Diablo Immortal Review Bombed, Blizzard's Predatory Pay-To-Win Loot Boxes & MTX Disgusts Players

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[@iamryansanchez]

Hi Yong

[@DiscoSamurai]

I believe even the guy who asked if we had phones even went to Reddit to say "it wasn't gonna be like that" regarding MTX and whatnot. Well, how crumbles the cookie has fallen far... or however that went.

[@panopticpunk]

Pretty sure it's not a review bomb if its true. Very misleading title - if i didnt actively watch your channel/videos and know who you are and what your about - i could EASILY mistake you as shilling for the game/blizzard off of the title alone. Just saying. a review bomb has connotations of "fake users artificially deflating the score", when that's clearly not what's happened here.

[@kmjgamingalt]

No, that’s Konami. There will never be anyone worse than Konami. Not even EA and Activision-Blizzard piss me off or disgust me more.

[@mr.vanillamilkshake3]

In the words of a certain eccentric pirate from a brilliant animated spinoff of an iconic franchise: "This effort... is no longer... PROFITABLE!!" (see my other two comments for my initial reaction, and my cunning plan on how Blizzard should have got - and indeed, still needed - the message, the latter also being applicable to any other company that's gone one over the eight ever)

[@IosonoOtakuman]

Blizzard: Do you guys not have phones? Community: I don't know, do you guys not have a fanbase?

[@ofearghailthefearless6481]

More like do you guys not have brains?

[@Pandemonium-zp2fg]

Got them

[@burningphoenix6679]

“Do you guys not have loans”?

[@csguak]

Do you guys not have money??

[@MichaelPohoreski]

*Blizzard 2018:* _Do you guys not have phones?_ *Internet:* _Do you guys not have PC developers? You know the platform we supported for YEARS such as D1, D2, D3, SC1, SC2, WC1, WC2, WC3, WoW, so the company could even make a shitty P2W mobile game in the first place._ *Blizzard 2022:* _Do you guys not have money?_ *Internet:* _Spent all my money on a phone. Do you guys not know how to respect a gamer’s time and wallet?_

[@CeHee123]

At least nobody was disapointed. Everyone knew this was going to be terrible, and got exactly what they expected.

[@cliffturbo2146]

That's just sad. I hate it when microtransaction is holding these games back.

[@caffine_nightz]

Of course I expected it. NO mobile title is a true game.

[@darkf0rce732]

you are so fucking right this is so bad

[@Weiswolfe]

@@caffine_nightz fuck 100% cant agree more

[@ernestlemmingway1124]

This. I knew Activision would screw it up (like they did _Diablo 3_ with its RLAH and server-side save files). Sickeningly, whales will still support it enough to justify continuing these practices.

[@lightningonlycommentsonce5824]

They went through hell announcing this game just to spend all those years of development proving all the haters right.

[@Grivehn]

If you're in hell no matter what, why not be a powerful demonlord hated by all?

[@civilizedsquid2455]

The sad part is: it has promise gameplay wise. Best ARPG on mobile by far, it’s a shame they had to go and ruin it with horrid monetization practices.

[@Smokie1523]

​@@civilizedsquid2455 seriously man, great game for a mobile game. really surprised me with that... but o..m..g... ive never, in my life, seen something so aggressively monetized. seen the other day, a loot chest with one lvl 4 legendary gem, 99.99$, an 800% value! what the actual fuck?! that means they think that an in game, not physically existent item should sell for almost a thousand dollars? fuckin hell...

[@ebolachan8198]

@@Smokie1523 they wrote 800% profit because if they would right - 80% reduced, it would be false marketing

[@miciso666]

they didnt even make the game. a chinese company did. this is why the game has tracking dlls. like facetracker and geotracker. kinda glad i didnt fucking get the game.

[@TrexelCat]

Acti-Bliz: "There are no loot boxes." Diablo Immortal: ~fails to launch in two regions where loot boxes are regulated.~

[@masterofbloopers]

Blizzard outdid themselves with Diablo Immortal! This game really makes you feel like you're in Hell!

[@dustinnabil798]

Immersion 100.

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

It's in all aspects a game about and from hell.

[@VioletDeathRei]

"We conspired with literal demons on how best to oppress our customers, no expense(to our customers anyway) will be spared!"

[@nel9487]

Literally Hell mode on low level hahaha

[@JESUSCHRIST-ONLYWAYTOHEAVEN]

JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK ANY DAY WITH JUDGEMENT (THESE ARE END DAYS)! HE IS RETURNING TO TAKE HIS BRIDE HOME AND IF YOU AREN'T RIGHT WITH HIM (THAT INCLUDES THE SLEEPING "CHRISTIAN" CHURCHES) YOU WILL BE LEFT BEHIND TO FACE THE WORST TIME IN HISTORY BY FAR (TRIBULATION). WW3, GLOBAL FAMINE, 9-10.0 EARTHQUAKES ALL OVER THE WORLD, 100S OF VOLCANOES GOING OFF AT THE SAME TIME, 100S OF FOOT TSUNAMIS WILL WIPE OUT MAJOR CITIES. ON TOP OF IT THE ANTICHRIST WILL KILL ANYONE WHO WONT SERVE HIM AND TAKE HIS MARK (TAKE IT = NO HEAVEN). BILLIONS WILL DIE... IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME READ REVELATION. GOD HAS GIVEN US CENTURIES TO TURN TO HIM AND HAS BEEN PATIENT BUT WE KEEP GOING AGAINST HIM AND HIS WAYS. THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE AND THE ONLY WAY HE CAN WAKE PEOPLE UP IS TO TAKE AWAY EVERY CORRUPT THING WE PUT OUR HOPE IN. IF YOU PUT YOUR FAITH IN ANYTHING OF THIS WORLD OR MAN YOU WILL PERISH WITH THIS WORLD AND CORRUPT MAN. THERE IS 1 GOD & HE IS EVERLASTING, CREATOR OF ALL. WORSHIP HIM, NOT HIS CREATION! SERVE HIM, NOT YOURSELVES OR THIS WORLD! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, HE WANTS TO HEAL & RESTORE YOU! TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW AND THE SIGNS OF HIS COMING TALKED ABOUT IN THE BIBLE HAVE TAKEN PLACE! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23

[@CriticalNobody]

And the worst part? Immortal will still make all the money in the world and Diablo 4 will have some of the same systems because of it. They already confirmed MTXs awhile ago

[@spherebreak23]

For real? Damn, I was looking forward to D4.

[@commie_remover]

MTX games are often extremely successful in Asia, especially in China and Korea, and South America. This MTX push won't end anytime soon.

[@jorgeluna6577]

is true most people are more than ready to pay, is still free to play though but p2w like all other mobile games so is not so bad but if you want to be a top player on the top guild and win all pvp then you'll have to expense thousands of thousands.

[@NicoNoInteresa]

it's like people forget diablo 3 launched with a real money auction house where devs could create and sell the best items

[@alfasilverblade]

@@commie_remover but why are they soo stupid? You gonna be realy dumb to think a garbage company deserve 10 000$+ of your cash for gems and slightly bigger number equipments. When countless other better RPGs already exist that are much more fun and let you unlock everything by just playing for 20-100 hours.

[@SHIRO_111]

I'm still amazed after all the controversy this game got when it was announced and how bad the reputation of blizzard is now, they still had the balls to go full predatory with the monetization here....... I have to applaud their consistency to stay as one of gaming worst companies

[@joshallen128]

They are going to be acquired by Microsoft anyway so who cares they got nothing to loose

[@IKIGAIofficial]

“PR is already in the shitter. Nothing to lose only $$$ to gain”

[@gustavogoesgomes1863]

I think that they are doing a bethesda... burning everything they can for a quick buck before selling out

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

@@joshallen128 I am hoping Microsoft will fix the game after they own it

[@UmbraWeiss]

They still will make way more than it took to make this game, so they don't care.

[@csward5380]

"I know Diablo is about Hell and everything, but this is getting a little too meta Blizzard" lmao Yong, great quote

[@Alltimefox]

Blizzard employee: “It has loot boxes” Fans: “boooooo” Blizzard employee: “don’t you have thousands of dollars to spare?”

[@mm-yt8sf]

"nooo we don't have thousands of dollars to spare" "well, just pay what you can then....you'll find more eventually. we have faith in you!"

[@ObsidionshadowX]

Feel like this is what Halo's shareholders attitude was like when they forced the game out to meet monetary demands.. despite the game not being ready, or not being what was promised.

