Diatone Roma35 // Not Sub250 Gram // Grunty

[@filiped7298]

I know drones have come a long way in terms of flight behavior, but Nick your flying is perfect at this point. Having witnessed your progress for the last 2 years or so. Great job 👏

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Wow thank you. I have enjoyed my fpv and KZbin journey

[@randymulhern1290]

Due to the size of those motors, those arms need to be at least 4mm thick. Or make them replaceable.

[@jhughes2286]

Yup the extra weight is probably why it broke an arm, gonna pass on this one.

[@ChrisParayno]

This is one I wasn't expecting in your backyard just based on motor size😆😆. Awesome stuff🔥

[@kurtzFPV]

His neighbors are definitely way cooler than mine.

[@jhughes2286]

I think he goes by prop size, 4 inches or less.

[@ChrisParayno]

@@jhughes2286 you are correct, but this quad is just crazy

[@drunkskunk00]

Great review! I just don't get Diatone's thinking here. I thought the point of 3.5" was getting the most performance out of a sub-250 gram quad. Since 4" was just a bit too big, and 3" left a little bit of meat on the bone, we had 3.5". Maybe I'm way off here. That looks like a great quad, but wouldn't it be better at 4"? Like a little more prop, and a little beefier frame to support those motors?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I talked to them lastnight. Trying to get them to change the motor size to a more traditional 3inch motor. We shall see.

[@JunaidHassan-junaidslife]

Love your videos Nick! Have learnt so much and made decisions based on your reviews. Noticed how you dropped a lot of weight in the last few weeks, hope everything is well. Stay safe my friend!

[@cyborgpirate5882]

Interesting…. I had an extra frame kit for my Babyhawk 2 HD lying around. So I ended up ordering the Xing 2203.5 3600KV motors with the F7 beast AIO to do a build like this. That was before I saw this video. The parts all arrived yesterday. So I will be curious to compare my big motor Babyhawk 2 compared to your review.

[@willpowerfpv3246]

Great breakdown, Nick! Diatone is shipping out my HD version tomorrow. Ridiculous is in my wheelhouse, so I should have fun with this extreme set up. Got a couple 6s 900mah and a couple 700mah gnb yellow labels to try out. Thanks for the review! 🙏🏻

[@flushfpv]

hey nick. i built my own. i put a vista with a iflight f4 blitz stack. i use 4s 1300 batteries. its bmy best back yard basher. and as allways love your vidios.

[@jacobosannicolas3884]

Hi, thank you for the review. Unibody doesn't seen to be the good choose ....also not hitting the 250g is a bit nonsense 🙄!. In my view and according to your input why not something like 1507 or even 1804 like Dave C is proposing as motor size on the Rekon FR 4 inch ? ..thank you very useful

[@moreluckthanjudgement8007]

Great video, sir. I agree that the 22xx motors is an odd choice.

[@meganeto994]

I think the reason for 22xx motor is for better cooling to the motor

[@MCsCreations]

You know what, Nick? This frame, with those motors, but with an AIO board with ELRS... And maybe a RunCam Split 4... 🤔 It should be as good as a 5"! 😂 Anyway, fantastic flying and review!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@KOrnhOliO1]

I thought Albert said it best... 250 grams is not worth worrying about. A cop is never going to come up to you and weigh your quad! Cops have way more important things to do. So, 250 grams is an imaginary requirement! Well, unless you start seeing cops with a gun holstered on one hip, and a scale holstered on the other! Lol 😂😳🙄

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Never is a big word, and maybe cops never will. We could see other personnel tasked with the policing duty, say parks and rec people, or giving local FAA licensed pilots the authority. Who really knows at this point.

[@kurtzFPV]

Probably more important in a lot of EU countries than here, at least right now.

[@FpvBudgetBuilds]

Great review as always. "Everybody loves a good crash" 😆. Monster motors and a 6s really increases that punch out.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I expected more from the punchouts. I think we can get a bigger punchout from say the likes of the GTR349 from a year ago.

