ASx2608I agree, the only streaming service I have is Prime but that’s because it comes with the shipping. I don’t really use it. I think Gamepass is just like most subscription services getting us more and more comfortable with owning nothing. I’d rather have the license on the disc than connected to an account for my favorite games. Same goes for movies. If we go into an all subscription or digital only future I’m content with what I own.
@ShanGamer1981
@ShanGamer1981 4 ай бұрын
I got a series x already , lemme know when the xbox handheld comes out
@rinkumultani6515
@rinkumultani6515 4 ай бұрын
i dont get it why remove the disk drive when we can download digital games anyway or disk based ps5 or series x. disk drive is good cos sometimes u can find much more cheep games on retail shops compare to ps stores or Microsoft store
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 4 ай бұрын
That’s the point! More gamers will buy via their store hence they make more money
@rinkumultani6515
@rinkumultani6515 4 ай бұрын
@@sumomaster5585 if that was the point then they should not release disk base system at all
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 4 ай бұрын
@@rinkumultani6515 you can't do that whilst ps still does, bad pr and marketing
@Skullet
@Skullet 4 ай бұрын
You answered your own question. Removing the disk drive also removes the ability for consumers to buy games cheaper at retail stores, now you're forced to pay Microsoft full price. Last gen they tried to stop gamers from lending games to friends or buying games 2nd hand, if they'd gotten away with it and Xbox One had sold well then there would be no disk based Xbox consoles this generation.
@rinkumultani6515
@rinkumultani6515 4 ай бұрын
@@Skullet how did i answered my own question? and i did not ask any question in the first place. i just stated the facts that there is no point in release all digital when they are releasing disk at the same time. they are just robbing the people by removing disk but selling at higher price the same system. in the end all that go for all digital will lose more money in the long run
@luiscantu4968
@luiscantu4968 4 ай бұрын
I think the Xbox team expects a surge in console sales after the showcase. These new Xbox options although additive to current consoles, opens the options to new customers
@thug-21
@thug-21 4 ай бұрын
The og digital edition was $399. The newer version because of the dye change is $50 more. I'm sure sony will figure out a way to get it back down to $399.
@vickybengali
@vickybengali 4 ай бұрын
This xbox console will sell like hot cakes.
@dusermiginte4647
@dusermiginte4647 4 ай бұрын
Nice profile pic. There are to many to choose from these day though. 💪💚👍
@deltaforce01
@deltaforce01 4 ай бұрын
The PS5 Pro will be priced the same as the Series X 2TB model, you heard it first from me.
@jurassictyrantkingYT
@jurassictyrantkingYT 3 ай бұрын
At least the older Xbox series X is making sales in Central Texas again. Ever since the announcement of the new consoles the SERIES X has been sold out in my area.
@MrBreakthompson
@MrBreakthompson 4 ай бұрын
Watching Xbox from the sidelines was funny at first, now it's just painfull.
@williamphillips2671
@williamphillips2671 4 ай бұрын
Well you’re dumb then
@MadBrit26
@MadBrit26 4 ай бұрын
The marketing team at Microsoft is utter crap- starting with the naming convention confusion. Xbox 360. Xbox one, Xbox One x, Series S, Series X !!! The next Xbox needs to be a single version and call it Xbox 6 job done!
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 4 ай бұрын
or just use iphone scheme, xbox and xbox pro
@georgeberthiaume4496
@georgeberthiaume4496 4 ай бұрын
1 tb storage for xbox in Canada is 230 plus tax so don't see an issue with price
@LilFaceVEVO
@LilFaceVEVO 4 ай бұрын
Waste of money 😂
@MarkMcDaniel
@MarkMcDaniel 4 ай бұрын
This isn't "New" hardware in the way it matters. What people are wondering is if XBox has a next generation of hardware in the works. What is a half generation "pro" model isn't "new" hardware in the way it matters.
@billclay2701
@billclay2701 4 ай бұрын
Series S should be $199. THe new X with 2tb should be $399. Pick up the pace. There's hardly a reason to buy and xbox anyway if you have a switch, ps5 n PC. But I'd seriously consider a $199 series S just to have one.
@balaam_7087
@balaam_7087 4 ай бұрын
^this.
@IMDLEGEND
@IMDLEGEND 4 ай бұрын
I agree. $199 series S would have an impact. That is almost impulse level purchase.
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 4 ай бұрын
would be great, but there's a limit to how much losses they can likely take. There's hardly a reason to own a ps5 as well, so why do you have one?
