Diagnose & repair a unique fault, a hard one! How to trigger power output on a locked battery

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Electronics Repair School

Electronics Repair School

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@CrucialSpeaks
@CrucialSpeaks 2 жыл бұрын
....WOW! How great to have that depth of understanding of these. ... from a 45 year component level technician! - BTW I ALWAYS SHARE YOUR VIDEOS! THEY ARE THE BEST EVER!
@erdaler1682
@erdaler1682 2 жыл бұрын
very intelligent solution, thank you very much Mr. Sorin..
@mardina1a
@mardina1a 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really hard that you re working with many different brands and models of laptops every öne has different design hard job.thank you for that Good lesson.
@8500gtNvidia
@8500gtNvidia 2 жыл бұрын
The Master is here! Well done Sorin!
@DOGEME
@DOGEME 2 жыл бұрын
Always great value packed videos, thanks for sharing !
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 2 жыл бұрын
🤗👍👌 exactly what I Had on my tablet , I did what you always do, because I brought a multi power supply like you , and a multimeter, battery was taking zero volt. I had to shake the battery by cells and then became to charge. This is because I didn't went on internet for few weeks and I turned of the tablet for long without charging... For a reason the battery discharge on Android google as if we turn off the button. So these chrome works like that, you must charge it as if you don't use it. I have the same plate battery, only one of the two. This is because I listen to your repairs and brought the material, that I'm able to do it, because I had to open the tablet. Last year I changed the battery wich was dead, after fifteen months non stop well working. So thanks for the video!🙏💚🧡
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 2 жыл бұрын
I add also about my quad-core chinese tablet, working well every day, since two years, became my connected source, having also my phone on it, the USB C port have been made independently from the mother board, so it is moving a little bit, but working well. But this is amazing to be afraid in that way, always thinking the port is dead, and no, it is fine every time I had opened the tablet, thinking this would be why the tablet not charging.. So think this will be useful. I brought a USB charging cable that is blinking red and blue when talking to the S IO, red when charging and blue when no current more. So, imagine when the tablet not coming on, the cable standing blue, the cells saying zero volt, and my variable power supply sending 2amps for nothing charging. So this is a conceptual issue not a material issue. I think this is not either a security, this is a back door on the system wich is not made to let your computer account off the outside net control. They yant you to be a consumer, non stop. Not being so free!!! that you can put for a month you device off without being connected to data they find in domestic current, wifi, 4G, bluetooth triangulation. As turned off, your computer keep sending informations by those ways, so big data knows you anyway, and keep an EYE on you.😵 If you stop this, the sanction is immediate😱, and your computer is dead. Some will buy a new, some will learn at electronic repair school!🤗👌🙏💚🧡
@saltcityrepairs5121
@saltcityrepairs5121 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sorin, indeed its a very interesting case. Very informative - this one is Noted
@windycl111
@windycl111 2 жыл бұрын
Love watching you do your MAGIC
@and12an
@and12an 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your chanel, your time, explaining different aspects of electronics and showing how to troubelshoot. I used to follow Louis Rossmann but he stopped doing repair vids. NorthridgeFix seems to be just an advertising chanel for his business, with only simple repairs. Wish you luck in your new business and I hope that your chanel will stay the way it is :)
@BilimTek26
@BilimTek26 2 жыл бұрын
NorthridgeFix guy is repairing with fault patterns. I have not seen him repair a unique fault.
@smdmicrosoldering
@smdmicrosoldering 2 жыл бұрын
@@BilimTek26 Not so Northridge is equally as informative you need to watch properly.
@and12an
@and12an 2 жыл бұрын
@@smdmicrosoldering Not even close.
@smdmicrosoldering
@smdmicrosoldering 2 жыл бұрын
@@and12an Not even close on what? What are you talking about?
@rfr653
@rfr653 2 жыл бұрын
Good job mate 👍
@jamesthomas2417
@jamesthomas2417 2 жыл бұрын
Sorin had to laugh , could see the old grey matter working overtime, thanks for the video
@ElRoso
@ElRoso 2 жыл бұрын
Good day master Watching from Philippines
@malikkhan_01
@malikkhan_01 2 жыл бұрын
So informative. Thank you so much.
