Diana Tells The Queen About The BBC Interview | The Crown (Elizabeth Debicki, Imelda Staunton)

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@MovingPicsOfficial
@MovingPicsOfficial 6 ай бұрын
Do you think Diana went too far?
@cliffsofresh8753
@cliffsofresh8753 6 ай бұрын
😂 no it was the truth
@norahsmith2303
@norahsmith2303 6 ай бұрын
she did what was right.
@graphiquejack
@graphiquejack 6 ай бұрын
Yes. Above all else she should have thought of her children who would grow up to see how ugly their parents were to each other. Everyone involved behaved badly at some stage. She needs to take responsibility for that too, instead of manipulating the media to make herself out to be this fragile victim. I understand she was manipulated herself by Basheer, but it was a terrible mistake she herself regretted eventually. Unfortunately her son has the same petty, vindictive and impulsive streak she did, and look how it’s turned out for him. Only now does he possibly see what a mess he’s made of his life.
@harini2004
@harini2004 6 ай бұрын
Emotionally depressed egoistic family. Queen Elisabeth didn't care about people. Just her reputation. Wearing stolen treasures from colonies. Is far worse than exposing truth. Elisabeth is the mentally manipulating Diana. Her partner is a nazi sympathizer with blood relatives married to nazi leaders.
@tessdurberville711
@tessdurberville711 6 ай бұрын
Yes. She should have been exiled.
@hera7884
@hera7884 5 ай бұрын
All the Queen had to do was tell her son to stop cheating on his wife. They needed to condemn his actions, not condemn Diana.
@MiamiPush2theLimit
@MiamiPush2theLimit 4 ай бұрын
Cheating is expected in that social circle.
@olgkesakov7445
@olgkesakov7445 4 ай бұрын
Dian chose to accept all the privileges of the royal family but rejected the privilege's complement, the rotten morality.
@michaelmontagu3979
@michaelmontagu3979 4 ай бұрын
@hera7884 Or maybe they should both have stopped? Remember that Diana had about 9 affairs. Like most troubled marriages, it wasn't all one sided.
@hera7884
@hera7884 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelmontagu3979 Charles always had the other woman. Camilla was always in the picture, from the beginning of his marriage to the very end. Diana never had a choice in the matter. Who do you think started it first? You don’t get the right to choose if your spouse cheats on you or not if you cheated on them first, from the beginning. Your comment makes no sense
@michaelmontagu3979
@michaelmontagu3979 4 ай бұрын
@@hera7884 Actually, Diana admitted that she started to have an affair before Charles and Camilla started again. It wasn't all one sided.
@justinswingle4714
@justinswingle4714 6 ай бұрын
these are GOOD actors! the 'queen' actually sounds like the late queen.
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w 6 ай бұрын
The actress playing the queen did an excellent film on abortion many years ago.
@Chicago63
@Chicago63 6 ай бұрын
Vera Drake. Imelda Staunton was nominated for an Oscar.
@brianmurray7980
@brianmurray7980 4 ай бұрын
@@Gagalover1569 I'm not sure how old you are or what kind of movies you're into, but the fact that Imelda Staunton was an amazing choice for one of the most hated Harry Potter characters is a huge hurdle for me. To see her in a sympathetic regal role is very jarring for anyone who absolutely despises Delores Umbridge.
@tford4588
@tford4588 4 ай бұрын
@@brianmurray7980I’m a Harry Potter fan and hate that character as well but she’s just that good of an actor. She can do both.
@serenitysfirefly
@serenitysfirefly 2 ай бұрын
​@@brianmurray7980 And that's what made her an incredible Mrs. Lovett! 😂
@coffeewithcarline9171
@coffeewithcarline9171 6 ай бұрын
Holy smokes she sounds just like Diana
@Fedderchini
@Fedderchini 5 ай бұрын
She’s a Aussie actor and a brilliant one
@kataisa3
@kataisa3 6 ай бұрын
The personal, private, and professional landmines the Queen had to navigate on a daily basis makes her longevity as a successful Monarch all the more impressive.
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 6 ай бұрын
She was a terrible ruler and worse leader. Ruined the lives of her own family members with her bad judgement.
@Tom-cn4cm
@Tom-cn4cm 3 ай бұрын
lol ok fanboy
@x-wing8785
@x-wing8785 3 ай бұрын
I don't know how much the events and characters correspond to reality but jesus,this series is well written. You can clearly see how Elisabeth has to live two lives behind her stoic face.Each word is fitted between two characters.She as the person and she as the Queen. In addition of that,it's hard to tell which one of them is talking at any given time.Simply,genius writing and acting.
@valerierodger
@valerierodger 2 ай бұрын
From the time she was a teenager, she took her oath and her duty very seriously and put that before everything else. That made her an excellent monarch, but it tends to be rough on families.
@priscillajimenez27
@priscillajimenez27 17 күн бұрын
Lord kept her around a long time to hold down the fort
@robertwebb3546
@robertwebb3546 6 ай бұрын
It must have been so difficult for Her late Majesty to understand the public airing of grievances when she had been brought up to just remain silent and manage through.
@Essenceofblood5238
@Essenceofblood5238 5 ай бұрын
It must've been so difficult for her late Majesty to understand that the whole "grin and bear your cross silently" approach was highly unhealthy and potentially counterproductive. It must've been further difficult for her to understand that this approach is even unhealthier for people who aren't brought up that way... and/or people whose very nature goes against it.
@tjwash2
@tjwash2 4 ай бұрын
@@Essenceofblood5238 There’s a difference between stuffing feelings and regurgitating them without restraint on anyone in earshot. There’s a middle ground.
@sb12083
@sb12083 4 ай бұрын
I hardly believe she had any idea what was going on around her most of the time. She was an immensely simple woman, despite anything this series claims.
@Tom-cn4cm
@Tom-cn4cm 3 ай бұрын
Stop calling her that. Stop celebrating a dictatorship.
@yvonneplant9434
@yvonneplant9434 3 ай бұрын
​@@Tom-cn4cmDictatorship monarchs ended in the 17th century. Do read some history.
@branflakes12341
@branflakes12341 6 ай бұрын
I've always got the impression the queen tried to defend and help diana, but she was simply from a generation that doesn't do that huggy and everything is going to be okay type support. The queen simply didn't know how to help her, kinda feel sorry for both of them. An example of this is when Charles says when he needs cheering up he calls his mistress. The queen scolded him for it and told him to be more supportive of his wife
@michelletodd4893
@michelletodd4893 6 ай бұрын
Then why didn't the queen want to give her a proper royal funeral? Why did the queen take 8 days before going to Aberfan? She never "ran" a country. She was just PR. More vacations than a retired monk.
@lekenaackerman9367
@lekenaackerman9367 6 ай бұрын
​@michelletodd4893 the Queen was someone who was "by the book". She expected for diana and fergie to be happy. They, after all were married to naval officers. She saw her parents as having a great marriage, as well as her father being a loyal naval officer. She saw the same thing in her own with Prince Philip.
@MTknitter22
@MTknitter22 6 ай бұрын
@@branflakes12341 The Queen did not want to help her. It was not about her generation. We can’t blame her failures as a mother figure in her family on her generation. My Mum was of same generation and if she was that cold and uncomplimentary of her son, it would not be overlooked.
@MTknitter22
@MTknitter22 6 ай бұрын
@@lekenaackerman9367 things much easier for the Queen and she never realized it.
