Is Shroud's Mouse a rip off in 2024?

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Shroud & Logitech partnered up to create a gaming mouse for SHROUD specifically, but can people who aren't Shroud use it? I tried using this mouse even without being Shroud to see if it was actually a good mouse.
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[@danwy]

pin or you have to use g502 for the rest of your life

[@m1l22]

That’s cruel

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

dayum he got me

[@in027754]

He admits indirectly that he likes to use the G502. (which is technically heavier than avg human)

[@in027754]

Oh he pinned that... So, no one likes to use G502 then??

[@leehongjin6884]

@@m1l22 Just get stronger bruh. Lift them weights!

[@DaSlowMotionPimpSlap]

I love your vids bro, your style is very unique and I can tell you put alot of effort into these vids just from the editing. They have an amazing feel, keep up the good work man I would be really sad if u ever stopped.

[@ComradePark]

I got one for around 70-80 USD on sale. It's got amazing build quality and the shape fits my grip very well. I don't mind the slightly heavier weight, since when I play with it, it doesn't feel particularly heavy. The clicks feel pretty good thanks to the tight tensioning. Overall, I think it's a great mouse if you can afford it, and it fits your grip. I think the dealbreaker for most would be its shape and price. I think it's a bummer it's got a bit of a Shroud tax, but I'd personally pay for it since the mouse fits my grip better than any other mice I've tried.

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

I don't think it's a Shroud tax. The price is inline with the other "flagship" mice from Logitech. I think it's more on them if anything.

[@BlackDT]

Tried this mouse. Wasn’t for me, but it also had an issue where when I lifted it and then put it back down I could feel and hear something like a spring vibrating. This wasn’t me slamming it hard or anything, this was just me putting the mouse down as I aimed. Probably an isolated thing but it definitely wasn’t good.

[@SuLu_B]

I've been using this mouse since it's release as my main, and I've truly loved it as a claw gripper! I felt like my aim 1000% leveled up. I just recently ordered an Atlantis Mini because I'm missing the weightless feeling I had when using a 50g mouse. Hopefully that one is my lightweight claw grip dream!

[@youway2022]

Have you tested? Are the altantis mini better?

[@SuLu_B]

@@youway2022 I prefer the Atlantis at this point and have noticed that my flicks are more effortless, and playing low sens with such a light mouse is really nice. I would recommend it but there will definitely be an adjustment period!

[@MoonLightsxID]

Can't wait the ultralightx from finalmouse "full mouse" with only 30grams of weight

[@bigbelly8649]

4 months now using this mouse and personally I love it. Def not the Capetown Final Mouse I was using but the shape and height is nice for larger hands.

[@W0JCIK]

if i like the za13, mm712 and xm1 do you think i will like this? my hands a decently large and i find the za13 WAY to small, and i find the mm712 too small too. xm1 is a good ize for my hands in a super aggressive claw. thanks nice video

[@monkeyclub2100]

I actually just got one and started maining it. I really like it. It fits my grip and hand shape really well and just generally feels good to use. Who knows tho, maybe I’ll like the xm2we better when I pick one up soon.

[@vx9330]

I don't understand the hate for Omrons- I have tried Huanos in Zowie mice and Kail 8.0s in Aira XD7 and I hated them both. And when people say 'only' 20 mill vs 80 mill, does that really matter? To me it doesn't and I will use Omrons because I prefer the quieter sound, short and fast activation and reset. And if a mouse eventually double clicks I will replace the switches because they are cheap to buy.

[@gixxerin1693]

Just wanna say your channel sparked a mice addiction for me. Have binged all ur stuff ur style is very unique. Keep it up!

[@agg42]

I mained a g Pro wired and G303. I wanted to upgrade to wireless and thought the Shroud Edition was the natural path up. The size increase didn't seem that big either. But once I had it in my hands and months of playing with it... It was way too big for me.

