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@Shimmed
@Shimmed 7 сағат бұрын
The next box will be the last box.
@Karol-g9d
@Karol-g9d 7 сағат бұрын
03 is very niche . Too costly . Copilot ? Nobody knows . Ms seem busy
@cosmicgamingunlimited
@cosmicgamingunlimited 7 сағат бұрын
I think Microsoft will go arm with gigantic AI tech.
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 7 сағат бұрын
Graphics are already so good it doesn't matter, Nvidia matters cuz of portability...if they can take ARM designs we can have portable gaming chips, but the issue is backwards compaitablity...can they make this work if they change Intel x86 to Arm ??
@ihormanzii
@ihormanzii 7 сағат бұрын
That’s quite interesting. Microsoft has two options. 1) Stick with NVIDIA, which offers the best GPU solutions and technology, including DLSS and frame-generation. 2) Release an ARM architecture console and go in that direction. However, I don’t see how they can truly utilize cutting-edge GPU technologies. It seems like they lack an equivalent to DLSS, FSR, or PSSR. Regardless, I believe next-generation gaming should definitely have 60fps and ray-tracing capabilities. NVIDIA frame-generation could be a game-changer. So, Project Amethyst could compel Microsoft to collaborate with NVIDIA even if they incur losses in the process, but they could eventually take the lead.
@sumomaster5585
@sumomaster5585 7 сағат бұрын
Graphics are already so good it doesn't matter, Nvidia matters cuz of portability...if they can take ARM designs we can have portable gaming chips, but the issue is backwards compaitablity...can they make this work if they change Intel x86 to Arm ??
@garydiamondguitarist
@garydiamondguitarist 7 сағат бұрын
We have learned that everyone gave up on the PS5 halfway through the generation, including the engineers who made it, but Sony still made out like bandits on all the hardware even when it was a bit disappointing and didn't have enough games. Basically Sony's contribution to the whole ninth gen, I'd say.
@FreeAI777
@FreeAI777 7 сағат бұрын
Does Microsoft still care about Xbox as a console? 🤔
@cheporestrepo
@cheporestrepo 7 сағат бұрын
They dont even care about being the best, thats why they mediocre
@hggfhh4449
@hggfhh4449 7 сағат бұрын
Is it more powerful than the switch ?
@grantlauzon5237
@grantlauzon5237 7 сағат бұрын
I am concerned about AI art... This will make AI art and Deep Fakes better because they can start from a structure and build it from the ground up instead of trying to render the whole thing outright. When drawing a you start with simple shapes and add detail as you progress whereas AI just adds detail and damn the consequences. The laces on boots are usually wrong on AI images where if a human was going to go through the effort of adding laces to a drawn boot they'd might as well do it right.
@Kirk-c5t
@Kirk-c5t 8 сағат бұрын
Pretty sure they have the money and talent to extend DirectX however they need to match AMD+Sony. That doesn’t mean they will, but they can.
@VampireNoblesse
@VampireNoblesse 8 сағат бұрын
if TESVI or Fallout 5 could use such somehow for NPC or companion dialogues / behaviour
@RiderZer0
@RiderZer0 8 сағат бұрын
As a PC player who will not buy a console to get one game early….. We gonna get GTA 6 before I get GTA 6 😭
@HoneyLemon5420
@HoneyLemon5420 8 сағат бұрын
Could the next Xbox have a Nvidia CPU and a AMD GPU?
@nujiyoma
@nujiyoma 7 сағат бұрын
Nvidia doesnt make CPUs
@im415again
@im415again 8 сағат бұрын
Xbox wins again
@ZeroTheHunter
@ZeroTheHunter 8 сағат бұрын
Since the ps5 pro price fiasco, is amazing how desperate pseudo humans will go to the point of populating DF with fake accounts specificaly targeting hate to the xbox brand lmao. I think xbox should focus more on building a specific software on windows to make gaming more comfortable, since i really dont see them in the next generarion making consoles anymore, they destroyed the opportunity with the "this is a xbox" campaign, but they will join the market of portable consoles, if that happens they probably will go for something that is actually profitable while being also powerful enough to run series s or plus games .
