Dice Control vs Random Throw : Part 2

[@hiroller5040]

I'm dice controller and I knew KD was gonna get wrecked. He'd been waiting weeks, maybe months for this and one of the worst things you can do is hit the table when you're excited/anxious. During the first few years of dice setting I noticed I was always doing horrible on my first few rounds. I would always hit the table right when I got to the casino. Fast forward a few years and I will no longer hit the table immediately. Being relaxed before you throw is important

[@tonimartin6167]

Not true, I do much better when I'm not relaxed

[@yomamaso100]

I always go have dinner then walk around the strip before I hit the tables

[@onesneak7668]

The tone in the pros voice completely changed. Lol someone's mad. Casinos love this man. They love it when you think you can control anything

[@buddyc859]

What exatcly happened at 8:38 ? I could tell there was alot of tension in dc. Kinda a awkward moment but what was the stick man trying to do and why did dc get upset. ?

[@xxchet22xx]

Last roll was a 7. I think the stick man was trying to roll one of the dice so he wouldn't give them to the shooter with a 7 showing. The stick man inadvertently hit the die too hard and shot it against the mirror, causing KD to react negatively.

[@MrLeviaFUN]

He got exposed badly. He talks the talk, but his "skill" is nowhere to be found. Thanks Color Up

[@darrellq6954]

He had an "off day".......Even Barry Bonds had a few 0-4 days.....lol

[@mikerentz5495]

He threw fewer 7's than Color Up and isn't that the goal? Yes, they came at poor times, but, he did throw fewer.

[@JoeFerber]

@@mikerentz5495 NO, the goal WAS OVERALL, who can make MORE points, throw MORE box numbers and MORE rolls, and that's why Jeremy WAS the winner!

[@chrisanderson4044]

Hahah I’ve been waiting for this part two for ages! This dude got exposed hard. Thank you so much for doing this little series.

[@ColorUp]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@chrisanderson4044]

Color Up yeah great idea for a craps video I’m not sure there is another video like this on KZbin

[@johnaustinbankston2094]

I really enjoyed this two-part video. I like the fact that you partnered up with another dice expert. This is a really cool video. I can tell you put a lot of time into these videos. I like how you’re tracking the numbers down on the screen. This is a really professional looking video and you’re doing a great job. I’ll continue to watch these videos.

[@ColorUp]

Appreciate the feedback

[@JoeFerber]

Jeremy is an MFG JUST like me!

[@Adambikesrochester]

I love reading these comments, "he's having a bad day." "I use DI and I have good days and bad days" I think you mean you're like everyone else and have "lucky days" and "unlucky days" but feel it necessary to slow the flow of the game to set dice. Physics. It's sad that it's an optional course in highschools.

[@paul311emain]

You have to be careful with a name like DICE KING and lose two times over. Ouch. Feel for him.

[@REPSDirect]

I was at a big casino last night where I watched 3 shooters at a craps table and one setting dice when I walked up. I don't know how long he'd been shooting before I appeared but I watched him roll 12 times before he sevened-out, making thousands of dollars for everyone. The guy at the other end of the table was betting $100 chips and let hit numbers ride, and when they hit again he'd take down both winnings and let the original bet stand. He had three long rows of $5, $25 and $100 chips on his rail. The dice setter hit lots of doubles.

[@lindafoxwood9091]

Great video. There is a way to Set the dice faster and fluidly faster: Practice setting the dice. You have a 3 on one dice, you see a 4 on the other dice? The 3 is on the back side. If you can get your set instantly set in 1 second - you have more time to throw.

[@tonimartin6167]

King of dice is a perfect shoter to play the "don't pass"

[@cashierscage]

Actually, even though Color-up meant well & is NOT trying to “ expose” King Dice in any way, shape, form, or fashion....... he INADVERTENTLY showed others that all that glitters ain’t gold, & that you have to be very mindful of those that Preach Dice Influencing IN THE WAY that King preaches it ( being a sport, you’re an athlete, building an army of skilled shooters, making Dice Influencing an Olympic Soort, etc)! Remain cognizant of those that speak in forked Tongue, EVEN IF THEY ARE GENUINELY NICE GUYS ( which I truly believe King is)! The guy is simply Dice Influencing ON STEROIDS!!!!