[@beastdud5376]

curious what your hand size is? i just ordered it and im hoping it fits for me lol

[@perdikos7633]

still playing sometimes with my g303 which i bought after watching your review in 2015. this kinda makes me wanna get the new one as well but for now i guess i will stick with the x2 till it breaks

[@MarksterC]

Edit: r/mousemarket has these for 60-80 bucks often. personally think this mouse is amazing. I swap between this and the Aria mostly cause I’m indecisive 😅 I pit black shell pink dots in it and… don’t mod it. It’s awful to open.

[@fennesto]

I'm a current user of this mouse, right after I bought a razer basilisk v3 x, I've decided to continue using my old mouse. It seems so comfortable..

[@AfroDominus]

Bought it for £70 as I collect mice and I was interested in the shape. I was constantly adjusting my grip after 2/3 days I felt pain in my hand and gave up using it. I’m back to the xm2we and viper v2 pro. Might go back to it who knows. Atm sitting in the box .

[@NoxofShadow]

i'm using this mouse for more than 1 year and it's really an amazing mouse. For those who don't really like ultra light mouses. Before, I used the G703, and i think i prefer the 303 Shroud Edition

[@roatisdavid1769]

is it nice for bigger hands?

[@jaimevelazquez5844]

Love this mouse. The shape fits my hand and the back hump is unmatched.

[@mysteryman703]

I'm realy glad I needed an opinion on the haste wireless. I think your content is the perfect balance of informative and entertaining without being cringe. Earned my sub

[@wzy_fam1018]

Can u give a review on thr hypr controller? I really wanna buy it

[@lostboy2637]

Wish the mouse was smaller, even for my 21x10cm hands its too bulky. The weight bothered me a lot mainly cause they could easily achieve 64G with a 200mah battery and without the drawer on the back. I do not suggest anyone to take apart this mouse, its so complicated it makes GPX looks like a normal design.

[@De4dSp0t]

it's pretty much set up to be a fingertip or fingertip/claw but mainly fingertip grip mouse only. We have similar size hands, mine area bit wider by about .8cm. I haven't used this mouse because there's no way in hell I would like this shapes as an ergo user. I use the DA v3, just got my model d pro a few days ago and have been using that since it's a smaller ec1. I'm really waiting for the Zowie EC1-CW and plan to then weight mode it to be lighter.

[@rajapradhan8465]

I bought the g303 at launch full price. As someone with bigger hands I just couldn't care if it is a bit heavier, and a bit average overall, for me the size and shape of the mouse is everything.

[@giraffeboog]

Completely agree as a guy with big hands, this mouse has been a dream for me. I've used all the like gpro, ducky, razer naga, basilisk, everything you can imagine and they all felt... well wrong, like I was going to snap them at any moment. If you buy this mouse with small hands and you're a palm gripper, that's you're fucking fault, like seriously, you're not very smart. This mouse is extremely niche, for people with big hands, that claw grip, and use a wrist/arm aim combination (not aiming one way or another specifically)

[@themadnes5413]

i have a g pro superlight, but with time i hated the shape more and more. It feels so slippery in my hands, ordered a g303 xshroud, i hope the shape is better for me.

[@cadmusvictory4956]

Love this mouse. Only didn’t like the side buttons being too high. Had to reach MB4. Would prefer it was 65,60g though

[@_neddy_teddy_8048]

if shape works for hand mouse good (i have some lightweight mice but I'm still using a zowie s2 divina cuz I love how sturdy it feels and the shape)

[@TrueAxeeD]

Bought at discounts for 80 euros, it seems that for such a mouse it is just a must buy. I have an og 303 but it was too small for me, the SE version is much more comfortable

[@Akela3dn]

This mouse has the best shape on the market. But alas, the weight and price kill in the bud the whole point of buying this fish. Especially against the background of yesterday's announcement of LAMZU MAYA, given that the previous mouse cost less than $100, I think this one will cost about the same. But LAMZU weighs 43 grams

[@lelunie]

Love the mouse. Wish they refreshed it with 2K polling and opti switches.