@gothpunkboy89
@gothpunkboy89 7 сағат бұрын
Really funny that you have to spin moon beams to cope.
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
What fiasco xbot?
@guapzilla8951
@guapzilla8951 8 сағат бұрын
2024s start: TLOU2 Remastered, Palworld, Helldivers 2, Gran Blue Fantady Relink, Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth, Persona 3 Reload, Rise of the Ronin vs a 2024 Indy game a GPU 😂😂😂
@djtomoy
@djtomoy 8 сағат бұрын
i love ai collabs
@thenobleyouthofmadness55
@thenobleyouthofmadness55 8 сағат бұрын
Simply put , ps5 pro is just too weak to handle the lighting.
@urazoktay7940
@urazoktay7940 8 сағат бұрын
Amazing video, thank you Digital Foundry.
@philipberlanda
@philipberlanda 8 сағат бұрын
It might mean that xbox and Playstation use the same chip or both have great chips depending on the time they release there consoles.
@Law3dog2009
@Law3dog2009 8 сағат бұрын
their*
@DOGMA1138
@DOGMA1138 7 сағат бұрын
They won't use the same chip, Sony integrates it's own IP into the SoC.
@XINTSUAI
@XINTSUAI 8 сағат бұрын
Will there be a next Xbox console?
@cyrus8886
@cyrus8886 8 сағат бұрын
Yes phil already confirmed it
@BeveledSpilchOnion
@BeveledSpilchOnion 9 сағат бұрын
Maybe no one should release a new console until it can natively render 4K without all the tricks. Sick of 4K and all the accompanying proprietary crap.
@gothpunkboy89
@gothpunkboy89 7 сағат бұрын
If your fine paying 1k for a console they can do that easily.
@PixelisedPaul
@PixelisedPaul 9 сағат бұрын
If any of this means I don’t have to click pictures of ducks when I try to claim my free Epic Games Store game, I’m all for it.
@polyglot84
@polyglot84 9 сағат бұрын
Microsoft is a Linux Foundation board member. They aren’t bothered by this. They are focusing your attention on gaming as they work with Western governments to attempt to cut off its competitors from using Linux to develop AI.
@Kzx828
@Kzx828 9 сағат бұрын
And oh snap, its out buddies from DigiFoundry🤔😎✊🏽
@Kzx828
@Kzx828 9 сағат бұрын
Not if their plans to put their next-gen OS on computers and mobile devices!🤷🏽‍♂️.
@Jak-z6x
@Jak-z6x 9 сағат бұрын
My thought is CDPR is Taking An shortcut and the witcher 4 will show the problems with UE 5
@mattmccaughen7371
@mattmccaughen7371 9 сағат бұрын
Xbox Gamepass is the future of gaming
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
@@mattmccaughen7371 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
@@mattmccaughen7371 Gamepass is the death of xbox
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
Gamepass is the death of xbox*
@xboxmaniac7443
@xboxmaniac7443 9 сағат бұрын
Leave everything behind with your next gen console if you want it to be next gen
@Katsu-v9y
@Katsu-v9y 9 сағат бұрын
I don't like the A.I. look of the generated images. It's too shiny and clean.
@xboxmaniac7443
@xboxmaniac7443 9 сағат бұрын
Nvidia will be the answer to Xbox let's get partnership with the best so you will be the best !
@RandyGreen-v9t
@RandyGreen-v9t 9 сағат бұрын
PLAYS BEST ON SUPERIOR PS5 PRO!!!!! MEGA L FOR HOMOBOX SERIES X GAYMERS!!!!!!!!