[@FpvBudgetBuilds]

@@NickBurnsFPV yes indeed some real punchouts with that one. That was a bit before I started fpv. I was still flying POV quads then. The changes that happen so fast in this hobby are nothing short of amazing.

[@nullx8]

i did build me one with Air Unit and 1606 motors, that's already overkill ... recipe for disaster :) .. but hey, that's why we buy them anyway .. :) but yeah the top plate is fefentlu "in danger" on a crash, at the Roma F5 the distance is pretty far to the next row so the top plate can bend up easy, but at the F35 its just 1ish cm, that's probably too close to absorb al the energy on impact.

[@thfpv4974]

Great review !! I have built a couple of 3inch with 1607 both of them scream 😱 I really like this quadcopter might need to pick one up ...thanks again 🥂😎💯

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

I like this one though.. I really think the 3.5" needs a lil bigger motor than 1404.

[@adamurban143]

This thing is huge! :o (I have mobula6 so I guess everything seems to be huge compared to it...)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, yea its a monster. I should have used the overhead camera for recording, but I don't like its optics when looking down on the desk

[@quadroneld]

At 1:10 that reaction during the flight is beautiful!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, yea, really wipped around much further than I expected.

[@PeugeotL-vd2le]

Hi nick I still really liked this review as always but I do prefer your usual style with the quick specs and battery size at the start, makes it really easy when buying the quad after the review to go back and see what battery size to get.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

But then the surprise of it being broken and how it got broken is ruined :)

[@PeugeotL-vd2le]

@@NickBurnsFPV haha fair enough 😂

[@KernsJW]

Yeah, those look like overkill for motors and thats loud too! Maybe switching up the props will help.

[@donomar5407]

Hello friend, what do you think of this drone with brother hobby 1504.5 motors for 4s?, I am building it myself, greetings and thanks for your videos

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The lighter motors will help bring the weight down into normal weight.

[@donomar5407]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for answering, regards.

[@Vitroid]

I'm considering building one of my own, but with tamer motors, probably 1606, should that work fine?

[@volkergoe]

Much better choice! I found 1505 are the sweet spot for 3.5 props, if you want a lot of power and fast reaction go for 1408s

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Some of the fastest drones ever speed tested were the Diatone GTR349 and other very similar models. I think they were clocked at somewhere around 115 mph! They used 1408 motors and are 4 motor rockets! So, I think 1606 would be overkill. 😎🤘

[@dannygaron]

I have the frame coming in the mail and throwing my gtr369 guts in it for fun. 6S stupidity coming up 😁

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@Sco0t Rot0R YES!, the GTR349 is a rocket, the ER349 I still have which is nearly identical. I think AndyRC did speed tests when that came out. I would very much like to see Diatone come out with a new iteration of the 349, something maybe in a traditional long bodied x design. Give us the ability to mount an HD camera if we wanted.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@NickBurnsFPV yup, I still have my ER349 also. Companies need to continue to make those great drones as they are just as good today as they were the very first day they were released. F4 FC's are still common and supported fully, 1408 motors are still great, that Runcam Swift camera still gives a superb image, and the TBS VTX is still made. Just because a quad had been out a year or more doesn't make it bad. In fact, those are better than 3/4 of the brand new drones that are coming out today! Especially when I paid less for my "Rocket Ship 349" than they want for the overpriced brand new Emax whatever X @ a whopping $139.99 ! 😳 Maybe Diatone should just update those quads and, for example, make it an F7, changer the frame slightly, make the new VTX go up to 800mw, newer camera, etc. ( hard to change much because it was so good). New guys don't get to see those best of the best drones unless they go back in the archives. Then, even if they do, they've stopped making it! A shame. 😎🤘

[@PhilipSAndrews]

My 4 inch Gecko dose that only on 6S, but throw a 5S on the punch is a lot better. Think 6s just flattens the props. But 5s the thrust is quick. Maybe try a 5s.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Dang, now I have to go more batteries :)

[@quadfather504fpv9]

Gotta love that power 👍👍

[@MeHitDrum]

Just purchased the 6S version w/out camera/vtx. I plan to switch motors with my Shocker 4” motors (2004-3150KV) I think that’ll be a better fit. Thoughts??