[@Dmartinez9959]

Love the excuses, lol 😂

[@Shadow-zw4hp]

It craps, the dice make the decisions. Consistency of form could somewhat give a trend to the results. But in the end, nothing can be totally controlled once the items leave the hand.

[@HawaiianAttitude]

agree whole heartedly!

[@Ruralyouth95]

This video is important. First I was like Color Up do all this learn like a vet but then claim rookie. But nah, this man know exactly what he’s doing. Prob the best video on the subject s/o KD 💯

[@jamesm710]

Anyone can set the dice, but not too many can threw the dice consistently to the same location with the same force.

[@JoeFerber]

Yep!

[@ericmadeoftin8206]

I loved the part where after completely failing to control any thing, even his lame excuses, he finally gets together a measly eight rolls, and announces, as far as rolling seven's is concerned, "he's done with that". Then immediately rolls a 7.

[@edgarb4100]

Bahahaha

[@hennizar9757]

@@edgarb4100 yea i immediately knew it was up ha

[@FISHINGUSA2025]

A dice controller is someone that fights against reality 😂

[@TigburtJones]

And wins

[@trickshotbros6765]

When a dice controller is only trying to shift the house edge by a few percent there’s really not a drastic difference between a random role and a controlled roll the goal is you play long enough you win. Primm has the short tables and the girls running the dice when I went didn’t even care if you hit the back wall I was rolling hardways left and right!

[@gusmaschmann]

This guy is hilarious. Proof that dice control isn’t real.

[@JoseGarcia-bw9go]

This is a great video. You can tell he I was getting frustrated and was just complaining. I agree with him sometimes it is not his day. I think control rollers are real but believe you have to be in the zone to win big. I have been on a table with a control roller and I won $400 because of him.

[@shahmatsimplex4144]

All that counts is taking the money from the casinos in the long run; not be a hot shot craps shooter on youtube.

[@usoolive1]

Man, lol - feel so bad for him. Thanks for the content again Color!

[@derekrancourt2725]

60% of the time, it works every time. HAHAHA

[@juangonzalez3499]

Got the popcorn and a 6 pack of beer 🍺 waiting impatiently

[@cashierscage]

Heh, Color up, I actually read your comment in Part 1 that most of these Dice Influencers would not go on camera!!! Well, you are right! The smart ones won’t......for fear of falling flat on their face, & that includes myself with almost 12 yrs of practice, Casino sessions, & experience. It’s NOT that “ some” cannot influence the dice. It’s simply that influence is so close to random that it’s really hard to discern between variance, & skill. Just as the Card Counter with a 2% advantage, can have many losing sessions, so it is ...with the Skilled Shooter. Only difference is that the Smart Skilled Shooters don’t go on camera trying to promote Dice Influencing & teaching others UNLESS there’s a hidden agenda ( usually $$), although I DO realize that King just enjoys the camaraderie & teaching! The guys that are really successful at Dice Influencing go about their business blending in with the crowd, losing some, winning some, but because of MAYBE a 2% advantage.... remaining on the positive side of the ledger. No making mortgage payments from Casino winnings. No Car payments, or Vacationing off of Casino winnings. Simply a little something extra $$$$ from time to time. You see..... Dice Influencing is NOT what a lot of these guys teach. It’s not a magic bullet, or Holy Grail. It’s simply a craft wherein you toss as perfectly as possible, tossing in tandem with accuracy IN THE HOPE that you’ll receive favorable outcomes when the dice finally come to rest!!! You see.... what occurs in “ Real time” ( the dice SEEMINGLY hitting & dropping dead) to the Naked eye is NOT what REALLY happens during a dice toss, & this is why Stanford Wong ( one of the most respected Casino gamblers) backed off of Dice Influencing & removed it from his Black Jack forum as beatable Casino games. Yeah, we all know that Wong also stopped practicing Dice Influencing & got a bit rusty, & all that, but the most compelling evidence for Wong was when he viewed slow motion videos of EXPERT Dice tosses by some of the very best in the business!!! How many of these guys that brag about an advantage of 3,4,5 % & beyond do you think have actually filmed slow motion video of their dice tosses & the chaotic behavior that a dice toss endures after JUST INITIAL TABLE CONTACT ........ EVEN BEFORE HITTING THE BACK WALL? Lol Don’t Answer!!! Lol What really irks me is when people purport the craft to be more than what it really is. A skilled shooter will never posses an advantage of more than 2%, & that’s being VERY GENEROUS!!!! You can take THAT statement to the bank & deposit it!!! Just my opinion!!!

