DHEA Deep Dive

[@ibleedoranbla]

I know this video is a bit old, and this is probably a long shot, but I'm trying to find some correlation between DHEA and caffeine, and I seem to be coming up short. I've been dependent on caffeine for over a decade, and I mean fairly large amounts of caffeine every day. For example, for as long as I can remember, I start my day off with between 6-800mg of caffeine every morning and then another 3-500mg later in the afternoon as a preworkout. About a month ago, I had bloodwork done, and it came back that my DHEA levels were very low. I'm a 38 year old male. The Dr recommended that I start supplementing with 25mg of DHEA. So, I did, and about 2 weeks ago, I started to notice that I was experiencing EXTREME fatigue. It was literally painful to stay awake, along with extreme brain fog. I also started sleeping more in general, taking more frequent and longer naps, etc. Well, a couple of days ago, I started to notice that when I first woke up in the morning, I actually felt rather normal and awake. Much different before, almost like I didn't even need my usual massive caffeine dose but I would still take it anyway and within like 30 minutes of taking it that's when the fatigue and brain fog would start. So, I experimented the last couple of days by cutting my caffeine way back, down to around 150mg-200mg, and now I feel fine. No fatigue, no brain fog. I now feel, dare I say, pretty good. A month ago, I literally would not have been able to function on just 200mg of caffeine. So, have you ever heard of anything like this? Is this just a coincidence and something else is going on? Or has supplementing DHEA fixed something that I didn't even know needed fixing. Or am I just trying to find a correlation in something that has no correlation. If you have any further insight on this, I would be very grateful to hear about it. Thanks.

[@j.a.6866]

Interesting dude!! I know that excessive caffeine can impact your adrenals, as well as inhibit something (forgot the name) that tells you you’re tired. If you stop caffeine for a couple days your body releases these chemicals that can finally tell your body to sleep. It ingots hard when that happens. If DHEA impacts adrenals and this other chemical positively, they could be working to counter your effects of high caffeine consumption. Just my opinion based on many years of learning about these topics. (Not a professional)

[@NalenePecore]

I just started taking DHEA recommended by my Functional medicine doctor. Had a hysterectomy 6 years. On HRT - estrogen and progesterone. I recently tested low on testosterone and a little low on DHEA. She put me on 5mg of DHEA to see if this will help. Have had sleeping issues for a long time. Low energy. Having hair loss for years - it is up and down. Trying to see if this will help.

[@David-ot9tr]

What kind of doctor is this? I just like to know the qualifications of who I'm listening to.

[@TheTykus]

I don’t fault you for asking, and it can be helpful. But this is mattering less and less. And in some cases/topics, being “university trained” is a warning sign.

[@cashisking4691]

@@TheTykusspot on. Great point.

[@LauraMogollon-je6jj]

He is an Osteopath Doctor and gynecologist in Oklahoma

[@LoveABun]

Great video, Dr. Babb! Why don’t more U.S. prescription insurance plans include Intrarosa in their formularies, given how effective it is for GSM and how much it is prescribed by gynecologists and sexual med specialists like yourself? I have CVS Caremark. Despite their being one of the largest RX plans in the country, Intrarosa is not in their formulary! OOP cost is about $240/month minimum; not cheap for longterm use. Because of this lack of RX coverage, many women turn to online retailers to buy vaginal DHEA. I’ve seen a couple on Amazon with one being a pharmacist-formulated 6 mg suppository-clearly an attempt to compete with Intrarosa. And then there’s Julva cream marketed by a board-certified gynecologist. What are your thoughts on these products, please?

[@dr.coreybabb]

Great questions! I’m really not sure why insurance companies don’t cover it, but I do know that you can get it at Costco for around $88. It’s a wonderful medication, though, and if you can get it, works beautifully. As for the other products…well it’s definitely buyer beware.

[@kcsunnyone]

Big Pharma hates covering Rx for women’s health especially anything related to healthful living

[@Rcrdo072]

Can we try in little doze like 25mcg just to test and then stop if its doing negative effect, is the effect reversal?

[@alisonforster3579]

I feel like covid has made my fsh and lh extra abnormal high 120 and 85. This from what i jave read pionts to pituritry gland. And stipped my periods. Gp wont do anything 😢 i read that taking dhea can bring the levels down. Is this true. I know i am in my forties but i have no symptoms of menopause and i am trying for a baby.

[@kabsatdajaj]

I have same symptoms post covid. Along with very low Testo!. ! I'm suffeting. Just bougjt 10mg and 15 mg dhea to use on altetnate days. Will prob get 5 mg pregnenolong too. Let me know how it goes for you. ❤

[@TheRagbags1]

I am post huge stress of 4 years then a total hysterectomy and recently resumed HRT my cortisol is highish so I’m hoping a low dose of DHEA will help , only wary of hair loss / oestrogen dominance…at present SHBG high off range & FSH same !

[@redberries8039]

Anyone have an opinion on taking DHEA/Preg just 2 days a week (my heavy training day and day after)? I'm in good shape generally, but want to get an edge when i need it most. Accounting for the short half-life of the precursor hormones; It seems to make sense to me in terms of avoiding hormone 'resistance' and overuse, ...but does it make sense?

[@LoveABun]

Like the doctor says, you would have no way of knowing how much estrogens and/or androgens your body would absorb, so to me doing this would be a total crap shoot.

[@redberries8039]

@@LoveABun I guess you're right. I am only planning to take minimal doses 8mg preg 10mg DHEA 2x or 3x per week ..so was thinking at 50 years old that isn't going to tip me over any cliffs ??

[@dr.coreybabb]

Well pregnenolone is even more of a bazooka than DHEA, so it’s definitely a your-mileage-may-vary situation. I wouldn’t worry about resistance to the hormones, but I would caution usage

[@redberries8039]

@@dr.coreybabb cheers Doc

[@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions]

@@dr.coreybabb what do you mean by "bazooka"? I am from Europe FYI.

[@mariamessina550]

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