Dialogue between a Palestinian and an Israeli

[@raphaelturrasprenger7394]

With the factual knowledge we have now... this scene really sends chills down the spine.

[@olechristianhenne6583]

It's not just that Hamas is PMI (para military islam) like Wagner group PMC is owned or bought by isreal and Arabs aka rich Jews and rich Arabs elites you see the truth is money is the root of all evil

[@onthewattle]

We’ve had this knowledge for a long time, it’s just a new generation is finding out

[@harrybaker5]

ok terrorist

[@TruthSeeker8834]

One thing in this video isn’t true which is not all Palestinians are arabs. Most of them are converts ( we call revert) Muslim from other semitic race and jews as well. It’s Isr*eli propaganda to push all of them as Arab.

[@bluemarlin8138]

Actually, we’ve always known that Palestinians want to destroy Israel.

[@akshayneha]

"Home is everything". This line brings tears in my eyes as someone who has moved to another country.

[@akbarjan1129]

Are you not happy there?

[@dhruvkasthuri6401]

Then come back to India. Don't leave us!

[@Gentledudy]

As a gypsy I can tell you that home is where there are people who love you and care about you Home is not a place, home is where the heart is.

[@swewunna]

Home is where the heart is and home is where you head lies at night.

[@akshayneha]

@@dhruvkasthuri6401 Oh brother, I just saw your comment so sorry for commenting late. So long story short, I moved to US for my MBA, for which I took a student loan (I had a hefty scholarship so the loan is not that big, but not small either). So, at the very least I want to recuperate my loan and then some before I come back. It is tough but I decided to fight it out. In the last one year, I met a girl here and we got engaged and married (she's also Indian who came via student visa), so I'm much happier here now. Things are more stable. I will always miss India (honestly it's not even about India, I miss my hometown Jaipur, my family and friends, I wouldn't live anywhere else in India) but I've decided to stay here for at least a few more years. It's like, I can always go back to India whenever I want so that thought gives me strength and solace. Also, after graduating I've started earning so things are better, I can book a ticket whenever I want to go, and I can always visit. Finally, I would say that I'm fully aware the US will not be my home no matter how long I live here, my home and heart is in India. Just the thought of home brings joy to me. I feel fully empathetic for people who get displaced due to whatever reasons. There is nothing like home.

[@spencerkindra8822]

I’ve seen this movie about 4 times and only just noticed that Avner despite actually being Israeli is putting on a really good German accent. Now it’s said several times his dad is German but either way, Eric Bana does a good job playing an Israeli playing a German. Fantastic scene.

[@jenricoformon4704]

What sis the title of the movie please

[@firdausfarul]

@@jenricoformon4704 munich

[@troycarpenter3675]

He's a top actor

[@racializedkanadian]

Bana is PHENOMENAL in this film.

[@tasinal-hassan8268]

Not his dad. His dad's Croatian and mom's German.

[@jamescalinaya7028]

50 years later, still no peace.

[@pronessguy4567]

There has never been peace on that side of the world. They persecute eachother over religion. Muslims pursue everyone that’s outside of their religion including Jews and Christian’s

[@mikhailabunidal9146]

A grusomely Ongoing vicious cycle

[@m.dthedemon4076]

Zionism is to blame.

[@jdn44511]

Can't have it, peace means apocalypse

[@naveensuresh811]

Islam is ☪️ ancer

[@cobra8888]

You know the ironic and tragic part. Both have “Shalom/Salam” as their greeting….yet the one thing missing is Peace between them.

[@Overlorddz]

Oh THAT'S the problem!

[@khabbad]

There are absolutely Palestinian Christians….Bethlehem is in the Palestinian territory

[@melehhaflafel5884]

@@khabbad palestinian christans also speak arabic, so they also say salam

[@khabbad]

@@melehhaflafel5884 I was responding to a comment that had been deleted

[@robertoacevedo3805]

Well, Peace does not make money. Selling arms to willing buyers and wealth acquisition is what it will always be about.

[@htotube]

"You don't know what it is not to have home. HOME is everything"... I felt that.

[@ДжейкобКосточко]

As a Chechen I agree

[@diollinebranderson6553]

He said that as if the Jews weren't the most persecuted people on earth and didn't have a home for 2000 years...

[@Jay-xr3sb]

​@@diollinebranderson6553 but he is talking to someone pretending to be a German. 2 state

[@diollinebranderson6553]

@@Jay-xr3sb doesn't matter if he's a German or not you dingus

[@Jay-xr3sb]

@@diollinebranderson6553 calm down, you're a bit sensitive aren't you. Jews being persecuted in history means it is acceptable for Israel to persecute Palestinians?

[@YearOfCam]

The irony (despite misleading title on clip) is: In film, the 'Palestinian" had no idea he was addressing an Israeli - in which case the dialogue probably wouldn't have occurred. This film took a lot of flack for being crypto-this and that, for betraying Israel from within, but one of its legitimate claims to brilliance is in asking "what if our identities were stripped away and we could (at least partially) see things in less biased terms; Wouldn't we come to a better understanding then"? It's a great film, and hopefully the first of many more from the Spielberg / Kushner collaboration.

[@luisguillermojg]

Spielberg and Kushner went on to collaborate again with 'Lincoln', another great (if very different) historical film.

[@CMY187]

I love that the movie chooses not to take sides or attempt to persuade its audience to do so; it simply tells the story, shows its characters, and lets us decide who is 'more' right or wrong. In my opinion, one should never always try to make things black or white. Israel, Palestine...there are good, bad and neutral people on both sides. Same in every other conflict (surely not all of the German soldiers in WW2 were demonic, just like not all of the US soldiers in WW2 were saints)

[@catalinasimmons6314]

YearOfCam yeah well the Kushner name is scum in USA. Maybe in Israel after Jared gets out of prison where the fucker belongs. Things are rapidly changing in US. Now majority on side of free Palestine.

[@BadMouse101]

Kyle, I presume he's zionist.

[@bloggaloggs]

@Kyle R Because until a Palestinian state comes into existence (and I am not arguing against it), 'Palestinians' are really Jordanian Arabs.

[@evahorvat7009]

This conversation age like fine wine.

[@Morg8685]

this aged well

[@andrewrogers3067]

0:55 Man that aged well

[@SIGNOR-G]

The palestians were and still are fools. Even and i mean EVEN if the other nations didnt think that the massacre was a terrorist act have they forgotten who controls Europe and America. Poor idiots. They were doomed from the start.

[@JerryLouisPutItInYaMouth]

It just shows how nothing has changed

[@kensingtondrake8069]

As brilliant as this scene is; the best scene in the entire movie is when JAMES BOND and the Arab man fight over the radio and end up agreeing on Al Green-Priceless.