@mattmccaughen7371
@mattmccaughen7371 9 сағат бұрын
u need help
@WUKONGSerieS10GBofRAM
@WUKONGSerieS10GBofRAM 9 сағат бұрын
Xbox One's 57.9 million units sold are just over half of the PS4's 117 million, The PlayStation 5 has sold 60.16 million units in 44 months, while the Xbox Series X|S sold 29.64 million units. October 2024 Worldwide Console Sales PS5 11.19M, Nintendo Switch 7.59M, Xbox Series X|S 3.25M
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
@@mattmccaughen7371We can see your other comments on this channel xbot
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
@@mattmccaughen7371You believe in the mythical "xbox tax" 😂😂😂
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
⁠@@mattmccaughen7371We can see your other comments xbot
@h4x0y
@h4x0y 9 сағат бұрын
I see a big difference between 1. using AI to speed up game development, 2. AI to improve rendering, 3. using gen-AI instead of 3D rendering. I'm hoping we'll see a combination of 1 and 2, more so than 1 and 3.
@carlwheezer1544
@carlwheezer1544 9 сағат бұрын
you know its going to be 3, a lot of game artists will lose their jobs like myself
@h4x0y
@h4x0y 7 сағат бұрын
@@carlwheezer1544 I hope you don't lose your job over any of this. I believe in the saying that AI won't replace us, only those who won't adopt using it (if it has value in their line of work). Unless the day comes where anyone can prompt their ideal game or software for free, then we're all in trouble. But before that, from a game art perspective, I'm curious to see whether we'll lean towards using gen-AI to create beautiful raster worlds to render as usual, or towards realtime generated worlds/frames. Most people seem to think only of the latter (probably because of the popularity of Midjourney, Sora, etc.), but I don't see why generating 3D worlds isn't even better. Seems like gameplay will be more consistent and have fewer artefacts that way, as you can control the game world prior to releasing just as we do with handcrafted worlds now.
@prcastro42
@prcastro42 9 сағат бұрын
I think regardless of the direction, Xbox is going down the publisher route. Hardware is probably going to be the least focused thing.
@kingken8916
@kingken8916 9 сағат бұрын
Sounds like you're thinking small. Sarah Bond was talking about forward compatibility. Why does no one listened to the words that come out of people's mouths. The most advanced technological leap in a generation are her exact words with forward compatibility for your old games. If you start thinking in those terms then Arm is a possibility.
@Javier64691
@Javier64691 9 сағат бұрын
Sony collaborating with AMD is nothing new, this time is more of an official way of announcing it. Most of RDNA Ray tracing improvements can be trace to some help from Sony, so even Microsoft is benefiting from that partnership. This will probably mean that the most cutting edge technology will go to PlayStation first, like it was already, while Xbox is going to get more current gen hardware.
@MDXZFR
@MDXZFR 9 сағат бұрын
Go with Nvidia is always better
@ymi_yugy3133
@ymi_yugy3133 9 сағат бұрын
I think AMD is probably the most likely option, but ARM+Nvidia seems certainly possible. Backwards compatibility doesn't look like an insurmountable challenge. As far as I can find, there have been no Series S/X exclusives. They all had PC releases. So Microsoft could probably run the PC version on next gen consoles with automatically applied settings, like what Geforce Experience does. ARM would be a challenge, but I'm pretty sure a next gen ARM cores could match the aging Zen 2 Cores even under emulation. For the 360 games, emulation is probably viable. That leaves the few games from the Xbox One era that didn't get PC releases. They can probably hack together an emulator or stream them from the cloud. Sure having to use the often more buggy/stuttery PC releases, not to speak of Cloud streaming, will enrage your hardcore Xbox fan, but I could totally see Microsoft doing it anyways.
@DOGMA1138
@DOGMA1138 9 сағат бұрын
Intel has a pretty decent graphics IP right now, which makes them a decent option right now, we need to see how Battlemage scales upwards. And with consoles drivers isn't as much and an issue and still having an x86 still makes it easier for backward compat without a translation layer.
@zbigniew2628
@zbigniew2628 9 сағат бұрын
​@@DOGMA1138Look at the DIE size of Intel GPUs... No way they can make efficient consoles.
@DOGMA1138
@DOGMA1138 9 сағат бұрын
@@zbigniew2628 Battlemage reduced the die size by 33% and Intel is projecting a similar decrease for Celestial which is still coming late 2025.