@laboratorioassembler
@laboratorioassembler 2 жыл бұрын
This was great Sorin
@paolodimasi9332
@paolodimasi9332 2 жыл бұрын
You are DIABOLIK good job number one for me
@alexander19681
@alexander19681 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man! good job.
@incandescentwithrage
@incandescentwithrage 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a factory bodge 0ohm at 18:58 to save on a transistor?
@giorgostexnikos6976
@giorgostexnikos6976 2 жыл бұрын
amazing
@ytrew9717
@ytrew9717 2 жыл бұрын
2:00 what is a "frozen super IO"?
@frozendude707
@frozendude707 2 жыл бұрын
I think he is referring to that a super I/O chip runs some simple firmware to change states and have different modes and such, if it cannot change states anymore for some reason then.... I have also experienced similar problems, usually removing all power and letting everything discharge forces it to reset completely, which often fixes it.
@ytrew9717
@ytrew9717 2 жыл бұрын
@@frozendude707 thanks a lot for taking the time to answer!
@oz457
@oz457 2 жыл бұрын
You have so much patience. I would be swearing when I would encounter this kind of issue! LOL. 73's de ON7OFF
@mansirrabiu7412
@mansirrabiu7412 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir
@orion310591RS
@orion310591RS 2 жыл бұрын
18:25 - Why you use diode mode and black probe on GND? Convention says diode mode and red probe on GND. Just asking for clarification.
@kniznicakomarno2868
@kniznicakomarno2868 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Sorin, great videos. Can you please tell what type of microscope you use. Thanks.
@algis3207
@algis3207 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! You said you ordered a new battery, did that fix the problem?
@Iceking007
@Iceking007 2 жыл бұрын
On occasion when Batteries fall below a threshold voltage they will no longer take a charge, and the monitoring circuit sits the system down. It can be possible to force charge the battery and get it above the threshold voltage, you'll get some more life out of it... but is a sign of EOL.
@pheneaschiwenga3392
@pheneaschiwenga3392 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to force charge it using a dc bench power supply
@frozendude707
@frozendude707 2 жыл бұрын
@@pheneaschiwenga3392 Yes you can do that, but some controllers remember that the battery is bad and will not let you charge it normally again (to prevent battery explosion), so you can only use it until the charge is gone again or you reset the parameters of the charge controller.
@vinlingwal
@vinlingwal 2 жыл бұрын
Tilted 0 ohm smd resister at 18:58 .
@YogeshJoshi-Powertec
@YogeshJoshi-Powertec 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sorin, check the video at 18.59 minutes, one 0 Ohm resistance not looking good, seems its come off the motherboard
@kas262
@kas262 2 жыл бұрын
It's OK, this is a poor man's dip switch
@quattro4lifet844
@quattro4lifet844 2 жыл бұрын
Is this temporary or those the laptop also charging? And can be used ?
@gcbification
@gcbification 2 жыл бұрын
Top left of SIO ...tracks/solder joints looks like they got hot
@ivomagalhaes1
@ivomagalhaes1 2 жыл бұрын
Um simples fio resolve, parabéns
@screen-protector
@screen-protector 2 жыл бұрын
I received a few weeks ago one laptop from a customer. Dead short you'd say as well, but was exact fault. Only I did not go through such long process. I started to unplug things as always I do, and when I've unplugged the battery, laptop has boot up. But yes, this is not a most common fault. I don't remember if I've got a video about that laptop cause I've got too many of them now :D and few weeks ahead as well.
@diytechspirit914
@diytechspirit914 2 жыл бұрын
Use your battery analyzer and unlock it and then charge it thrue analyzer to test it.Might as well use it if you have it lying around.
@westsenkovec
@westsenkovec 2 жыл бұрын
Read the description. Also, this is at work and not his home shop.
@diytechspirit914
@diytechspirit914 2 жыл бұрын
@@westsenkovec First he had it at work if you would watch his older videos you would see that. In the description he just says that they are disabling the battery who said that it cant be revived with the analyzer sure it cant it was built for that purpose as well.
@santoshprajapati8766
@santoshprajapati8766 2 жыл бұрын
It's a one year old video.. see description.
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 2 жыл бұрын
@@diytechspirit914 From memory he has 2 analysers, because he had the old model at work and the analyser maker sent him the new model recently.