@billclay2701
@billclay2701 4 ай бұрын
@@sumomaster5585 I got it to catch up on ps3 and ps4 titles, I skipped those after the incredible ps2. Went to the 360 then to PC. PS5 is a great place to play older sony only titles. In fact its a real PS4 pro. Current gen is a wash for the xbox and PS. We will get good games in the last throws of these boxes.
@billclay2701
@billclay2701 4 ай бұрын
@@sumomaster5585 We really don't know what 'losses' any of these companies really take. KZbin content creators have the 'expert' tag going along with them but they aren't upper management of any of thee companies.
@T0nyGTSt
@T0nyGTSt 4 ай бұрын
one of the biggest takeaways i had is that they persist in using proprietary storage upgrades,,,, it says Microsoft still doesnt 'get it' and they gotta double down... if they just went the same as ps5 i'd be more attractive a buy but if they keep doing this, i'm never buying an xbox
@unjustkatana
@unjustkatana 4 ай бұрын
I don't think it is woth discussing, It's just one more option. Don't worry about the prices they will get adjusted with little bit of time, end of discussion.
@DoomyRei
@DoomyRei 4 ай бұрын
Waste of time and money to force people to be digital and give up there rights to resell a d for discounts
@lactobacillusprime
@lactobacillusprime 4 ай бұрын
The white will be yellow eventually…. Sooner than you thing.
@pwd1134
@pwd1134 4 ай бұрын
Yes. ALL white plastic yellows over time. What's your point?
@Roboto82
@Roboto82 4 ай бұрын
If you smoke
@AJJJ-co2vd
@AJJJ-co2vd 4 ай бұрын
We wanted an Xbox pro for quality and performance. We got Xbox w storage and all digital so we always pay $69.99 what a bargain
@HablaConOwens
@HablaConOwens 3 ай бұрын
New digital series x at 449 gives me hope that the next console generation will get 20 or more ram for 500.
@parker73724
@parker73724 3 ай бұрын
This is exactly like the one at all digital where everyone couldn't understand why they would pay more for a console without discs.
@IMDLEGEND
@IMDLEGEND 4 ай бұрын
I was more excited by the leaked docs. It appeared they were going to give you 2TB all digital for $500. That was more appealing to me. The real story is that if you want to go physical on Xbox you now have to spend $600. Also it would have been nice if Xbox copied the PlayStation route and offered the ability to buy the disc drive separately also.
@olijackson3870
@olijackson3870 4 ай бұрын
I happened to skip the Xbox showcase just because I was working. I follow game news pretty closely but had to look for a bit after I got home from work to discover that there was new Xbox hardware. No buzz
@oblivieon1567
@oblivieon1567 4 ай бұрын
I think the consoles are fine, they're just offering options but don't particularly care if you buy one. They really have put a lot of effort into PC Game Pass. It started with 100 or so games, it's now up over 450 which is wild! The biggest problem with MS is they always have and seemingly always will do a terrible job at communicating features.
@AxelAlexK
@AxelAlexK 4 ай бұрын
Still have not upgraded my VCR xbox one. If they have Series X's with disc drive for 350 bucks this holiday I think I'm going to finally buy one.
@markerichannelly
@markerichannelly 4 ай бұрын
These consoles are 4 years old. Still asking for MSRP is a joke. Series X White should have a disc drive and cost 399, the S should be 150. MS know they'll make money from Gamepass.
@themblan
@themblan 4 ай бұрын
Where’s the Sebile controller?
@TheMa5cmpb
@TheMa5cmpb 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s coming out. It’ll be dumb to realize a new controller in the middle of a generation.
@ChesterMeadows
@ChesterMeadows 4 ай бұрын
Already have an s, ps5 and switch so not buying an x although would be nice. I'll save another 500 for the nextgen from here thx. At least we know now that xbox does actually have a future. Great showcase👏 it only took you 17 years😂
@jamez62982
@jamez62982 4 ай бұрын
Kudos to Xbox for not continuing the awful trend of pro models. Series S though was a mistake imo.
@urmomma2688
@urmomma2688 4 ай бұрын
Ikr. They don't need a new console because they are already breaking sales records /S if it wasn't obvious
@Shirou8492
@Shirou8492 4 ай бұрын
Kudos to them throwing in the towel
@jamez62982
@jamez62982 4 ай бұрын
@@urmomma2688 Yeah because a new hardware would make them money lol Like Sony with VR 😂
@urmomma2688
@urmomma2688 4 ай бұрын
@@jamez62982 the best way of making money is releasing no new hardware. How didn't they think of that 😳
@nonnygb
@nonnygb 4 ай бұрын
They should have just gotten Seagate/WD to lower the price of the external SSD and released a few more options for those console wraps like the one the brought out for Starfield.