@lekenaackerman9367
@lekenaackerman9367 6 ай бұрын
@MTknitter22 I have to disagree. She had to find a balance between being a good mother and being the queen. Charles and Anne are two that she did not understand. They are very different in terms of personalities. She had good mothering instincts, however because she was a mother figure to Lady Sarah. That all being said, I think she thought that if you are married to an officer, you are doing something good. It is pretty much all she has known. Diana was on another level altogether. She (diana) had people working against her: Camilla, the press, Princess Anne, The Queen Mom, Princess Margaret, her brother, her mother and her grandmother. That is a lot and I am sure that because the Queen had this "bound by duty" attitude, she didn't know how to help Diana. I think that Diana was looking for a mother figure. She had a father figure in Prince Philip, but it wasn't enough for her.
@l.a.3479
@l.a.3479 6 ай бұрын
The height difference between the 2 actresses is striking.
@martino2794
@martino2794 6 ай бұрын
Queen Elizabeth was quite small
@l.a.3479
@l.a.3479 6 ай бұрын
And Diana was very tall obviously. I once saw footage of the real Diana bowing to the emperor and empress of Japan, 2 short people. Diana had to take a deep lunge but it was graceful.​@@martino2794
@sarahmurphy8030
@sarahmurphy8030 6 ай бұрын
I saw the Queen and she was tiny
@flophilp
@flophilp 6 ай бұрын
@@martino2794Elizabeth Debicki is also quite tall.
@jonathanlandau-litewski7405
@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I met our late Queen and she was tiny, and I'm only a 5'9" guy!
@EliasMoore-t9n
@EliasMoore-t9n 6 ай бұрын
Imelda Staunton is such a great actrtess.
@barbie-li2995
@barbie-li2995 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion, she and Maggie Smith are Britain's best actresses!
@Crinkle.Stilt.Skin.
@Crinkle.Stilt.Skin. 6 ай бұрын
@@barbie-li2995 And Dame Judi Dench!
@danielde7542
@danielde7542 5 ай бұрын
​@@Crinkle.Stilt.Skin.Indeed, three wonderful Dames!
@Brian-yw2yb
@Brian-yw2yb 6 ай бұрын
The Diana’s were so good! Kudos to the casting director!
@carlousmagus5387
@carlousmagus5387 6 ай бұрын
She never should have done that interview, neither should have the Prince of Wales, now The King.
@MaryTheresa1986
@MaryTheresa1986 6 ай бұрын
I agree. The Panorama interview, as well as Andrew Morton's book, set forth a chain of events that led to Diana's death. She died 20 months after that damned interview.
@kevq761
@kevq761 6 ай бұрын
If anything it finally ended the marriage
@potocatepetl
@potocatepetl 6 ай бұрын
@@kevq761 🤣😂what marriage are you talking about? A paper doesn't make a marriage.
@MarianDown
@MarianDown 6 ай бұрын
@@potocatepetl oh yes it does, historically marriage was just that - a paper.
@potocatepetl
@potocatepetl 6 ай бұрын
@@MarianDown they didn't marry centuries ago for this statement to make sense. He pretended to love her for the entire world to see and he brought innocent children into this world without a second thought. He is responsible for all the mess that came afterwards.
@tasibho
@tasibho 5 ай бұрын
The gaslighting of it all..”no,it’s in your head, it’s always been in your head”.. diana was no saint and did some questionable things but to say she had not suffered is simply untrue.
@wheelyjon
@wheelyjon 5 ай бұрын
It's a drama 'everything behind closed doors I imagined' the writer has said that
@DeedeeMG4
@DeedeeMG4 5 ай бұрын
She did not say she didn’t suffered she said the enemy was in her head because she thought they were plotting against her, Diana was paranoid at the end and tricked into the interview
@ToddMiller-nl2wn
@ToddMiller-nl2wn 5 ай бұрын
The way I look at it, Diana had to learn what Harry needs to learn; when you are a member of the Royal Family you don’t belong to yourself but rather to the nation. There are a lot of benefits that come with being in the Royal Family but there are also sacrifices to be made. I feel that a lot of people will ask me if Diana was to live in misery and I will say no. But she had two choices: Either conform to the rules or get out. Same goes for Harry.
@nnedwards3260
@nnedwards3260 4 ай бұрын
This 'saint', she's no 'saint'... what does that mean? Wasnt the husband cheating?
@DarlingNikki2
@DarlingNikki2 3 ай бұрын
It was a bit different for Harry in that it was Meghan who did not want to confirm to the idea that the press had the right to mock her then unborn child by portraying him as a monkey with her having to simply take that gross insult in silence. For her there was no choice but to get out of a system that would allow such blatant disregard of her child but Harry was understandably torn. He loved his blood family, quirks and all, but he had a wife and children to protect and defend when no one else in the family seemingly would. Like Diana, Harry spoke and wrote his truth and it hurt many he loved but it was his experience so I respect him for sharing it. Reconciliation seems impossible but I'm hopeful that time will heal the wounds on both sides, at least for the sake of the children who shouldn't be punished for adults behaving badly.
@--ag
@--ag 6 ай бұрын
The interviewer tricked Diana into giving that interview. He did the same to Michael Jackson.
@mdlifer8847
@mdlifer8847 6 ай бұрын
They thought the press would be on their side? Please.
@thechuckleshow2470
@thechuckleshow2470 6 ай бұрын
But it was fair enough bcs she got to tell her side of the story. Bashir's actions and intentions might be wrong but the result was satisfaction for Diana atleast.
@lekenaackerman9367
@lekenaackerman9367 6 ай бұрын
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc Diana admitted to the affairs. Further, she grew up in a home where she was exposed to abuse over and over agiain. In the end, Charles and Camilla were in the wrong. They both were way older and knew better. They should have put their foot down. The Queen Mom supported the relationship. The Queen also put her foot down when it came to marrying who she wanted. They both used her as a shield and she was expected to remain steady and devoted to Charles and the crown.
@jillb3072
@jillb3072 6 ай бұрын
Every Bashir interview I’ve seen, he’s pissed off or rewrote the interview with editing.
@nassauguy48
@nassauguy48 6 ай бұрын
Having lived in the limelight for most of their lives, and knowing the reputation of the media, they were not suspicious of giving such interviews? The term "media hounds" should really be "media wolves". They should have known better.
@mikekelly7833
@mikekelly7833 6 ай бұрын
Such a devastating scene! Truly makes me wonder if Diana did go to warn Her Majesty before the interview and if she did, I can absolutely see the Queen and Diana having this very conversation. How much did Diana regret in that moment? Would she take it back if she could after? And then the fact she was manipulated into the interview. Al the stuff not being said here. Fascinating! The Crown is truly sublime.
@vaibhavsharmafilms5866
@vaibhavsharmafilms5866 6 ай бұрын
Diana didn't go the the Queen to warn her before the interview. (Told by the staff of the palace)
@saraproblemhere
@saraproblemhere 6 ай бұрын
The sad truth is, Diana was probably never going to be happy.
@Rat_Queen86
@Rat_Queen86 4 ай бұрын
I get your point It’s thought she had borderline personality disorder, which is hard enough but the one thing he sought, closeness, was never going to happen in that family.