[@acemax1124]

Hundreds to thousands of dollars for mobile games 🤷 That's insane paying that kind of money for any game especially substandard games on a phone with limit capabilities 🤦💸

[@ferdinand12390]

i read in total you would spend $110k to get the good stuff, like, my Brother in Christ, i could buy a house with that money, fuck ab

[@mrmagma4646]

That’s good!!! Lol

[@carterheer8278]

"Activision/Blizzard does something greedy and foolish." In other news, water is wet.

[@emma6648]

My water is hard

[@deathslide8]

Water is as wet as fire is burnt.

[@darkf0rce732]

trash game trash phone miccotransaction

[@IKIGAIofficial]

2nd most hated gaming company behind EA the kinder egg company.

[@theshimario253]

its actually not wet, it makes things wet.

[@gozips3054]

A wise person in a red shirt once said: “Is this an out-of-season April Fool’s joke?”

[@Underratedcomedi]

He was a hero that day

[@Ihavethetouch]

Not all heroes wear capes

[@RustyShackleford051]

They hated bald Jesus because he told the truth

[@linusgustafsson2629]

I still think it should be illegal to call anything priced over 2 dollars a "micro transaction". These days you could call going to a restaurant a "micro transaction". You probably also can buy real life clothes for less than digital clothes.

[@kitsunelee007]

Truth!

[@IAMZERG]

Blizzard: "Eh, it's less than the cost of a house.... microtransaction!"

[@liammurphy2725]

First time I heard about micro transactions, some programmer somewhere had set up so that he got half a cent any time a particular bank online service happened. He made some money and went to jail. I doubt that Blizz execs gaf.

[@KroryykDB]

The thing is most clothing IS actually cheaper than cosmetics in video games lol it really puts into perspective how ridiculous micro transactions are these days.

[@dragonspadeex]

I like how Blizzard basically upgraded from "Do you guys not have phones?" to "Do you guys not have money?"

[@toblerone1729]

And people's like, "I dunno, don't you guys have a fanbase?"

[@okankyoto]

If you go to the Diablo Immortal subreddit, you can read dozens of posts about how people who don't like the MTX are just "salty because they don't have $20 to spend". Seriously next-level bootlicking.

[@dragonspadeex]

@@okankyoto to that guy I can safely say I can spend twenty bucks on way better things, much less a shitty cash grab of a mobile game.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

*Blizzard 2018:* _Do you guys not have phones?_ *Internet:* _Do you guys not have PC developers? You know the platform we supported for YEARS such as D1, D2, D3, SC1, SC2, WC1, WC2, WC3, WoW, so the company could even make a shitty P2W mobile game in the first place._ *Blizzard 2022:* _Do you guys not have money?_ *Internet:* _Spent all my money on a phone. Do you guys not know how to respect a gamer’s time and wallet?_

[@SloppySyntax]

@@okankyoto "Mad because you can't spend 100k on upgrades" lmao

[@demonofrazgriz5764]

"By gamers - for gamers" More like... "By corporations - for shareholders" What a joke.

[@iaindickinson3120]

Its actually... "Bye, gamers." Full stop, since no one but their coveted whales are sticking around for this trash.

[@HtS643KyS6555GxQ3edA]

Gotta beat expectations next Qtr

[@staciefreshener4032]

Republic of Business , Experience Ethical Fun !

[@buckrodgers1162]

Blizzard: "Do you guys not have money?" Everyone: "Not for you."

[@pokiblue5870]

you need 6 figures $ to max out some stuff someone already did the math lol

[@tomaspat4392]

Sad thing. Ppl still buy. And Blizzard got what they wanted

[@thedant0r]

Everyone = The old subscription-paying fanbase who is the minority now.

[@buckrodgers1162]

@@pokiblue5870, Yeah, and if I had a 6 figure 'disposable income' I wouldn't be "living" under a 'tyrannical dictatorship' is a so called "free country". If I even go so far as to hold my own car title in my own name, I get ejected from my apartment.

[@10forthebigguy61]

Also economic freefall.

[@ExeterFFFF]

They even went the extra mile and made the rifts themselves the "loot boxes". So instead of paying for instant gratification, you pay for opening a rift for the chance to get loot. The fact that you're paying for what should amount to a core mechanic in the game is staggering, how much do you want to bet they'll start charging to get into raids eventually?

[@draxik3763]

Highly likely members of the immortals will start selling spots in their clans as well so players can be a part of the immortals for a week or two.,

[@m0-m0597]

Stuff like this is hopefully going to strengthen the indie game industry

[@jacobriley2358]

Blizzard: “Do you guys not have money”

[@pootissandvichhere9135]

Players: yes but we don’t want to give all of it to you!

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Who would mindlessly spend money not even the rich do it

[@whatevr99]

Disillusioned former Blizzard fans: “Do you guys not have… us?”

[@7sidedfilms438]

Well we know they have cell phones at least.

[@Gaming_Sparky58]

IKR Who doesn't have a spare 100 Grand to use on Games to max your character these days smh.

[@lilbladeknight]

Blizzard then: "Do you guys not have phones?" Blizzard now: "Do you guys not have creditcards/ money?"

[@awworrell]

I'm just waiting now for Blizzard to release a statement telling players to apologize for being so poor that they can't play the fantastic game that was made.

[@lilbladeknight]

@@awworrell Lmao 🤣

[@demonpride1975]

that's exactly what blizzard was actually going to say, but activision told them, shhhhh talk about the phone aspect.

[@Wayfaring_Stranger]

bah cmon.. thats the joke i wanted to make aswell >.>

[@ricardohoang8452]

@@awworrell LMAO

[@Red_Karen]

The best part is that blizzard knows that this is predatory due to not releasing in Belgium and the Netherlands

[@XenBass]

Oh, they know. Why waste money on lawsuits when they can stuff it in their already bursting CEO bank accounts.

[@bificommander7472]

Do you guys not have lax lootbox laws?

[@Rikimaru7661]

It's a supprise only those two countries have these laws and no other European country follows. It's a strange feeling I can't play the game but seeing how infested it has become with mtx, I don't think I'm missing out.

[@callmetravesty8762]

Not releasing it in Belgium and Netherlands? They don't have a choice! Belgium and Netherlands have laws and restrictions in place.

[@callmetravesty8762]

@@Rikimaru7661 I wish the UK followed your countries example friend. If everyone cracked down the practice would die.

[@alexnetherton3245]

"How does it feel to live long enough to watch all your favorite franchises go down in flames?" -Rich Evans 🤣

[@jareds6717]

Facts

[@rahulghosh5366]

As a long time Diablo fan, I am beyond heartbroken to what happened to one of my beloved gaming franchise and after this abysmal launch, my hopes for D4 is even less now. Unless microsoft implements major changes on how the company views their customers, I am afraid this is only gonna get worse.

[@PookaBot]

After the auction house I knew it was all downhill

[@samarai82]

After seeing this, and knowing D4 will be always online. Yeah, I'm out. I will be on D3, thank you very much.

[@chubs54]

Sadly it's how he's are :( money transactions

[@De1usionsofGrandeur]

I am hoping Microsoft fixes things once they take over

[@RioluJH]

The Diablo Franchise is just being saved by Vicarious Visions.

[@blumoon131]

Blizzard proving all of their detractors right once again through their own arrogance and stupidity. Never, ever, *ever* let up on them.

[@ricardohoang8452]

They did it for Bobby's new yacht lol

[@thedant0r]

Stupidity? They will probably get more money out of this, than with old fashioned WoW-Subcriptions. You, the old subsctiption payers, are not the main focus here. To now young, naiv, unexperianced tennagers and yound adults, how are used to pay here and there, are.

[@Chris_Sizemore]

Not arrogance or stupidity. Activision has been the one calling shots for nearly 14 years now. Blizzard is simply producing what Activision wants. And what Activision wants is to squeeze its customers for as much money for as little effort on their part as possible. It took 10 years for Blizzard to fully sink to Activision's level. Now Blizzard's only redeeming quality is its talent, management is completely predatory. Microsoft might change the management of Activision-Blizzard, but they have almost no incentive to do so. If you are looking for a bright side to that relationship, Xbox won't want preditory microtransactions in its Gamepass selection, so anything greenlit for Gamepass won't be like Diablo Immortal.