[@emd4life44]

Even “The Dominator” admitted he only has a small edge over the house. But what if you combined dice influence with a stearn system? Is it a bigger edge?

[@cashierscage]

No.... simply because no betting system can render an edge over the house. Every bet except the odds bet is a negative expectation bet. The only way to consistently beat the game ( long term) is to influence the dice, or to be born as one lucky S.O.B.

[@johnmc6979]

You are a very gracious winner Jeremy and gave DC a bit of time at the end to save face. Nice gesture. His mechanics seemed consistent but the results were very similar to what I experience at a craps table vis a lot of short rolls. A good case for the dark side I guess. Was he using the 3V set the entire contest? Thanks GO BROWNS

[@ColorUp]

Not sure if he was using same set or switching things up. I warned him going in, win or lose, a short video will prove nothing and not change anyones mind on the subject. It was more for fun. GO Browns!

[@TohAhmoi]

3V set risky come alot 7

[@vincentmaes3554]

Shout out to KD for sharing his knowledge

[@diceshark8232]

the standard overhand shot will always be random. actually worst than random because you eliminate three degrees of freedom try the underhand throw - the physics of the forward rotation and hitting the bottom bumper yields much better results

[@brizzlex1919]

Prove it

[@rickysmith6041]

I like him, but it's so fun watching him roll sevens

[@dicesensei5690]

How do I contact you to shoot against you? Name the stacks I’m there! I’ll play with both you guys combined vs me (SenSei). 👀👀👀👀

[@technician7033]

KD what's up. Change your Dice Set might make all the difference! People!!! Look at the numbers thrown over the amount of throws. He's setting for inside numbers and he's throwing inside numbers. It's more valuable to THROW numbers you bet on then just Random Numbers. KD just do what you do, pitch count, bet on the numbers you throw and know when to Stop.

[@dicesensei5690]

I ain’t doubting him on his throw but I wish this wasn’t the explain we put out here lol

[@Joniisan]

looking at the overall stats, seems like you both averaged the same types of rolls. i do see the appeal and bias of dice control, but i like that you are open minded about it. nice little clip at the end where you both enjoyed a night at the table, seems like the verdict is that both Pros and Joes will have good and bad days. great vid at always!

[@ColorUp]

Summed up video perfectly, thanks

[@txkevin3467]

I do not expect "dice control" will dramatically allow anyone to control the outcome. I do however think that consistency will slightly improve the outcome over time. I doubt its dramatic but I expect that over 1000 rolls, a dice control thrower will see slightly fewer 7's than a random thrower. There are far too many variables overall but consistency and placing the die where it takes a full 180 degree difference in rotation to produce a 7 seems like it logically would be a good strategy.

[@Shadow-zw4hp]

A great video shows both sides well. Thanks for the efforts.

[@ColorUp]

Thanks for watching!

[@Eadweard76]

I've watched DK, Color up and Bonethrower They all share good information. I for one believe in the D.I. but like anything it takes practice. I can't practice so if I play it has to be for the real deal. Here is what I have learned and figured out for myself. I do NOT consider myself an influencer. I may try it but again. I don't have a table to practice on. With that said lets get into what kind of things affects a roller. The table is a big factor. The size of the table is what I mean. Then you got the different kind of felt and if its a bouncy table or a hard table. This all factors in. Into your roll. Its kinda like bowling, you have to see how the lanes are and make adjustments on the fly. Sad thing is that your doing this with money and the smallest of errors either betting or throwing can upset what your goals are for that session. Next thing that goes into how the dice roll is the ACTUAL dice themselves. Now they are all supposed to be equal and waited the same. But I'm telling you, not all dice are created equal and this is a FACT. I used to throw a lot of horseshoes when I grew up and I know about weight and the slightest difference and what it does or can do to your rotation. Its the same thing with dice. The way the spin or don't spin and the way the land. The weight is an important factor but no one really considers this since ALL Dice are supposed to weigh the same. The glossy and non glossy dice also play a role too. One is smoother than the other. Depending on tables one tends to stick better than the other where it just keeps on going. That's partly due to over rotation and the surface of the table and dice. If you are off any any areas of influence and don't have control of the table you will become more of a random shooter than a True influencer. Influencing a dice just for a small period and then losing the touch as the say and becoming more random. Lets just say you do this over the long haul. You will show more winnings than if you were just a straight up random roller. Lastly is the type of betting you employ. Obviously the more control you have over the dice the less creative you have to be about how you bet. You'll see more gains regardless. If you employ a proper bankroll strategy along proper betting techniques, coupled that with Dice influencing. You can really show steady gains in ever session you play and definitely can make you a winner over the long haul. That is what I feel can happen. But mind you if your not perfect at D.I. it doesn't matter as long as you play with in your means and not over extend yourself you should be able to have a fun time and show some winning sessions. I am by no means a professional gambler or even a D.I 'er. I have tried it out at times but I only play casually and when I say that. I mean once in a blue moon. I have had success at times. But in my opinion in being a successful D.I.er takes practice , practice, practice. Then when you have the basics down, grip, throw, release ect… You WILL have to make adjustments based on the tables and that is what is going to make you or break you at the tables in regards to Dice Influencing.