@ashleybrooke2087
@ashleybrooke2087 2 ай бұрын
In terms of this program, which I realize is a fictionalized version, the whole point to me seems to be it's almost impossible to be in this family & be happy unless you're lucky enough to be one of the royals whose role is rather minor & you're content with that. Aim squarely for the middle & enjoy it & you make out just fine.
@kiralindholm2009
@kiralindholm2009 4 ай бұрын
The queen was so very right here. Don't know if this really happened but I hope she said this to Diana.
@Starjumper2000four
@Starjumper2000four 6 ай бұрын
How terrible for Diana , Charles, and Camilla. They should have never forced him away from Camilla. He loved her for years before he met Diana. Charles and Diana should’ve never been married. I know this isn’t going to be a popular opinion, but there it is.
@artforlifelady
@artforlifelady 6 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. It was basically an arranged marriage. The one thing the Queen got wrong.
@dimitrabouzalas3090
@dimitrabouzalas3090 6 ай бұрын
If Charles loved Camilla so deeply, he ought to have married her before she married someone else. If Camilla loved Charles so deeply, she ought to have waited until Charles was ready. They both need to accept responsibility.
@dimitrabouzalas3090
@dimitrabouzalas3090 6 ай бұрын
@@artforlifeladyIn addition to the other thing she got wrong- raising her children without love and warmth. Another thing she got wrong is organising the dismissal of Australia’s Prime Minister, Mr Gough Whitlam.
@lorileeann7623
@lorileeann7623 6 ай бұрын
Charles wanted to marry Camilla way back when, but his Godfather, Lord Mountbatten, was against it and convinced Charles, who respected him more than his own father, and the Queen and PP to go along...he didn't think Camilla was good enough or pretty enough for him...and Camilla ended up quickly moving on and married, basically the first person to come along and started a family...then shortly thereafter, it's horrible to say, but Lord Mountbatten was assassinated....of course, how would Charles know that was going to happen....
@jmcmurrah
@jmcmurrah 6 ай бұрын
You’re so right.
@jasminerahman8410
@jasminerahman8410 6 ай бұрын
Such great acting from both actresses . Looks so realistic. Poor Princess Diana . All she wanted was to be loved and accepted by the royal family. She had a beautiful aura. May she always rest in peace. Ameen 😢
@chae226
@chae226 6 ай бұрын
3:51 THEY BROUGHT PRINCESS DIANA BACK TO FVCKNG LIFE! THE RESEMBLANCE IS UNCANNY!
@pazuzu126
@pazuzu126 6 ай бұрын
I think she's definitely taller than the real Diana though
@Fedderchini
@Fedderchini 5 ай бұрын
@@pazuzu126she is in heels yeah great Australian actress
@hellbunniez3
@hellbunniez3 4 ай бұрын
@@pazuzu126she is, elizabeth debicki is 6’3 while diana was 5’10.
@Hanansax
@Hanansax 5 ай бұрын
not queen gaslighting the shit of her lmao, 3:32 the amount pain and hopelessness in her eyes here is unreal. I can’t imagine enough how she’s deeply suffered in her life by simply wanting to be loved and comforted and cherished. That’s all. she’s didn’t asked too much but of course the world like usual is turned against her and for people like her. may she rested in peace. And forever remembered x
@sickpup820
@sickpup820 5 ай бұрын
Queen Elizabeth's feeling towards Diana didn't matter. She was the mother of her grandchildren and had a duty to keep an eye on Diana for William and Harry's sake, however Martin Bashir convinced Diana through fake bank statements that the Royal Family were spying on her, which in turn made her ditch her RPOs. (Royal Protection Officers)
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 3 ай бұрын
​​@@sickpup820 Very well said. Bashir's evil ability to play with Diana's head was very bitter and enormously cut throat for Diana. This interview was a disaster for both of them. The singer Michael Jackson wasn't too impressed by his interview with Bashir either.
@meghanaraj4854
@meghanaraj4854 Ай бұрын
Most mothers of sons
@tjwash2
@tjwash2 4 ай бұрын
I like the inference that busy people don’t have you on their mind as much you have them on yours. It’s true, and too many times I was the less busy one.
@gabrieleortiz5041
@gabrieleortiz5041 6 ай бұрын
Poor Diana was not a good fit for that family. She was too young to know what she was truly marrying into.
@Christi-bt5ef
@Christi-bt5ef 6 ай бұрын
No they didn’t deserve her
@AndyBluebear-fi9om
@AndyBluebear-fi9om 6 ай бұрын
@@Christi-bt5ef Not a question of deserving. Just a bad match from both sides from the start.
@MTknitter22
@MTknitter22 6 ай бұрын
@@gabrieleortiz5041 yes. Remember the Muslim doctor she was deeply in love with but he would not marry her? He and his family realized she had big problems and although he loved her, he understood marriage is serious and Diana was all about HER needs.
@Christi-bt5ef
@Christi-bt5ef 6 ай бұрын
@@AndyBluebear-fi9om think of this perspective they manipulated her. I’m Team Diana
@AndyBluebear-fi9om
@AndyBluebear-fi9om 6 ай бұрын
@@Christi-bt5ef I'm not sure they did...but she was manipulated into giving the interview.
@asadurrehmanawan
@asadurrehmanawan 6 ай бұрын
Diana's pain can be felt in this scene
@mountbatten2222
@mountbatten2222 6 ай бұрын
HER PAIN ?! SHE WAS LYING IN THIS INTERVIEW TO DAMAGE THE REPUTATION OF CHARLES ! HER INTENTION WAS TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR CHARLES TO BECOME KING ! DIANA WAS AN IMMATURE GIRL WHO REFUSED TO GROW INTO THE ROLE SHE MARRIED INTO. BECAUSE OF HER, THE MONARCHY HAS TURNED INTO A SOAP OPERA !
@michellelaviolette574
@michellelaviolette574 6 ай бұрын
I felt the Queen’s pain
@astra-rb6sz
@astra-rb6sz 6 ай бұрын
She was a drama queen
@sarahmurphy8030
@sarahmurphy8030 6 ай бұрын
Diana was so selfish
@Redford1-g2t
@Redford1-g2t 6 ай бұрын
@@michellelaviolette574 me too
@01Mary02
@01Mary02 6 ай бұрын
I loved Diana like everyone else at the time, but in hindsight, it was clear she had massive mental health problems, was headstrong and would do anything to get her own way, including shooting herself in the foot. While she may have won the battle of public opinion at the time, her cooperating with Andrew Morton with his book and then the BBC interview, she was the author of her own demise which lead to her divorce and ultimate death. And as a result, she left her two boys without a mother and Camilla as Queen of England. What a horrific, needless tragedy.
@01Mary02
@01Mary02 6 ай бұрын
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc I don't think she married Charles just for a title. I do believe she loved him but it was a fantasy-romantic love straight out of Disney and she had no idea how to make a successful marriage. And while I never liked Fergie and thought she was a disaster as a member of the RF, I do believe she genuinely loved Andrew.
@livingincaptivityIII
@livingincaptivityIII 6 ай бұрын
​@@01Mary02 And still does.
@01Mary02
@01Mary02 6 ай бұрын
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc I think Andrew & Sarah really do love each other. I don't like either of them, but they seem to want to stick with each other. As far as Diana is concerned, she was too young and too emotionally damaged to be able to be a good wife, especially as Charles was also emotionally damaged from his childhood. He couldn't give her what she needed and she couldn't give him what he needed. I believe Catherine really does love William, but I don't think Meghan has ever loved Harry. He was simply a tool for her to get that worldwide fame she's been after her whole life.