[@kensingtondrake8069]

...by Al Green.@Waawawiwaa

[@paolomunoz181]

Well this dialogue aged well..... it's exactly what's happening now

[@_sayan_roy_]

What do you mean aged well ? The conflict has been happening for 75 years now.

[@paolomunoz181]

@@_sayan_roy_ listen to the dialogue. Hamas are being animals. And everyone questioned Israel's ways in treating Palestinians. Now the world knows the conflict

[@runescape9812]

Zoomers when they found out palestine and israel conflict just now:

[@skip1383]

@@_sayan_roy_ Yeah that’s kinda what happens when the Palestinians refuse peace. The war just keeps dragging on.

[@OzAbi]

@@skip1383Peace in an Apartheid State is a funny concept

[@tianqiluo6844]

This movie is more relevant than ever.

[@flannerymonaghan-morris4825]

I agree. We are seeing events repeat themselves to an extent in Gaza…

[@SicKno-i5r]

Spielberg knew this. That's why he made the film.

[@JosephDutra]

You can really see how much these countries hate each other, love this film.

[@DanielMazahreh]

@Reagan Laffite The Israeli government has committed far more crimes, death, and human rights violations towards the Palestinians. It IS NOT a level playing field.

[@chinmaykane2196]

@Reagan Laffite you are ABSOLUTELY right.

[@reemkittaneh2650]

Reagan Laffite you really must know nothing about history or how Islam spread, your rely on western Islam phobia to justify the crimes against Palestinians

[@DanielMazahreh]

@Reagan Laffite Hell is going to be so crowded? Oh, so you believe that everyone who does not have the belief system should be punished and tortured for eternity? Wow! What a moral religion you have. I reject your hate cult of a religion! It is clearly immoral. It seems that you do not have a sense of right and wrong.

[@DanielMazahreh]

@Reagan Laffite Why are you generalizing Palestinians with all Arabs? This is a conversation about Israeli government terrorizing Palestinians. It is not a level playing field. If you are concerned about world peace, you should be very critical of the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the rest of the allied western countries terrorizing and killing millions of people in the Middle East.

[@amarbaouane7537]

Interresting fact : the terrorists called the operation "Iqrit and Biram" after two christian palestinian villages that were depopulated by Israel, the leader of the group was Luttif Afif a christian born in Nazerth and went by the codename "Isa".

[@oogabooga6000]

based ☦️✝️

[@skip1383]

@@oogabooga6000 Based on what? Based on the fact that Israel is smoking Hamas and turning Gaza into a pile of rubble? Based on the fact that Palestinians are finally getting their shit kicked in for harbouring Hamas all these years?

[@OzAbi]

As a Bonus, Isa ist the Arab wird for Jesus.

[@hafidlho7332]

and some people still blame islam just because palestinians are middle eastern lol

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

​@@oogabooga6000 Terrorism isn't "based". Did you forget that "do not murder" is part of the 10 commandments or do you simply not care?

[@pavitiransitrakaundan2239]

"home is EVERYTHING"

[@guydutoit61]

Gives me goosebumps everytime

[@sven-nc7ph]

Crazy how I've seen this movie but this scene flew over my head when i was a kid

[@st.altair4936]

Impressive how impartially Steven Spielberg was able to portray this, considering he's Jewish too.

[@elessar5848]

He went light on Israel.

[@DIOPSIDE7995]

IS THAT COMMUNIST ITACHI????

[@ramkumar-yx1rf]

One of the finest movie dialogues ever written, in few words one could describe the pain of lifetime struggles of ethnic people against majoritarian oppressive states! "You don't know what it is not to have a home, Home is everything".

[@henriquetelles36]

True, without a home you don't exist! A man from nowhere won't leave a trace. This is what sadness me when i hear leftists and anarquists talk trash aboit their country. They don’t now what it is not to have a place to call home. I born and live in one of the most ancient countries in the world, with the same borders and independent in almos 1000 years so i can only imagine what that is. But if i can do it, why so many people can't?

[@jamallabarge2665]

...the Jews do understand what it's like not to have a home. They understand hostile neighbors who treat them as outsiders. What I do not understand is why they had to pick a place that is so important to three Religions. The world is full of places that need some care and hard work. Why there?

[@adamadler5411]

@@jamallabarge2665 History, Jews were in the land of Judea and Samaria thousands of years before the Christians and Muslims. The kingdom of Israel exisited and fought against many empire before there was one muslim in the world. The Jews fought against the romans hundreds of years before christianity existed. Just how the palestinans say its there land jews actually have claims before there ever was a palestine christianity or islam.

[@Primenumber19]

@@jamallabarge2665 it was chosen for them in a post ww2 deal. Simple.

[@jamallabarge2665]

@@adamadler5411 "Jews were in the land of Judea and Samaria thousands of years" They were driven out of Palestine after the 3rd rebellion, in AD 70. Ain't theirs to reclaim.

[@stephenmurphy2212]

The events of 7th October 2023 brought me here.

[@SavoPaddy]

I only just noticed now, re-watching this clip, that the tune in the background is Al Green's "Let's Stay Together". Is that a subtle nod to a one state solution?

[@larrygunees4130]

Its a song of peace, but these people wont listen.

[@jamallabarge2665]

The song was about a man asking his woman to stay with him.

[@marlonquintana3466]

@@larrygunees4130 wrong. The song is about love for a woman.

[@SavoPaddy]

Obviously, I mean its use it this context@@jamallabarge2665

[@devi2691]

this is, in my opinion one of the best scenes in movies. the movie is so-so i admit but this scene, from the lighting, camera work, dialogue, it's flawless. and so sad. two people, who are same arguing about something as wonderful - and terrible - as home.. Xx peace to the world...

[@muhammedhatem9690]

Two people, not the same One is the occupier and the other is the occupied Never the same

[@devi2691]

@@muhammedhatem9690 nah mate. watch the movie and ignore the title of the video. Ali is PLO. Avner is Israeli, but pretending to be Basque. Ali DOES NOT KNOW Avner is Israeli. also, my original comment was... 11 years ago. thanks for the reply.

[@_mark_3814]

@@muhammedhatem9690yes the Jews are occupying the land they lived in before the ottomans and even before the Arabs came in the 7th century! The Jews conquered the lands from the British to occupied its Arab people. What a narrative

[@BartolomeoColleoni94]

@@devi2691 Basque ? No . German . Yes .

[@devi2691]

​@BartolomeoColleoni94 one of them is pretending to be Basque. It's shouted during the Mexican standoff at the start of the scene in the safe house. Could be the bombmaker.. great scene though, yes?

[@gpapa31]

Spielberg’s criminally underrated and unrecognised masterpiece which IMHO deserves a spot right next to Schindler’s List. His 2 R-rated magnum opuses.

[@tylercafe1260]

Whenever media like this becomes relevant again what we really need to reflect on is if any of these movies, books, and stories really get through to people.