@fafski1199
@fafski1199 8 сағат бұрын
Microsoft jumped from Nvidia to ATi (now AMD) when they went from the "OG" XBox to the XBox 360, without too much of an issue with backwards compatability. So, I can't really see there being much of an issue GPU wise, if they reversed that and went back to using a Nvidia GPU. It's still using the same X86-64 instruction set and architecture after all. Plus, compatabily software has vastly improved since back then. The very same goes with them jumping over to using Intel instead. However, jumping over to a ARM CPU might throw up a few issues here and there. Although a decently implemented translation layer should iron out most of the issues. Plus, Microsoft have already done a very simular thing already with Windows for ARM. I've gotta say though, if they did jump back to using Nvidia GPU's, then it would definatly hand to them a leading and invoative edge in gaming tech that they simply wouldn't get by sticking it out with AMD. Plus, it would also knock Sony firmly onto it's backfoot. Jumping over to Intel on the otherhand, then probably not so much so. Although, I've got to say that Intel's future Celestial and Druid GPU's do look pretty impressive (at least on paper).
@DOGMA1138
@DOGMA1138 7 сағат бұрын
@@fafski1199 There was no back compatibility between the 360 and the OG Xbox outside of select titles, because Microsoft moved from an x86 to PowerPC.... This isn't about the GPU but about the CPU.
@deadringer8050
@deadringer8050 9 сағат бұрын
i finally decided to just watch a gameplay movie and im glad i didnt buy it cause its really not that good of a game and falls way short of the 1st
@deadringer8050
@deadringer8050 9 сағат бұрын
doesn't matter when it starts making money its still a failure because it fell short of internal sales expectations
@happygofishing
@happygofishing 9 сағат бұрын
As a Linux user, I hope for Xbox to go the way of the dodo, as it leads to DirectX having less influence.
@MrAdam802
@MrAdam802 9 сағат бұрын
lol
@sadas25
@sadas25 8 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure getting rid of the main competition is a good thing in any circumstance. Giving a company a monopoly will only lead to worse games.
@batou1468
@batou1468 9 сағат бұрын
power usage scaling is also a limit that everyone seems to ignore.
@LeeLee-fi7mx
@LeeLee-fi7mx 10 сағат бұрын
Wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Amd lags behind Nvidia in terms of innovation. And look how long it took Amd to move to ML upscaling while even Intel has beat them by releasing XESS. Nvidia, Intel, or Qualcomm/Arm and Microsoft could make for a powerful next gen console.
@snaek12
@snaek12 10 сағат бұрын
For me right now PSSR looks terrible... better invest in to PC
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
@@snaek12 For me right now xbox games look terrible... better invest in a PS5
@snaek12
@snaek12 10 сағат бұрын
For me right now PSSR looks terrible... better invest in to PC
@zerosam5541
@zerosam5541 9 сағат бұрын
Its just a bootleg fsr created to sell ps5 pro for marketing's pissr will not recive updates to get better like fsr and dlss
@jacooosthuizen3593
@jacooosthuizen3593 9 сағат бұрын
2 out of 100 games look terrible and also runs like dog on a Nvidia 4090. Go to PC? How you gona play the biggest game this year called GTA 6?
@AA-vf9jb
@AA-vf9jb 9 сағат бұрын
​@@zerosam5541pssr is a trained model. Of course, they will keep updating
@Rithysak101
@Rithysak101 9 сағат бұрын
​@@zerosam5541is it really bootleg fsr if it looks better than fsr?
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 9 сағат бұрын
Is it? You are basing that on Silent Hill 2 and the like where developers for who knows which reason released it into the wilderness?
@mightyhadi6132
@mightyhadi6132 10 сағат бұрын
Probably if Xbox still want to make consoles they will probably take benefit from AMD GPU PC sides (ATI Radeon RX GPU ) unlike PlayStation which will benefit with consoles sides along with PC sides plus cheaper cost for producing direct costumes GPU design for PS6.