@ruizhiqiu2109
@ruizhiqiu2109 5 ай бұрын
Diana was only 19 and it must be devastating to know that your husband loves somebody else. I still remember when asked if they were in love, Diana answered “of course”and Charles said “whatever loves means”. If he can respond like that in public, how do we know how he acts or makes her feel in private. A very “normal” person could easily develop mental health issues under those circumstances.
@01Mary02
@01Mary02 5 ай бұрын
@@ruizhiqiu2109 I don't disagree with you entirely. I think the way he treated her certainly contributed to her mental health problems, but I believe it started when her parents divorced.
@christinaify
@christinaify 5 ай бұрын
This show really cast Elizabeth in a positive light. From start to finish, I can't think of a single time they made her unsympathetic or in the wrong. Which is...suspicious.
@robertdickson9319
@robertdickson9319 5 ай бұрын
An interesting take. I think the show, in general, casts her in an unflattering (at best) light. Someone who is emotionally distant from her family & arguably a poor mother. Someone who is out of touch with the common Briton, especially in the latter half of her reign. Someone who strives for quiet and tranquility yet unwilling to resolve the issues that create turmoil & chaos. Keeping in mind that the show is more fiction than reality, we can debate the causes of her personality & decision making but I finished the series with a sense of sadness - that while she was good at her day job, her family life suffered because of her (in)actions.
@ETPlayground
@ETPlayground 5 ай бұрын
​@@robertdickson9319 and it's all presented in a "oh wow, how hard for her" manner every time.
@SuperRobertoClemente
@SuperRobertoClemente 5 ай бұрын
I don't think she's cast in a good light here. She's gaslighting Diana. Of course the rest of the family perceived Diana as a showboat and a problem. They were used to a way of interacting with the press and being worshipped until Diana swooped in, basically from the future, to usher in an entire new level of access to the royal family and its problems.
@IvanaKupala
@IvanaKupala 5 ай бұрын
Suspicious would be bashing the Queen, who was nothing but utterly dutiful and loyal to the country.
@furlycee
@furlycee 4 ай бұрын
Really she was the villain to her sister Margaret when she forced her not to marry the man she loved because he was divorced… then the same character flaw came up when she forced Charles not to marry the one he loved because she was divorced… the Diana situation was a culmination of the Queen’s own failings and callous disregard for the people around her
@Ayoub-y1w
@Ayoub-y1w 6 ай бұрын
That moment 4:37 when the camera goes far away from their face is terrifying, it almost felt real
@azjmsxhn
@azjmsxhn 5 ай бұрын
they both need to win an emmy this year!!!
@LetMeThink007
@LetMeThink007 5 ай бұрын
And Harry carries on with the same narrative 🤦‍♀️
@thomasfy4
@thomasfy4 6 ай бұрын
NOT ONCE
@TheRealDeal92
@TheRealDeal92 3 ай бұрын
The sad thing about this whole scene is this: how would Diana know that the Queen defends her when all she feels like is a statue in their system and never sees the Queen unless it was for an event of some kind, no chance to be one on one to talk about any of it. And most of all, the Queen is telling Diana that it is all in her head when it never has been. If the Queen had actually taken the time to really look at Diana, she would have known something was truly wrong, talk with her. Instead the Queen did what she did best, act accordingly, not as a human being should. I understand that she is the Queen, the Crown, an image to the people of England and she has been for decades now. But for her to act as if another person’s feelings especially the mother of her grandchildren is not really worth the time even with her busy schedule. Thanks for uploading.
@fahimfaisalmahir567
@fahimfaisalmahir567 3 ай бұрын
Queen never liked interfering in others' personal lives unless they posted a threat to the Crown. She really hoped Diana and Charles would come to a settlement and enjoy their separate lives while remaining married. Diana could sleep with as many men she could and the same goes for Charles as well as long as they kept them private and appeared united in public.
@TheRealDeal92
@TheRealDeal92 3 ай бұрын
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 sadly Elizabeth does but not like other people do. For example, she interfered with her husband’s life and career. Ensuring that her sister, Margaret did not marrying Peter. Delaying her marriage to Tony. Jump to later on, Margaret wanted to do more work but instead Elizabeth had whatever work Margaret had taken away. Elizabeth became the system of the Crown. She lost all humanity she once had over time being the Queen of England while interfering with others in all kinds of ways.
@fahimfaisalmahir567
@fahimfaisalmahir567 3 ай бұрын
@@TheRealDeal92You are forgetting one thing here i.e. the Parliament. Margaret’s marriage with Peter was opposed by many elected MPs and Church as well. That time parliamentarians had a say in royal marriages. She turned down the marriage proposal not as her sister, but as the Queen. Margaret could no longer serve as Counsellor of State after Edward came of age bcz only 5 people can be Counsellors of state (rule made by Parliament). Queen is bounded by constitution and laws, and she had to upheld it no matter what.
@TheRealDeal92
@TheRealDeal92 3 ай бұрын
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 all very true. No arguing with that. However to others at the time like her husband and her sister, Philip saw his wife taking the council of Parliament immediately follow with considering what it’ll do to her marriage and her children. And to her sister, that relationship destroyed, never been the same since. Philip saw her as his wife, love of his life before she became Queen. Her sister knew her far longer before she ever became Queen so she would always see her as a sister before being Queen of England. As for Diana, she saw her as more of a mother in law, a second mother and grandmother to Diana’s children before seeing her as Queen of England. The Queen of England is one of the biggest jobs in the world however she was a sister, a wife, a mother before she ever became Queen. She could have definitely found other ways so the relationships between her husband and sister could have remained good rather than just a connection of the Crown and being Queen. She should have found another option for Margarett and Peter. She should have found a more solid ground for her husband before taking away his career. She should have understood how her own son, Charles treated Diana and helped better the situation than to let Charlie’s continue his mistress relationship. Again, I more than understand Elizabeth was Queen and had to always consider the council and advice of Parliament of England. I only believe she could have found other options to find a good balance for her husband, her sister, her children and her daughter in law.
@fahimfaisalmahir567
@fahimfaisalmahir567 3 ай бұрын
@@TheRealDeal92 She was a human after all. She had her limitations. Maybe for her the Crown, family legacy and the country mattered more than her personal relationships. She can't be everything to everyone.
@pinverarity
@pinverarity 5 ай бұрын
Gotta love queenie patting herself on the back for not bad-mouthing Diana, as if that itself was an achievement worthy of admiration. Congrats, Lizzie-you did the absolute minimum. One can only hope the real person wasn’t as meager a human as this.
@DarlingNikki2
@DarlingNikki2 3 ай бұрын
I think the representation was closer than most would like. Elizabeth kept herself walked off from all but a trusted few and I had the feeling she was so adept at it she even forgot who she was as she became absorbed by the mythical Crown and Country trope. The girl she was died the moment she was crowned and through many trials she became the enigma many loved and mourned.
@DarlingNikki2
@DarlingNikki2 3 ай бұрын
Walled off, not walked off lol. Darn autocorrect 😂
@Sophie_kent
@Sophie_kent 5 ай бұрын
Diana was not a perfect angel. She made many mistakes.