[@HELLO_KORO]

They really don't, people need to experience it to fully get it

[@deagle2yadome696]

“It will take 100 years, but we’ll win…”

[@Bananabear20]

Never ending war

[@jimmy2k4o]

Until that day, they keep losing Long live Israel!

[@martinmind3785]

@@jimmy2k4o But that day, the Jews will have no peace, they will not receive mercy because they never had it... start looking for dialogue because history tends to repeat itself and I doubt that they will have the advantage of seeing Jerusalem burn... again.

[@glenmichaelwong517]

​@@jimmy2k4ohaaretz said otherwise

[@BartolomeoColleoni94]

@@jimmy2k4o you’re actually losing the propaganda war and no one feels any bit sorry over your hyped up atrocities anymore - while you steal from them.

[@thejackalmilano]

It absolutely is, this part touches my heart!

[@victorrain]

What did you think of the scene where Avner’s mother is telling him all the killing and death was worth it? “We have a place on earth, at last.”

[@MrRenatopepin]

In case you don't know the context for this scene: a french mercenary arranged a "safe house", a shit hole of a house for Avner group (Mossad) and for PLO at the same time, unbeknownst for both groups. Thats exactly the mirror situation for Israel-Palestine conflict: major nations with little care arranging the same territory for both Israelis and Palestines.

[@NathanielHellerstein]

The Twice-Promised Land.

[@MrIrishscouse]

This scene sums up a century of struggle. Well put.

[@SIGNOR-G]

Ah yes its always the fault of europeans... those poor semites are incapable of choosing for themselves because eeeeevil whitey. BAH...

[@WuhanMan2013]

Chilling dialogue. Is this a harbinger of things to come?

[@MrKaz2]

We are all human beings. We all should be judged by our own actions. You can demonize as much as you want but it only goes to show how a horrific lie can be interperted as the truth if it's repeated enough times.

[@shinlanten]

Avner got the PLO philosophy straight from the horse's mouth

[@SirWilliamRoyce]

More relevant than ever now.

[@oswald1419]

Literally came back to watch this video in light of recent news

[@z1az285]

remember who said "human animals"

[@SeArCh4DrEaMz]

bruh eric bana is such an underrated actor its insane

[@jameshoran8]

Ali had to realize during the conversation that Avnar wasn't German..... but Israeli.

[@JnEricsonx]

Blood would have been spilled 5 seconds later. No, he just figured him for, as he said, a German feeling guilt for what his parents/grandparents did.

[@vegan133earth3]

One of the best scenes in all cinema

[@amsterdamcowboy9738]

Jesus. Not really. It aint bad but jeez

[@TamimProduction]

This video must go viral... It was never as relevant as now

[@MScorpioM]

"HOME IS EVERYTHING" Powerful statement 👏.

[@delano4526]

Israel shall always have a home in Israel, but if the terrorists win, there will be no humans to live there.

[@naddalena]

Witch home? They had home in gaza, totally under palestine control, and they think only about hatred. They had home and future, but unstead they changed it into illusion

[@ianpowell-palm5503]

@@delano4526Israel is not a real nation. There is only Palestine.

[@FrogLover-nh3mu]

@@ianpowell-palm5503 Where does name palestine come from? is not arabic

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

​@@ianpowell-palm5503 No country other than terrorist states regonises "palestine" as a country. "Palestine" has never been a country. Israel, however, is a country. Cry about it.

[@bjblitz2701]

It's crazy how they are both kind of right and both kind of wrong in their predictions.

[@ilanaj1629]

Despite criticism that this movie was biased against Israel, this scene is still the best depiction I have ever seen of both sides in the conflict. Literally spot on and still true to this day.

[@Billythetoaster2004]

The movie was very pro Israel.

[@Brendissimo1]

I rewatched this movie so many times in the 2000s. Really uncomfortable viewing due to the way violence is depicted in it, but a brilliant film. Might be about time for a rewatch.

[@lilybond6485]

@Brendissimo1: Same: I’ve let enough time pass so now I need a re-watch.

[@tal2290]

As a Jew living in Israel, I can agree with both positions. As ours deserves a country they too deserve! I believe in human rights first, and then the rest of things ... unfortunately this conflict does not reach an equal valley and does not seem to reach there. Once there is no room for judgment and ego to work above all I am sure we will be able to live together as two states for two peoples. Hopefully one day we will stop obeying the government of both sides and decide together, in harmony and empathy to live together first as human beings and then as a people for an independent state.

[@ernestoescobar1967]

Not to be too judgy but what kind of Jewish group are you?

[@YY4UGUYSS416]

Has been going on for centuries and will continue for centuries.

[@ernestoescobar1967]

@Unwashed Apple the Irish, the Basque, the catalonians, and black people of America are all struggling comrades against the face of colonial oppression

[@ammar4476]

@Unwashed Apple They need also a country not only a peace. They need HOME !! When you will be ready to offer them a state then war will be ended and you will live in peace together.

[@lamusic1996]

Thank you for your thoughts. It is healing my heart.

[@tunasandwich8049]

This entire war just highlights how disgusting humanity can be People treating it as if it were a sport "You're either on my side or not" kind of mentality is really sickening The whole situation is so much more complicated than bad vs good and we're so much more focused on finding out who's good and who's evil to the point we forget the victims of this war : people who want no part of it

[@AryaKavale]

It is black and white, stop pretending to be lightskin

[@fungshui4850]

It is not complicated. A country is carrying out genocide and ethnic cleansing. But keep telling yourself that so you can put your conscience to bed and sleep at night.

[@ducknwater3016]

@@fungshui4850 Which country?

[@mishticola2678]

It’s nothing complicated to understand if you are for or against genocide. It’s nothing complicated to understand the side where 6000+ children were killed are the true victims of this war. It’s nothing complicated to understand the side blocking humanitarian aid, food and water to a certain region and bombing relentlessly there are the oppressive and the inhumane side.

[@fungshui4850]

@@ducknwater3016 I'll spell it out: i s r a e l is carrying out genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity.

[@ernestoescobar1967]

So conflicting, one side is fueled by wrath and the other is fueled by pride

[@renzeusoya5828]

More like paranoia than pride, though.

[@hafidlho7332]

both are one of the deadly sins

[@ernestoescobar1967]

@@hafidlho7332 exactly

[@diagonalelbow887]

One group wants the other to be wiped out of existence the other wants to exist without being attacked every other day.....so complicated...NOT

[@jonathanramos8517]

Your clearly one of those pro Israel Republicans 😂

[@alexcheremisin3596]

@Safwan 🤡

[@vilkristproductions6772]

Which are you talking about 😂

[@cthoniccassandra7526]

Damn, this conversation keeps circling and circling through the decades. I want to say though, as someone who hasn't seen this movie in full, the scene is interesting because of one particular thing that Spielberg put in here: the Jewish man said, "You can't take back a country you never had." But a moment later he says, "You'll never get the land back." And then, "Do you really miss your father's olive trees? Do you honestly think you have to get back all that?" This is a huge implication that the land _was_ theirs, and was forcefully annexed. Pretty fucking ballsy for Spielberg to have in his movie. I'm stunned, but that's why he's a master storyteller; he gut punches you with a narrative about people he is told to pretend don't exist.

