Did 50 Cent Kill NYC Hip Hop? | Everyday Struggle

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On today's #EverydayStruggle, Maino joined Joe Budden and DJ Akademiks to talk about NYC hip-hop and whether or not 50 Cent did actually kill it back in the day.
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@timkruse9912
@timkruse9912 6 жыл бұрын
New York Radio killed NYC Hiphop smh
@krisj827
@krisj827 6 жыл бұрын
Tim Kruse yep
@MariGonzalez-yp8yw
@MariGonzalez-yp8yw 6 жыл бұрын
POINT BLANK PERIOD!
@kdot5375
@kdot5375 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. They never wanted to support their local artists
@NewEarthSon
@NewEarthSon 6 жыл бұрын
Tim Kruse Its really Corporations buying nyc radio stations and telling them what to play killed nyc hiphop. Cant break new artist from your state if your playing a billboard top 10 every hour. Cant create a new york mainstream spund if all you play on the radio is the hotest nyc artist at the time and then atl music. However thanks to the internet, nyc hiphop has no excuse any more for following the south style. But they are. Maybe from copying rhe south nyc can develop something new from it to call our own
@SplashyLaflare
@SplashyLaflare 6 жыл бұрын
Tim Kruse 💯
@chachisadventures3378
@chachisadventures3378 6 жыл бұрын
50 IS NY HIP HOP...FOH even thinking he killed it. The fans control what's popping and not popping.
@thatkidroshay
@thatkidroshay 6 жыл бұрын
BIG CHACHI although I would agree that 50 didnt kill it, I wouldn't necessarily say that fans always control what's popping and whats not. For example, many new age artists are big because people have come to accept what's big. You know how many people say music is trash, until it keeps getting played and then they start feeling it? (Including myself). Its one of those things that media like the radio stations have big power over
@lioneljohnson3722
@lioneljohnson3722 6 жыл бұрын
BIG CHACHI 50 and Jay z is NY hip hop
@chachisadventures3378
@chachisadventures3378 6 жыл бұрын
Meteor Bars yep Jay too
@walthug607
@walthug607 6 жыл бұрын
Rakim,Big L, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, Wu -tang, Big Pun, Biggie Smalls, Nas, Mobb Deep,Krs 1, The Lox and many other are New York hip hop over 50 cent. In the words of Jada Kiss dissing 50 "Your not the King of New York , You live in Connecticut'
@mrdanyo1223
@mrdanyo1223 6 жыл бұрын
Not "fans" but what sells more.
@tylerrodriguez7772
@tylerrodriguez7772 6 жыл бұрын
50 was one of the only legit rappers of the 2000s.. He's a legend you can't say he killed any form of hip hop
@354allday
@354allday 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Rodriguez He did by being petty beefing with anyone who stood next to Ja on sum Mean Girls shit
@barshookshiphoptv3727
@barshookshiphoptv3727 6 жыл бұрын
I hate 50 cent fans to a degree cause y'all treat him like he some type of saint or something stop ignoring the fact he got hot because he damn near died ppl act like he wasn't a rat and was trying to stop music out of ny get they shine
@354allday
@354allday 6 жыл бұрын
Bars&Hooks HipHopTV Facts his whole gimmick was being shot,they still bring that up til this day
@MyroYT
@MyroYT 6 жыл бұрын
JERU thats the dumbest shit ive heard in my life holy shit
@354allday
@354allday 6 жыл бұрын
Myro What u said was simple minded get shot and talk about it like it's accomplishment. I only quoted the sneak diss Jay took at 50 y'all respect the person who gets shot I respect the shooter
@702mikey5
@702mikey5 6 жыл бұрын
This video is so disrespectful towards 50. He has one of the most iconic albums ever in hip hop.
@Kratos-bf2jg
@Kratos-bf2jg 6 жыл бұрын
Lol they weren't disrespecting him
@rickyspanish3053
@rickyspanish3053 6 жыл бұрын
Complex fans are hipsters...
@barshookshiphoptv3727
@barshookshiphoptv3727 6 жыл бұрын
His first 2 albums were really good after those albums his music been trash. Yes he had hits but his run that's keeping him on top is shit he doing outside of music. 50 stopped ja on some sucka shit when ja had the radio on smash than the fan out of no where started rocking with all these dumb ass record coming out the south
@jblack5323
@jblack5323 6 жыл бұрын
Mikey Neptune for white people. Hip hop reached a plateau in 96/97 and it tailed off. 50 is trash and overrated.