[@thespanish21god86]

That was the MOST EXTREMELY WELL-SAID answer I have EVER SEEEN WRITTEN regarding this subject!!!!! Edward RULES!!!!!

[@juangonzalez3499]

Hell yes let’s see some excitement going

[@byebyemoney]

4:18 "you lost all your money" -color up

[@cbreeling1]

Would love to see his verified results on real gaming craps over the course of a year with 100s or 1000s of rolls. Bet the results would be due to his betting strategy not the Dice Setting!

[@misterchubbikins]

He tends to bet across the board high (like 100+) and then regress every 3-5 shots. Basically it's a solid betting strategy against even a rando with a 1:6 chance of hitting 7.

[@cashierscage]

It’s hard to believe that you walk away when you are having a bad day at the Casinos King. In all of your videos, you display the exact opposite demeanor. How many times have you tossed a “ brick” ( poor performance), & instead of ending the video, you continue to pour salt into the wound by continuing to toss? How many times have we heard the words: “ let’s get this right”, “ that was a bad toss guys”, “ my shoulder is killing me”, “ I spun that sucker too much”, & “ did you see where those dice hit guys”? ( After one or both of your dice shoot off like rockets)!! My point is that you cannot continue to make excuses & “ chase” when you are having a bad day while on KZbin. We all have bad days, & that’s the reality of Dice Influencing. It’s a tough craft to master, & even when a aspiring shooter develops sound mechanics, he/she is STILL subject to the randomness of the game. It is NOT develop a deft toss & then it’s off to the races. It just doesn’t work that way!!! Dice Influencing & Playing craps is a game, & not a Sport!!! In regards to “ Influence”...... well, Color up has made it painstakingly clear that he has no interest in pursuing Dice Influencing. With THAT being said.... if Color up tosses the dice enough times, eventually he will have a 20 plus roll hand too!! So... just because you tossed a 20 plus roll hand, it is by no means redemption for the prior, poorly tossed hands in that first video. Consistency is the key, but unfortunately Consistency escapes us all when trying to influence the dice. It is what it is!!! Good luck along your journey!!!

[@ericmadeoftin8206]

Wonderfully said. They warn you to hit the back of the wall when throwing the dice, so you do. The back of the wall is covered in triangles, causing the dice to go in RANDOM, uncontrolled directions, which they do. End of story. Why would you think the dice would react differently?

[@chadaitken5476]

If someone comments who doesn’t play craps is fine! But to play randomly is stupid and a guaranteed loser. Don’t think something can’t be done bc YOU can’t do it. See sankeymagic on YT. See blind Richard Tuner card magic...

[@cashierscage]

Well, if your comment was directed towards me..... I never said that Dice Influencing couldn’t be done. I try to influence the dice EVERY TIME that I toss. What I DID say is that Dice Influencing is highly overrated, & that when performed successfully, it only gives you a razor thin edge long term. Anything beyond betting passsline, come bets, Don’t Pass, Don’t Come, & the 6/8 will not give a skilled shooter a long term advantage. That’s a fact, & is a major reason why skilled shooters get their nuts clipped at the Casinos. When we bet Across, inside, outside, even numbers, Iron Cross, etc, it’s simply because we crave action, & overestimate skill level. Personally, I enjoy betting that way IN PRACTICE, but betting that way at the Casinos is a sure-fire date with death!!! A 2% skill level just cannot overcome those bets. It’s simple math. Yes, the “ five, & out, three & out, etc are fun, & entertaining bets in practice & on KZbin but wagering that way is playing craps on steroids!!!!

