Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls - What is the best difficulty to play on? Updated Guide

[@jacobpierce7611]

Just started playing diablo for the first time and I had no idea what I was doing, but this vid and the gearing tutorials have really helped. You explained everything really well. The data you presented makes a really strong argument and I think we all appreciate what you are saying even more because of it. Thanks a bunch!!!

[@Rhykker]

Cheers man!

[@ShiryuCain]

bit late for commenting but since i'm watching a lot of your videos i'll comment here. I've started Diablo two weeks ago and finally got my lvl 70 wizard with a fire mirror hydra build. Then I stopped doing damages by starting adventure mode...guess T2 was a bit ambitious to pick.

[@Anton0915]

damn..he is VERY passionate about this game.

[@lilyhoch269]

I saw in the discussion of a blue post that the leg drop values were based on a formula so the 15% for torment holds up nicely, since you can calculate the leg drop for a given torment level simply by (1.15)^t where t is the level of torment. This is also consistent with most posted values I've seen confirmed. This may or may not fudge some of your values a bit since I haven't gotten to look at your table just yet. The interesting thing this also leads to is that you can only afford to spend 15% more time in each subsequent torment difficulty before losing farming efficiency (for legs). ie A 30 minute task on normal-master must be done within 34.5 on t1, 39.7 on t2, etc.

[@raynunn2909]

I love how you broke this all down for the people. I know this takes a long time to do, thank you so much! I subbed!

[@TheRealLink]

Thank you for explaining and going into detail on what must've been a lot of data to crunch. Very informative and helpful!

[@4d461]

Thanks for posting this. Nothing like solid stats to prove optimal strategy.

[@Rhykker]

Cheers!

[@TheDaneist]

From my own experience, I gauged what difficulty was optimal based on what I saw in-game. Torment 1 would often drop 1 rare (yellow) item per elite/rare mob packs as opposed to t3 which would consistently drop 3 rare items. I would still say that the legendary drop rates were about the same, maybe slightly better in t3 (as they should be) but the extra other random drops seal the deal for me because it means more salvageables and sellable items and also visibly demonstrates the better drop chances in effect to me. If i get a good group however, I will always play on t4 because mobs get rinsed the same, the only thing that takes noticeably longer is killing bosses which can take some time regardless of mode anyway. Currently do 1.8 million damage buffed and 4mill toughness buffed on my wizard, (unbuffed im around 1.3 mill damage and my profile is 980k which ofc deducts paragon and other various bonuses) Great enlightening video though, cheers.

[@Rhykker]

Cheers! Thanks for sharing.

[@cleverfoxpro]

Thanks for this! It was really useful to see the data visually

[@Rhykker]

Cheers! I'm glad.

[@ngrosskurth]

Why do you stop at T6? What about T7-13?

[@plethorex]

Great video as usual - most of the people in my clan firmly believe that the higher the torment, the faster the legendary acquisition, regardless if it takes them a half hour or more to clean a rift.

[@Rhykker]

Thanks! Now you can point them to these data hahah... But I know how you feel.

[@faltinyg]

Thank you Rhykker for the hard work

[@Rhykker]

Cheers!

[@timkulitschkow9074]

Can you maybe do a Guide for the Wizard, what spells to use, what gear with what stats (how many of all res), Paragon points? This would help me really out

[@Rhykker]

Sounds good! Thanks for the suggestion

[@Effectivebasketball]

I have DH when I play alone I don`t even feel difference between 1 to 5 and t6 it still easy runs. But when I get in to a group - couple of things happens first when I roll alone I kill almost everything with a group some one always rushing and living behind half of the monsters. Sometime I do half of the rift alone cause they just afk or doing some stuff or they can not hit harder than 10 mil. In ether case this way I taking me 2-3 times of effort meaning time etc. To complete (90%+ clean of monsters) rift than I do alone. Not mentioning that some one could close it right after rift guardian. So my question is should I farm alone ? DH need no help in damage and fast movement that obvious. I missing extra exp. and may be some loot. How much would be difference.? Thanks.

[@wisslermarshal]

hey Rhykker I remember when this video came out... any updated spreadsheet?

[@Jezza408]

Great video, keep up the amazing work :D

[@Rhykker]

Thank you!