[@deagle2yadome696]

rare insightful YT comment

[@gatotsu2501]

Palestinian Arabs **lived on** land that became Israel (and some still do), but there was never a nation of Palestine or Palestinian self-government: before the Israelis and the British the land was controlled by the Ottoman Empire, and before that the Romans. The Ottomans legally permitted mass immigration and land sales to Jews, btw, which was met with violent rejection by Arabs which escalated the conflict that led to the Nakba after the Arab League rejected the UN partition plan and declared a war of elimination on what was about to become Israel. That’s what is meant by saying Palestinians “never had” the land, even if they lived on it. Politically speaking they never did, they were allowed to move and live there by the Ottomans while Jewish return was restricted for much of history.

[@peter6914]

I feel Munich is Spielberg's most thematically profound film, I've had allot of issues with his more mature pictures from Schindlers List, Saving Private Ryan, Bridge Of Spies and Amistad. While good pictures they're often simplistically packaged in a box of sentimentalism and tied up with a nice bow, never leaving room for the audience to contemplate the themes. However Munich is at least thought provoking in its philosophy as evident in powerful scenes such as this which are as relevant now as they ever have been.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

lol what? His more mature movies are fantastic and are FAR from"simplistically packaged" in ANY way, Schindler's list tells and showcases the evils of the holocaust and the worst that humanity can do against one another and the movie is FAR from "simple" is showing these real life events. Saving Private Ryan tells ONE part of a fictionalized story of a MASSIVE war in world history and whether or not an entire group of soldiers is worth saving one guy, and this was FAR from "simple" either or "tied up with a nice bow" in ANY way as these movies leave ALOT for the audience to think about entirely for contemplation for it's complex nature of it's real world political backdrop. What you're saying about these films are entirely massively unfounded and NOT at all true and your "issues" with them are NOT valid at all for you to be saying this because they do NOT have any of the issues that which you badly say here in the slightest.

[@peter6914]

⁠​⁠@@Gadget-Walkmen Schindlers List takes a horror like the Holocaust and reduces it to a sentimental success story I highly recommend directors Stanley Kubrick and Paul Verohoevens critique on the film to understand my stance. SPR; outside of the first 30 minutes is quite dull, redundant and thoroughly old fashioned, it’s a generic war film that reduces WW2 to American jingoism. The good guys are good and the bad guys are bad nothing new. It’s not the best War film ever made as some claim, let alone of the 90’s heck it wasn’t even the best American war film of 1998. Munich works because of how morally ambiguous the film is, which exactly why it’s so relevant now, unlike the other two films which spoon feed you it’s themes Munich actually makes you think.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