[@AndrewHacking]

The math says we can expect hands up to 21 rolls long with 95% confidence with pure random variance alone, without needing mystical DI powers. You need many more rolls to get to 99% confidence, and beyond 99% still leaves room for monster rolls at the hands of dice chuckers, whether you use a dice set and control the axis or not.

[@afiblacksails23]

Dice control may just be a mindset but hey if it keeps you positive when risking money then hell believe you’re a Jedi for all I care

[@ColorUp]

Yep, doesn’t hurt to try

[@Qazxswer68]

When he rolls it reminds me of a Boston Dynamics creation. Hey @Boston Dynamics, can you build me a dice shooting robot?

[@maxkelter3561]

Really appreciate both of you guys honesty. Show like it is what it is ect. Fun to watch. Glad you both won some $$. That was cool in the end. Like the comment I don't gamble I win.....

[@sargeviguy9464]

Great video, very entertaining! Maybe KD was having a bad day!

[@jaydominikoski6264]

They don't call me the dicemaster because I love craps, I love craps because I'm the dicemaster

[@denirn8725]

Hey Jeremy, I watched EVERY SINGLE ONE of your videos, I’d want you to roll for me every time... every single time, coming out that is! 🤣

[@ColorUp]

Deal! and thanks for watching all my videos, wow!

[@sethwhite3107]

Yes and Jeremy you should hop 7 on every come out roll. You would be rich

[@chenryrex]

Love your videos and enjoy they aren't "fixed", like some on here. I believe in dice control but, my problem is, some days, I just can't throw properly. There are days I throw, and every roll is a hard way exactly what i set for. Other days, it's more like random, as if I hadn't set the dice at all. I've had days when I could set for 12 and roll it over and over. Other days, I'll set for a twelve and it'll double pitch!

[@HawaiianAttitude]

and your right a monster roll could pop off at any time, sometimes it is good to stick around?

[@andycowan1735]

Hey Color UP, just curious what you, or others you know of, use for there under lament on home tabels.? currently building my home table during stay at home order and almost finished, just going back and forth on what to use, any recommendations? Thanks

[@ColorUp]

I use a $10 green real felt blackjack be sure my microfiber layout

[@ColorUp]

In the old days casinos would use newspapers under their felt

[@andycowan1735]

I purchased my layout from Casino 4 you, in vegas, same layout as you have in your vids. But you use felt under the layout?

[@ColorUp]

Yes, I add a layover of felt under it. Seems to be just right to the casinos I play in

[@andycowan1735]

@@ColorUp Thanks for the quick response, I play at some of the same Casinos ( Blackhawk, CC ) from your vids, your in Denver, looks like King Dice is as well, I'm in Aurora. Maybe one day we will bump into one another, up the hill, keeping a lookout for the color up hat, which I'm planning on getting soon. TY

[@bobcrane2720]

Both sessions, he went 3 for 5; 60% (75% is random, 80% is skilled.) 6/10 of his rolls got at least 1 inside number after comeout, the goal is 8. This is too small a sample to know his skill, but I'd bet cautiously (or wait until he shows his skill.) He does throw well, just didn't workout this time. He should practice before each session, but again; his throw seemed fine.

[@HawaiianAttitude]

to me a great dice controller is someone who bets the Don't and is able to hit 7's because that is the easiest number to hit!! Think about it, if you cant hit 7's to win $ then what makes you think you can hit the harder numbers??

[@ColorUp]

Great point

[@flexmtb]

"King" Dice sure knows how to throw.... 7s 😂

[@dalehalpin2686]

Great video as always. Hope more “dice influencers” will play against you. I like that you out rolled him on his table.

[@Listener827]

BTW, Best set to use 98% of time is "Hard Ways set...Way less chance of a 7 over Any other point set. DK started with and mainly played the V-3 set, finally changed to Hard Ways set, then changed to a 1-3 set on top-where he got his longest roll. Based on the 7's he rolled, his dice separated and landed out-of-sync forward, And flipped side to side--so he was off on 2 different planes on Both dice. For a dice-controller-2 Huge problems. Nice video Jeremy. Was surprised to hear you played Basket Ball. Any other sports you liked to play? I enjoyed hand ball, racket ball, tennis, soccer, baseball, gymnastics, Volley ball, and basket ball.