[@milkywayxd1803]

Yes omrons are not really great but this g303se have Japanese omrons what is the difference they are nicer to spam there way more responsive saying it’s a low quality is saying you love brown switches only 😅 I like huana white dots they way more responsive and better to spam but everyone use pink dots it’s what you prefer kailh 8.0 switches are great in my tenz but there shit on my gpx its what you prefer shape definitely not for everyone

[@Analytical_Thinking]

I thought only I disliked Shroud’s Thumbnails!

[@redj]

i love optical encoders on wheel in mouses

[@timbillins1848]

If this had huano blue shell pink dots and was about 20g lighter it would be the best mouse you can buy for me

[@Sebastianbaraj5]

I bought the 303 when it first released because I was in need of a new mouse and I figured why not give it a go since I have big hands myself. I did in fact pay full price and I'm still using the mouse to this day. Personally it's the best mouse I have ever used in my life. Its very comfortable for me to use plain and simple. Yeah 130$ is a lot for a mouse in my opinion but I don't like to cheap out on my tech and I know logi makes good stuff. I have replaced the skates for 3rd party skates and I've added grip all over it too since it can be a little slippery. The mouse is perfect for me and I'd happily drop another 130$ for it.

[@tehjamerz]

A grip-off, even?!

[@TheRedMarauder]

Got my shroud edition. The shape is not for a lot of gamers I could tell. The GPX is better in my experience. Also QC issues out the wazoo when I got mine. Had two replacements sent. Still had major issues. Only mouse I have had major issues with other than corsair. I really wanted to like it though. 😕

[@Rodrigo_A1]

Which QC issues bro?

[@TheRedMarauder]

@@Rodrigo_A1 Dongle wouldn't sync, after firmware updates, grinding switches as well. (Updating both the mouse, and dongle.) Got another one, grinding on the left click, and drop clicking issue. Dongle worked though.

[@emnoir]

bought it used for $50 from ebay happy as F best m1 m2 clicks i ever seen, travel distance super small. instant reponse. can click 50 times a second ( about ) :) if youre holding mouse style is laying hands weight on the mouse. this is very good solid choice. i had over 50 mouses and this one stands super high as long as it fits ur grip style

[@friendsRfor773]

omrons are super fine since they have rly low post/pre travel afaik

[@Edwardx703]

I main this mouse. I recently switched to xtryft MZ1 wireless and I enjoy that too. I think about the shroud 303. Few things people need to keep in my that it's only for claw or fingertip users only. If you are a relaxed claw type of guy then this won't work for you.

[@drizzlydr4ke]

I actually got it new for dirt cheap, $53

[@Steaky20]

Everytime he talks about his hair falling out... That hit me hard man. I can relate. I just let the hair grow out of the bottom of my head now. Fixed many issues lmao

[@fran2911]

I just want a G Pro X Ultralight with usb c

[@8020Alive]

G303 switches happen to have some of the lowest latency available. Rtings and a few other websites have extensive tests. When on sale the g303 is a phenomenal mouse. Couple things you didn't mention: The angular sides (less potato 🥔) make for a very relaxing grip. Large swipes for low dpi users are effortless. Second - the mouse wheel is NOT ribbed or bumpy. Just smooth rubber. Also relaxing for those office users scrolling web pages and productivity. I actually think this mouse thrives in non gaming use cases. USB c Relaxing to use Epic battery life

[@HoveringUmlaut]

i too remember when chris "warhuryeah" parker still had hair (and optimism)

[@tKcs2]

the g303 dae was perfect -.-

[@defu8592]

Not me just ordering one of these yesterday BRUH lolol

[@Hk7762Tube]

So you are saying, that there is a connection between your hair dumping you and G 303 S E 10 80 p release? I knew it!