​@@peter6914 (Part 1) Absolutely NOTHING you've said here about Schindler's List OR Saving Private Ryan is AT ALL true in the slightest. Nothing about the Schindler's List is a "seNtImeNTaL SuCcEsS sTory" lol "sUcCesS stORy"? Do you even HEAR yourself here? The whole movie's plot is based on a REAL series of events that actually happened of the hopefulness of seeing someone save human lives in a massive scale in the biggest holocaust in human history and somehow you BADLY believe that Steven Spielberg was trying to make that into a "sEntImeNTaL sUcCesS stORy" on his own when the ENTIRE true story of the event WAS heart-breaking and tear-jerking on it's own? LOL Like I said, Do you even HEAR yourself? You have NO idea on what you're talking about as Schindler's List isn't a "sUcCeSs StORy" AT ALL, it's a massively dark and depressing story that's still hopeful of TRUH events that happened in one of the most evil times in human history, you fail to notice that in the most basic way. The whole movie masterfully portrays the holocaust as nothing but pure evil in a super serious setting as the holocaust is nothing BUT pure horror throughout while showing a real life humanitarian effort to stop it all, the fact you failed to see that is just troubling. Oh Yes, I've listened to both Stanley Kurbrick AND Paul Verohoevens "crItIquE" and they're BOTH wrong about it just like you are right now with your "stance". Nice job, but you're just like they are. Schindler's List is literally taught in schools around the world to showcase to students on the seriousness OF the holocaust in a movie from how highly mature the movie. The movie is regraded as one of the GREATEST example of how to do Holocaust as it get as it's the best holocaust movie period on how seriously it handle's it's subject manner. The fact that you see the true dark brutal but humanitarian story of Oskar that's displayed in the movie and SOMEHOW say it's a "sUcCesS StOrY" shows you wrong in what you're saying here and you don't know what you're saying here. You're just saying nonsense here while being immensely wrong, seriously. And WOW! I actually laughed out loud HARD when I read what you said about Saving Private Ryan because I couldn't believe on how bad you have to be to say this as you're just massively wrong here on EVERY account. Saving Private Ryan is the furthest from "dUlL, ReDuNdANT, aND tHOrOuGHLy oLD faNsHIonEd" in the slightest, just LOL where do you come from to say garbage like this? Do you even hear yourself here? It's one of the most exciting thrilling movies to date with full of lively distinct characters that are all unique from one another that you remember and care for throughout the film. Absolutely NOTHING about it is "dUlL" or "tHorOuGHLY oLd faNsHiOnEd" as it's all fresh and well executed for the film with a major them of value in it's center core of the film OUTSIDE the first 30 minutes. It's the FURTHEST thing from a "GeNerIC fiLM", lol where do you even get that nonsense from?, and to say that it "rEduNdANt" is as bad as bad can gets as you're just saying something as terrible as that for the sake of it as NOTHING about the movie is "rEduNdAnT" at all in the film, it's a wholly unique war film for the time and still is masterfully remarkable. "it’s a generic war film that reduces WW2 to American jingoism." LOL Great job at losing ALL credibility here onto providing proof that you don't know what you're saying at all, absolutely NOTHING about the movie is "geNerIc" in the slightest as the plot was incredibly unique for the time and still is. LOL Where do you even come off from saying nonsense like this, like really? For you to believe anything about WW2 in that movie was "rEduCes tO aMerICaN JinGOiSM" shows you have NO idea on what you're talking about here AT ALL here as at NO point is blind patriotism to america is EVERY present to the film, the movie is about the value of the soldiers themselves as it's centrally about their lives and the struggles they had to face AS soldiers in the film, NOT to america. At NO point is the movie showing any kind of "extreme "JinGoIsM" that you badly say here, you JUST bad that garbage up just to complain over nothing about, nice work at failing there. As I said, it's like your TRYING to make yourself look bad and worse every time you say anything here because my god you couldn't be anymore wrong here nonstop. "The good guys are good and the bad guys are bad nothing new." It's shocking on how misguided and wrong you are here nonstop. Showing the complex nature of both sides is NOT the point of the movie at all, nor should it EVER be. It's a movie about fighting the Nazis, obviously the bad guys are bad, no duh as the nazis should not be portrayed as nothing but. And the good guys were not consistently portrayed as good people as the american soldiers shot Czech soldiers who were forced to fight for the german side, despite the fact that the Czech where surrounding. You also had a american soldier kill young german solider who was just a kid. The good guys were NOT always just being "good" all the time. Something you fail to notice badly right now. People have gone in length talking about the high quality OF the film in detail of it's historic value, literally watch History Buffs Video on the movie of Saving Private Ryan to understand this. It's like your TRYING to make yourself look bad and worse every time you say anything here because my god you couldn't be anymore wrong here nonstop as the movie is NOTHING that which you've said here after the 30 min mark, as it's consistently thrilling, intense, heartfelt, emotional, brutal, and tragic in ALL of the best ways that NO ONE has saw coming in a way film before. But you fail to realize that with how wrong and terrible your tryhard comments are right now against these masterful films because they're NOTHING that which you say here, nice going. "It’s not the best War film ever made as some claim," Saving Private Ryan is EASILY one of the best war movies ever made, easily. They repeatedly say it because it's true and how much it's stood the test of time 20 years later and STILL being praised to this day! You just massively fail to notice it's high quality of the movie with your ridiculously terrible statements here. Great job at being all alone with this. "let alone of the 90’s" Yes it was, lol do you even hear yourself? It's the BEST war film in the 90s entirely so as it outclassed them all from how it's still talked about, praised, and loved to this day. " heck it wasn’t even the best American war film of 1998." Whatever you think it is, it's NOT anything BUT Saving Private Ryan. You just fail to understand the film and what's it's actually trying to do.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@peter6914 (Part 2) "Munich works because of how morally ambiguous the film is, which exactly why it’s so relevant now," No, Munich works because it's writing out a highly complex situation and scenario that has no right or wrong answers to it which is JUST in real life which the real life politics of the movie is based on , unlike WW2 where the nazis and the holocaust are overwhelmingly evil in every way. It's ONLY black and white with the nazis only. Munich is "so relevant now" because the problems in the middle east hasn't gone away at all as Israel and Palenstine are STILL fighting each other just like they have had for over a hundred years BEFORE WW2 even started, unlike the third reich which crashed and burned down as soon as germany lost the war and nazis are just left to be hateful edgelord groups of skinheads sharpening knives to make themselves look tough. There's a BIG difference between these films have incredibly different context material and context matters MASSIVELY. Something you fail to notice by ALOT. "unlike the other two films which spoon feed you it’s themes Munich actually makes you think." Again, Imagine being THIS wrong here nonstop. There is no "unlIkE tHe OTHEr twO fIlMS" AT ALL here as Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List are both MASSIVELY praised and talked about this this day as phenomenal films about war and another one about the horrors of the past that needs to be taught, it's not anyone's fault other than your own for not seeing this. You FAIL to understand context here in the most basic way possible for you to say something this obviously nonsensical. There is no "amBigUgOuS" to fighting Nazis in WW2 and the atrocities they have done in that war. And you don't need "ambiguous" AT ALL for any movie to be of high quality, you just need complexity and nuance which BOTH of Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan BOTH has in their own way of displaying the complex emotions of Oskar Schindler as a guy who didn't care that jews were getting persecuted to being one of the greatest humanitarians in human history during WW2 and to display the struggles and hardships of being a soldier in a team and to question if one life is worth saving over a group full of others in Saving Private Ryan, which these movies are PRAISED for when they handled these kinds of topics right here as they're not to be taken lightly at all. You truly have NO idea on what you're talking about here AT ALL as you're immensely wrong on BOTH accounts on those films based on what you're saying here. You're the ONLY person I've ever seen whose been this dense enough to say this many terrible statements about Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List as they're NOTHING that which you say here in the slightest at all. You just fail to understand context massively here on both films.

[@BartolomeoColleoni94]

@@Gadget-Walkmen inspector Phil Gadget - with a long neurotic response like that you have to be a jude . Take your meds ok ?

[@tolicoenciclopedia9696]

That was an awesome scene. Man to man, and is as if Eric Bana's character understood something after that conversation.

[@delano4526]

It simply wasn’t true unfortunately, even now people who support the terrorists and the Jew genocide try to have charismatic speeches and people praise them, they are evil.

[@muntariousthaborian1309]

Did he say ' all planet unsafe for Jews ' ??? But not in India 5000 years of legacy with Israel and they are , they would be safe in India -

[@ginzou7847]

cant even keep your women and north east people safe...talk about jews..pufffff

[@jenimarai1906]

@@ginzou7847 You mean to Say only NORTH India Is India?? Have u Ever Heard of North Himalayan states, west India, South India.. BTW I'm Also From Sikkim, And being Calling Other Indians as Black Dark Dog Indians, Not Paying INCOME TAX, No GDP, 90% deficit Beggar state, Have u ever Entered Other State of India?? Don't say that ur Megahalya dimwit with Crying Holy Holy.. But No Idea of anything.

[@ginzou7847]

@@jenimarai1906 call whoever whatever you want,, im stating the fact that we Northeast people were treated as outsiders and were called Chinkies and migrators from China and other SE Asia and im saying that mainland India should focus on its people rather than others..Also, yes, i have visited India since im an Indian and do you know, N.E ia not just Mizoram or Meghlaya or Nagaland? and for your information,read newspapers and see who gets molested or killed just because of our different cultures and traditions? yes, northeastern...finally, if you dont share the same sentiment, you prolly a half bred or just illiterate who dont know whats going on inside the country

[@jenimarai1906]

@@ginzou7847 If we Count the Number of Incidents of Hatred Attacks on name of Nontribal, Not from this States from each state of NE ,Eg :- Meghalaya People like u Call DKHAR look Down upon ASSAMESE, SIKKIMESE..Leave Biharis.. it will 10× more than SPORADIC Cases involved in North Indian coz of Uneducated twits.. At least those Uneducated People of North India without knowing do, coz lack of Knowledge or Educational.. But In NE, we know it then we do... Which makes us more Heinous than them too.

[@jenimarai1906]

@@ginzou7847 Lol, Ur LOGIC Labelling ME as HALF BREED? Illiterate? Just Coz I don't share sentiments? Coz I have Difference Of Opinion then I guess U will have same Problem with SIKKIMESE, ASSAMESE, ARUNACHALEE, TIPRASA, MANIPURIS too... Coz We Know Who are the Trouble Makers of NE either Khasi, Garos, Jaintias, OR NAGAS, MIZOS.. for sure..

