COSTA: THE FUTURE OF ECL AND THE PF

[@MrRodge19]

Why can't PF just organize themselves in unity and put a leader through party elections and get rid of individual based politics, encourage the former president to support the new candidate As a democratic country we need the country to put government to checks and balances other than concentrating on an individual

[@mikebwanga4520]

kaya , but that can make sense

[@elvisxvesmulowa]

Honorable Lubinda you are great

[@victormusonda3126]

Honorable you know how to elaborate the law well sir. We will wait and see patiently ...

[@Mw-un8yy]

20:30 in the 3 previous cases ECL was president and weaponised the same court

[@mikebwanga4520]

that means that court has no spine, it is influenced by politicians

[@BupeBwalya-p6z]

Lubinda's argument is making a lot of sense

[@phillipmwamba741]

What is that argument 😂😂😂 didn't ECL held or sworn in twice?

[@davidlungu5215]

So then how was he ELIGIBLE in 2021 and what would have happened IF he had won 2921 elections

[@YeboLubutoChulu]

@@phillipmwamba741 you and I agree, sir, that it's far more complex than that.

[@phillipmwamba741]

@@YeboLubutoChulu no, I do not agree with you and it's not complex. Lubinda abused justice system when he was justice minister under PF. He is the one who influenced 3 concourt ruling in favour of ECL, and also wanted to amend some laws in our constitution to suit his political ambitions. Please do not believe what he says, he is the cause of all this debate on ECL eligibility

[@bwalyaleonard]

Mr lubinda you are brilliant

[@bobobobo8507]

Mr Linda kindly stand on PF

[@phillipmwamba741]

😂😂😂 yama, read the constitution on the qualifications for presidency?

[@josephsitali2807]

Lubinda does not qualify to be Zambian president according to the constitution

[@Hannah-jk3dk]

He could but as usual looking hypocritically at one man

[@NkhataGivenjay]

This man is vested with wisdom I mean these are big machines ❤

[@muchindumusowe]

I wish Given Lubinda was a lawyer not a junk that he is! He has proved to be headless and dull to say the least!

[@innocentmalambo8556]

They indicated the reasons for the change in judgement.

[@KasongoNkole]

Given Lubenda is always misleading in terms of the way he comes out remember the issues of Bill 10,the issue of Mps who over stayed in office and now supporting what he himself knows very well that the constitution which ashard ECL into office was the 1991 constitution which states that twice elected and twice sworn in that's all now why does he want the court to decide that ECL is eligible based on the constitution which he signed after becoming president ?

[@HilaryMeleki]

This man Lubinda has never in his life defended the Zambian constitution, was he not one of the minister who deliberately chose to break the law by staying in office when cabinet was dissolved? He should be the last one to complain.

[@peterpapushi]

The difference is that in 2021 the court omitted the provision of amendment act 1 of 2016 which states that the constitution for all purposes of the amendment act 1 of 2016 refers to the constitution of Zambia 1991 and that constitution states that a term is any period served by a president until the next election. The 2015_16 term was served under the 1991 constitution and so that term counts as one term. The constitution was amended in 2016 but the law does not apply retrospectively.

[@emmanueltembo-ki2gz]

I wonder one thing,why was it ok for the court to review its decision 3 times before and it is not ok for this one now?

[@pious4789]

It seems that most people debating this case are not talking about the legal principle of retrospective effect. The 2016 constitutional amendment cannot be applied backwards, that's were the error was made.

[@GiftKasongo-j5y]

He was eligible in 2021 but not in 2026 , reason court said, because of the courts mistake they had to made that is why he was eligible now the judgement it has changed. uwawa tabula kabepesho, there is no plan B but threatening the nation nama propaganda fipobosa fyekafyeka fi pf

[@stanleysiasinyanga5022]

Can Lubinda answer the question, "did Mr. Lungu's period in office from 2015 to 2016 constitute a term of office? The answer to this question is the crux of the matter.

[@misumbidickson266]

Isn't a term supposed to be 5 years?

[@bornifacengandu873]

​@misumbidickson266 which part of the constitution (before 2016) defined a term as 5 years? In my understanding, a term was not defined but it was strict that as long as you've been sworn in, then that counts as 1

[@mikebwanga4520]

he answered and you know what the constituition says

[@bornifacengandu873]

Didn't the ConCourt say that they didn't take the repealed Article 35 into consideration when delivering the previous 3 judgements?

[@lukupwamatthew]

Lubinda is so intelligent

[@simonphiri1481]

Lubinda is not so intelligent

[@CatherineMachinyanga]

And for your own information, not even the real top pf officials want Lungu

[@apostleKennedy-f3k]

Parliament must amend the constitution that allows president to appoint judges and let the citizen to vote for them so that they are answerable to the people who voted for them

[@emmanuelmayumbelo5510]

The problem with this suggestion is that, we only know politicians because they campaign but judges are not politicians they ain't built to campaign, how are we going to know the judges to vote for?