[@silversilver2248]

whats the mouse at 2:48 ??? it looks rly cool :D

[@xfrankenstein6981]

lamzu atlantis mini i think

[@jsnagn3410]

mint blue lamzu atlantis

[@twpsyn]

I don't get the angular shape, when the g203 shape is right there. just make a super light version for a shroud edition or w/e

[@jamminwithmatt5313]

the comedy is my kind of comedy. subbed 👍

[@DimaYT455]

But i ask my self is it really worth it for even that price? Since you have now mices like Dermoshark M3 with top technology and under 50€? "Ah but that's Logitech" I just feel this big brands just pushing the prices up cuz of the hype because you can see that some of the "top tier" mices in a 1 year time go down to almost 40/50%

[@Benjamin-zp5ds]

bugha gaming gear is unbelievable.

[@reyhanpradantyo]

How dare you use shroud's logitech mouse without a logitech mouse pad

[@filosavage7475]

The g303 shroud is 200aud (130usd) and most mice are expensive here including pulsar lamzu and razer

[@Jeff-ps5tg]

I have this and a G305 with a lithium AAA. I always end up using the G305 and it's $100 CAD cheaper.

[@aria8928]

I thought shroud mained a superlight...

[@K4sk4d3]

Hair may have fallen out, but looks better I dare say. Reminds me of that one actor I can’t remember the name of.

[@smew0569]

I got mine for 45$ on sale so i cant complain

[@GanDtech]

I couldnt update the firmware on mine (G Hub sucks) so I ended up returning the mouse

[@ColByte]

1:11 don't worry we still care for :)

[@danreyno]

For $90? That's the price of the Pulsar X2!!!

[@jz-xd1xu]

I think the orginal shape was better. just sayin

[@OmnipotentO]

I don't even know who this shroud guy is but if it works for him then it works for him. It's his mouse afterall.

[@athan1281]

Whenever i see a g303se i think wow id like to try that, then i see the price

[@MarksterC]

Used is half the price

[@athan1281]

@@MarksterC i know

[@zDennii]

The Reason why the Price drops because nobody is buying it. :'D At first I was real interested in this type of mice but with the Weight and the Omrons are so dissapointed. And the miracle puzzle game if you want to open the mice up :D

[@themainevnt3419]

To me it’s the best mouse. You do have to know how to utilize its shape. I feel some peoples brains aren’t big enough to figure it out.

[@D0WnL0DeR]

Yes, it is a rip off. Even when it came it out/on release it was a rip off. I bought it, used it with glass skates etc.. semi OK mouse.

[@leonidaas2000]

G303 IS MY BEST MICE EVER AND IVE HAD MANY

[@reryaa]

This is the end game mouse for claw grip users. Trust me I have two of this.

[@VivaLaRazsa]

302 might be worse than the 502 shape

[@Caution40404]

To you. It's an S-tier shape for many people.

[@ohpotatoesandmolasses]

It's obnoxiously expensive but there's nothing else like it, so...

[@kyriakosgalanos8020]

if you have small hands this is the worst mouse you can get

[@DINO5551000]

Omron Switches? No thanks

[@Xoilen]

Something about the shot where you were below the desk and all you could see is your hand on the mouse is really unsettling.

[@olaeadeus1996]

i payed 42 euros so nice

[@Benni259]

g102 >

[@gluteusmaximus7608]

lmao the thumbnails are horrendous, its actually the reason i dont watch shrouds videos. love the guy though

[@Dogheadpunch]

Their pcs are also way way overpriced. Therefore garbage. Shroud got his business model from Beats by Dre.

[@Dogheadpunch]

Way overhype

[@cofffin]

Bloodborne is in fact the best game of all time.

[@JacekS406]

I just sent mine back to Amazon. Very uncomfortable mouse to use. Shroud knows how to make money but on the other hands he doesn't have a good record of making big money for the companies he works for. G303 shorud edition was a flop. Microsoft streaming service was a disaster. If I would run a big eSports company I would stay away from shroud.