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That kv of motor seems high for 6s. Are you sure those are 6s motors?

[@MeHitDrum]

@@NickBurnsFPV Aloha Nick, you’re right the 2004’s are 4S…on the F35, I thought they’d make it handle a bit better…and hopefully the larger 6S motors would be at home on the 4” CMW Shocker with an 850mAh batt. Does that make sense…more of an experiment than anything.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@MeHitDrum ah I do understand a bit. I can't say I could say how it might fly, I don't have much experience with motors in the 200x category.

[@AKtoTok]

Want this thing so badddd.. looks so fun 🤩

[@johncarold]

Hi Nick YEP Great video on the Diatone ROMA35 , I like it but I don't care for the weight of it. I would have liked to have seen it lighter. Especially since it's only a 3.5in quad. I can't believe that you broke the arm. LOL. Well everything is breakable. Thanks again for the video and information.

[@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398]

That's a true review when your going over the specs and the motor is dangling around on a broken arm. 👍

[@3DMOFO2020]

Maybe this frame could work as a custom build 3 inch build with some brotherhobby 1504.5 3950kv motors swinging either 3inch or 3.5 props with a 4s 650 or 850 lipo instead of a 6s huh Nick? Great job on the flight I'll take a pass on this quad since I already ordered a Avio 3 HD from AdvantQuads thanks for the discount code Nick.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Diatone is considering changing the motor, we shall see.

[@3DMOFO2020]

@@NickBurnsFPV Or you can just do a a special build yourself Nick?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I might, I should have motors to try it out on. It’s all about time to try something different

[@3DMOFO2020]

@@NickBurnsFPV Totally understandable Nick.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@3DMOFO2020 its funny, In the moment of that comment I forgot I broke an arm. Certainly not putting new motors on this particular frame :)

[@Sully365]

i can't fathom why you'd go with a 2203 over a 1406....i can't imagine why have such a wide motor?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think the premise of the wide short motor is missed on this one. Wider generally meant low weight with greater efficiency. This one likely does have more effciency than a traditional 3inch on 140x-160x motor but the weight is off setting that to some degree, maybe a lot.

[@BenBlue__]

Thanks for another fun review. Looks like you misstyped Diatone in the title of the video.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. I have corrected my mistake.

[@ChadKovac]

I was just thinking to put some 2207's on a 3 and 1/2 in.. lol

[@KcFpv..]

I think more of us are interested in the HD version!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I suspect that is hard to get with the camera shortage. I wonder if Diatone sent any HD versions out for review.

[@MrLaserpowered]

"So much sand in its pants", spit my drink out laughing 😃.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, you like that. One of those old country sayings I used to hear.

[@MCsCreations]

Anakin would hate that. 😬

[@Shauny_D]

That cup of screws just gave every ocd person nightmares haha!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, I do have organized kits, but I go to the leftover cup first unless its a long screw I need.

[@flipfpv]

"Well, Geez-o-Pete." 😂

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. Poor ole Pete :)

[@junebugpetty7386]

Does this come stock with Betaflight or Emuflight

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The one I have came stock with Emu flight. They have another version coming with different motors and esc. I don't have it yet, but I have been told its on the way.

[@dmarriodavis9588]

Killing it again man.. great vid

[@PropDusting]

I have not purchased this one because of the carbon being so thin. I believe that it has too much motor for the carbon frame.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I wonder if there will be a revision after the market get their hands on it.

[@PropDusting]

@@NickBurnsFPV I hope so! I love the idea of a small, over-powered quad but, it needs some more meat in the frame for sure.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@PropDusting Spoke to them lastnight, made a few suggestions....we shall see.

[@PropDusting]

@@NickBurnsFPV Nice!! Thanks!!!