[@blumoon131]

@@Chris_Sizemore when it comes to Activision/Blizzard, I don't see any bright sides anymore. Even if Activision isn't/wasn't calling all the shots, with everything that's been uncovered about how they do things within their own studio tells me that their recent fuck-ups are somehow still their responsibility. I stand by my words calling them "arrogant" and "stupid" because I have no doubts that they're too far gone down the path of greed to do what is right anymore.

[@blumoon131]

@@thedant0r Makes me really glad then that I was never a subscriber. Can't even imagine how torched I'd be now... But still, they are stupid for doing this. Financially they'll make a killing, but as far as what's left of their reputation and good-will goes, they're taking all that out behind the barn.

[@PsychoticBeverage]

Between "Immortal" being one extra letter away from "Immoral", and billboards talking about people selling their souls, either Blizzard is utterly lacking self-awareness, or overflowing with it. Given the infamous "Do you not have phones!?" quip, I'm gonna lean toward the former.

[@henkweeds1498]

Do you dont have morrals

[@CrystalWings12]

'dOn't yOu gUyS hAvE pHoNe??' Yes, we DO have the phone, so we could throw it right on your numbskulls.

[@jesuslover2468]

Please teach me English 😢

[@leadbones]

Are you Glen Beck? You think adding and removing letters in words reveals hidden intent, or dislodges some kind of secret meaning from FUCKING anything? WTF are you serious?

[@THEeltfreak]

@@jesuslover2468 "Immoral" = bad

[@zevilar5817]

I've spent money on Genshin Impact, and I can confidently say that (from somebody who has not played Immortal much at all, only half an hour tops) the system that Diablo Immortal has put seems to make Genshin Impact's Wishes system look tame.

[@niubisaurio]

totally, even though the progression might be slower for a f2p on genshin, you can still clear the harder content with the free characters and still get to "wish" and obtain event 5 star characters without affecting that much of your progression in the game, the difference here is that genshin is about liking the playstyle of the characters and not directly the damage that you output in order to "play the game", it's true that genshin has a shitty system called "resin" but there's no competitive advantages because there's no pvp so you basically spend money to play with the characters that you like, not to "win the game" (still I consider genshin to be somehow predatory but DI is next level)

[@tchen8124]

I played GI a year ago. Finished the story and nothing else. No PVP, can’t compete with Immortal.

[@Mr.Thicket]

I can imagine the devs sighing in disappointment when they’re told to stuff micro transactions into their game

[@terodomRen]

I know right, no dev wants their game to suck ass but they have to pay the bills somehow

[@christofferredfielfd1758]

Rebeca Sabova you don't go in people's pockets to pay your bills

[@itsarin2166]

Idk man, the devs are teams from Netease and knowing their games, its filled a lot with MTX.

[@newbie2240]

First time?

[@Sagedurk]

@@christofferredfielfd1758 Tell that to the higher ups, not the devs.

[@SingletonD]

I am pretty sure that whenever someone in Blizzard mentions their great "community" they really mean to say "our stupid fat cash cow."

[@GordonSeal]

To be fair, it has worked for these companies for a long time. There is a reason why they are still making millions every year with microtransactions.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@GordonSeal yeah by focusing on causing addiction.

[@sorcierenoire8651]

@@wilmagregg3131 and it works

[@Palaecro]

The thing is, the JOY of playing Diablo was finding those amazing drops. Having ANY PTW attached to the game model literally kills the driving factor to grind and what are you left with? At least for me it breaks any desire to touch it. They literally made Diablo entirely pointless to play. All for the $$$.

[@garpten7772]

More people just need to say na to games like Diablo immortal and lost ark

[@giahyhoangtrong3515]

this is true for basically any looter arpg tbh,the endgame grind is what define the genre

[@MediKitt]

@@garpten7772 lost ark in general is just mid

[@zerghunter7486]

You can play and have fun without spending money… stop letting influencers choose your opinions.

[@nesamdoom]

@@zerghunter7486 I've been having fun for days and have no plan to give them money. I don't think it's hard to get stuff in the game and playing it to get stuff is my whole reason for downloading.

[@libramoon1582]

After the abusive workplace scandal, it's no surprise Activision-Blizzard is digging themselves an even deeper grave with implementing pay-to-win mechanics in Diablo Immortal and further triggering their fanbase with this monetization bs🤨

[@goldengoose6769]

yet plenty of people are playing it

[@DiscusvissenRocken]

@@goldengoose6769 there will always be idiots and Kotick and his club of greasy scumbag executives are fully aware of this. they are going all out on the whale hunting and are giving the finger to the fanbase

[@Kenneth-jt7ul]

Gamers: " Blizzard don't you guys have dignity? " Blizzard: " Idiots still paying for it."

[@frankieseward8667]

Until they're broke.

[@Horvath_Gabor]

@@frankieseward8667 Not likely. Contrary to popular belief, whales who spend thousands of dollars on mictrotransactions aren't gambling-addicted losers sinking into debt to pay, but wealthy people for whom a couple hundred bucks here and there are just a drop in the bucket. I know a bunch of such people from the FGO forums, and I'm pretty sure the same applies to this game's playerbase as well. So long as the game provides at least decent gameplay, people like them would pump money into it and keep it afloat, at least for a little while. That said though, I'm less convinced that a game this heavy-handed with its monetization will be able to retain its F2P and dolphin players, and once those guys leave, the whales won't have anyone to play with, and they leave too. That's generally how these kinds of games tend to die.

[@Netrole]

@@Horvath_Gabor Nope most whales are certainly not wealthy people. They are most likely gambling addicts, or people who a psychologically very seceptible to all this manipulation tactics. These games don't encourage thoughtfull spending, instead they focus on impulse spending and emotional descisions paired with psychological manipulation. People most definetly go broke over games like this. It is people who spend money irresponsibly that are being targeted by this

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@Horvath_Gabor Contrary to popular belief? There's actual articles about the stories of whales who've almost ruined their financial lively hoods because of compulsive spending habits that they couldn't get a hold of until they finally realized just how bad it was.

[@ovted129]

@@Horvath_Gabor its a question of selling a few over priced things versus a lot of reasonably price. the thing is word of mouth from a few or getting new players targeting a small few is much harder than catering to a large majority and using their word of mouth.

[@aurex8937]

Considering the "professional" reviewers' average scores, it's also time to call out them as, basically, paid collaborators.

[@thegamerfe8751]

Actually, all MTX were disabled for reviewers so what they experienced is pretty much what Diablo Immortal should have been, a mobile Diablo game that's a one to one (in a good way) pseudo port of Diablo 3.

[@Ms666slayer]

Upper Echelon Gamers have a really good video about them not being paid, but also how the companies curate their experiences in order to get a good score and also how their influence makes the reviewrsd not being that mean, because if you destroy a game then the coimpany maybe doesn't send you their next game early so you can't release a day 1 review so you don't get click so they don't make money.

[@aurex8937]

@@thegamerfe8751 Even then, they should just write another review when the game comes out for the rest of us. Not doing so is ridiculous.

[@SaraphDarklaw]

@@aurex8937 No one reads re-reviews or retractions. And be honest, would you play a game, give an opinion, then replay the game after an update just to give a new opinion?

[@Uldihaa]

@@aurex8937 Then the review would be significantly less useful to most people. It would take days post-launch, possible a week or more, before they had a review ready. They still have to play the game and finish it at the very least. What they should do is be upfront about disabled functions in the very first paragraph of their review and to not score it until after those features are active and they can get a feel for how it affects the game. Considering how publishers are deliberately withholding certain detrimental features, like the pricing of cars in Gran Turismo 7, they might start stating that they'll reserve the right to change their review based on post-launch patches.

[@Murtaugh395]

The only 'Groundbreaking' thing about Diablo Immortal was Blizzard digging it's own grave.

[@isnith]

Apart from microtransactions, the forced multiplayer is absolutely awful! It's the first Diablo game where you can't play on your own, but you have to wait for the screen to load as more player runs around you. It's horrible.

[@SyborgNinja]

They almost certainly did that to further support the monetization scheme because then ur exposed to the ppl/whales that have all the coolest most powerful gear to make players stop & feel fomo and manipulate you. It's all built in from beginning to end based on research. They know exactly what they are doing.

[@user-fr1ys2wn4t]

It’s to force players to look at other players’ cosmetics and make them feel inferior. Thus making them spend money

[@Stalkingwolf]

its by design so that you need to buy stuff because you get declined or kicked if not.

[@GoodMorningBeautiful4]

It passed being disappointed with Blizzard a long time ago. This company is just a less massive EA who treats their employees worse.