[@cashierscage]

One thing is certain..... Dice Influencing audiences will always remain critical!!! If you are going on Camera in front of thousands, as an instructor ..... you’d better be on your “ A” game. Anything less & you will be heavily criticized!!!!! Now, a while back King offered to fly me down to Denver to ( in his own words) “ Show me what you got”!! Now, why would i want to do THAT? Admittedly so, I have nothing more or less than the next guy that tries to influence the dice. Get on camera & try to prove/teach that I am a good shooter? For WHAT purpose? Pride? I’d just as soon have more pride lifting a few coins from the Casinos!! Why do THAT when I might fall flat on my face? ( regarding beating probability)!!! The big difference is that I don’t teach, or purport Dice Influencing to be more than what it is. I won’t get on camera & tell the masses that if you practice diligently, that you will be able to influence the dice. What diligent, & arduous practice WILL reward you with is a sound, mechanical toss that is accurate wherein the dice travel in tandem, & hit the same area on the table with minimal rollout after initial table contact & contact with the pyramids. Now, the million dollar question is “ Does THAT constitute influence if you do all of those things correctly?” The answer is “ It SHOULD,( theoretically) but it might not”!!! Now, I realize THAT is a hard pill to swallow after practicing so hard, & putting in so much work, & time, but..... THAT’S the realty of Dice Influencing!! All those years of hard work & preparation to develop a toss that looks perfect but renders absolutely no influence), or if you truly become highly skilled.... A 2% advantage!! You see... there’s three groups of Dice Influencers. (1) Those that believe that if you practice hard enough & develop the skill that you will possess the Holy grail. (2) Those that know that all of the hard work renders AT BEST a long term 2% advantage. (3) Those that SWEAR that they can influence the dice, practice religiously, but just don’t possess the required superior hand/eye coordination & fine motor skill to successfully execute CONSISTENTLY!! Which group am I in? Group number 2!!!!

[@paul311emain]

Dude…DK needs to leave you alone LOL! You are wayyyy more articulate than he is. Just saying, there would be a ton of uh’s in that confrontation.

[@DrKnowCraps]

"I'm not here to gamble, I'm here to win." LOVE the attitude. When a DI is off, and it happens, the DI has NO advantage and the bankroll will suffer. That is why I have betting strategies for random tossers that I have tested on my home table. On the days when I am doing my practice casino session and I'm tossing point - 7 then an 8 roll then point-7 I stop throwing with precision and just chuck them like Color Up does. The best part of craps is that it allows us players to play both ways, unlike blackjack when a shoe is bad we can't bet with the house.

[@ColorUp]

Great points

[@nmorgan350z]

I don't care what any one says, I've been rolling the dice for nearly 22 years, and a random shooter with no idea what they are doing will wreck your bankroll. Dice sets work, and so does knowing where your dice are landing, and what numbers you are repeating on that particular table. For some reason, I roll better on the acrylic tables, they don't bounce around as often.

[@joedirt.1967]

That guy throws like me....😂 a random....😂😂😂

[@ColorUp]

🤷🏽‍♂️

[@dorothyclabaugh1488]

I tried dice control.best answer i can give you it's not consistent.i have been playing craps since the 90s.the table play goes in cycles.thats consistent.dice overall are erratic.

[@nickboretz1774]

I'm a DI and I agree exactly with what he says about leaving. But he shouldn't use the hardways set because any on axis roll can give him a seven fast. Hardways sets are for less experienced shooters who have one dice going off axis..which is ok on a hardways set.

[@MrJaybiz2000]

"I feel it, $500 across" (Rolls 7). Bwahaaaaa

[@johngaltline9933]

It's interesting seeing the comments on this video with other setters seeming to give about a 50/50 split of conflicting advice on how to set the dice for the best results. I'm in the camp that thinks that in theory you can influence the dice, if you can manage to throw very consistently, from the exact same position. Sadly no human will have the precision needed to really make it matter as even a slight variation in where the dice hit the alligator will cause a lot of difference in where the dice fall. I'd actually like to see a robot of some sort that can throw the dice from the exact same position with the same force and angle and see how consistent even it's rolls would be. In theory such a thing would get the same roll every time, but I just doubt it would turn out that way.

[@1yamawai1]

is this a fresh session or a continuation of the previous?