[@MutamboPrecious-n1x]

Mr lubinda are sure during the previous govt there were no one abusing to their powers thats a big lie honorable

[@bobobobo8507]

Lubinda Why do he stand himself If really want to save PF as a party

[@miyoba1]

He's a Chola boy 😂

[@miyoba1]

He's a Chola boy 😂

[@DanielMtonga-q4r]

I like this guy

[@georgemuyendekwa1245]

Lungu was never disqualified but just reminded that he served 2 terms and he is not eligible for 3rd term..

[@brianchiteta6544]

CORRECT!!! Nothing less, nothing more.

[@KelvinKawina-c9h]

The man we're telling all these is dull he can't even stand up for him self as the candidate

[@moonomundike8882]

Lol couldnt have said it better

[@simonphiri1481]

Spot on!

[@IchineChilayeba]

Ba Mwansa naimwe,air something constructive please, people are tired! You are even calling ba lubinda vice president of pf,WHICH PF? NAIMWEEE😢

[@markmweetwa7307]

Coaster u powerful

[@Hannah-jk3dk]

I agree he is powerful

[@imasikumbumwae9202]

Given Lubinda and Nakachimba are the two playboys who misled sleeping ECL.

[@EvansHanchuuli]

Mr Linda respect the judgement that was past.that is the highest ogarn that is highest respected would wide.dont miss lead Zambians.

[@restonemaambo6083]

Arrogant even in opposition, I can't imagine that.

[@seponangana939]

Imagine,a seemingly brilliant fellow deciding to be misleading,lawless and criminal

[@phillipmwamba741]

I have no doubt Given lubinda is a big problem in our Zambian politics and being justice minister during PF, he had his dirty hands in manipulating our justice system and that is why we are here still discussing the constitution which directly and self interpretaly on presidential limit. This guy abuse the justice and he need to be investigated and tried for the abuse of law for his political interests.

[@PhilKazanga-n1t]

It's cold outside government.. PF members are bitter

[@kwacha2986]

Continue making noise until 2031 Given Lubinda, this matter is dead

[@NelsonBanda-p1c]

Weldone lubinda very wise man keep it up, fight for pf we are with you our votes are yearning for for 2026 to remove HH

[@phillipmwamba741]

HH is winning 2026 election again

[@kenchanda8592]

Amen

[@isaacsakala7278]

Keep yearning till 2031

[@pardonmumba8421]

In as much as we may not agree with the decision, let's respect the courts for the sake of love. I don't agree with Hon Lubinda of forcing ECL to be on the ballot. Let's move on as a party. We've got many people to lead the Tonse alliance. I submit

[@davidsitungu8567]

Costa if he says the judgment was influenced then what are they saying about the judgment given in thier favor during their time in office!

[@miyoba1]

Good point, the same court broke the law during the petition but they were happy bcuz it benefited them.

[@nsamumoonga7500]

When you are lying to yourself and believe your own lies.

[@HydeMalasa]

ba lubinda you are butter remember how you where treating opposition

[@dennisjere8081]

Case law does not override the law🧐But play reference

[@JohnTembo703]

Bo Lubinda things will only change when you guys leave and let others take over because you have been there for too long doing same things

[@miyoba1]

No 3rd term in zambia. FTJ tried and failed, no comebacks KK failed, who do these think ECL is? An accident that happened will not be repeated.

[@GiftKasongo-j5y]

Costa you are a man ❤

[@PanAfricanist1963]

Encourage the old man to retire. He did his fair share of destruction to the country. We can't go backwards.

[@MushoSifulwa-ki8is]

Let the media stop talking about the issue which is already dealt with by the competent courts of law. Lubinda has nothing to offer. Which Pandora box is he talking about and how is it going to be opened and by who. PF under ecl is dead which is unfortunate

[@LawrenceMulenga-p7x]

Please be calm and understand what he is explaining

[@BrianMwandila-os1du]

I think these are the people who are making the life of former president,Edgar lungu to be tough and in chaos.Edgar lungu might be a good leader but the people surrounding him i think they are after there interest.Given Lubinda you should stand if you want PF to rule,kaili the party has got the same goals and manifestos regardless of who stands.Stop misusing Mr lungu for your own interests,if you want power just stand!

[@AlickMutinta]

Lubinda you are a break away from pf with your friends.You have no party to stand on

[@nsamumoonga7500]

Given Lubinda is trying too hard to spin. The judgement is clear and straightforward. All the questions Given is raising were answered in that judgement. He is obviously pandering here.