@mariaw.4780
@mariaw.4780 6 ай бұрын
Also, as this fictional show does NOT explain, Prince Charles tried during the early years of his marriage to get Diana all the help she needed. He hired therapist after therapist, but Diana ultimately refused treatment. That isn't entirely her fault: from personal experience I know that therapy for mental illness is Very, VERY hard and difficult to do. But if you refuse it, you refuse the treatment. Diana also refused psychiatric medicine because of the stupid false stereotype that psychiatric meds implies that you're "doing drugs". We can see where she's coming from, but, for this woman to EVER have implied that no one tried to help her is BEYOND a lie. She could just never, ever accept that anything, anything was partially her fault.
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w 6 ай бұрын
I also think she had post partum depression with one child. She also had anorexia nervosa.
@prall0915
@prall0915 6 ай бұрын
​@@BunnyWatson-k1wYes
@ElvenSkywalker
@ElvenSkywalker 6 ай бұрын
He was severely gaslighting her in their marriage and all those supposed therapists were to reinforce that. Ending his extra-marital affair and not being a spoiled brat who resented his wife for being popular would have been a far more genuine and fruitful attempt to help. I understand Charles has spent the past years putting considerable effort and money into his false victimhood PR - but I CANNOT understand people actually buying that about ‘Prince’ “do you seriously expect me to be the first Prince of Wales in history not to have a mistress?”. We also have video evidence of how much he has publicly humiliated Diana such as their engagement interview or that time he ‘joked’ about having two wives. Pathetic.
@KNPrince
@KNPrince 5 ай бұрын
@@BunnyWatson-k1w No.. The late Princess of Wales was bulimic.. there is a big difference between the two disorders!
@deepparavindran8738
@deepparavindran8738 5 ай бұрын
@@ElvenSkywalkerI think the only mistake Diana did was to think Charles was in love with her
@kedeglow2743
@kedeglow2743 5 ай бұрын
What a crock of crap. All the queen really wanted was for Diana to "behave herself,...meaning "put up and shut up". Meanwhile Chuck was very happy with his permanent (even today!) side piece. I will never refer to her as "Queen" Camilla.
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei 5 ай бұрын
How many "side pieces" did Diana have? Did anyone keep count? She even admitted she was the first to stray, as even she mentioned that Charles and Camilla had no "contact" until 1986 when Charles could see that Diana was involved with Hewitt (two years after Harry was born in case anyone wants to start in on that).
@fahimfaisalmahir567
@fahimfaisalmahir567 4 ай бұрын
She in indeed the Queen. Queen Camilla 🫅
@Twentythousandlps
@Twentythousandlps 5 ай бұрын
Always people who "misbehave" meet with coldness and judgment from those who behave, which gives the people who misbehave an excuse to double down and so on in a spiral.
@meloworx221
@meloworx221 6 ай бұрын
This scene got me choking on all the gaslight fumes
@jonathanlandau-litewski7405
@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 6 ай бұрын
I do understand where you are coming from but Diana was known to be an incredibly irritating attention seeker.
@lukeboulter-x4u
@lukeboulter-x4u 5 ай бұрын
@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405tbh so was Charles and the queen incredibly out of touch and self indulgent privileged inbreds
@marietighe6328
@marietighe6328 5 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405yep she was a ridiculous spoiled drama queen.
@jonathanlandau-litewski7405
@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 5 ай бұрын
@@marietighe6328 the only queen she was ever gonna be!
@pikachuthedog
@pikachuthedog 5 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 was she really? Or you just like to see it that way.
@kalinastachel1425
@kalinastachel1425 Ай бұрын
3:57 is a marvellous example of how mothers see their children's involvement in adults business. Diana was all about herself and her righ of telling everybody how she felt, so she expected her kids to endure it. Elizabeth considered it unnecessary and hurtful for the family. One time being not so emotional actually could've benefited them more.
@joshuafess4295
@joshuafess4295 6 ай бұрын
I think if the queen had been wiser 20 years before the marriage, she would’ve treated Diana with much more protection, consideration and respect, I also think if she wouldn’t have been advised or influence, she would’ve probably been much more a mother figure to her. Things might’ve been very differently, but history is sadly a game that is watched from the backseat.
@MsJubjubbird
@MsJubjubbird 6 ай бұрын
I think she would have pushed harder for the marriage with Charles and Camilla
@fahimfaisalmahir567
@fahimfaisalmahir567 6 ай бұрын
Diana was divorced and had no right to get the privilege of royal protection..
@livingincaptivityIII
@livingincaptivityIII 6 ай бұрын
Respect is earned.
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 6 ай бұрын
Very true. Diana was a supernova star and Queenie did not see it.
@stephaniewilliams168
@stephaniewilliams168 5 ай бұрын
​@@mjremy2605yes
@TrojanGoddess56
@TrojanGoddess56 6 ай бұрын
Two great actresses.
@davidholiday4494
@davidholiday4494 5 ай бұрын
imelda staunton is magnificent in all her roles
@thechuckleshow2470
@thechuckleshow2470 6 ай бұрын
I highly doubt the Queen ever spoke so coldly to Diana. I feel this show is over exaggeration of these two characters. Queen might was unable to understand her but i don't think so she was that rude. Diana's character was also over exaggerated and somewhere crossed the line. She never would vote a NO for manarchy as shown in the show. She herself said in the panorama interview that how can she destroy the establishment her son's future depend upon.
@lekenaackerman9367
@lekenaackerman9367 6 ай бұрын
@thechuckleshow2470 you'd be surprised. She had her dad in her. Meaning, she was more than capable of showing emotion. She and Diana didn't really get along. But, she was the queen. 🤷🏿‍♀️
@IndependentConversations
@IndependentConversations 6 ай бұрын
I have often wondered if the feeling portrayed here by the queen were rather accurate. Prince Philip was truly mad as in effectionate for Diana continued till the divorce and she started giving public interviews and I've often wondered if Charles power with literally creating the most powerful money worth position in the royal family and his personal hostility towards her was misrepresented of the entire family. If you think I'm wrong, the last prince of Wales had roughly 1 million pounds when he left his role. He hid it of course. Now, the property incomes alone associated with the Dutchy of Cornwall are rumored to be worth billions.
@bmolitor615
@bmolitor615 5 ай бұрын
is English your second language?
@Breece284
@Breece284 6 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but the queen was absolutely trying to gaslight Diana here, she treated her awfully as much as Charles has
@justice-jb5ld
@justice-jb5ld 5 ай бұрын
This actress is great on her roll playing Diana, she also look a lot like her.
@kathleenmarykilgannon5794
@kathleenmarykilgannon5794 6 ай бұрын
I doubt any of these conversations really happened with Diana and The Queen because the princess knew what she was doing to create as much publicity as possible.
@aidengreenaway-hooper2755
@aidengreenaway-hooper2755 4 ай бұрын
The Queen Elizabeth will never be matched
@farnaz.A2000
@farnaz.A2000 19 күн бұрын
The music made this scene more powerfull and emotional...
@TadSanDiego
@TadSanDiego 6 ай бұрын
These actresses are superb. Well done.