[@MrDannyg77]

So if I understand correctly, first determine how long it takes a rift run in normal mode. Then go to say T1 and time it again. If the T1 run time is under what your chart would suggest it should take you, then you should stay on T1 or even consider going to T2. But if the run takes longer than your chart indicates, then you've lost efficiency and you should drop a level? Or should you go directly back to Normal?

[@Rhykker]

Bingo! Go directly back to Normal, or test it on the next lower difficulty.

[@Hawksnest1022]

Is this information still accurate? I have just started playing and I am having trouble obtaining gear, mostly because I think I am trying to play on a higher then I am geared for.

[@ЕмилЕфендулов]

Bo Hawkins Yes, the info is still good.

[@coolboy9650]

How about now?

[@slampog]

Thank you so much. Helped me a lot.

[@neopac]

very useful stuff on your channel... thanks for the effort,,, subbed

[@ShellessCloyster]

so im like a lvl 43 crusader, been playin for a ew days, alot of info to absorb. Ive finished the story on normal, should i progress the story in every tier i.e finish on hard then expert etc etc. Should i adventure mode for leveling and gear, what should i be looking at, opinions welcome please and thank you

[@XpVersusVista]

lol, sorry but i cant even play on normal or hard with my totally new chars, because it is too damn easy. those 2 difficulties are totally useless.

[@ianw7130]

Hey Rhykker, I have a quick question. You talk about completing a rift... how do you define that? Is it when the Rift boss is down or all the mobs are gone? That effects my completion times dramatically.

[@Rhykker]

Ian Woods Time to kill rift guardian :)

[@ianw7130]

***** Thanks Rhykker. I am on PS4 so I can't add Rhykker's raiders. Too bad. :(

[@Belgariath]

so if u manage to clear normal with %150 MF on. It's equal to T1? If u have more then %150 MF on you and clear normal at like half the time clearing with main geared(no MF) T1? Am I correct?

[@ollybarron7232]

Me and a friend are playing through the game on normal difficulty, and we are going to finish the game, then go back and do hard. Is this what we should do after normal?

[@Oratory1989]

So in other words, unless items become stronger/change, T1 will be most efficient for leg farming and it's only when it comes to exp/gold you want to go to a higher torment level?

[@Rhykker]

For legs, check this guide: Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls - Farming Legendary Items (How to Guide, 2.0.4, Most Legs per Hour)

[@2103DragonRider]

Thanks, you just saved me a lot of time :)

[@SuperLotus]

"We're not talking about [having] fun" ...oh 😥

[@Thyr4]

Thanks for the info. is it me or it seems that normal is the most efficient diff for everything? Unless hunting for Torment specific stuff. So it's either Normal or T1.

[@CelerityNova]

This is normal. Remember the MP system? Making the difficulty slider comes first, making it worth turning up comes Soon(tm).

[@Rhykker]

Once your gear is good enough, it becomes more efficient to farm on higher than Norm.

[@-whiskey-4134]

Increase the level every 13-17 levels starting on hard from level 1. Thats always worked for me

[@Lexvius]

Awesome. At the moment need Legendarys and Legendary Craft Mats, this should help

[@Rhykker]

Cheers!

[@jonathandawdy]

Hey ***** is there a chance you could help me by uploading a strong crusader build because my crusader can barely do torment 1 in 3 years with minimal deaths. Im not doing to hot on equipment but maybe with some tips I could improve. My skills iv chosen were based on forum suggestions but it just doesn't quite cut it.

[@drnrqsldch]

Hey one question! The MF stuff is very interesting, but for example, If I have a nagelring with 50% MF and the chance to put a 41% MF topaz on the helm, is it worth it or not? Because by now I don't have the nagel, one friend of mine does, but I wear the gem and yesterday I did like 5 o 6 runs in T1 rifts and didn't get any leg, while other guys of my team wearing 0 MF got almost a leg for each rift boss… What do you know about wearing MF? Thanks! And cool vids!!

[@drnrqsldch]

Oh if you check the new update most of xploits are nerfed D: you should revise some of the videos now! hehe

[@Oratory1989]

MF basically does not work with legendaries. I think it's something like 100% MF only gives you a 10% increase in legendaries.