[@Editer38738]

Your really good man

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you

[@trajanfpv]

Looks like fun Overkill.

[@SMCleaning]

Nick, it's DIATONE

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Sorry, I have it corrected now.

[@michaelmatthews6421]

That was an awesome crash!

[@RubyS.1]

I like that thing

[@Tump2010]

from watching/listening the puch outs the thing is a boat anchor, 6s and only punched out like that??? wow. My 4s 3" punches out SO much more than this did with a 6s. Those motors look like they weigh a lb each

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Watching it back I had similar thoughts the GTR349 was faster and had huge punchouts.

[@yannickg6904]

This is like the Tim Taylor version of a 3.5'' quad. More powerrrrr, arrrgh, arrrgh,arrrgh.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. I wonder how many don't know Tim Taylor.

[@yannickg6904]

@@NickBurnsFPV Lol, we're old Nick.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@yannickg6904 But young at heart!

[@yannickg6904]

How does the saying go again? "Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional". We're living proof of that!

[@aliasrandom9241]

what's up with your eyebrows Nick?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I dunno. Maybe the photoshop cropped a brow?

[@johnlheneghan1630]

Get the JB Weld out, lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, and some flat iron :)

[@ozaricblox]

Diatone is the reason why my wife's going to divorce me. I've got every entry from the roma series. Ive just brought the f1 and now this has come out she's going to kill me hahahahahaha.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah surely not.

[@ozaricblox]

She's a good one really, enjoys being the co-pilot Haha she has the fatshark recon. Seriously though diatone have hit the mark with the roma series, they're worth the money and its really hard to say no. I'm just annoyed I missed out on the gt r349 one quad I really wish I brought.

[@Vitroid]

I'm slowly gonna build up a diatone fleet too if someone doesn't stop me. Got a custom F5 and a tinawhoop, gonna build the F35 with less overkill motors, and I am still hopeful for a diatone Roma L7, maybe someday

[@pirateradioFPV]

Yeah, when your motor is mismatched with the prop or the weight of the quad, the motor has the capability to stop the quad in the air very effectively. The UL5" class suffers of the same problem, the quad stops on a dime for sure but it also won't float over anything, making it really annoying to fly. But hey, if muppets say this is the way to go, then the manufacturers will listen to the muppets. I will, still, say that the quest to make everything to fly like a 5" based on charts is for the idiots. But what do I know. I just try these things instead of instantly recommending something based on a spreadsheet.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

What is really interesting to me is it doesn't happen on each float over the house. I would think it would be consistent, but maybe is has to do with the prop speed when we kill the throttle. ??

[@pirateradioFPV]

​@@NickBurnsFPV Yeah, you can alleviate it a little by pushing the idle up but it will never feel "right" or the way we've used to it feeling like. They track like they're on rails which is why they're fun for racing style cruising but for freestyle cruising with a lot of punch outs, not so much. They just lack the fun factor of the traditional setups. I tried really hard to figure out what they'd be good for and only thing I could come up with are the cinestyle setups where you actually appreciate the control and don't need the float. But that field already has overcompetition as all the manufacturers want a piece of that "CINEMATIC FPV" cake :)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@pirateradioFPV Very good. Sounds like you have been around and around with this

[@bossanova]

Honestly: Who cares about weight in the real World? Well if you want to fly in a garden take small whoop with lousy motors. If you want to ride an insane BMW - take this one, get out on a lonely area and ride the sh** out of it! Great Motors - that's not for sightseeing.

[@hcsabai1224]

Too heavy and fragile. Nice crash😀

[@francescomele2114]

which 6s batteries do you recommend?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have only used 2 brands of 6s batteries. Tattu and GNB

[@francescomele2114]

@@NickBurnsFPV how many mAh do you recommend?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@francescomele2114 around 1100mah, but smaller will gain agility, overall this quad is heavy and not very agile.

[@francescomele2114]

@@NickBurnsFPV have 6s 1000mAh 100c batteries, can they fit?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@francescomele2114 yea those will work.