@saraswatkin9226
@saraswatkin9226 6 ай бұрын
As the Queen said what Diane is saying is repetitive, King Charles when he was a Prince, Fergie, Megan, Harry, and probably others. If there is no time or empathy for close Family members or staff there is something sadly lacking in that institution they revere so much. People have to remember the Queen was brought up by her grandmother, Queen Mary and the Queen's mother who were extremely rigid in their 20th Century culture when marriage had to be endured whatever the circumstances. The Queen had a difficult marriage herself and she did not attend school or university so its amazing how astute and successful she was in her reign. She set a high bar for her successors to achieve. Rest in Peace Queen Elizabeth😢
@marielfalk4537
@marielfalk4537 6 ай бұрын
The queen had a tailored education by many tutors because her career was by the age of 10. She had a very successful marriage with Philip. All of the rumors of strife between the two of them are just idle gossip. They had a normal marriage and Philip was faithful to the end. accusations of affairs are simply ridiculous
@saraswatkin9226
@saraswatkin9226 6 ай бұрын
@@marielfalk4537 people like you who are continual deny of reality are the main cause of stress and problems in families. You need to do a bit more research and reading instead of looking through rose tinted glasses.
@juliaforsyth8332
@juliaforsyth8332 5 ай бұрын
I think she expected Diana to act like an adult when all she was was a selfish, damaged child.
@ilmsff7
@ilmsff7 6 ай бұрын
Calm fury from Her Majesty.
@liamjdavison
@liamjdavison 5 ай бұрын
I think it’s amazing how much they were able to make Melania look like Princess Di here.
@elizabethryan2217
@elizabethryan2217 5 ай бұрын
I think the Queen did as good a job in her role as any human could have. But she *was* human. And I think, like so many people whose priority it is to present a united front or keep a stiff upper lip, she may have got this wrong. I think she ignored relational and other problems in the hope they would go away. And they didn't. And people got even more hurt.
@kristenkaz3080
@kristenkaz3080 5 ай бұрын
It’s wasn’t hostility they felt. They felt nothing. They were callous, self serving & remote..
@jaybirddee3790
@jaybirddee3790 4 ай бұрын
Were AND are
@fredm.2699
@fredm.2699 2 ай бұрын
They are bound to duty. To serve. They don’t feel. Its the curse of the crown.
@averysamuel3719
@averysamuel3719 6 ай бұрын
Congratulations you did have time to think about your anniversary, your majesty
@thi4goelfornoto17
@thi4goelfornoto17 6 ай бұрын
Such a captivating upload.
@tashag1798
@tashag1798 6 ай бұрын
She went too far . Not fair for her children
@jennyteresia
@jennyteresia 5 ай бұрын
Yes it was an incredibly selfish thing to do to her children, esp William who was at such an awkward age. Did she even brother to tell him in person before it aired?
@soijustlistenedto...
@soijustlistenedto... 3 ай бұрын
why do i have a feeling that this conversation or parts of it never happened in real life
@kevinharris3993
@kevinharris3993 6 ай бұрын
Queen Elizabeth did not want Diana to be happy. Queen Elizabeth wanted Diana to choose service and duty over happiness. That was instilled into Queen Elizabeth from the moment she was born. Unfortunately, that was not instilled into Princess Diana. I don't think either woman was wrong. I think both women came from different eras in their life. I am 61 years old and my era was to protect the family image at all cost. So I can relate to Queen Elizabeth. However, this generation as well as Diana's generation could care less about the protection and image of the family. I have since now come to believe that there has to be a balance . If that protection is causing you unbearable pain and suffering, revealing the truth is better than a lifetime of misery. I watched my sister spiral into drugs protecting the secrets of the family. Death became her only peace.
@jhje1139
@jhje1139 6 ай бұрын
The British are cultists of the Queen, even the most poor and under the bus Britons venerate the queen, to me, very far removed from that world, think that the queenie was full of herself.
@poornimav7834
@poornimav7834 2 ай бұрын
Debiki's acting is spot on!!!
@theaussiewhinger
@theaussiewhinger 5 ай бұрын
0:49 a 3m tall Diana next to the short Queen. 😂
@87leafar
@87leafar 5 ай бұрын
Did this conversation really happend back in the day?
@josecavalcanti0912
@josecavalcanti0912 6 ай бұрын
If this conversation had really happened, I can't imagine it being any different. The remorse that followed Diana's death by the Royal family must've been dreadful to cope. Debicki and Imelda were impeccable.
@Smarterthanyew
@Smarterthanyew 20 күн бұрын
People forget that the point of the Crown was not to portray historical fact. It used history as its guide and wad really about the imagined emotional landscapes the royals exist within. Its about how they might have FELT, NOT aboyt what happened or what they did. And since they are merely human u think this series did an excellebt job of plausibly showcasing what it felt like to be in these situations. Primarily because of the absolute top drawer actors they got to depict them. Debicki is an astonishing Diana for a start, Staunton a brilliant and imperious Queen. This scene is a powerhouse of acting. Especially the climax, whete Diana says 'congratulations' getting in there the fact that the queen can boast about her long rship, but ita actually her and others' fault that Diana does not get to experience that l8ng cherished relationship. This scene had everyone thinking the queen cowed Diana, but the last lines prove the opposite. Diana does not regret, here, the interview. And ahe had the courage to tell the queen to her face. She regrets the timing, but not the doing.
@Free-flyBE
@Free-flyBE 4 ай бұрын
I have 5 grown son & can attest navigating a family; let alone a kingdom, is a bloody nightmare!
@carlosed-vd7fj
@carlosed-vd7fj 6 ай бұрын
2:29 nnnnot OONNNCE!
@joejanczak3014
@joejanczak3014 6 ай бұрын
Do they ever turn the lights on in those palaces or is it just the stage props ?
@kendalr6982
@kendalr6982 6 ай бұрын
its funny you think Elisabeth would have had more sympathy after all how many time a people did Phillip cheat on her with. How many times did she over look it since she wanted him demanded him threw a tantrum to marry him until everyone gave in. she always seemed to forget no one wanted her to marry Phillip because of the STRONG ties his family had with the Nazis as in he met the head crazy many times close. she was a great queen but like all people made a sh*t ton of mistakes. the problem was her word was law in her family if she said no you can't get married they couldn't so she broke up couples many times and then was shocked at the outcome and how they behaved like she didn't have an ounce of guilt for it when she held her breath to marry the man she wanted but couldn't allow others to do the same.
@bar78de
@bar78de 4 ай бұрын
Diana lost the feeling who she can trust and who not and Bashir took advantage of that. We all think of Diana as a loving and caring mother. But i ask you: By that interview her Boys were 13 and 11 years old. Did she do them a favour by speaking like that publicly? I dont think so....
@Yo19724
@Yo19724 3 ай бұрын
Obviously she didn't think about her boys at all, when she gave this interview
@fahimfaisalmahir567
@fahimfaisalmahir567 3 ай бұрын
William had stopped talking to Diana and Charles for a long time after that interview. He had to listen a lot from people bcz of that interview.
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 27 күн бұрын
Very well said! Diana may have loved her sons but unfortunately she was a bad influence on them.
@AmyAboshelbaia
@AmyAboshelbaia Ай бұрын
Any talks have seen him in that series I am pretty sure 😮 just conversation heard them inside the palace not really sure about the correct happened or not 😅❤
@philzmusic8098
@philzmusic8098 6 ай бұрын
I know this is pure fiction, but the idea that the Queen is too busy to spare even 10 minutes with her daughter-in-law is a feeble excuse.
@nassauguy48
@nassauguy48 6 ай бұрын
The Queen was already used to dealing with difficult relatives from an early point. Her sister, Princess Margaret, was more than a handful.