@woofaki5550
@woofaki5550 4 ай бұрын
I will tell you right now that the "regular model" will be extremely hard to be found,not many will be made....and will stealthily be phased for sure.
@soraaoixxthebluesky
@soraaoixxthebluesky 4 ай бұрын
If they remove the disc altogether then there’s not point of having an Xbox in future. PC can do everything that Xbox can do. Same titles, upgradable spec, multi functionality at a just slightly higher cost.
@mrfilcritic
@mrfilcritic 4 ай бұрын
With gamepass existing on PC and all Xbox games being on PC, I struggle to justify buying an Xbox. Considered picking one up only for backwards compatibility with many Xbox 360 discs so I might get one before there are no more Disc Xbox consoles. Might get a used one x on ebay.
@mikeuk666
@mikeuk666 4 ай бұрын
Because a decent pc is x3 the cost
@CyberClu
@CyberClu 4 ай бұрын
The only reason I'd be interested in getting a series X is because some games still run better on console than PC, because the developer will probably never truly optimize the game on PC (Jedi Survivor).
@shayanali8771
@shayanali8771 4 ай бұрын
You first said that game pass existed on PC, so I assume you already have a PC? Why would you buy a console to play older games when your PC can do that? 😂.
@accountteam9859
@accountteam9859 4 ай бұрын
​@@mikeuk666Wrong, you can get an RX 6700 and a Ryzen 5 5500 both for $450 and then the rest of the computer parts for a total of ~$700.
@accountteam9859
@accountteam9859 4 ай бұрын
​@@CyberCluStar Wars: Jedi Survivor has constant frame drops to 55 FPS, stutters, and even after the newest patch it still has a bit of Screen-Tearing on non-VRR screens and a render resolution of 936p - 1008p. How is that a good example of "optimization"? Pick another game, that one is messed up on all platforms.
@VampireNoblesse
@VampireNoblesse 4 ай бұрын
I have Xbox OG, 360 & Co games on disk.., an all digital Xbox console is out of the question for me!
@TheMa5cmpb
@TheMa5cmpb 3 ай бұрын
I think Sony has the better option. You can buy the digital version to save money then buy the disk drive later if you need that.
@arctic_gaming-6187
@arctic_gaming-6187 4 ай бұрын
499, 399, 299 Microsoft!
@ashleyhorton1042
@ashleyhorton1042 4 ай бұрын
At least the ps5 pro has more power this is just lame
@mmmmccccccc
@mmmmccccccc 4 ай бұрын
If a PS5 pro ever exists it will be useless and expensive. The consoles were born to make an entire generation 5-6 years. We need games, not mid consoles
@tedunseth3966
@tedunseth3966 4 ай бұрын
It's not a lot more powerful. CPU is basically the same as the X but they did make the ram faster. It's really a 16TF console. 13-14TF for shading(45% PS5 uplift) and 3TF for ML. The good news is it could bring out the best in the XSX that has been held back all gen. These Xbox consoles were dummy units. Maybe they upgraded the internals to be announced when Sony announces the PRO. I think there is more to this $600 Special Edition outside of just storage. They could always toss in a faster 7000 mb/s SSD inside. It would only be used for load times only, but could entice some to upgrade. Who knows
@wiseman4953
@wiseman4953 4 ай бұрын
All people want if you want big sales is a slim from all parties with a disc drive considerably cheaper. Both PS and MS showed hands and it is not happening. Sales quantity wont be anywhere near Switch or PS2 cause pricing out mass consumers.
@philharrison2991
@philharrison2991 4 ай бұрын
Instead of Microsoft showing us the Sebile Controller, they showed these.
@Muppet-hk4uk
@Muppet-hk4uk 4 ай бұрын
2tb for 50 less than a 1tb and an expansion card good news for as a dad with kids wanting more space
@robertolbert3585
@robertolbert3585 3 ай бұрын
they basically created a problem (proprietary expensive storage options) and now selling cheaper (still expensive) solution in form of 2TB Series X. 1TB SSDs for PS5 starting around 80€. 449+80=529€ for 2TB digital only PS5. This reveal is honestly another self-inflicted wound by MS
@Muppet-hk4uk
@Muppet-hk4uk 3 ай бұрын
I mean not bothered as I don't play on ps 5 and not do my kids but I understand what you mean
@TigerTT
@TigerTT 4 ай бұрын
I'll pay exactly $0.00 and upgrade my gaming PC instead lmao.