@maklogetrich2378
@maklogetrich2378 2 жыл бұрын
@@diytechspirit914 I think I've seen this video before, maybe got deleted or something
@johannbiker8803
@johannbiker8803 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍nice to see you
@dianeneris4938
@dianeneris4938 Жыл бұрын
The power port on the motherboard, not the port on the small board with power switch, has a broken and twisted pin. I ordered a replacement and installed. I still have no current at this port and battery is not being charged at either port. Can I try to power-up C-433t without motherboard power port?
@sherifsamy6129
@sherifsamy6129 2 жыл бұрын
hello mr eng is this bridge over come battary if so the battary is miss and never charge can you explain solution with out bridge thanks for your effort
@Swenser
@Swenser 2 жыл бұрын
Possible to add own bms board to the cells? Battery gauge won't work but will at least charge and discharge safely, right?
@gile849
@gile849 2 жыл бұрын
Bms yes, cell is good but 0V on output.
@ytrew9717
@ytrew9717 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure to understand: was the problem caused by a (or few) faulty cell (but the rest of the battery is working)?
@surgingcircuits6955
@surgingcircuits6955 2 жыл бұрын
I think the charging light "flashing vs solid" was a hint.
@xpanza
@xpanza 2 жыл бұрын
What flux have you used for reflowing?
@colinsmith7379
@colinsmith7379 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I have learned so much from you thanks a lot. With this laptop have you tried unlocking the battery with the machine you reviewed some months ago as it seems like the bios uses the main battery, just a random idea, I think it should be illegal for them to make laptops like this that won't work if the battery goes flat it seems like they have included a chip to stop the battery from charging anyway thanks again.
@theflowbox
@theflowbox 2 жыл бұрын
I already seen this video... is an old video before you have the Romanian battery analyzer, I think now you can use the tool to unlock that battery
@a.z.7193
@a.z.7193 2 жыл бұрын
Romanian Battery Analyzer🤣🤣
@theflowbox
@theflowbox 2 жыл бұрын
@@a.z.7193 Swedish steel, Italian shoes, German beer, Swiss chocolate and Romanian battery Analyzer 🤙
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 2 жыл бұрын
This is a big issue because in a collapse case, those tablets and computers can't work without battery, this is the case using power by solar panels, wind or Tesla antenna. So we need to know how to pass the battery controller. One thing is to have batteries in reserve and charging a little time every day. But this is nt nrmal that the battery discharge as we turn off le tablet, or computer, that means it never go off.
@BilimTek26
@BilimTek26 2 жыл бұрын
Sorin, I think you bypassed the battery protection circuit. It seems very dangreous, battery can be overcharged.
@MrRvdbeek
@MrRvdbeek 2 жыл бұрын
The battery is dead. That’s what the super IO thinks. Is the battery dead or did the power stay to loo for a long time? I have a chrome book and same story. Did battery test did charge it fully and did use it for more than 8 hours whiteout charger. So battery is good but the driver says something else.
@pjhb_microsoldering_portugal
@pjhb_microsoldering_portugal 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sorin, does the video have sound? Best regards, one fan from Portugal 🇵🇹
@borvitech
@borvitech 2 жыл бұрын
The sound is very clear
@pjhb_microsoldering_portugal
@pjhb_microsoldering_portugal 2 жыл бұрын
@@borvitech yes now is ok, must be something with my youtube app, sorry
@ReeseL4D
@ReeseL4D 2 жыл бұрын
If some battery cells have low voltage, you could try charging them directly from your power supply.
@boomer9900
@boomer9900 2 жыл бұрын
It look like the top left corner of the superio solders went blue indicating they were hot.
@bull.dog.
@bull.dog. 2 жыл бұрын
@Sorin - I've seen instances where battery locking up a device, so now whenever I troubleshoot any device, #1 step I unplug the battery and try to power it on without a battery with charger/AC plugged in Surprised you don't do this kind of testing
@ReeseL4D
@ReeseL4D 2 жыл бұрын
16:23
@bull.dog.