[@MechaPlays]

Alarmingly accurate. Actibliz, EA and Ubisoft are 3 of the shittiest companies in the games industry. And people who don't pay attention or simply don't care about anything but themselves allow this shit to keep the cycle going by purchasing their dogshit :/ I get they might be IP's you grew up with and loved, but you have to take of those rose tinted shades at some point and see what they've done to the industry. Sickening.

[@jasonbaren3595]

reinstall d3 a few of my friends did lol

[@sorcierenoire8651]

@@jasonbaren3595 ok

[@marcusmeins1839]

At least EA gave us cnc red alert 1 remastered. Blizzard cant do shiet.

[@namepending9241]

And it's going to bring in a boatload of money, the people actually paying for this are the real problem

[@AFChase]

Asmonfold

[@ViIgax]

The mainstream casuals from China are the worst.

[@Straggler8]

@@AFChase You realize, that he spends the money to show people how predatory it is? He has average of 100k users - if he stops at least 1 person in this 100k to spend the amount he did - it's already a win

[@yogurtretzel8865]

@@Straggler8 Yeah or he'll inspire 10 people to start playing it and that 1 person he stopped won't matter. See how many of his followers started playing FFXIV as soon as he did.

[@guguy00]

... and more importantly, have a problem and seriously need help. As a compulsive spender myself if I didn't spend many years watching the opinions of your Jim Sterlings, Yongs and Totalbiscuits I would seriously be spending money on MTXs instead of full games. Seriously it's psychological manipulation here.

[@johnnygraz4712]

There's a word for creating a problem and then charging people to solve it: racketeering.

[@dakat5131]

"You can unlock everything by playing, only impatient people pay" is pretty much a myth. You will not have a good time trying to do that, and it might be unreasonable (or in some cases, literally impossible) to expect even dedicated players to play that much.

[@angelsfate9841]

Do you have 10 years to max level your character

[@killeralx2007]

@AlEx3KillA You cannot get end-game in 1 month F2P without spending over 20k $ at least minimum for 1 gem to get from 2/5 stars to 5/5 stars and upgrade it with other SPECIFIC gems for RESONANCE gem increase !!since legendary gems WILL not drop unless you use Legendary crest and you get only 2 Legendary crest in 1 MONTH hilts rewards .... 1 from PVE 1 from PVP rank ... PROVE ME WRONG!! and yes i play this game F2P i am lvl 60 wiz paragon 13 + almost 14 and i only have 1star and the classic 2 star GEM all rank 2 max rank 3 upgraded because you need over x25+ legendary gems 1star at least to upgrade it to RANK 5 to even unlock magic find 5%!! which will still not garantee you even get a legendary gem after 100x elder rifts farm daily WHICH I DO with warband party for 5% magic find party bonus !! and in 4 days of grind over 100x daily elder rift NOT 1 SINGLE LEGENDARY GEM drops unless you use LEGENDARY CREST !! DIABLO is a Grind LOOT game they abuse that by DENYING the LOOT GRIND only with premium currency BUY!! WTF you get in 1 month...???

[@angelsfate9841]

@AlEx3KillA a month if you play it 24/7 ...

[@Coercer2010]

Don't you have 40 years to play ? 😂😂😂

[@angelsfate9841]

@@Coercer2010 no do you

[@DSSeraph]

Honestly, I wouldn't even call this pay to win, because it's design is so egregious, so shitty, so predatory, that even if you DO pay, you STILL lose. This game is pay to lose, play free to lose worse.

[@webbowser8834]

"Pay to Lose" I love it, definitely stealing this.

[@Geekezf]

Don't mind me if i still this new term.

[@88specv]

@@Geekezf LOL.. it's over!

[@MechaPlays]

And honestly, as someone in his 30s who grew up in what is considered the greatest era of gaming, i find this disheartening, almost upsetting to see how much the industry has nose dived its integrity and decency into the ground, and then through the planet. They suck, and very few devs make games for the sake of creating something creative and fun, its all about how much money can we milk. I wish gaming never became mainstream :/

[@Geekezf]

@@MechaPlays We can thanks Fifa, and GTA for that..The last one is a bless and a curse.

[@marybdrake1472]

The thing about these "optional" claims, they are never really optional. It's always a scam.

[@Treerootz1]

What, you don’t want to progress 800% less?!

[@marybdrake1472]

@@Treerootz1 Not really, no.

[@frigginresulrum]

Blizzard during Diablo 3: "It became increasingly clear that despite the benefits of the [auction house] system and the fact that many players around the world use it, it ultimately undermines Diablo's core game play: kill monsters to get cool loot." Blizzard now: "Yeah, but money though."

[@Half-Vampire]

Old Blizzard dead and gone few years after Overwatch first released. RIP my favorite game Dev of all time. 😔

[@joethesheep4675]

THANKS to all participants! Its time we stop this BS. Also: dont stop the preassure when they remove lootboxes. Thats what companies always do. Try to push the shadyness to the breaking point and than rewind just enough so costumers accept the excuse. NO! Fuck this game for all eternity.

[@CaptToilet]

You forget who you are talking to. Gamers are stupid and will instantly forget the moment everything is "done right"

[@excaligaming2435]

I don't know if you've seen the viewer numbers on twitch, but diablo immortal is exploding with people showing how much money they spent, encouraging even more people and making free advertisement. They all claim they wanna "expose", but all they do is increase the range and popularity of the game. fucking trash communities like twitch are the driving factor behind videogames becoming this level of predatory and trash. fuck this platform and all the people on it.

[@Thetracker69]

Stop calling this "review bombing". That exists for when a game gets negative reviews for no reason. What is happening with this wallet draining machine masquerading as a game is 100%, justified criticism. Every time a legitimate reason to leave a negative review gets called "review bombing", corporations get another piece of ammo to say "negative reviews should be removed or not counted, cause review bombing". Diablo Immortal is getting exactly the reviews it deserves, which is not at all what review bombing is.

[@nulian]

Dunno it's precisely what every mobile game is just don't get why people wanted a pc port.

[@Aereto]

@@nulian They are the same league of people who play Madden and NBA.

[@RestlessTome]

I also hate how Blizzard make their games nowadays, but your argument is totally off-base. It IS review bombing. Anyone who reviews a game (or movie, tv show, etc.) and gives it a 0 is doing so to bring the average score down as much as they can in a way to truncate what would actually be the average opinion about the game. There is literally no media product out there that deserves a 0. It would mean the game/movie/tv show would have zero merit on ANYTHING. There is always good work put into every piece of media out there, whether it's the music, the art style, the writing, etc. A FAIR review would be to give the pros and cons of a product honestly, not go ''waaaah it sucks/I don't like it, thus 0'' like a frustrated little kid. The opposite is true when someone gives a 10 and goes ''best game eva''. But yea, this is review bombing pure and simple, and I will never be for it as it is just dishonesty and does not represent a fair opinion on a piece of media. However, I agree that Blizzard should be criticized for what they do now, but this should be done simply through not purchasing their games/products. They will care a lot more if you don't give them money than if you truncate review scores online. If anything, like you said, this just gives them munitions to argue that those who review bomb are idiotic, never-to-be-satisfied children. Be better than them.

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

They get what they effing deserve. It has nothing to do with review bombing. This are just opinions from normal people. You need to be able to call trash trash, without being attacked by people.

[@arsmariastarlight3567]

It's not about review bombing, it's about sending the message

[@JeveGreen]

And the award for most predictable shitshow in gaming history, goes to:

[@RareNine]

“WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED?!” Literally the moment they announced this as mobile game is the moment I knew they were up to this greedy shit

[@MrRichmanCash]

Imagine what damage the words "mobile game" could cause. Microtransactions and shitty fetish ads is its signature.

[@DrownedInExile]

"The last remnants of the Old Blizzard have finally been swept away." - Grand Moff Kotick

[@DiscusvissenRocken]

don't you mean grand Moff Cheng? Kotick is the freaking Sith Emperor Bobby Palpatine

[@85futureshock]

As much as I would love to see this industry go through a 1983 style crash, I don’t want to see good companies like From Software get impacted. But something has to change. It just can’t continue like this.

[@Xfushion2]

Blame it on the mindless idiots than decide to buy/consume games like this.

[@mysticking16]

Very true but I feel like the industry as it stands is too big to fail.