@MikeJJJemptybladder
@MikeJJJemptybladder 10 сағат бұрын
Xbox has the best controller
@THmusic420
@THmusic420 9 сағат бұрын
I personaly hate the newest, it do not fitt my hands and just feal bad. 360 was gold tho
@AdamMi1
@AdamMi1 9 сағат бұрын
No it doesn't. The dualsense features completely leave the stoneage xbox controller behind.
@-Down-D-Stairs-
@-Down-D-Stairs- 9 сағат бұрын
Dualsense haptic feedback and adaptive triggers make the Xbox controller inferior
@MikeJJJemptybladder
@MikeJJJemptybladder 9 сағат бұрын
@ I don’t find it as comfy and Rumble features always get instantly disabled along with inverting Y axis
@TheSparkynuts
@TheSparkynuts 9 сағат бұрын
Yeah I'll agree with that one
@UberNeuman
@UberNeuman 10 сағат бұрын
Why would anyone belive Xbox is going to be around in another gen....
@MrAdam802
@MrAdam802 9 сағат бұрын
Because they will be.
@WUKONGSerieS10GBofRAM
@WUKONGSerieS10GBofRAM 9 сағат бұрын
nextgen xbox..... after this haha After poor sales of the Xbox Series X/S, Microsoft has begun to shift its strategy towards being a broader Game Pass platform which can be accessed across multiple devices. This push has been clear for several years now, with many former Xbox exclusives making their way to other platforms, but it’s been reinforced in a new Xbox marketing campaign which downplays Xbox consoles in favour of phones and laptops. Microsoft will stop marketing Xbox consoles in Europe Microsoft Could Stop Pushing Xbox Consoles In Europe, Other Regions Microsoft stop marketing of Xbox consoles in EMEA and focus only on Game Pass, Cloud, PC and Xbox Controllers Xbox One's 57.9 million units sold are just over half of the PS4's 117 million, The PlayStation 5 has sold 60.16 million units in 44 months, while the Xbox Series X|S sold 29.64 million units. October 2024 Worldwide Console Sales PS5 11.19M, Nintendo Switch 7.59M, Xbox Series X|S 3.25M
@AliAbidalkareem
@AliAbidalkareem 7 сағат бұрын
Because we know there will be another gen.
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 7 сағат бұрын
@@MrAdam802Not for long xbot
@parz1pane772
@parz1pane772 10 сағат бұрын
it would be interesting to see Xbox partnering with intel this time around, seeing as how their gpu architectures are nothing to sneeze at. Just imagine a 8P core +2E core (for OS) + celestial GPU. Technically, as they'd still be on x86, back compat should be possible, no?
@parz1pane772
@parz1pane772 10 сағат бұрын
this way you'd also have the full 8 cores reserved for games instead of how it's done currently, where 1-2 cores are reserved for OS, making it so the ~ryzen 7 3700 those boxes use becomes effectively a Ryzen 5 3600...
@SethizFTW
@SethizFTW 10 сағат бұрын
@@parz1pane772 Possible but it would be a head ache for sure because a difference in drivers and API's between the different manufactures.
@zerosam5541
@zerosam5541 9 сағат бұрын
Thats dumb look at intel CPU bad idea AMD is king of apu
@ymi_yugy3133
@ymi_yugy3133 9 сағат бұрын
X86 to ARM emulation is pretty good these days. Emulating GPUs seems less easy. Intel GPU also seems unlikely, because they are very die inefficient. Intel is probably selling Battlemage at razor thin margins or more likely taking a loss on every GPU. I don't think they could afford that at the volume that a console demands or offer the price that console makers need.
@archetype6351
@archetype6351 9 сағат бұрын
@@parz1pane772 Sony refused to adopt rdna4 outright in the pro, instead choosing to go with an "rdna 2 with next gen features" hybrid, solely for back compat reasons. Same reasons why they didn't change the CPU much. I'm not saying Intel is a bad idea in general, but for back compat it most definitely seems to be.
@gregberkhof2953
@gregberkhof2953 10 сағат бұрын
Hi