@zachcate7102
@zachcate7102 6 жыл бұрын
j black what are you talking about
@ProdByMani
@ProdByMani 6 жыл бұрын
Smh better stop disrespecting kanan like that
@thablackkat9905
@thablackkat9905 6 жыл бұрын
LordNBA Kenan of Kenan & Kel?
@blackphillip63
@blackphillip63 6 жыл бұрын
U mean Ghost as in Ghostface Killah? I love wu tang
@roycemoltisanti1469
@roycemoltisanti1469 6 жыл бұрын
LordNBA 50 cent is a bitch
@terrybarr8635
@terrybarr8635 6 жыл бұрын
LordNBA Right
@theerealatm
@theerealatm 6 жыл бұрын
Yall don't know who Kanan is?! ABC?! Whaaaat?!
@MostMorose
@MostMorose 6 жыл бұрын
50 Cent changed the game to a more melodic sound it was balanced he had that gangsta shit and melodic shit. He raised the bar on how to make a rap hit in the early 2000's I remember when his debut came out he was the biggest rapper in the world his debut was unlike anything else before it. I'd say he was one of the people who pushed hip hop even more into the mainstream. Everybody knows "In Da Club" even your grandparents did if they ever heard it at least once.
@sabot4g3
@sabot4g3 6 жыл бұрын
you mean bonethugs and the Memphis underground?
@MostMorose
@MostMorose 6 жыл бұрын
JO7FUL ? Bone Thugs and Harmony are legends too
@cesarporras9255
@cesarporras9255 6 жыл бұрын
JO7FUL ? But who had more success tho? 50 changed it and had the wave way better
@edub4204
@edub4204 6 жыл бұрын
The same shit he accused Ja for doing.
@barshookshiphoptv3727
@barshookshiphoptv3727 6 жыл бұрын
Hazel Ninja wrong! 50 ain't do shit but copy ja rule. Ja had the radio on mash doing the sing shit for years ja has waaay mor hits than fif. Fif copied ja doing the candy shop that shit was garbage the only dude from ny the perfected the melodic sound was Max b. The south stole Max b wave an is winning with it an is shitting on ny when they should be thanking ny because Max b formula has everyone using I don't care who u are or where u from if you song is on the radio today Max b influence is in. Max didn't blow up because he got locked up
@jkdeez4236
@jkdeez4236 6 жыл бұрын
Bruhh 50 cent held it down for hip hop in his prime!
@hoodyfrog7036
@hoodyfrog7036 6 жыл бұрын
Jk Deez undisputed comment
@Blazenetwork1990
@Blazenetwork1990 6 жыл бұрын
For 2 years after 2005 he was done
@MegaCoolboy78
@MegaCoolboy78 5 жыл бұрын
Blaze Thomas 2007*
@bayareabully7867
@bayareabully7867 5 жыл бұрын
50 made music for clubs
@Gogetta80
@Gogetta80 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@YellowSynth
@YellowSynth 6 жыл бұрын
50 did that shit - Kanan Voice
@nycedyme4
@nycedyme4 6 жыл бұрын
Yellow Synth underrated comment
@mazzb305
@mazzb305 6 жыл бұрын
Guilty as fuck
@mexmurda976
@mexmurda976 6 жыл бұрын
50 held it down for hip hop when it was at its lowest (2000’s) 50 is a legend
@mexmurda976
@mexmurda976 6 жыл бұрын
La Flamin Boomin #FuckjcoLe when I said 2000’s I meant that whole decade including the mid 2000s. Hip hop was getting dry after 97
@MostMorose
@MostMorose 6 жыл бұрын
Same for Lil Wayne and Kanye and TI
@MostMorose
@MostMorose 6 жыл бұрын
Mid 2000's was when it was at its lowest.