[@Secret_Takodachi]

@@mysticking16 that's how crashes happen, nothing is "too big to fail" the only way that doesn't happen is when people use public resources to prop up a giant that should by all rights be allowed to fail on its own merits.

[@BM-wf9uf]

Unfortunately that won't happen without widespread government intervention from multiple countries. It's clear that gamer community outrage is not enough to stop this predatory monetization, we need governments around the world to step in and ban these games outright.

[@adamir-magnumCZ]

Oh something is kinda happening Look at the Triumvirate of Gaming Villiany: Activision got sold, EA is looking to sell and Ubisoft has massive worth drop It took a while but they are already experiencing the consequences

[@JCascade6065]

This isn't even a breach of trust anymore, we'd have to trust them first. I genuinely can't even see myself paying attention to future titles. Blizzard is penning the book on how to lose customers.

[@Kracov_the_Madman]

to be fair, lots of game companies make good console/pc games, and also make android versions which are terrible gacha games.

[@mathatter9158]

I would have said a few years ago that there’s no way I wouldn’t play Diablo 4 to death. Now I’m not as certain and nowhere near 100% on it. Sad really.

[@Habib_Osman]

Bro don't lie. You are going to eat whatever they serve.

[@Habib_Osman]

And Blizzard knows that obviously. Because they're the market leader! They produce the best stuff, so they can be immoral. You will eat what they serve!

[@ricthiamevans8980]

I hope Microsoft knows what they're doing. Activision is absolutely shit.

[@gazb2740]

They'll probably double down on it.

[@BlaBlaBla-76]

MS made you pay to play online on xbox. They really are not much better in that regard.

[@ionseven]

MS loves predatory monetization too! Lmao! Look what happened to their wannabe Halo trash. AAA are all gd scammers ripping the uninformed off.

[@hiddenxalpha7053]

@@BlaBlaBla-76 MS also stopped you getting your credit card information stolen on a regular basis.

[@FredSpade]

Microsoft have shifted towards operating system as service. They control your PC, not you. Don't expect much better from anything else they do.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

This is the best made, most concise reaction/summary I've watched of this so far. There are some inaccuracies that I chose to point or not to point out but great overall. Thanks and well done!

[@Fruitcupper]

The biggest insult I can offer this dumpster fire of a game is; living my life like Diablo Immortal never existed 😁

[@jamesduncan6729]

Yep. Same here. Won't ever bother with this "game"

[@fs5866]

if you ignore all the paying crap and do not engage in pvp, it is actually a pretty good game, story is solid enough for a diablo game, atmosphere is nice, loot and progression is alright

[@mahimmahim6514]

@@fs5866 r u a whale?

[@fs5866]

@@mahimmahim6514 only spent 4.5 dollars for the battlepass and i am already leveling into paragon, the game is fun and you really do not need to spend anything.I do not intend to spend anything much in this game.

[@StrangerForever85]

It’s a damn shame they cancelled Immortal, huh?

[@tolgayatamturk2304]

The sad part is, this is going to generate more money than all of Blizzards games combined.

[@Davivd2]

Yep Blizzard fans are addicted to Copium.

[@AConquerorsVendetta]

Who the hell is going to play it?

[@Persona6Blue]

@@AConquerorsVendetta Die hard fans, people with money to spend, China and India as well probably

[@ghostpinguin]

@@AConquerorsVendetta China ? I mean you do realize that their entire games are pay 2 win and their mentality is like that permanently. If a chinese player will play a non pay 2 win game he might have an existential crisis.

[@spayced]

If you look at their financials, you see the mobile arm is their most consistently profitable. All they need are 1% of players to turn whale and spend thousands. That's the thing that makes manipulative gambling mechanics evil: they work.

[@bloodybill01]

Diablo Immortal is exactly what everyone was afraid it would be. Thanks for living up to everyone's expectations, Blizzard.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

Imagine the bar being SO low that all GGG has to do with PoE mobile is *not* have P2W MTX. =P

[@ninetailedfox579121]

@@MichaelPohoreski Eh I dunno about that, the arpg genre has been getting a bit of a resurgence the past few years with Grim Dawn and Last Epoch. GGG might actually have to try.

[@Aereto]

If I have to lead a game developer group, I'll keep in mind to put any employee with EA or Activision/Blizzard work history into the Blacklist for any management positions.

[@LarixusSnydes]

Let's hope it will prove to be all-too-mortal and fail as hard as Anthem or Eden Failing (no, that is not a typo).

[@MichaelPohoreski]

@@ninetailedfox579121 Yes, more competition is good. *Diablo 3* _Drinking_ man's game *Path of Exile* _Linking_ man's game *Grim Dawn* _Thinking_ man's game Diablo "Immoral" = Diablo 3.5, now with Cain, monetized to hell

[@mangofrugtmos]

At the start of this video I had to make sure that it was a new video, and not an old video about Diablo 2! It sounded sooo familiar!

[@DamyanLP]

You can tell he's f_cking done with big game developer studios screwing up 🤣 And so are we. Thanks for keeping us up-to-date about this dumpster fire that is the gaming industry right now 👍🏻

[@nulian]

Dunno going to bet diablo immortal is going to be their biggest money maker ever like every mobile game is.

[@CMONCMON007]

I play old games from 20+ years ago more often now on my RTX gaming laptop....how ironic

[@glenmcl]

"Forced to pay" isn't a thing. Idiots or rich people pay. Smart people find something else to play.

[@BrutalCelt]

@@CMONCMON007 Morrowind with openmw and some upscaled textures and gameplay systems still slaps harder than skyrim ever has😂

[@AdmiralBison]

It's not game developer studios, it's the f****ing corporate exec heads and shareholders that push for this kind of s**t that ruins gaming.

[@Flaywind]

This sets the bar I have for Diablo 4. If Blizzard does this with one game, I will expect them to do this with every game going forward.

[@dr.wolinsbelt]

They already have a cash grab background with Diablo. Real money auction house anyone. Before loot 2.0 and the scrapping of the ah, drops where just crap most the time in D3 itemization sucked!

[@clover4522]

The only thing I remember about this game was blizzard going to blizzcon just to tell PC players they need to play on mobile to play immortal, and firing back with the most tone deaf idiotic thing ever "do you guys not have phones?" If blizzard themselves doesn't care about their product even when porting to PC where they only care about profit and nothing else, I don't care if they crash and burn

[@stevenfischer9525]

Hopefully this opens the door for success to the next developer that wants to release an honest game.

[@dmitrysysoev3409]

It's impossible to legally connect loot boxes to gambling because you can't cash out. It will be more beneficial to push legislation against predatory "Dark Patterns" rather than focusing on loot boxes. Here's an article from 2021 that analyzed and proposed regulation for the game industry. University of Colorado Law Review > Printed > Volume 92 > Issue 1 > When the Cat’s Away: Techlash, Loot Boxes, and Regulating “Dark Patterns” in the Video Game Industry’s Monetization Strategies

[@AngryShooter]

Let me guess. Now they're going to pretend that they've listened to people's concerns, they're going to "make it better" on the surface but under closer inspection they'll make it even worse.

[@AngryShooter]

@Bloody Lyrics I would prefer them to just be honest and openly market their game to the rich, just ditch the free to play model and charge like $120 upfront, or make it a really expensive subscription. But they won't do that because they also want to exploit gambling addicts, and kids who got the hold of their parents credit cards. The so called whales who throw money at these games are often people who can't afford to spend as much as they do, do these companies care? They absolutely don't, they're happy to see people ruin their lives if it means them making an extra dollar.

[@jimmythecrow]

@Bloody Lyrics this is already happening man.

[@jimmythecrow]

@@AngryShooter no. Charge 60, then make expansions that expand the game to sell. No game except mmos need a sub fee.

[@AngryShooter]

@@jimmythecrow Except games are already getting away with charging $60 upfront and then making tons of money through microtransations and lootboxes, Overwatch started that trend and people ate it up. Subscriptions on full price games will follow. Elder Scrolls Online already asks you for $20 on top of a monthly subscription, same with WOW that asks you for $15 upfront. This has already been happening, them making it $60 wouldn't make a difference. I say make these mobile, exploitative games as expensive as possible and explicitly target them to rich people. But they won't do it, so it doesn't really matter. We're all just talking to the wind.

[@wazittuya4092]

It's tencent games, there's no way those scum would care to feedback or review lol

[@HotRefuse]

Imagine loving a game so much you'll spend $100,000 to be done playing it.