@HunteronaBudget
@HunteronaBudget 4 ай бұрын
To be honest, these "new" models works with the rumors for an actual new console coming out in 2026. Why would Microsoft spend money on redesigning the Series models when a newer model is on its way
@k2000kidd1
@k2000kidd1 4 ай бұрын
Went for a Series X at launch but needed a VERY specific Tv to unlock all the boxes, couldnt do 120hz or DolbyVision til i spent another 1200 on a decent TV
@michiganjack1337
@michiganjack1337 4 ай бұрын
Didn't the series S already come in white?
@GhoulSolo___
@GhoulSolo___ 4 ай бұрын
Yea
@IMDLEGEND
@IMDLEGEND 4 ай бұрын
Yes but that was the 512GB edition. This new one is 1TB, which is the same size as the carbon black series S.
@danielibanez9475
@danielibanez9475 3 ай бұрын
I thought the trash can model was gone but looks like they just made white and square 😆
@jasonseals9198
@jasonseals9198 4 ай бұрын
There's two white one's without a disk drive but there's only one black one with a disk drive, something is missing... Maybe a handheld with a disk drive? Could they do that?
@TheKing8608_
@TheKing8608_ 4 ай бұрын
Dude the regular series X is black and the Carbon Series S that came out last September smh
@jasonseals9198
@jasonseals9198 4 ай бұрын
@@TheKing8608_ yes but they are discontinuing the black series s, could they release a black handheld in its place?
@markwilliams8492
@markwilliams8492 2 ай бұрын
The new refreshed XBOX Consoles are more expensive. The 2020 Series S was around $300.00 now $350.00 due to the added storage might as well wait until next gen save money hope the next one has games the prices are insane
@moosevelt9148
@moosevelt9148 4 ай бұрын
2:00 where are ppl finding $399 xbox series x? or did he mean used?
@DeesBees85
@DeesBees85 4 ай бұрын
It was on sale for $399 very recently in the U.S. also, in Europe where Xbox sells even worse I get their sales are even more extreme.
@AlexRocks80s80s
@AlexRocks80s80s 4 ай бұрын
What has Xbox done to warrant these ridiculous prices?
@peteparker22
@peteparker22 4 ай бұрын
Why buy these when you can save for the superior Ps5 pro?
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 4 ай бұрын
if you want graphics, why are you playing on consoles??! they are for connivence not graphics
@dusermiginte4647
@dusermiginte4647 4 ай бұрын
Why buy the rumored ps5 pro in 2025 when you can buy the next gen Xbox in 2026?
@Shinjiduo
@Shinjiduo 3 ай бұрын
@@sumomaster5585 You can enjoy a boost in graphics even on a console? Then you have have convenience with better graphics and performance! 👍 Do not worry about what other people do with their money.
@FilmTrekk
@FilmTrekk 4 ай бұрын
I will drop gaming as a hobby once it goes all digital.
@David-ln8qh
@David-ln8qh 4 ай бұрын
You do you but I'm skeptical every time I hear that. I think it scares people more than it'll end up actually hurting them but there are always exceptions, to be fair.
@FilmTrekk
@FilmTrekk 4 ай бұрын
@@David-ln8qh There are other things I can do with my time. and I guess I always have my retro games to play if so!
@m1tch506
@m1tch506 4 ай бұрын
I dont see the point in an all digital series x, as ive seen the regular series x for under 400. And i dont get what is meant by the trash can
@paulkinder8440
@paulkinder8440 4 ай бұрын
They are referring to the cylindrical shape of what the all digital console was supposed to look like.
@m1tch506
@m1tch506 4 ай бұрын
@@paulkinder8440 oh ok I know what you mean
@waynerice4918
@waynerice4918 4 ай бұрын
Wait until Christmas time it will be on sale. Because last Christmas Xbox series X was on sale for 349.00. I bought the Xbox series X for 349.00 with disc drive.
@mmmmccccccc
@mmmmccccccc 4 ай бұрын
At least Microsoft gives you a lot of choice and makes its console last for 5-6 years, unlike Sony who only thinks about selling you a useless Pro model
@gothpunkboy89
@gothpunkboy89 4 ай бұрын
What?
@mmmmccccccc
@mmmmccccccc 4 ай бұрын
@@gothpunkboy89 Microsoft will make the entire generation with the same hardware. instead Sony wants you to buy a useless Pro model. Sony anti-consumers
@mmmmccccccc
@mmmmccccccc 4 ай бұрын
@@gothpunkboy89 Sony should do like Microsoft, think about games not about stupid and useless Mid-gen
@gothpunkboy89
@gothpunkboy89 4 ай бұрын
@@mmmmccccccc But it isn't useless. Releasing the same console but more expensive is questionable.