[@ColorUp]

Continue, rounds 5-10

[@TonyB71]

Down goes Frazier!!!

[@shreepi327]

Thanks color up nice mini series. Would you be able to do more videos like these from so called dice influencers or dice controllers... would be very interesting to see their perspective individually. Btw King , surely seemed a.nice guy but too many excuses ( maybe his bad day).....stay home stay safe We can save some dough 😉😊

[@ColorUp]

Would love to do more, King Dice was nice to allow, most of them will not take the challenge.

[@shreepi327]

@@ColorUp very true

[@nc732]

This is straight comedy. 😂

[@markh8637]

KD needed to take that long walk or break during that throw but them kind of rolls happen on off days probably better to play the don't on yourself until it changes around

[@Listener827]

Jeremy--in your 10 rounds you won! And by 10 shots! Congratulations! Understand why you have your doubts...though at the real casino he did help you double your bankroll.

[@loco90sbaby2]

Aiming in the corner is a no no specially in dice controlling

[@jamesg2485]

U would think he would use a different dice set with all these 7s lol

[@bluenoteone]

I guess one has to be a believer to think "precision " dice setting makes a difference . But then again, I've read about the stats relative to the fact that it DOES make a statistical difference which doesn't require human faith.

[@1yamawai1]

it requires hours, days and years of practice but i believe it can be done

[@PokerManiacTFP]

Arch is too high that's where the 3 4 is coming from

[@brizzlex1919]

Lmao can't believe people really believe in this shit

[@SilverChief]

King Dice is throwing the hardways.. it works until your axis/Yaw is off ..Increases odds to 25% that a 7 will show..compared to random odds and this is proving it ..HARDWAYS set has to be 100% perfect to work.. The KING here is creating his own problem on the launch.. from off/Above the deck..Not consistent compared to launch from the perfectly aligned flat hard table deck. You actually have to find your own custom SET to work against your self imposed axis/roll over flaws. Mine is the off set Boxcars with 2-3 on bottom.Snake eyes on the back.. it creates ALL TALL ALL SMALL PAYOUTS hitting all the numbers. I have done it many times. several times 2x on long 20 plus rolls. It takes a lot of throws to discover your natural custom Set.

[@tpsu129]

Fair dice will always roll randomly.

[@rayhjr72]

Same set same throw same landing spot but different numbers...sounds like random to me!

[@bgsdiceden3439]

Congrats on coloring up👍👍😁

[@ColorUp]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@hennizar9757]

good finish bud🙂

[@bluenoteone]

Its YOUR specific math cycle completion ......its is YOUR specific full circle math paradigm. That's at least a small factor in explaining your bad night Dice King.

[@JayAr709]

Myths that destroy a dice bettor’s bankroll.

[@jaydominikoski6264]

The dice roll in cycles, when the field comes it comes, when it don't it won't, same with hardways and with 7s

[@Falmouth03]

Not as much a Dice King, more like a table cooler

[@rgardner5776]

Not controlling the dice. Influencing at best

[@rgardner5776]

Where do u get 8.5 rolls every 6th roll is a 7 mathematically

[@ColorUp]

Because mathematically there will be so many 7s on the come out roll and the roll continues. The math works out to 8.4somethingxxxxxxxxxxxx

[@louvoodoo]

Simply put, the average number of rolls between the intervals of the seven is six rolls. The average length of a craps hand is 8.52 rolls. This is because their are come out winners and losers that extend the space between the intervals. (Ie a shooter can not seven out before he established a point, so those extra come out rolls get added to the hand length.) If you really want to dig deep into the math see the link below: "What is the average number of rolls that a Craps hand will last?... This number is approximately 8.5255. So, on average, you can expect to hold the dice about eight and a half rolls when playing Craps." catlin.casinocitytimes.com/article/how-long-is-a-craps-roll-1240

[@jamesm710]

He just proved there is no such thing as dice control. All he did was set the dice. The throw might be soft, but is flying randomly.

[@thespanish21god86]

I call it dice-setting with controlled shooting - the way you toss the dice and with how much force! Of COURSE there is NO such thing as dice-control because if you COULD control the dice, then you WOULD be able to make ANY NUMBER you want APPEAR AFTER the dice have FINISHED rolling!!!