[@chamwekaira]

Costa's problem is wanting to be the centre of attention. Just ask questions

[@Christistheway178]

It’s funny how we understand different.

[@wonanisimpemba9385]

You should introduce sign language interpreters

[@JohnLukwanda-d9g]

Ok this is very interesting.the time this case was heard it was ecl president so is the judgement then.the man then was a president has the power to control the judgement.to his interest. Held bible two times is the bottom line full stop not eligible.

[@williammoopo9811]

Lubinda is just politicking

[@JohnTembo703]

So you want it to go to the Supreme court?

[@gershomkabaso2064]

Communication Principles

[@IanMooyau-bb6nk]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 You will remain with your own information Mr lubinda

[@andrewngwenya9807]

No lusambo. No elections. What happened?

[@miyoba1]

😂 ...remind us again

[@SimuiSimui-mc5wd]

Selfishness & bitterness in one person a cadre for ECL Given Lubinda😂😂😂😂

[@arhmonsimumbwe3733]

Irregardless is incorrect english Costa.😂😂 What I wanted to say is that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. When PF was in power, the judgement went their way. Apa kusuminafye, nokulabako. Nafipita. PF has enough leaders from which they can choose the next presidential candidate and support him. You can use ECL to campaign for your next candidate. LUBINDA can also be president

[@Hannah-jk3dk]

Lawlessness which they would not have handled well if it had happened during their time. Zambians hate lawlessness but it seems you dont

[@felixkangwa3315]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉lubinda is the man

[@oscarmusonda-oj4py]

Exactly 💯💚💚💚✊

[@sammakungu5028]

Pr9paganda machines! Do you counter check the charges by the opposition? What does the opposition tell you about Lungu's machineshinoes in power?

[@andrewngwenya9807]

Lubinda once said banyala. Kkkkkk. Lubinda why

[@elvisxvesmulowa]

Costa u are a good interviewer but the only challenge is that u don't give time to the people u are interviewing to express themselves.

[@jameschisambi2928]

We have had enough of this ECL eligibility case. We have heard recycled arguments over and over. The judges have delivered to Zambians their decision. I believe this is final. Every individual has their own opinion. You can argue endlessly on this case leading to nowhere. Can all these TV houses leave this case and give us different topics that matter in building the economy destroyed by PF?

[@simendazaza4374]

Wrong guest to discuss an important topic

[@watsonkambiambia180]

They can only break the law if they go against whats written, where is it written that they cant do it? 😂😂😂.

[@Heartsjmc]

The Danger is that in Zambia at the moment Judges are now writing the Law that power only belongs to parliament .... They acted unconstitutional irregardless of the reason because there is no constitutional provision for departure from past decisions so in short the constitutional Court became the legislator the right decision was to recommend to parliament to change the constitution to add that provision that was the issue with roe VS wade what happened recently was the court saying it was not supposed to happen because it was unconstitutional that's why for decades it was a thorn in the courts because they where unconstitutional ... I am not even a legal guy and I don't belong to any party Lubinda is right these guys fumbled. they should have recommended first parliament to change the law to allow them to go back and change the mistake they made if truly they made a mistake the first 4 times

[@fabioruiz6602]

Your chain of thought gets flawed when you say there's no constitutional provision for a court to change it's decision. There's no constitutional framework that explicitly says a court can never change it's previous position. Absolutely none. And if we're being honest Lungu and Co dribbled the whole country in 2021same way they have been dribbled by the current administration now.... It just didn't workout at the polls.

[@johnchansa]

in the same vain, the court can not apply the law retrospectively as they did in the Dan Pule case. They fumbled in 2017 exposing the judges political bias. They should have gone to parliament to allow them to apply the 2016 constitution retrospectively.

[@jamesmofya6555]

Criminals on TIVI kuno...😂😂😂😂😂

[@derickchama]

Upnd is scared of Ecl

[@miyoba1]

It's tiring.... 😂 3 years busy talking about PF, what a waste of 3 years. Costa please grill MPs and councilors about development projects in the areas.

[@philkazanga]

What do you expect from PF? They're crying babies now

[@ChrissieMpofu]

Mmmm ba lubinda you mean is he the only fish in the lake😊😅😅😅

[@stanleysiasinyanga5022]

Lubinda should discuss the substance of the case as opposed to discussing the power of the court to revisit the case. If the court's earlier judgement was faulty or erroneous, that cannot be sustained forever in a well-functioning judicial system. "'The proof of the pudding is in the eating"

[@josenzulu1479]

It seems that the interviewer or journalist is exhibiting bias and a lack of impartiality, which is characteristic of a political cadre, specifically one from the UPND party. Their repeated questioning, without taking the time to listen to the answers provided, further reinforces this impression."