@mmmmccccccc
@mmmmccccccc 4 ай бұрын
@@gothpunkboy89 Since the consoles were born there has been only one model for an entire generation. We don't finance these mid-gen. they don't make sense
@disco4178
@disco4178 4 ай бұрын
Of course they're the same. It saves money. Smart. Rumors are probably true that they come out with the next gen before Playstation.
@jacklawsen6390
@jacklawsen6390 4 ай бұрын
Glad to see the Xbin thrown out. Still not buying any discless system w/purely DRM-based distribution, though.
@strider6425
@strider6425 4 ай бұрын
With PS5 Pro just around the corner people would be more excited for a price cut than getting more of the same. At least were getting some amazing looking games though
@killerpwned89
@killerpwned89 4 ай бұрын
You guys should think about doing tear downs of consoles and discussing what you find interesting.
@balaam_7087
@balaam_7087 4 ай бұрын
They already do that.
@PaulOniel534
@PaulOniel534 4 ай бұрын
I knew the trash can was a decoy
@FreeAimDog
@FreeAimDog 4 ай бұрын
i normally play games with my hands on the controller and keep my foot on the keyboard so i can hold down space bar with my toe and fast forward through in video ads. it came in handy alot with all the in video vpn ads and shaving ads.
@clarknovalis
@clarknovalis 4 ай бұрын
I think those prices say it all. Xbox doesn't think it can move a lot of units so it's trying to get higher margins on each one. The different skus are revealing too: all digital white XSX is aimed to owners of XSS who want to upgrade and keep the colour, white 1TB XSS is for those who wanted a XSS with a bigger SSD but didn't like the carbon colour, and XSX with 2TB ssd is just for higher spending people who want the premium, but are irrelevant in terms of sales (it's also a limited edition). Basically all those skus are aimed to people who already are in the Xbox ecosystem. MS is just trying to squeeze everything they can from people who are already their customers. They lost the battle for new market with PlayStation and they know it.
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 4 ай бұрын
there's no new market, hence the issue for consoles. the player base is the same 300-ish millions and it's remained the same. PS wouldn't be releasing to PC otherwise
@AdamsKi8181
@AdamsKi8181 4 ай бұрын
I wish they show a handheld very soon.
@dusermiginte4647
@dusermiginte4647 4 ай бұрын
Maybe at the Xbox Showcase at Gamescon this august? :)
@batman-cu1ep
@batman-cu1ep 4 ай бұрын
You know it's bad when hard-core xbox fans see no point in these "Upgrades".
@pwd1134
@pwd1134 4 ай бұрын
Not even Xbox has called this an "upgrade". Neither has any of the hosts in this video. It's not an upgrade, it's an option. Don't be confused. These are not meant for Xbox owners who already have an Xbox series s or x.
@mikeuk666
@mikeuk666 4 ай бұрын
Clueless
@batman-cu1ep
@batman-cu1ep 4 ай бұрын
@@pwd1134 are you buying one
@gelzamangitzaman1482
@gelzamangitzaman1482 4 ай бұрын
Xbox should ditch console bussness at this point
@lovmn38
@lovmn38 4 ай бұрын
I have the Xbox series S and PlayStation five digital slim free spider man 2 for sale at $400 at Best Buy couple of months ago and still got Nintendo Switch lite
@bobbobbins4877
@bobbobbins4877 4 ай бұрын
Noticed the haptic controller that was leaked seems to have been canned. Which is disappointing since it was the only part of those leaks that actually excited me.
@TheMa5cmpb
@TheMa5cmpb 3 ай бұрын
It doesn’t make sense to release a controller in the middle of a generation
@fwabble
@fwabble 4 ай бұрын
£599 - it's worth £349...
@offspringfan89
@offspringfan89 4 ай бұрын
Both 2TB Series X and 1TB Series S are at least $50 too expensive. I say at least because 512GB of the slow SSD (compared to Gen4 NVMe units) used on Xbox Series definitely doesn't cost $50 for Microsoft. These prices don't make any sense when your consoles is lagging in sales. Either Xbox execs are that stupid or they're playing some 4D chess that we're not aware of.
@AdmiralCal
@AdmiralCal 4 ай бұрын
I'm a ps guy and I just got a regular used series x in great condition for $250 lol
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik 4 ай бұрын
The Xbox Series X now adorably in white and without discdrive. Is 8K still on the box of the series X?
@Cybersekiro
@Cybersekiro 4 ай бұрын
Nah, but my PS5 box is still rocking that shiny 8K label 📦
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