@mexmurda976
@mexmurda976 6 жыл бұрын
La Flamin Boomin #FuckjcoLe you trippin. If you compare how many great hip hop albums there were 2000-2005 to 2010-2015 you’d see that 2010s is a better era for hip hop. Old school rappers like Scarface and too short even call this era the second golden era
@mexmurda976
@mexmurda976 6 жыл бұрын
La Flamin Boomin #FuckjcoLe bruh how can you even argue that early mid 2000s wasn’t a bad era? Jay Z brought mafioso rap to an end, biggie was gone, Pac was gone, lollipop rappers were coming up, hip hop was losing its grittiness, most 90s rappers had lost their touch etc. late 2000’s was good that’s why 2010s are great. Hip hop got back on track this decade
@matemaatonga9177
@matemaatonga9177 6 жыл бұрын
50 is a hip hop icon, wtf y'all talkin bout
@jessehargrove6737
@jessehargrove6737 6 жыл бұрын
Smokey Dopey they not debating that😂
@dakingataleedo
@dakingataleedo 6 жыл бұрын
yall aint watch the video lol they aint say the man was trash
@MrKing8050
@MrKing8050 6 жыл бұрын
It didnt help that the NY rappers coming ul during the mid 2000s abadoned the NY sound into a more southern sound
@carolinaboy7495
@carolinaboy7495 6 жыл бұрын
Smokey Dopey m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpDKf6SbnMeBp9E
@carolinaboy7495
@carolinaboy7495 6 жыл бұрын
MrKing8050 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpDKf6SbnMeBp9E
@pSmurf954
@pSmurf954 6 жыл бұрын
How To Rob... And bruh did yall not forget that 50 beefed with every nigga in NY? Jada, Fat Joe(shout out to Terror Squad) Ja, Nas, Jay and any nigga that did a song or had any ties to Murder Inc. But at the same time its on the Dj too. If the only thing you play is Aftermath/Shady, then what do expect. Your Dj's were not supporting your own artists. And at the same time, the shift in culture and the real fact that NY lost it. Period.
@TheBrob1983
@TheBrob1983 6 жыл бұрын
pSmurf954 if John John tried to kill you wouldn't you go after every person that attach themselves to John John yes or no
@pSmurf954
@pSmurf954 6 жыл бұрын
TheBrob1983 not disagreeing with the actions, just saying they played a part. Tbh, I more than likely would have done the same shit. In the words of my brother, "#EBK Everybody Killah. If you on that bullshit, anybody can get it. Give a fuck about race, nationality, creed or background. Respect me how I respect you"...
@fredbjamz4956
@fredbjamz4956 4 жыл бұрын
I’m from the South and 50 made a lot of NY rappers look wack to us. G unit and Dipset was was like the only NY hip hop being loved out here. Dudes like me who was hip hop nerds still rock with NY but even I looked at some different after 50. I miss that crazy NY sound. We need that
@saint0rleansofthe9th76
@saint0rleansofthe9th76 3 жыл бұрын
In the long run how you feel about now ? Cause being from the south I feel you. Imo I think 50 did kinda ruin it lol
@izzy_bozay
@izzy_bozay 9 ай бұрын
That was a good take shawty!
@negispringfield6156
@negispringfield6156 13 күн бұрын
50 definitely ruined it he broke up Dipset and ended Murda Ink ending all possible rivals to the South
@AV-sd7cq
@AV-sd7cq 6 жыл бұрын
50 a fucking legend. Don't throw dirt on 50 name. Only mf I know that could take 9 shots and still go on with his rap
@chucktaylor3665
@chucktaylor3665 6 жыл бұрын
Steeeve Maaadden If 1 album makes you a leged??? I guess...
@AV-sd7cq
@AV-sd7cq 6 жыл бұрын
Chuck Taylor name another person in the rap game that took 9 shots and lived, then later make music
@chucktaylor3665
@chucktaylor3665 6 жыл бұрын
Steeeve Maaadden Get Rich or Die Trying came out 14 years ago... People get shot all the time, he's lucky Dr Dre produced his first and only good album.
@anthonyg2889
@anthonyg2889 6 жыл бұрын
Chuck Taylor y'all called Nas a legend just from illmatic so why can't 50 be one from grodt????
@ich983
@ich983 6 жыл бұрын
dumbass, I guess his multiple classic mixtapes don't count
@mayham8215
@mayham8215 6 жыл бұрын
If maino wasn't there dj akademiks would of been shitting on NY hiphop on some 2pac shit.
@ssb2828
@ssb2828 6 жыл бұрын
Its good Maino was their. I dont think AK would be able to hold up with Joe on this topic. Maino did though
@TheBrob1983
@TheBrob1983 6 жыл бұрын
mayham pac from ny
@nazzysosa2279
@nazzysosa2279 6 жыл бұрын
He told AK don't say a fucking word
@youtight8378
@youtight8378 6 жыл бұрын
Mid 2000s The Crunk/Snap movement took over mainstream around the same 50 was beefing with JA, Fat Joe, D Block, Cam ect... Diddy was focusing on making the band and going pop, then in between all of that Wayne BLEW UP, then Nas made Hip Hop is Dead...Joe wasn't doing shit either....Battle rap was in its infancy...from then on Hot 97 was barely breaking or playing anymore new NYC acts until Nicki Minaj came along who got a co-sign from ironically a southern rapper in lil wayne. It wasn't until the digital mixtape/myspace/youtube era started with Wiz Khalifa when artist who been trying to get on labels said fuck it I can do it myself and go independent.