[@pcppbadminton]

*per character

[@abigailcollins8443]

I payed $1k on a game once. Once I realised I refused to ever WILLINGLY buy a lootbox again (the one time was when Overkill special purchase was lootboxes but didn't know for months)

[@kinggeedorah8953]

@@abigailcollins8443 a fool and his gold part easily

[@keremkosif1348]

I think there are people with serious addiciton problem whome needs professional help.

[@josecorchete3732]

Not done. There's PvP, which is why the P2W is troublesome, and why it alienates the normal player.

[@Uldihaa]

Just want to point out that the way they are trying to disguise the lootboxes as the the Crest+Rift mechanic shows that they know full well that people don't like lootboxes. Thanks for making it clear, Yong. I saw another review that kind of danced around the subject and left me wondering if there was lootboxes or not.

[@slipitontravascus]

I haven't watched one of your vids in a while, although I'm subscribed, they just don't pop up on my main page. I was glad this one did. You are concise, honest and on point. Fantastic journalism. Thanks.

[@Brand-yk6dw]

Blizzards reasoning comparing other games: You guys don't have lootboxes?

[@DottorHealer]

Yea, I'm usually very careful with the 'P2W' definition as people used to apply it to everything had any microtransaction.. but this IS Pay-to-Win even if it's PvE, which is quite impressive. The whole thing of improving a dungeon loot table based on how much currency you spend on is awful and baleful

[@MaxIgnoramus]

Baalful, perhaps ...

[@tyrusdalet]

The scarier part is that it affects PvP too, legendary gems apply in the game’s PvP mode, and you can ONLY get 5 star legendary gems from Legendary Crests…

[@rebelmouth9349]

You seem like the kind of guy to 100% argue bag space is "pay for convenience, not pay to win!". Play any PoE?

[@pokiblue5870]

all this money spent for what ? Theres no competition or anything 🤔 its like me playing an old game and insert cheats to unlock everything but then whats the point playing the game if you have everything 🤯

[@DottorHealer]

@@tyrusdalet that.. makes everything even worse

[@drgxiii]

I saw a comment from a immortal player saying that it wasn't pay to win at all and that they could get everything just from playing. He was asked how far along he was in the game and he wasn't even half way through. He then refused to take the advice that by endgame it would be horrifically predatory. And as Genshin player I could only shake my head and laugh. That's how they get you.

[@rojacol4306]

"Every 50th legendary crest will award one 5 star crest"...and I heard that it's only possible to farm for three legendary crests a month. Meaning that it will likely take players over a YEAR AND A HALF to get one 5 star crest unless they are incredibly lucky.

[@MrDrekki]

actually no ... it's 1 legendary crest a month ... and the 50 pity system is not a 5 star guaranteed, it's only a 5 possible star, you'll get 2 out of 5, 3 out of 5 and 4 out of 5... so it's much worse... with the currents odds... it's 200 years to get a 5 star gem.

[@vincentho3792]

@@MrDrekki Ha! 200 years? So you probably have to be immortal to play this game

[@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916]

Based on the "after 50 get a free dice roll" and the price of 60 gems(?) Is $0.99 So essentially everg $150 you spend, is a free spin at the slots machine!!

[@F4Wildcat]

Shoutout to my fellow Belgians & Northren Dutch neighbours for ruining lootboxes for Activision/blizzard

[@Dayfitnl]

As a Dutchmen at first i was like, no way they can block games for me wtf (Lost Ark) , but now i realize its actually not bad at all, my government actually protects me from these bullcrap low quality predatory ''games'', it might not be that bad after all.

[@deaconx]

Absolutely other nations need to take notice and follow

[@FicoXL]

I wish all Europe would join them.

[@JetsareBack12]

I dno how much it was ruined sadly, still making bank off everyone else. But kudos for saying no to it, wish that would spread

[@swaggadash9017]

​@@Dayfitnl How's your migration policy? 😂

[@dublindutch6346]

That opening sentenced delivered and promises a good episode, as usual :) As an E.U citizen (Dutch) i think it high time this trash is regulated E.U wide to kingdome come. It is absolutely insane this has been tolerated for as long as it has, it is like a casino luring little kids inside with lollypops, then exploit them into a lifelong shitfest of gambling addictions, massive debts and maybe even onto a path of crime to fund this fun little "free to play" past time. Heck, heroin addiction is relatively cheap hobby compared to this abomination. I must say though, impressive how these "gaming" companies have the Dutch government spring into action. You can do whatever your heart desire in the Netherlands, open a shroom cave / brothel hybrid? go ahead, wanna sell XTC in coffeeshops, hell yeah! wanna marry 2 guys, as a guy?, totally, go for it, why not 3 instead, the more the merrier we Dutch say. But this vile shit is a little to far even for our free thinking society.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

Regulation in the EU won't stop ABK from forcing it on people in the Americas or Asia.

[@dublindutch6346]

@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 not so sure about that, Canada and Australia tend to follow E.U regulation pretty quick in a lot of cases, as is the U.S for that matter, such as GDPR guidelines and such. Asia, yeah, they do their own thing, but then again, gambling is almost something of a cultural thing in many asian countries. Regardless, as i said, i'm an E.U citizen, so i only care what happens in my part of the woods.

[@Zeverinsen]

@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Have to start somewhere. The US is a morally corrupt country, so the only way to get them to effectively push regulation, is to make sure it happens in other countries so that the pressure gets too high.

[@raphk9599]

But heroine actually makes you feel good.

[@user-we1fk4ul5o]

Heroin addiction isn’t cheap longterm. That’s how it hooks you. $10 is nothing when it takes very little to get you high. Eventually your tolerance develops & the $10 worth that used to get you high is just keeping you from getting sick. Now you’ll need more money for more heroin to actually get high instead of stabilized. You could end up spending $100 a day on dope, depends on what your dealer charges & what area you’re in. Gamblers need money to pay off their debts & keep gambling; heroin users need money to stave off withdrawal, which is one of the worst physical sicknesses you could experience. It’s enough to scare thousands upon thousands of people every day into continuing to use, even when they want to stop. Neither of these addictions has an upside or a benefit. They both ruin lives.

[@battlericky17]

Very good video and break down of the subject. Also nice Angry Beavers mini lol

[@sher8884]

I appreciate all your cover for these disgusting projects, i can't even call them games. You've saved me so much money already Yong! I've seen so much through the years that having all the gears and items in Elden Ring without having to pay any extra penny feels strange..

[@Kongaii]

I feel like it’s weird to say review bombed with this game given that it’s getting these horrible reviews because the game is ruined by its p2w

[@K3end0]

How's that weird? When MTX is included in a game, it becomes part of the game. Gamers are more than entitled to review a game based on them, just as how gamers can review a game based on any other factor.

[@Kongaii]

@@K3end0 what Im trying to say is that "Review bombing" is often used as a way to hurt the game despite how good the actual game is whereas this game is like at a base 6/10 or a 5/10 and these microtransactions are straight up ruining the game completely, people are just giving the game a fair rating

[@JackFrost69]

Yup, I agree completely. I feel like "review bombed" should be taken out of the title.

[@BaithNa]

I think you're confusing a coordinated review bomb with just bombing reviews

[@wrathfulgaming3373]

P2W? It's basically pay to not grind for 30 hours to move 1.5% through the content.

[@cambot339]

You have to love a game that has more complicated economic mechanics than actual game mechanics 🤣

[@kamikaze00007]

There really needs to be a "Videogame Consumer Protection Law". It would be a law that requires all videogames that requires consumers to spend a certain amount of money, to provide a full-featured offline game, with no strings attached like DRM or timed expiration codes in them. This ensures that consumers of even f2p games can get something concrete out of their money, once they spend a certain amount of it (like as much as a standalone game would cost) on a videogame. This also prevents online-only videogames made solely for the predatory gambling-infused monetization schemes from flooding the market and taking over the entire industry. You can still play online-only games or subscription based ones, but once you spend a certain amount, the game will allow you to play a single-player offline mode that contains everything that you would normally see on the online mode (minus the multiplayer feature).

[@kevingame3198]

Yes that way this will put greedy companies feet to the fire and will be like oh sht we shouldn’t be doing this anymore it turns out we can’t get away with it after all. We already seen this with Belgium and the Netherlands banning loot boxes but that’s only one step there’s gonna be some sort of unionization like how we protested with the Activision Blizzard scandal for employees protesting and speaking out I have to be the same thing where we have to speak out and share stories about there gambling experiences

[@talkadelics]

Straight up

[@GoodwillWright]

So... you need to pay money to play with friends? At this point, you might as well just outright ban microtransactions (not like I would have a problem).