[@ScumbagCurnow]

Oratory1989 and 10% is a significant amount. It's also multiplied on top of your torment bonuses. Since it's all percentages that same magic find is much more significant now since they buffed base leg find amount in rifts by 25%. Not sure why you would consider 10% not of statistical significance.

[@ScumbagCurnow]

and OP, unfortunately even if you had enough magic find to have 90% drop chance from a boss it would still be possible to smash 5 in a row with no legs. The magic find bonuses are worth it though if you do not lose too much dps.

[@Rhykker]

drnrqsldch Check this guide: only one of these runs doesn't work anymore :) Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls Fast Leveling, Gold Farming Exploit Guide: The Ultimate Run

[@milsvaard]

Rhykker, you're a fucking legend m8!

[@BradleyArth]

thanks for the great videos

[@Rhykker]

Cheers!

[@rikuheagle7648]

does this apply to the ps4 version?

[@MrWubblesGaming]

Does this till apply?

[@heavypeatandsmoke]

That was very helpful. Thx

[@Rhykker]

Cheers!

[@Omfgseriouslyyyyyyyy]

So say you can farm t6 rifts at 18 mins, but you do normals in less than 1 minute, normals more effecient? this math

[@purpleblades6061]

You're misinterpreting the data. It's more meant towards once you're 70 which Torment level you should farm. If you can beat a T1 rift in 3 minutes, and a T6 in 20 (just for example), you would actually get more legendaries per hour through T1 rifts. Once you get to where T6 takes you 4-6 minutes, it becomes the most efficient.

[@jonathanjawfall7042]

Try to find as many 3 slot Legendarys as possible. Put T19 gems in them. (Varies on class) Make sure you have high resist all and/or health. Run T6 solo. Get 6-10 Legendaries in an hour. Ta-da. Really, people, this game is very simple. I got my Witch Doctor 1-70 in a couple hours, and solo T6 no problem.

[@fw2k]

Now i wonder if the stats are the same even if the drop rate stays the same. >_< lol

[@ram55555_]

What difficulty do you play on?

[@Rhykker]

Torment 1

[@DanionVibit]

ty for this info :)

[@Rhykker]

Cheers!

[@MrKuharak]

One single thing to say: If you want to farm on hard as efficient as on normal (in 10 minutes as you said) you have to complete the same content in 100+75%. That means you cant afford to make a 10 minute dungeon on normal to take 75 minutes in hard. That further means, that the exp reward has to be 750%!!!!! In order to be as efficient on normal like hell.. i mean hard, you have to complete it in 17,5 minutes. I await your answer. Regards, Arni

[@ScientistNoRyu]

I some runs on T6 act 4 clear the hell rift lvl 2,where i got 420k gold and 65 mil per run that's the best place to farm for gold.

[@Rhykker]

How long does a run take? What is your damage and toughness?

[@ScientistNoRyu]

***** Hmm i have 1.6 mil buffed dps and 9 mil toughness the run takes about 3-4 min,in hell rift lvl 1 i tp and even if i die i put the invulnerable shoulders then i change them along side tp to energy armor crit chance.

[@Rhykker]

***** Hm yeah sounds like you are definitely far above average in terms of damage and toughness :)

[@CelerityNova]

The drops for T3+ are almost certainly 1.15^* where * = Torment level. That's marginally less pathetic than your projections, but still in no way an example of balanced risk/reward.

[@Rhykker]

Cheers!

[@nerdvananc]

I guess this is what the people at SpaceX & NASA do

[@sarccacious]

I can only play for 10 minutes before I get bored / disappointed

[@filippiasecki8330]

pro

[@Kharn526]

After all the videos you have made and they are very good mind you,why is it you still seem uncomfortable and awkward in front of the camera, almost robotic in a way ?

[@Rhykker]

+Kharn526 You discovered my secret... I am a robot.

[@Mrposton101]

If I didn't live in the country with shit internet, I wouldn't be playing this shit grind of a game 😂

[@ronniemartillo]

I feel like you’re forcing that tone of voice. Don’t fight puberty just let it happen.

[@TinTinGamez]

lame a whole bunch of generalized info and a whole bunch of made up unknown rate

[@pato.ondent]

amazing job, thxxx ;)