[@TerrenceAybar]

That this movie isn't available on Blu-Ray as I write this is a damn shame.

[@TerrenceAybar]

Terrence Aybar I own it now! Very pleased.

[@scottwilliam3470]

Yea its on blu ray

[@savant7288]

Just downloaded it from a Torrent for free.

[@RedStarRogue]

This film was the first reference I ever heard of the Red Army Faction (which Eric Bana is pretending to be a member of here). Only recently when I finally watched The Baader-Meinhof Complex did I know what they were about. Craz-a and brutal part of West-German history...

[@nevoh4940]

Home is everything, that's why we fight to defend it!

[@Patrick_919]

Pretty spot on for the current events right now

[@human_rights0]

“home is everything"

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

2 peoples looking for a home, both thinking the other is responsible for the hardships they endure, both unwilling to find compromise, in the end they kill eachother for the same dream.

[@abunasermd.tawhidanwar4057]

Yes...Very sad reality of the world....

[@theonionboi]

One was from Germany who caused this all, how was it the other sides fault?

[@sincereagape9876]

Great scene. One of my favorites of all time.

[@YichengLi]

You couldn't even make this movie today.

[@lukeGGlee]

That guy looks like he could play Ted Bundy

[@sundancetitan5675]

I love this film because it doesn’t just talk about Israel or doesn’t just talk about Palestine it shows you both sides and how this isn’t as black and white as people nowadays tend to view things

[@earthlingavian1132]

This palestinian guy looks like ted bundy. 😂

[@bigtittybo1449]

Yeah he does.. Arab bundy

[@benschaeffer8102]

Munich is one of Spielberg's BEST films. This scene is GRIPPING because it's today's REALITY.

[@robertk2007]

interesting, they both are right.

[@maurodriguesxr]

That's the point of the discussion. That's why this issue is so complicated.

[@ethanfarber8201]

+robertk2007 No, they aren't. Whenever the Israeli guy makes an uncounterable point - you people had nothing, have nothing, are not even a real people - the Arab guy just says, "You're a Jew." This is an accurate reflection of the conflict and why it is unsolveable.

[@ethanfarber8201]

***** Fakistinians are real people from a fake country used as pawns by other Arabs.

[@richardvonhohenleben3143]

@Degree7 There is no lawfully existent state called Palestine. The only thing officially palestinian is the Palestinian Authority which doesn't even control the country since there are many parties that are in direct conflict with each other. Aside from that far right jewish settlers have build their homes directly into "Palestine". Which kind of state can exist under those circumstances?

[@DanielMazahreh]

@@maurodriguesxr No, the issue IS NOT complicated. Israel is the oppressor. Palestinians are the oppressed. It IS NOT an open playing field.

[@adityahadiseputra2714]

"Home is everything"

[@friedrichjunzt]

Just updating: nothing changed in the year 2023, moving on.

[@Jay_B1azin]

50 years later still just as relevant

[@echelon2k8]

Entitled people blaming others for their own problems never ends well.

[@Ma1l]

Dumas ?

[@FardeenKhan-co3md]

Israel?

[@randomuser3853]

Nakba (1948)???

[@jergran69]

My mother is pretty far-right Republican pro Israel all the way but even she acknowledged seeing the Palestinian point of view and somewhat understanding

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

That’s how you know she smart, she’s bel to hear others point of view.

[@Billythetoaster2004]

If you do not mind me asking, what was her religious denomination? and did it affect her stance on Palestine?

[@jergran69]

@@Billythetoaster2004 she is a lifelong Christian who doesn't think very much about the Palestinians and nothing but reverence for the state of Israel. Although lately she's been open to the plight of the Palestinians

[@alitaimoor1482]

Eric Roth has always been a damn good screenwriter.

[@caseclosed9342]

2:00 When he says, “look how well that worked out” I wonder if he’s referring to the N*zis or he’s referring to Germany not being a united country (because there was an East and West Germany at that time)…

[@deagle2yadome696]

both

[@SIGNOR-G]

And even than its weird cause the Third Reich ended only because of the american and russian bombs.

[@josepharte]

You can disagree with the Palestinian all you want, but if you really want a summary of what it means to be a Palestinian, watch 2:00 onward.

[@alexcheremisin3596]

Don't forget to watch the beginning of the film when their women cry because the news said the hostages survived at first. Death cult society is what they are

[@CryptocurrencyInsider]

Palestinans are from Egypt and Jordan. They have a home there.

[@uchiwamadara4614]

@@CryptocurrencyInsider just like the jewish from israel are european, they have home there to

[@j86485]

@@CryptocurrencyInsider Palestinians have lived there since the times of Canaan. Scientifically, Palestinian DNA is linked to Canaanites but the Israeli Jews have 80-90% of European DNA so they have more European DNA in them than Jewish DNA due to migration. So how they claim the right to live there if they have about 10-20% of Jewish DNA and Palestinians have 90-100% of Canaanite DNA. No one said Palestine was a country but the people there had always lived in that land as they are indigenous

[@johnbaker1773]

This is such a simple fact that somehow is constantly glossed over

[@Tyler30ish]

"It will take a hundred years, but we'll win."

[@uncleambient]

LOL !!

[@geordiejones5618]

Damascaus or Beiruit will be a crater before "palestine" exists.

[@Vindix007]

Almost 50 years later and they still didn't win...lol.

[@michaelhuntington8439]

it's been a 100 years and the conclusion is still in doubt.I regard the conflict as beginning with the russian revolution and the combatants are all of us

[@ave1208]

LoL "in 100 years we'll win". The fact is that, as the "Palestinian" said at the beginning, now more than ever - the entire Arab world hates the Palestinians, they are stuck like a bone in the Arab world's through. Saudi Arabia and other reasonable countries are keen to have diplomatic relations with Israel and they already spoke about it openly. Their media hates the Palestinians more than ever. There are Saudi journalists who went to Israel and they loved it, they got respect from the Israelis while the "Palestinians" in Israel (with Israeli citizenship) almost killed the poor Saudi guy. So, looks like in 40 years the arab world hates the fraud Palestinians more than ever. The world is tired from this victimization story, look what the Jews achieved in 70 years, they are a Tech super power, cyber nation, and the 2nd place after Silicon Valley. Their tech is improving the world, and if you want to boycott Israel you'd better move to Alaska or to a cave because Israeli Tech is in all of your products and gadgets. so good luck with it.

[@human_rights0]

1:10 what a reply!

[@breed4659]

About 5 mins later homeboy get mowed down in the middle of the street.

[@Billythetoaster2004]

Pretty realistic tbf

[@DIOPSIDE7995]

this is one of the best written scenes in history

[@danghoangluong2942]

"home is EVERYTHING" - a guy who never had a house

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

What the hell do you think homeless people yearn for, backpacking travel.