[@kamikaze00007]

@@GoodwillWright No. I think you got it mixed up. You can play a game online and all like with F2P MMOs and such, but my idea of the law would make it so if you spend like say $100 at some point in your AA MMO game, an offline mode where you can play the entire game tailored for one-player mode (with a separate local save) becomes unlocked for you to play anytime you wish. That way, it's the same as you purchasing a full game. Many folks (especially enablers) will probably say that will cost the devs more money. But people need to understand that companies that make purely online games make it so not because it is cheaper, but because they want to bank in more cash fast and is predatory at the very least. Greedy at most. I recall there being a dev of an MMO some years back being interviewed secretly, saying that it doesn't really take much effort for a company with a functional online game like an MMO to package the entire game as a single-player game. They scale stuff for solo first and then just add multipliers for online-play already. They just don't want to, because online games bank way more money than it normally should, given the amount of resources they spend to make them. Having an online-only game that sells is like winning the videogame industry lottery for these companies. They also use many excuses like cheat security and such, but time has always proven hackers will hack even just online. In the end, consumers are the ones who slowly lose everything, especially their rights to own the games they buy.

[@quack9355]

At this point, I am willing to starve the company till they are bankrupt. This is not the Blizzard of old anymore

[@jeffy1862]

Don’t hold your breath dude. Between the whales that will stay, and the WoW players Stockholm syndrome, they’ll be golden for quite some time.

[@Nukem962001]

@@jeffy1862 I think WoW is the only thing holding them afloat.

[@jeffy1862]

@@Nukem962001 Yeah, but they seem to be working diligently to put a stop to that.

[@mikkelnpetersen]

"Classic Diablo experience", ahhh yes, I fondly remember when I had to pay to even remotely have a chance against the bosses in Diablo 1 and 2.

[@jmal]

I remember when I paid 10 installments of $9.99 to be able to beat the Butcher. Good times.

[@_wanted_outlaw3007]

@@jmal Pepperidge Farm remembers when I had to sign-in every single day or I lose my gear so I whale-out and buy the pass again because the game's just that good.

[@WilliamHaist]

Y'know what, I don't think it was "review bombed". That term at least for me indicates the public unfairly giving a negative rating for a product due to outside circumstances. This could be due to negative press surrounding a company, or any number of reasons but none of which actually address the game. This game truly deserves to be getting the shit it is getting. One of the guys from blizzard tried to defend their predatory business model by claiming "we don't sell 12 slot gear" - as if to completely ignore the existence of gems...... I hope blizzard rots.

[@nickhewes6860]

Ugh, I saw that yesterday. As if selling gems isn't contextually included in the promise not to sell gear. "No, we won't sell gear that instantly makes you invincible, that would be bad game design." Proceeds to sell gems you insert into gear that makes you invincible... "See? We kept our promise!"

[@Aereto]

I prefer seeing every Blizzard employee blacklisted from any indie dev scene. I don't want cancer to spread, and will treat such growth with Broken Arrow approach.

[@WilliamHaist]

@@Aereto I don't believe ALL blizzard employees are mentally deranged, just some of them.

[@GKSchattenjaeger]

It's one of the most predatory monetization schemes I've seen. Fully expected this crap considering it was made by Netease. Let's see what kind of crap they pull with Diablo 4.

[@anthonyreynolds3418]

I will not play diablo 4 because of this. That's saying a lot as I built my first computer when I was 12 to play diablo 1 after playing it on a demo disk on my friends father's PC. They piss on the fan base then I'm not going to be one of the fan base. Some people might enjoy that.....

[@anthonyreynolds3418]

@AlEx3KillA it's not but the company has tried to implement this type of pay to win/loot box in their other pc games. They tried with the auction house in diablo 3. It will be even worse in diablo 4. And why because its a mobile game does this make it OK? It is not OK..... Anyone that thinks it acceptable is wrong. You have to spend 100k to reach maximum level! You do realise there are people's lives that will be destroyed because of this game. Addiction is real and I will not be one of the people who helped support this.

[@TheDevilsAdvocate.]

That’s how much thought they put into it, an insane amount. They actually solved the problem when the boss said, “make me a loot box without making a loot box”. F**king nuts man.

[@mkaleborn]

Yup it’s literally, ‘pay us money to enter this cool dungeon that’s the only way to progress. Or we’ll nerf the hell out it.’ Pure evil… They literally became Diablo.

[@katyyulig]

They didn’t solve anything. They just copied the monetization strategies from other mainstream mobile games.

[@ricardohoang8452]

Ah yes they solved that problem with the worse solutions they can imagine! Oh well ActiBlizz is so, so done 🤡

[@quickdrawmcgraw3567]

@@katyyulig Agreed, its literally Gacha shit and MTX nonsense stuffed into a really fun mobile ARPG... such a shame

[@ancalagoonn]

I feel like they hired more psychologists to study how to milk people with gambling addictions to the maximum rather than programmers to make a good game. It's crazy the ammount of psychology tricks this casino dressed as a game uses to make it easy for players to waste money on it and ease players into doing it.

[@gitrekt-gudson]

I literally have friends that are upset that I refuse to play this. They say all the content creators exposing this junk are just liars and biased and misleading and that you don't need to spend money. I just laugh. I fully expect I won't see them still playing after a week or two.

[@CeesaX]

Exactly. These games all work by making you think you don't need to spend real money in the early stages. Then, once you've committed some time and have become emotionally invested in the game, that's when you start to see signs that money might be a bit more necessary than optional. That's when people either open their wallets or quit.

[@vitamint3]

It's like those korean mmos, you can Grind anything by grind I mean 24/24 7/7 for a year and you might make it, lmao, the issue is this isn't those stupid korean mmo this is a necrophilia of Diablo

[@harvbegal6868]

Two weeks is typically how long it takes people to see the shit beneath the newness and convincing of oneself that it is awesome.

[@CSRT123]

yeah you don't need to pay money to progress in the story, but you still progress slower than pay to win players and you will never beat them in pvp or pve.

[@NneonNTJ]

You can totally play this F2P, you're just gonna miss out on alot of things that make the game be a Diablo game, a big thing in the game is loot. but when all the good stuff is behind a paywall... I'm not so sure if F2P can be fun

[@FeedMeSalt]

I swear when a company goes through a full overhaul or buy out the name should be changed by law. Blizzard is not Blizzard.

[@CaptainBloodsail]

Should be renamed Buzzard

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Imagine if getting leg. gems just involved beating a boss or something... Instead you get one-time offer popups. Sigh. The craziest instant of monetization has been the Special deal that in total, asks you to pay 3.5 AAA game's worth of money to get a single gem upgraded almost to the max.

[@vormarsch]

And for this, the D:Immo disaster cannot be labelled an (a)RPG at all, since any true RPG does not disrupt your in-character experience, forcing you into personal RL decisions.

[@3rdtimesacharm84]

I'm surprised you didn't hone in on the fact that you are "rewarded" for beating bosses with an opportunity to buy a loot package for that boss. AND if you buy the "beginner pack" there is literally nothing you can buy with that amount of premium currency!

[@prezzeruk4054]

These companies will keep doing this, while players are willing to pay. We need to educate the players, as well as fight back against the devs/publishers!

[@veenoir1991]

You're not wrong, and if people have kids they should teach them about micro transactions. I heard my daughter (8) playing roblox and her friend said he bought robucks and she's like "ew why did you spend money on it?" Lmao bossin.

[@generalsavage4103]

I got a feeling that's not going to happen as long as they can advertise the kids and the kids can get ahold of their parent's credit cards that money is just is just sitting there on the table for them and you know capitalism says you got to take it

[@666MaRius9991]

@@veenoir1991 You did a fantastic job as a parent then grats 👍

[@zeromage0243]

To quote the legendary red shirt guy : is this an out of season April fools joke

[@strider1237]

Diablo- An amazing game that was groundbreaking for its time Diablo 2- One of the best gaming sequels ever made Diablo 3- Your friendly neighborhood auction house which to the pleasure of fans was removed and a boring vanilla D3 was saved with loot 2.0 and ROS. Diablo Immortal- HIDE YOUR KIDS. HIDE YO WIFE.