[@chrisbrodbeck1961]

That surprised me, but I know from practicing that distractions are real...wether its writing yourw score, typing you're scores, etc...at lets until that becomes yourw normal...but when you go to the table you wont be bringing youre tracker program....I'm going to suggest doing both....just for comfort zone...then you can mentally refer back to pure table....you can always film and add the numbers later!

[@chrisbrodbeck1961]

typos ugh...

[@ColorUp]

the numbers where added later in editing. There was no distractions.

[@hotcooking2844]

Why is he using the 3-v set????

[@paul311emain]

Wow...I feel for KD. That hurts the brand.

[@quanzi30]

All this video did was confirm there is no point to learn dice control

[@JoeFerber]

NOT true! He HELPED Jeremy win money in the REAL world in his hometown of Colorado!!!

[@TLOSleepz]

The name of the casino is hilarious.

[@manuelgomez1166]

The V3 is not a good set but a hardway set is better and more forgiving. The V2 and V3 sets, you got to be on your game to use them

[@mrmoosygoosy2500]

Clearly this man didnt go to high school other wise he would know some simple math and physics. I dont think he knows what random is. Someone get this man a dictionary. Once the dice leaver your hand it is always going to be random. Thank you color up i always love your videos but i also love that you indirectly exposed this fraud.

[@ColorUp]

Not exposing, just having fun, friendly competition

[@danoneill2846]

I'm all for freedom .. D Cs are too dam slow at the table .. just say in

[@ColorUp]

I don't mind the slowness, I lose less money that way, and I enjoy their rituals

[@HedgeapleJoe]

Jeremy throws you must play the horn. He always hits horn numbers. KD with a 440 across bet with regression on the last roll would certainly have made money.

[@dustincadelina8941]

This dice king guy is comedy

[@benwhite24]

I think that DK is one hell of a shooter. A great toss and consistent Landing zone. But, this is what happens when we get stuck on a dice set. We have to adapt. What works one day may not another and have to change things in a moment. And... we have to pay attention when to do it. Leave pride at the door.

[@mjw1bowl]

Exactly what I was thinking. Kept throwing the hardway set expecting different results. After the first round I would have changed my dice set and would continue changing until I found one that worked more consistently for that particular table.

[@thespanish21god86]

GREAT call!!!

[@thespanish21god86]

@@mjw1bowl ABSOLUTELY!!!

[@jaydominikoski6264]

Distance doesn't matter, as long as the parameters don't change, probability is probability,

[@TheBeefSlayer]

With craps, you hopefully watch your rack grow longer …. But I’ve noticed if you don’t color out…. You will watch the rack disappear. So now… once I see rack fill…. I color out. Maybe I do a partial color if they let me. Have it played in a long time. But last time I did… I was so lucky. I’d step away and smoke… and when i get back two people had already 7 out while i was gone 4 min. i just could not make a mistake. get up… get out. had a time where i had to get money…. while i was gone…. dude fire bet 7 points and only reason i wasn't on it was cause i stepped away. You gotta feel what kind of day it is.

[@buddyc859]

Imnot a dice controller yet but I want to try but i noticed that dc is head is movement is very inconsistent. He's looking late at the back wall. I saw a little gloating early it seened when he dodnt even look at all and then bounced them off the back before hotting the felt. I would assume that it would be best I have a. Consistant wind up just like a pitch would in MLB. After setting your grip, either on the. Dice or laces your wind up and delivery should stay a consistant with timing and ecerything. Also he says he doesn't mind talking at the beginning the he says to be quiet then he says.he doesnt mind. Everything' says on his approch to the game sounded much like myself and i am not a dice controller yet. Hes drinking at the end too and he says at the beggining. And throughout that if he wins in 5 rolls he will usually walk cause hes just made 400 to 500 "his words" which makes sense if hes betting 200 across and all bit then at the ens he probably did juat that and said he was gonna stay. Lol Sounds kinda like a typical gambler like myslef that probably needs to slow down like myself because in reality if u knew u had good dice control and had confidence because u had consistant skill then I would NEVER leave the casinos. Id leave when they started giving me shit or making things look sketchy and then id probably switch casinos and not go back for a while. Here in vegas i would do just that. Why wouldent you right leive the Fuckin dream.

[@camprocketsound2601]

KD: "the statistics are in my favor..." Also KD: "if I have a couple of bad rolls, it's time to quit...." What an absolute toolbag...

[@Blindniko]

KD change up you set if it not working... 3 V is for professionals only. Maybe you should switch to the Hardway set.