[@razinghavoc7419]

Ah yes homeless people want airplanes and spaceships. No they want HOMES. U off ur head or smth😂

[@endxofxeternity]

“But then the world will see how they’ve made us into animals, they’ll start to ask questions about the conditions in our cages” I get it now… about the cages. The loss of home, the lack of dignity brought upon a whole people. As long as I live, I will never forget this feeling. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@someonefromsomewhere6650]

They are no good guys in this war, stop picking sides,

[@ammarnk9260]

​@@someonefromsomewhere6650nice propaganda but we all know that Palestinians are the good People here.

[@shevthegreb757]

@@ammarnk9260They aren’t. I shouldn’t say all of them aren’t, but they aren’t good. When every other Arab country let Palestinians come into their country, they tried to overthrow them.

[@zaidahmed2220]

Source: youtube commenter named shevthegreb

[@josefmengele181]

​@@someonefromsomewhere6650109 nations the tiny hats have been kicked out of

[@abramswee]

Speaking as a descendant of Chinese diaspora that had crossed multiple countries and seas, home is where you make it.

[@RJ-se9op]

has your family been relatively recently been dispossessed and subjugated in such a way? your home taken by a blue eyed white man larping as a middle easterner because his book tells him so?

[@meatrealwishes]

I agree. I grew up in middle east and the best day of my life was when I left it. But the place does a history of tribes always winning even without a fight.

[@michaelhuntington8439]

where is the scene when rival factions got booked into the same safehouse same evening and they decide to coexist for that evening but can't agree on the radio station and there is a back and forth changing of the dial until they settle on al green i believe it was

[@amoghthorave3385]

Yeah it's the scene previous to this one. I think Speilberg subtly wanted show us the solution. Which is resolution through peace and talks.

[@stocktonthompson]

Spielberg is a great director. He never presents simple answers on complex issues. However, Spielberg shows us a member of Fatah who admits beeing a nationalist and hence an anti-marxist who doesn’t differentiate between Jews and Zionists. I think, Spielberg shows us his own understanding of history which is far away from reality.

[@vilkristproductions6772]

Well tbf he also shows the israeli as a jingoistic nationalist who comes to be disillusioned by the murder committed by his own government so

[@deagle2yadome696]

@@vilkristproductions6772in real life none of them were burdened by it at all, it was an artistic liberty spielberg took to make the movie

[@BartolomeoColleoni94]

@@deagle2yadome696 Jews being burdened by murder ? Lol as if .

[@gatotsu2501]

lmao Fatah was never a Marxist group and even the Marxist Palestinian militias are unabashedly nationalist and allied with reactionary nationalists. And spoiler alert, the Arab world generally only makes a big deal about distinguishing Jews from “Zionists” (Jews who don’t think Israel should be destroyed, which is the majority of them) when they have an international audience who consider it taboo to openly say “I want to kill Jews”. They certainly didn’t make the distinction when 95% of Jews were ethnically cleansed from Arab and Muslim countries as collective punishment for Israel’s foundation. So instead you get “I want to kill **Zionists**, who control the banks and the media” and Western Marxists all smile and nod like lemmings as white supremacists and Islamists both line up behind them hopping with excitement.

[@mr3pac]

Omar Metwally is outstanding in this film. Bravo!

[@panama-canada]

Damn, nothing changed.

[@anar24]

"we have a place on Earth"

[@diushikaola]

Crazy to think this film was 13 years old and the state in the middle-east now.

[@stevenwall2010]

*state of the Middle East for decades

[@diushikaola]

@@stevenwall2010 im saying it's just worse now but thanks

[@UnmaskedArtist101]

​@@stevenwall2010 America invasion of Iraq that led to destabilising the Middle east, check. Britain givea land that doesn't belong to them to European jews who ran from a German psycho that put them in ovens, causing a conflict that will continue for decades, check. Christians from western Europe launching a series of eight major invasions called Crusade against the Middle East, check. Should I go on? U see now whos is the reason behind all that shit? I mean after all we didn't kill 56 million of indigenous native Americans nor dropped nuclear bombs on Japan or killed millions of Africans. I mean just 60 years ago u used to have black people as a slaves, so yeah Middle Easterns and Arabs are the bad guys.

[@matiaspereira9382]

I can't believe the movie was directed by the same person who directed E.T., Jaws, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind, The Terminal, Tintin, etc. I admit I did notice several Spielberg trademarks but I still can't believe it

[@abunasermd.tawhidanwar4057]

Stephen Spielberg, one of the best movie director of the World...He knows how to moke epic movies....

[@aslan_kz_97]

Steven* to make*

[@tinkerbella7433]

Its scary how this movie could literally predict the future and sad to see how long this has has been the reality and obvious for Palestinians.

[@zsl1256]

No predicting, this could’ve been any day since 1967, and I say 1967 only because they mentioned that year. In truth, this is the heart of conflict since 1948 at least, if not even before.

[@tommytells370]

@@zsl1256I think he meant predicting as in one day the world will see how they’re being treated. And nowadays the whole world can see that Israel literally traps Palestinians in a blocked off enclosure that effectively treats them like animals in a zoo. They Can’t walk, can’t fly, can’t swim can’t even dig out of their borders otherwise they’ll be shot by the IDF

[@evle2417]

This movie talk about the past, in which this case the present and probably the future

[@Vonhia181]

In my top ten movies. Gladiator, Ben Hurr and El Cid vie for number one spot, but Munich is in the top ten for sure.

[@josefmengele181]

Platoon Is better

[@jc.eh.123]

A never ending loop

[@BlondeManNoName]

The movie is called Munich. Another great one from Spielberg, although it's dark and sad.

[@bbkr26]

this aged well after the abraham accords...

[@bbkr26]

@Younes Shatat 😅😅😅. Sure, dude. Whatever you say.

[@SomeoneSomewhere-el3cl]

@@bbkr26 the people despise israel still though, especially jordanians

[@aircraft2]

My people didn't have a home for centuries. We were absorbed by Russia during their imperialist expansion and then again by the USSR. But terrorism will NEVER get you anywhere, and look where it has led. If you want to have the world's support, not committing atrocities would be a good start.

[@hibabelmezouar2880]

Jews lived in Palestine peacefully and Palestinians welcomed them with open arms but in stand they choose to be Zionist and try to build a country where Palestine already existed

[@munax-pd9tu]

What terrorism? Tell that to the jews

[@michal31131]

​​@@hibabelmezouar2880 Easily disproven with a simple google search

[@_.belladonna_]

​isreal literally created hamas against the PLO, you just reap what you sow.@@munax-pd9tu

[@daneyal7162]

When your hatred overcomes your common sense...you deserve no state.