[@sandramwansa8241]

I think he's just providing opposing viewpoints on behalf of the viewers in order to foster more credibility with the audience. In short the interviewer is just doing his job.

[@nooleshiku9065]

This man has personal hurt to the president HH

[@flyingtuvi]

But surely, is ECL the only one available, you can’t groom someone else ba Lubinda naimwe? This topic about Lungu is now getting boring mwe! ECL is done and will never see the ballot again, the quicker it sinks in your brain the better.

[@petyrbaelish8291]

Having said that...what do you suggest cuz we both kno that hh so far as done nothing bt lie to us Zambian and he has done nothing bt ruin Zambia....Zambia is now in deep shit under his leadership...

[@fabioruiz6602]

​@@petyrbaelish8291 and that's how politicians will keep lying to you. upnd lied when they said pf did nothing. Now pf is lying when they say upnd had done nothing. NOTHING????? Be honest with yourself

[@flyingtuvi]

@@petyrbaelish8291 My suggestion is you stop relying on politicians for survival, instead work hard on your own and use your god given talents to build your net worth. Some of us use politics as a past time thing and do not depend on it. We made it through hard work and are not impacted in any way by neither ECL nor HH. Pull up your socks brother. All politicians are the same. All I can say here is Lubinda is being idiotic by pushing something that has no legal merit. ECL wont be on that ballot no matter what, therefore, the unnecessary reliance on ECL is actually killing Toonse alliance.

[@phillipmwamba741]

​@@petyrbaelish8291that's your views through political lenses, but the truth is HH is doing much more in this first term than what PF did in 10 years. Unless you tell me that you do not live in Zambia and if so, ask well

[@valentinekabungo4122]

Iwe mwansa give time for lubinda to explain, what kind of a journalist are you?

[@kenchanda8592]

What an intelligent and wise man in Hon. Given Lubinda!!! The man who is wiser and more intelligent than the collective upnd... 😊💪💪💪💪💪😍💪💪

[@miyoba1]

He's from upnd .... 😂 you forgot.

[@chizamagolo7786]

Well done costa

[@jamesnsanta3621]

Power is sweet. Indeed, i can imagine how these guys, the lubinda's are in such a desperation that they need to bounce back to power with all that they did in their time of office honestly by now they should be resting and repent.

[@rodwellmanda6288]

Mr lubinda, Mr lungu rured this country 7yrs,a term is 5 yrs that tells that its two terms now what do you want for this country? If the said lungu went through in 2021 he would have ruled this country for12yrs was that to be in line with the constitution? Don't be so selfish PF leave HH alone.

[@markmweetwa7307]

Y can't u lubinda open yr on party

[@EdinahMambwe]

Well spoken Mr lubinda 🎉❤

[@stephenmpundu4236]

And when they show us why they ruled the way did in three decision, don't start running like JJ.

[@happymoyo]

Let matters of constitution be taken to parliament

[@gregorymumba4453]

Costa has become a upnd spokesperson or Diamond has become a upnd media

[@nobbymvula1863]

The court will just say you are right he was eligible in 2021. But for 2026 he is not.

[@andrewngwenya9807]

Kkkkkkkk . Eat his money. Gifts

[@nathankasitu]

Walikosa lubinda

[@CatherineMachinyanga]

Lubinda your arrogance will never have be taken to any court just accept

[@valentinekabungo4122]

The problem with Costa is that he doesn't give enough time to allow the panelist to speak, Costa you must go back to school

[@GordenChinyayi]

Is this man afraid of leading the party

[@MwateSinjela-w3k]

You are one of the enemies to elc, by you failling to tell ecl the true...bwana rest .

[@harrietmoonde7169]

Kkkkkj, dreaming again bo lubinda.no coming back just organise yourselves.nsoni atibwa

[@essaleTrends]

This boy hates HH

[@ExpeditorMiyoba]

Lubinda behaves as if he is not schooled any he is not a learned layer

[@kwacha2986]

Given Lubinda ndiwe galu, u are full of lies 😮

[@mohamedmalik9936]

costa you can't ask and answer to your self with loooong explanation , so if you want to talk alone why are you hosting people

[@justinechileya5247]

Problem you opposition mwakulafye imitwe namafuno amano tamwakwata why mwalimbikila lungu, lungu nomore

[@marymatenga-pk6oh]

Ecl his got heart for the people of zambia , And his a God fearling president

[@happymoyo]

Honorable lubinda you're very right and brilliant indeed you're a man..I wish UPND could have a learned person like you..

[@stephenmpundu4236]

Lunshi wacilumba, ashikwa necitumbi.