@Essenceofblood5238
@Essenceofblood5238 5 ай бұрын
As were her sons... well, 2 of them, anyway. Lol
@ditto1051
@ditto1051 6 ай бұрын
The palace made Diana out to be an attention seeking monster. Diana's relationship with Charles was abusive and the sooner she escaped the better. RIP Diana.
@juliaforsyth8332
@juliaforsyth8332 5 ай бұрын
Diana was abusive to everyone around. Charles loved and still loves Camilla. Diana wrecked marriages and had it off with as much as she could. Sweet Diana? No wa.
@BradHerdman-s7b
@BradHerdman-s7b 5 ай бұрын
The Queen is bound by honour and duty to her people and her commonwealth. Or as Richard III ( always signed on his letters ) honour and loyalty binds me. This is the backbone of the English Monarchy ( well, it was anyway ) . Queen Elizabeth II as did Queen Elizabeth I devoted her entire life to the crown and its people. Princess Diana was not the same , she was of an entirely different era. She gave her love freely and was always compassionate to everyone, but when it wasn't returned in kind , well we all know what happened. Prince Charles and yes I still say Prince ( he will never be a King ) was a spoiled little dandy . Just like his paedophile of a brother. Thinking you are above everyone else, simply does not make it so. Diana was an angel , unfortunately not deserving of us.
@shadysorkin9214
@shadysorkin9214 5 ай бұрын
Defence out of obligation and not love is sort of irrelevant.
@sarianoob
@sarianoob 5 ай бұрын
Bedankt voor de geweldige video! 🇳🇱
@johnryman-f3c
@johnryman-f3c 3 ай бұрын
Diana was not the sharpest knife in the drawer& she ends up dating the son of the owner of Harrods, she liked to shop when it was closed
@ursaltydog
@ursaltydog 5 ай бұрын
She said everyone wishes her to be happy... yet, a few moments before she recounted she always defended her to everyone... everyone who? The Queen really did hide away from speaking with her and others over the years. Avoided difficulties. She wasn't busy all the time.. She had quite a bit of free time, if she thought Diana of importance.
@fahimfaisalmahir567
@fahimfaisalmahir567 4 ай бұрын
Diana wasn’t important to her
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 3 ай бұрын
What a range of opinions we have here on what was going on in that scene! Do they have much to do with what was said there, or what we know of the real events, or do they depend more on who and what we are ourselves?
@LesPaul2006
@LesPaul2006 Ай бұрын
2:51 And she realized she messed up, big time.
@melelmo2600
@melelmo2600 5 ай бұрын
Did Charles tell Diana that he didn't love her? "One of the most shocking things that Diana told me was the night before the wedding, Charles told her that he didn't love her," Thornton told an ITV documentary titled 'The Diana Interview: Revenge of a Princess'. "And that was truly a terrible thing to do to your bride. Feb 22, 2024
@DreamWeaver4465
@DreamWeaver4465 4 ай бұрын
It just dawn on me she died at the age of 36. All these happened when she was in her twenties and thirties, a young woman vs the whole system. I know this scene is fiction, but I recalled in previous seasons, she called the queen on the phone so many times, but the queen avoided her. Once in Balmoral, she refused to talk to her because she need to feed her dog. And all those times, when the queen talked to Margaret, they nicknamed her "The neighbour" and here in this scene, she claimed she defended her all the times. What a hypocrite.
@BNCA70
@BNCA70 5 ай бұрын
I kinda agree with the Queen here, but I imagine her courtiers and advisers were doing their best to stir things up and make life difficult for the princess & the Queen. If only families didn't have press advisers eh?
@shaneedaniel5125
@shaneedaniel5125 2 ай бұрын
48 years of marriage to Phillip says the queen arrogantly to Diana BUT Phillip had affairs during their marriage. The Queen might accept that her family generational lines were full of extra marital affairs but Diana did not accept that for herself, and so she should not have to. Diana fought Camilla with no ones help. The fact that Charles and Camilla resumed their love affair after Diana died says it all. Charles had no backbone.
@angelbeats71
@angelbeats71 2 ай бұрын
What music is playing throughout this scene? Does anyone know?
@jasong9774
@jasong9774 5 ай бұрын
I've been on both sides of scenarios like this and I can say emphatically that when presumptions are made, everyone fails, but if someone only hears bad and there is an air of polite disrespect and prior instances of the same within a gossip circle, then it really isn't unreasonable to feel insecure in those matters. Like telling someone you are humble, telling someone you fight for them when they couldn't possibly know comes across as silly in those circumstances where you can honestly say, "then you should have told me that and praised me in public." BTW, there are more facets here and this is not about the interview; which was foolish in my view, but this *only* focuses on what should be done up front. Demanding trust only God can is never a good call. We have to be more blunt and visible.
@justmyopinion3764
@justmyopinion3764 4 ай бұрын
Did Diana not curtsey to the Queen when she walked into the room????
@LuPeres-l6g
@LuPeres-l6g 2 ай бұрын
I understand how the Queen felt but also l understand how Diana felt too. She felt unloved and not respected at all. I find it was a marriage that should of never happened for both sides. It affected everyone especially the children William and Harry. Extremely sad.😢
@goldengalsclazy
@goldengalsclazy 11 күн бұрын
I think they both have valid points. She felt unheard by HM. I don't think anyone could've prevented the divorce. Charles was most likely never in love with her.
@s.g2344
@s.g2344 5 ай бұрын
Nah i there was always something slippery about Diana- i never could put my finger on it but personally all the charity event and hospital visits were for show especially after they got divorced. I always felt sorry for Charles more i personally think he was pushed into the marriage more than Diana - she could of always said no. I dunno she always seemed to 'have butter wont melt' look and personality to me. Unlike Kate who you can tell is geninue and not playing up for the cameras 😊
@frtlockhart
@frtlockhart 5 ай бұрын
different generations will give a different response
@htstevo
@htstevo 6 ай бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the definition of gaslighting. RIP Diana, you deserved so much better than those ennui- filled, over privileged cold false figureheads.
@fahimfaisalmahir567
@fahimfaisalmahir567 6 ай бұрын
Diana never deserved a prince.
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei 5 ай бұрын
It was her choice. Nobody held a gun to Diana's head. I wouldn't want to take on one of my sister's cast-offs.
@MizzSparkle90
@MizzSparkle90 5 ай бұрын
Imelda NAILED this!!
@robertcarnline4473
@robertcarnline4473 5 ай бұрын
Do we still think the Royal Family has nothing to do with Diana's death?
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei 5 ай бұрын
There were two lengthy inquests: one in Paris and one in London. The family who was to blame for the deaths is the Fayed family. There should have been an escort vehicle. The chauffeur was proven to be drunk. The car was in poor condition. The only survivor was the bodyguard who was the only person wearing a seatbelt and should have insisted that everyone else wore theirs. The chauffeur was goading the paparazzi . . . the list goes on. The Royal family had no idea where Diana was, but thought she was on her way back to London to spend a couple of days with her sons before they returned to school. At the time of the accident, Charles had access and the boys were spending the summer at Balmoral as they did every August.