@bull.dog. 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReeseL4D oh I watched the whole video... I am surprised he doesn't do this kind of testing from the beginning
@danieloctrinov7681
@danieloctrinov7681 2 жыл бұрын
nice Information Thanks, sorry my english bad, i have problem with Asus ROG G512LV, i never play game, but to long sleep made my Mosfet VRM GPU 1 Shorted (FDPC5018SG) and battrey died like this video, after replace Mosfet now can turn on, GPU RTX 2060 detected, but n Idle with 20watt consume, now running without battrey, when GPU RTX2060 running 2% Laptop shutdown instanly, maybe same with this case? can running the GPU without battrey, when have advice
@nicholasioannou1878
@nicholasioannou1878 2 жыл бұрын
Sorin you forgot to turn the caption for people who have bad hearing
@yashMG
@yashMG 2 жыл бұрын
I think you uploaded this video already Sorin.. In 2021 October 26 Title - Asus C302C dead , a strange fault and design. But nice👍fault finding anyway..
@electronicsrepairschool
@electronicsrepairschool 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really sorry, i can see now indeed has been uploaded, my mistake
@seckinseckin3919
@seckinseckin3919 2 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsrepairschool it is okay sir. you refresh our knowledge. Thanx
@waynesallee-com
@waynesallee-com 2 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsrepairschool This post will be shadow banned by Communist Google: . . Yes, it's a rerun, but, but, but, it's a nice laptop. 🙂 Sorin, you crack me up when you always say " It's a nice laptop" It does not matter how bad the laptop is, you always say "It's a nice laptop". I enjoy watching watching your videos. Keep them coming.
@yashMG
@yashMG 2 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsrepairschool It's ok.. things like this could happen sometimes.. don't mind about it..👍
@frozendude707
@frozendude707 2 жыл бұрын
@@waynesallee-com Well, it is a nice laptop, most laptops that are not HP Pavilion or c-series or ASUS G-series are nice.
@Vander-from-zaun
@Vander-from-zaun 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this video from last year what is going on man
@madalinandreidragnea3793
@madalinandreidragnea3793 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sorin, could you see the tickets number 000140 please?
@xerejuneseve6333
@xerejuneseve6333 2 жыл бұрын
Remember !,It is only for your safety.Bad battery may destroy your universe.
@ReeseL4D
@ReeseL4D 2 жыл бұрын
Asus wants you to buy a new laptop when the battery dies.
@071Rishi
@071Rishi 2 жыл бұрын
same for huawei devices
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 2 жыл бұрын
What a strange laptop, no cmos battery, maybe it uses the main battery, but its ill. so it stays off?
@vrijepers
@vrijepers 2 жыл бұрын
I ll repair Chromebooks for 39 primary schools, a lot i can fix with a hard reset
@baronking6092
@baronking6092 2 жыл бұрын
hp mobile workstation laptop, on with battery but with charger no power and charger is good
@Iceking007
@Iceking007 2 жыл бұрын
Is that like a USB C charger or something?! Weird.
@ronlevin2339
@ronlevin2339 2 жыл бұрын
I hate laptops were everything is soldered to the mother board
@yodaco
@yodaco 2 жыл бұрын
imo it is happening this way these days because of 3rd party battery circumvention. Knock the board out unless the proper battery is detected is an obvious move in my mind.
@frankinga3120
@frankinga3120 2 жыл бұрын
No sound.
@Sortfich1
@Sortfich1 2 жыл бұрын
No sound sorin
@goranivancevic8342
@goranivancevic8342 2 жыл бұрын
Very dangerous, the battery can catch fire
@Popeyes66
@Popeyes66 2 жыл бұрын
Replacement battery £32 Amazon.
@einfelder8262
@einfelder8262 2 жыл бұрын
All that effort and it's just a useless chromebook......
@skeggjoldgunnr3167
@skeggjoldgunnr3167 2 жыл бұрын
I mean - REALLY!! Who on EARTH has Pornography on their login screen?
@frozendude707
@frozendude707 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, this was prolly just for privacy, but let's just say that privacy of customer data is not the only reason serious repair techs usually have the repair stations in another room outside of view, and those that don't learn that lesson the hard way when customers start quietly exiting when the porn, and worse, starts popping up.
@skeggjoldgunnr3167
@skeggjoldgunnr3167 2 жыл бұрын
@@frozendude707 That time when my daughter was using her boyfriend's computer. She called me up to let me know that she found his stash folder labled "code snippets" Apparently the love of her life really likes horses. Male horses. Excited male horses. - I screamed "TMI"!! TMI...tmi....
@krzysieko8355
@krzysieko8355 2 жыл бұрын
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