[@evanthompson7494]

I didn't hear much hatred in this man's voice.

[@nadine7293]

Yes Israel doesn't deserve a state after 75 years of brutal occupation they deserve nothing

[@alaaalmahdi4781]

That stupid argument of "You are Arabs, there are many countries for you to live in."! NO it's not like that! We're arabic speaking countries that were arabized with time. Still, in reality, we existed in our countries long long before Arabs came from the Arabic peninsula and conquered the current arab countries during the Islamic conquest. That's why each country speaks its own dialect of Arabic which is a mix of Arabic and our native old languages.

[@sheadoherty7434]

Not to mention Palestinians have made themselves unwelcome guests in the local arabic countries

[@danghoangluong2942]

You are not Arabized natives. You Arab migrants. A lot of "Palestinians" are immigrants from Egypt, Syria and Jordan in late 19th century. Bunch of Gazans have their last name as Al-Masri, including the recent dead guy, Mohammed Deif. Jews are Europeanized (ashkenazi), Arabized( sephardic and Mizrahi) natives. Palestinians are Arab migrants came during Muslim Conquest.

[@alaaalmahdi4781]

@@danghoangluong2942 haha let's assume that everything you said is right (it's not!) it does't give you the right to kick people out of thier land that they lived in it. even those "Egyptian migrants from the 19th century" . you can't fucking normalize that! and jews during arab existnace were living in palestine. living all togather with others. but what you did is you came and ethnically cleansed the whole land. that's ISIS mentality. and it's crazy how most of wetern countries are lining by your side. and no dude palestine wasn't empty so immigrants can just fill it. Also I wanna remind you that so many jews and christians converted to islam when arabs came 1300 years ago and decided to live under the arabian rule. so don't tell me that people who lived there are not natives.

[@Billythetoaster2004]

@@danghoangluong2942There were Arabs in the region long before Islam, even the Romans relied on Arabs, they relied on Arabs so much that several Arabs became emperors of Rome and one even seceded from Rome, and even long before that, I am Egyptian and many Egyptians regardless of religion are not fully ethnically Arab but rather culturally so saying we are migrants is incorrect, some of us are arabized others are Arabs who are native to said regions such as the Levant. The argument for Palestinians to just move to other Arab countries can be countered simply stating, would be fair for Englishmen to give up England for Circassians for example and move to another Anglo country?

[@ElTuco84]

"Home is everything" you could say the same for the people from Tibet, but they aren't killing innocent chinese people. I sympathize with their sentiment, but violence is not the solution.

[@anonamouse1957]

Art Trivia and yet Tibet remains under Chinese rule. If there’s anything worth spilling blood for it’s your home. Borders are beautiful. Nationalism is natural. Violence will always be vile.

[@vader4200]

If u are talking about Palestinians being violent then u should know how many of their children died and how the Israeli government is trying to prohibit the Muslim prayer and currently they are trying to shut down any school that teaches arabic

[@gfoot9916]

Vader That’s not true. Plenty of schools in Haifa that teach Arabic.

[@vader4200]

gfoot99 it is and having some schools still teaching arabic doesn't oppose the fact that some of them were shut

[@gfoot9916]

Vader I could only find one link that says that a school in East Jerusalem was shut down because of its affiliation with Hamas. That’s all. Could you find an article which states the info you’re claiming?

[@bioknock]

Home is everything!

[@zeonmx]

That Palestinian is right. He said the world will question how they made Palestinians into desperate people. This is the very reason why there are rapid growing number of Palestine sympathizers in Europe and East Asia as of today and seen Israel as oppressors.

[@ColdWarriorGamer]

The only people that seriously support Palestinians are either Muslims or Arabs themselves or Liberals.

[@zeonmx]

Guynumber7 This is where you are wrong, typical right winger. Almost half of the world supports the free state of Palestine.

[@ColdWarriorGamer]

And none of those nations matter.

[@zeonmx]

Guynumber7 they do, I'm afraid.

[@shiz777]

The one thing most arabs don't get is that morals, tenacity and identity don't matter. The world runs on power and money. It runs on influence. Russia and China support Palestine for political purposes, no other. Same with India and Iran. And I'm from the middle east.

[@peter6914]

“That’s why you European reds don’t get it, you say it’s nothing, but you have a home to come back to. ETA, ANC, IRA, We all pretend we care about you international revolution,but we don’t care. To us home is everything.” Couldn’t think of a more profound criticism of the Western left.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

The Western left? D'identità look what are the bigger parties supporting Israel

[@gatotsu2501]

Tony Kushner is pretty perceptive there lol

[@Gentledudy]

Home is where the heart is. If your family moves to Uganda, Uganda is your new home. Family is everything!

[@r824077]

well one thing is for your famly to move and another is for your family to be forced to move ...

[@JackTenrec-qk4zp]

people are forced to move all the time so what ?@@r824077

[@skip1383]

@@r824077 Ever heard of an eviction? Shit happens in first-world countries too. Suck it up. Almost noone except the exceptionally old in Gaza were alive when Israel was created. They have not lost their home because they never lived in the old Palestine.

[@Harrypotterfan334]

@@r824077 except they aren’t being forced to move. Arab countries in 48 told them to leave and come back when all the jews were dead. Learn history.

[@Gentledudy]

@@r824077 ?

[@Osaroomorodion]

I am not from the Middle East but i think it's impossible for you to understand the conflict because USA was originally occupied by the native Americans before European settlers took a land that didn't belong to them but unlike the Arab and Israeli conflict the Americans killed a majority of the red indians and that's a fact.

[@zyriankobani6930]

Not stolen - C O N Q U E R E D 🇺🇸

[@alexcheremisin3596]

Manifest destiny my dude. Better make way for progress

[@ernestoescobar1967]

Ik I mean remember how India got split up

[@urgandma]

Which basically is proving that there is no 2 state solution. America effectively wiped out the native Americans, they are such an irrelevant population in America in every category. They have few numbers, they don't dominate in any industry, they don't own anything, they aren't the smartest (don't create new industry or innovate technologically), etc. So America gives them free land and leaves them alone, knowing they are not a problem. Now imagine there were like 100 million natives still alive, and they felt that whites and other groups were occupying them illegally? Yeah, that's not happening, there will be constant war. Now you best believe that if Israel could do whatever they wanted without fear of international reprisal, they'd wipe out most of the Palestinians or kicked them out to some other Arab nation by force, but they can't. So they're forced to deal with an enemy population who hates them. Kinda the same way the natives would constantly attack and raid Americans. 2 groups of people occupying a land, neither one backing down, recipe for disaster.

[@bluemarlin8138]

Disease killed the vast majority of the Indians.

[@robertoacevedo3805]

Welp! This U.S./Israel relationship isn't helping itself that's for sure.

[@genericguy_]

Spreading peace since 1972