@israelh2638
@israelh2638 6 ай бұрын
The poor queen had to deal with drunk Margaret, the mentally unstable Diana and then the most horrible of all the narcissist Nutmeg. May the queen RIP
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 6 ай бұрын
On the contrary. The Queen shafted Margaret by preventing her happy marriage to Peter Townsend, Equerry (Aide de Camp) to her father, while banishing him to a distant post never to see Margaret again. She drove Margaret to drink. Margaret was more beautiful and would have made a much better Queen being smart, saucy, pretty, and very charismatic as opposed to stodgy Elizabeth. More hypocrisy by Queenie when her daughter Anne, married the Equerry to Queen Elizabeth, Mark Phillips. The exact scenario again but this time Elizabeth did not prevent the marriage by threatening to cut off Anne from the royal family and funds if she married an Equerry. How's that for hypocrisy? Elizabeth was a terrible mother to Charles, who grew up very unhappy with little contact from his mother. She forced Charles to marry Diana who he did not love, and give up Camilla, who was the love of his life. This caused a huge rift between Diana and Charles. Diana divorced him, and was so desperately unhappy with royal servants spying on her and reporting back to Queenie, and being made to follow Charles around and not be free. This caused her to escape to other places and caused her demise. Charles ended up marrying Camilla after she was divorced from her husband. So now, Charles married a divorcee, but became king. How ironic because King Edward, Duke of Windsor had to abdicate when he married a divorcee. Isn't that bald faced hypocrisy by Queenie? Charles should be disqualified from being king since he married a divorcee too. Right? For all her disapproval of Diana, Queenie did not realize that her own star was dimmed by the brilliant light of Diana in the public relations dept. Diana was a supernova star on the world stage. Elizabeth paled by comparison. Diana could do more for the royal family than all the other members combined. She was never utilized for PR, given any respect, and made happy. So very stup*id of Queenie. Diana was never mentally unstable. She was a rock of endurance and tenacity. The Queen also was responsible for splitting up Fergie and Andrew who still love each other, and still live under one roof while being divorced on paper to suit the Queen. Andrew ended up a Pedo, and guess who brought him up? Yes, Your Queenie. Pedo son. But she forgave him and paraded him in visible royal public events. Hmmm. Finally, not having done enough mischief and damage to people's lives, Queenie managed to ruin her grandson's life with his new wife, Meghan. Harry was the spare, it mattered not one bit who he married. But nasty racist stuff about Meghan was published to the press by Charles, William, Camilla with Queenie's approval. This was a young couple starting out on their life, deeply in love, Meghan was a few years older and had the right mothering touch for Harry who lost his mum early in life. Meghan was a brilliant PR move for the royal family because she was non-White and this was a way to connect to all non-White people from previous colonies and empires. Meghan was the new Diana in fact. If Queenie had been smart and seen that, she would have used Meghan & Harry for all the tours in places like India, Africa, South America, etc. You had two sets of young royals: Will & Kate, Harry & Meg that would have injected life back into a dying institution that is more a habit than a need or desire. But again, Elizabeth showed poor judgement and banished them into exile, cutting off all funding and even security for their family. Absolutely damning move. A very politically damaging move too. Now you have Kate with cancer occupying William, and no Harry as backup, and Charles too old to do anything, with a wife everyone has not forgiven. See how badly this Queenie rules? Meghan is not a Narcissist. She is a self made, hard working woman who became a successful actress and has now snagged a top royal as her husband. She has made a lovely family, they support themselves with no parasitic living off British taxpayers. She has a loving relationship with her mother, Doria, and has cut off her half siblings and father who are frankly an embarrassment to themselves and trying to make money off her fame. Her sister, Samantha wrote a nasty book about Meghan for no reason at all. Did Meghan do anything to any of them? No. She kept to herself and she has a right to choose her friends. They have no right to defame her and Harry. Harry won his lawsuit against the British press, which proves they wrote lies. Anything else you want to be combative about? You are short on facts, and big on myths. Wake up and adjust to reality. The queen was a political disaster. She had no head for leadership or knowing who would be the best political allies in the royal family. She chased away three brilliant stars: Margaret, Diana, Meghan. She probably felt threatened by each of them. She tried to destroy them. Margaret died so conflicted. She loved her sister, but her sister tore up her romance. Diana died hounded by the press and made to look like the wandering wife, when in fact, it was Charles who was wandering into Camilla's garden. Meghan came with so much hope and wanting to please the royals, but she was humiliated, snubbed, and disrespected by them all till Harry had to leave to save his marriage. So, how smart is that for a political ruler whose only job is PR for the press? Elizabeth was a useless ruler and lousy leader.
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei 5 ай бұрын
@@mjremy2605 Margaret reached the age where she could marry Townsend without permission. I think you forget that back in the day divorce was a scandal, and Townsend was divorced. The rules were changed earlier this century when not only Margaret but three of the Queen's children divorced. Townsend was sent away for a couple of years until Margaret reached the age where she could make the decision without permission. He returned and they were talking about marriage. However, Margaret understood that she would have to give up her title and entitlements to marry a divorcee, and felt that her lifestyle was more important than Townsend. Margaret most certainly would not have made a better queen. She had no sense of duty and life was just one long party for her. She took a trip to America and was roundly criticised by the Americans for her lengthy partying sessions.The monarch needs to be as you described QEII - not a party girl who was frequently drunk and didn't get out of bed every day until midday. She had charities she had to work for, but didn't seem to be bothered. Anne could marry an Equerry because neither party was divorced. There's a difference. The objection wasn't the equerry. It was the divorced equerry. In the day, divorcees weren't acceptable in society.
@VenosEvans
@VenosEvans 4 ай бұрын
​@@mjremy2605 Diana was unstable and cheated on Charles like million times.
@VenosEvans
@VenosEvans 4 ай бұрын
​@@mjremy2605 Diana cheated on Charles like million times
@terryhutchings7701
@terryhutchings7701 4 ай бұрын
TMI here, but shortly after Diana was killed, I realized how unhappy I was in my own marriage and finally got divorced. Things can change in an instant, don’t waste a single moment being unhappy.
@donquixotemom
@donquixotemom 5 ай бұрын
What a well written scene
@saraneuss4089
@saraneuss4089 6 ай бұрын
She did it in secret. This scene is not real
@jasonkoch3182
@jasonkoch3182 6 ай бұрын
Yes, correct. This is a fictional television show.
@NatalieRabuzin
@NatalieRabuzin 6 ай бұрын
No...my understanding was this did actually happen...Diana even arranged the broadcast date as a surprise for the then prince Charles birthday and the queen and prince philips anniversary...
@Smarterthanyew
@Smarterthanyew 20 күн бұрын
Ffs the Veown is not aupposed to be depicting real scenes from their lives. How would they without heavy involvement from the royals? People who keep saying this are missing the point of the series, which is an attempt to imagine what it all kudt hace FELT LIKE. The emotional aspects of their trials and tribulations. It is not, nor does it claim to be, a documentary
@joaquinpraveenvishnu8509
@joaquinpraveenvishnu8509 5 ай бұрын
Im no longer a royalist. Once the events of Aug 31, 1997 occured, something in me made to lose respect and admiration for the crown
@tiddlywinks2004
@tiddlywinks2004 5 ай бұрын
Why? Do you think they are responsible for a drunk driver getting behind the wheel of a car and driving 100 kph through city streets?
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei 5 ай бұрын
The family responsible for Diana's death was found to be the Fayed family - as well as the paparazzi.
@kentexas
@kentexas 2 ай бұрын
Diana was clinically depressed and her perceptions were skewed. But hostility from her husband was not fabricated in her head. Charles own words confirmed alienation. Perhaps Diana’s issues led her to over generalize.
@AVERYCK77
@AVERYCK77 5 ай бұрын
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