[@finalfroggitapproaches6418]

Blizzard is the company of a thousand bad decisions, and I’m delighted they’re getting dragged through the mud for it. Let’s make an example of what happens to companies who choose shifty monetization practices over giving players their money’s worth. The only thing they’re good for is making absolutely stunning (and exceptionally misleading) game trailers. Bury them.

[@ThatGuyInHere]

Well said!!

[@slavchansidorov32]

Nah, its good decesions actually. Far more people have extremely shitty taste and it makes them giant profits

[@ThatGuyInHere]

@@slavchansidorov32 well yeah but its not right

[@slavchansidorov32]

@@ThatGuyInHere you ignore the fact where its your defenition of right.

[@Lazzil]

@@ThatGuyInHere Blizzard doesn't care about what's right. They care about what profits.

[@Constellasian]

Video game companies keep making P2W games and microtransactions because they're making money from it. From a business perspective, it makes sense for a company to keep selling what's making them substantially more money instead of something that isn't. Heck, even Square Enix is making a bet on NFTs now. Serious and casual gamers alike need to stop paying for these things. It's that simple.

[@timc5006]

Cash is the king , that's the world of finance. Market determines the company. You can't blame the money for making more money but to blame the people who offers to throw away their cash. The only issue that I have with blizzard is they straight up lying.

[@swaggadash9017]

Thing is they aren't even selling anything tangible, it's literally a money pit that people throw their money into.

[@failegion7828]

The fact that you can spend 20 bucks on a rift, and fail which basically means you tossed 20 bucks into the fire is hilarious. Also honestly a Pay to Win would be less predatory approach. Buying top tier gear + gems would cost far less than playing against RNG.

[@vespenegas261]

It's outright gambling and it should be banned by law. I don't even understand how would any one could get a kick out of it. Like in the casino you have a slim chance of making money back (if you don't spend too much time there) but this is just some lines of code and a 3d model you can put on your favorite doll.

[@thewardenofoz3324]

@@vespenegas261 now this begs the question... Is playing video games just playing with virtual dolls?

[@talkadelics]

@@thewardenofoz3324 LOLOLOL

[@hatchimmmmm]

Somethings gone horribly wrong when the Gaming industry and an Drug Cartel have the same business model.

[@brandongray1059]

That's not review bombing. Players responding to a game and criticizing it with legitimate concerns is the opposite of review bombing.

[@SwaggStar03]

The sad part is, even with a low user score plenty of people are still playing this game and spending money in it, This cash grab of a game is being streamed by some of the biggest streamers on the planet. Like it or not, Activision Blizzard is going to make a fuckin killing off of pc gamers that would have normally never played this on mobile. So please my fellow gamers, don't let the low rating on this game fool you, the pc version of this game is going to be an enormous win for Activision Blizzard and the truly worst part is more companies are going to see this and start to do the same thing. So if you are playing this, you need to stop! If you are thinking about playing this don't! Because if you do, this will only entice Activision Blizzard and other companies like them to do more shit like this.

[@MrRichmanCash]

If you ask anyone living in the Eastern part of Europe or Asia, you'll get compliments about the game.

[@Lucromis]

It started as an out of season April Fool’s joke, and it will always be, as blizzard becomes a mobile game company.

[@10191927]

I think people saw immediately they were moving away from PC games and eventually just strictly being a mobile game developer, when they announced this and that they had more in development as well for mobile, Blizzard was dead right there if they weren’t already,

[@theannualantagonist5930]

Why do you think they made mobile games, clearly they need more IP’s to boost their monetary numbers. “See we’re still earning money guys..”

[@kjax139]

Won’t don’t people actually review bomb where the game is located also? App Store is showing a 4.9/5 stars…not many people look at metacritic for mobile games

[@MadsFeierskov]

Imagine paying $20 for a skin on a mobile game, when you have literally play Elden Ring for 200 hours before finishing the game for $60. How stupid do you have to be to keep paying these companies off.

[@ChrisGrump]

I'd rather pay 20 on skin than play Elden Ring. But yeah, in general these prices are insane. So many good games can be had for 20 bucks.

[@gorkemaykut5230]

@@ChrisGrump I'd rather shove that 20 dollar up my ass before I spent it on a cosmetic skin in a pay to win game

[@CoolManCoolMan123]

Well, it's basically taking advantage of people who don't have a PC or have a bad PC. And they these companies are pretty great at that, especially Activision side. You know how much COD mobile is loved? But Blizzard side doesn't know that.

[@kiearawagner7901]

Not to mention you get access to all the main bosses weapons, spells, and outfits with no additional cost (outside of Souls/Runes, of course.) If this game was made and or published by EA you can bet your bottom dollar you'd have to pay fifteen dollars *per character* to wear say, that awesome and now iconic outfit of Malenia's.

[@DeathbyDawn141]

TF you talking about It took me like 30hrs to beat Elden Ring, if you ignore most of the side stuff it doesn't take very long. At 89hrs I have a shit ton of stuff, the armor sets I want, and the weapons I needed for my build.

[@originalgaming1663]

I can/can't believe they tried to pitch this bullshit to an auditorium full of PC enthusiasts... Enough is enough, no more paying for anything but a complete game. We can do it gamers! I can assure you all there is no need for these loot-boxes or cosmetics. Gamblers, please go back to casinos. Thank you.

[@JohnDoe-tj8lj]

Seriously, ill never play this trash

[@peacechan4500]

You do realize that gamblers are already in your midst? The cat is already tap dancing out of the bag so now they can't get in anymore. This problem already exists since 2019 but y'all don't say a thing because it's in mobile. And now you reap the rewards

[@originalgaming1663]

@@peacechan4500 Confusing, but I'll bite. I've been advocating for this since like 2010/11... Ever since they replaced the once great Planetside with a mtx-filled sequel no one asked for. But again, not sure if we can have legitimate discourse when I don't understand the majority of your ramblings.

[@pokiblue5870]

with so many games available right now, i just dont play those games with massive microtransaction stuff. Look at league of legends , you have a complete game and skins are optional but even then you can get free skins by playing the game.

[@originalgaming1663]

"So many games" yeah, indie games... Which are typically limited experiences and rudimentary. I will agree to an extent with League as I've crafted the majority of skins I own, but it still enables the fixation on cosmetics. They use people's nostalgia for their favorite IP's to nickel and dime. They use people's desire to be unique and accomplished to nickel and dime. This behavior should not be tolerated. Our games have turned into soft af war barbie dress up time and it sucks. Games are made for cosplayers, streamers, and whales now. Players have lost all power in purchasing an actual good recognizable by law and they are inflating profits with these predatory cosmetic sales. All of it used to just be a part of the game. Private servers/map creators are relics of the past. They've destroyed everything that is counterproductive to their schemes and anything that gives players choice or power. They've maximized short-term gains like they always do. It's a microcosm of the globalist agenda and unsustainable. Do yourself, the future of gaming, and the world as we know it a huge solid and support right to own/repair.

[@Lesson333]

Step 1: Release game with 100.000 dollars in microtransactions Step 2: Outcry from players ensues Step 3: "We hear the community" Step 4: Reduce the 100.000 to 50.000 (the value you intended all along) Step 5: Players are appeased and good PR while profiting as intended Two steps Forward, One Step Back

[@ElCaptainAustralia]

It’s 100,000 - you don’t use a period in place of a comma with numbers, unless you’re decimalising it, you mutt.

[@justsomeaveragekoala1900]

A legend once said "is this an out of season April fools joke?"...

[@mahaok1]

Shoutout to the war veteran gamers who figure out how these microtransaction systems work because yong spent like 5 mins explaining it and i still dont have a clue how it works lol. And these guys have to do this for EVERY new game they report on

[@artnull13]

Yeah the systems seem to be overly complicated that even big game streamers seem to be confused about how it works.

[@Mikemonster311]

Watching YongYea for a concise, professional and calm reporting of news, knowing full well that when I inevitably go to watch AngryJoe's review it is going to give me hearing problems.

[@cerealkilla187]

AJ: “ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?!?!”

[@kriscynical]

What, don't you guys have volume buttons??

[@Kumire_921]

One good thing about these shitty games is that at least we'll get a fun review about them

[@Zeverinsen]

@@Kumire_921 True. I'm addicted to watching people shame greedy companies.

[@vormarsch]

He's actually getting very emotional and calm at the end of his "rant" .. it's almost heart breaking

[@kingscrump]

The gaming community has proven they can make a difference with these companies.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

11:11 Wrong info or typo. That bundle costs 0.99$, not 9.99$.