[@Wyn3e]

Fun fact it's uncomfortable cuz it's not made for ur hand or grip style tah da

[@JacekS406]

@@Wyn3e fun fact it was a flop because it was made for a hand of a one guy.

[@Wyn3e]

@@JacekS406 it was not ik 8 people that got it and was fine with it

[@JacekS406]

@@Wyn3e everyone uses it at every tournament... Haha

[@njutarn8381]

too heavyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@calmsh0t]

While Shroud is a great fps player, he isn't a great aimer per se. Now before you jump at me, let me explain. Yes, he does hit crazy shots, yes he does do insane looking maneuvers ingame. But if you pay attention to it, it mostly comes down to having great movement, very good prediction and being incredibly experienced in fps games. If you watch some of his rare clips where he is playing aim trainers you can tell that his raw aim ability, looked at in isolation without outsmarting an opponent or using other mechanics such as movement, is not that great. But I know that people who are hyper focused on mice are usually also people who are very focused on their ability to aim. Mostly focussing on raw aim. Therefore, while being a great player, I don't think shroud would be the best person to recommend you a mouse... People like TenZ are a different story for example. While also being a great player, he is also an insanely good aimer and like most good aimers, very focused on his mouse, mousepad and other peripherals and settings that can boost his aim. Someone like ELiGE is also a great aimer, besides being a great player. He is even known in the Voltaic community and holds a quite impressive rank there. What does that say about the importance of raw aim? And the importance of your peripherals? I let you decide that, but I would keep such things in mind when going for peripherals that are advertised by content creators and pros.

[@Yeshayahu09]

epic

[@Gone29364]

Balls

[@Hk7762Tube]

The good old days of the mice with... well you said it.

[@lancenig]

So at $90 it's king...at $150 it's a "massive disappointment." Little drama queen over here 😂

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

$150 is the same price as the best mice around and $90 is nearly just half the price of that?

[@d2cuadrados510]

Ha-ha-hang on a minute, Diamondlobby Wrestling? Wut?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

What seems to be the problem here officer?

[@Zack-wk8bx]

mouse is trash g303 original shape is so much better

[@goochipoochie]

Tbf other than gpxs and g203 all logi mouse are trash (and even these have major downsides)

[@Zack-wk8bx]

@@goochipoochie g100s is an amazing shape ever tried?

[@lostboy2637]

@@goochipoochie their other mice released in 2015 and they haven't updated them since... people on r/mousereview beg for an updated G305, G703 etc.

[@freelancer1499]

goddam I hear u dude. Love the 303 and this shroud version is dawgshiatttt

[@yxoce7919]

I disagree I had the G703 it was a great mice. Logitech need to make a new & improved like they have with the G502. The shape is great, The side buttons are a great size & are positioned well on the mouse. Add the Logitech HERO 25k sensor and it's an all well rounded mouse. only dislike is the weight being around 96 Grams. I had the GPX & the side buttons got really mushy which at times I felt I had to press them hard to make sure they had responded. If Logitech made a new G703 I'd probably purchase it.. I've owned the DAV3 Pro for 4 or 5 months & its an exceptional mouse no complaints here at all.

[@cykablyat482]

Any1 who is actually into mice do not consider the shroud mouse.

[@Hk7762Tube]

Are you actually saying that DiamondLobby Reviews is a hack?!

[@jeffp.6349]

Everything Shroud is a ripoff. Least humble dude ever and his community made him

[@chinabonebearings7359]

mouse is ass i own it

[@joshin_]

pin or u think reddragon is best mouse

[@orosales7021]

Your reviews are always 🤌. Thank you

[@vic8610]

i doubt he knows anything about to build a mouse from the program or hardware its just his name on it and logitec juat builds his mouse for him with his brand on it and they say oh this is shroude new mouse but i doubt he had any really input on the build its just all promo to get u excited and buy it

[@obliviondust2719]

i actually like the shape a lot, Razer is just better now

[@ceasarcruz8312]

who tf is shroud?

[@blkarc]

if only keeps existed back in 2015🥲