@saint0rleansofthe9th76
@saint0rleansofthe9th76 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more.
@SeeSetJaeMiirTv
@SeeSetJaeMiirTv Жыл бұрын
French Blew him self up to in the streets
@princewatlington4672
@princewatlington4672 6 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how Joe picks and chooses who to get crazy with on here.
@irobot7016
@irobot7016 6 жыл бұрын
Prince Watlington Yea he was real careful on how he expressed himself
@princewatlington4672
@princewatlington4672 6 жыл бұрын
IG: Britt_l17 THats facts. But remember when Yachty came on? He picks and chooses who to get crazy with.
@princewatlington4672
@princewatlington4672 6 жыл бұрын
Bigdickgenius92 that’s super facts! I fuck wit him tho but I ain’t taking that
@TheKondinho
@TheKondinho 6 жыл бұрын
Maino is certified though
@cokoblaze
@cokoblaze 6 жыл бұрын
So we just gonna ignore Nas and Jay-Z right before that, Jay-Z and Prodigy, Beanie (know it's Philly) and Jada, Roca-Fella dissing everybody in NY, to the point where half the time we didn't even know the person they were talking about (ex: Jayo Felony).....but we gonna blame 50. All them upcoming artist that roca-fella dissed never made it either. Then they mention unity in the south.....Jeezy vs. Gucci, TI vs. Flip (and a bunch of others). Didn't Boosie literally (get charged with) kill the dude that he was beefing with? Jeezy vs. Ross (BMF issues). Point is, hip hop has always been competitive, 50 didn't do anything new, so you can't blame him for doing what everyone else did.
@juicyjay8642
@juicyjay8642 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t hear you though!
@trusttheprocess6356
@trusttheprocess6356 6 жыл бұрын
50 is Hip-Hop!
@metaphyzmusic
@metaphyzmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Fuck New York hip hop is greater than this piece of shit it's just the spirits of our African ancestors speaking through us that we created this divine culture but it's inspired by living in hell which is the ghetto and trying to get out
@phildeep2165
@phildeep2165 6 жыл бұрын
metaphyzmusic your so cringe bro
@iswitchedtoxfinity2237
@iswitchedtoxfinity2237 6 жыл бұрын
if 50 Cent would have made a second Get Rich or Die Tryin he would have been labeled the greatest rapper right now facts
@trencekinney9479
@trencekinney9479 6 жыл бұрын
Shawn Young he did it was called “The Massacre”
@jakehall2880
@jakehall2880 6 жыл бұрын
Trence Kinney i think if his other albums after grodt and massacre like curtis nd bisd were more critically acclaimed then defo the goat
@CastroJr92
@CastroJr92 6 жыл бұрын
The Massacre is a great album
@kidperk334
@kidperk334 6 жыл бұрын
50 tried to make another GRODT and he couldnt......
@suhail1200
@suhail1200 6 жыл бұрын
POTD
@thepro3643
@thepro3643 6 жыл бұрын
Budden bullies akademiks.
@ALL-Lions
@ALL-Lions 6 жыл бұрын
The Pro364 It makes me feel bad for him.
@MrEer218
@MrEer218 6 жыл бұрын
The Pro364 Pure comedy lol
@mujakic22
@mujakic22 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao, you can see the fear in akademiks eyes when Joe leans over that table!
@kashstory
@kashstory 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he did him wrong here.
@nycedyme4
@nycedyme4 6 жыл бұрын
Not maino tho
@AKHiTV
@AKHiTV 6 жыл бұрын
50 was the hottest thing ever at the time so they try to blame him 4 everything
@354allday
@354allday 6 жыл бұрын
He was beefing wit most of the NY artists
@cokelife5831
@cokelife5831 3 жыл бұрын
@@354allday and that brought the best out of ny rap
@AaronSoDope
@AaronSoDope 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby shmurda couldve revived ny hip-hop with his NY inspired sound as a national hit but then got arrested. Young MA then came back with a banger but she dont have the image. Bobby was the perfect dude but messed it all Up
@omegashenron8
@omegashenron8 5 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of artists that could have brought it back that were making noise and trying to bring it back 2007-2011, Tru Life, Uncle Murda, French, Max B, Stack bundles, Ra Diggs. Problem was all them dudes got locked or killed except for Uncle murda and French. French the only one that popped off and he sold out. In recent times like you said bobby was the one that should have brought it back. Tekashi kind of did but he's a fraud and is merely an image created by a collective of people.
@yaboyaang5639
@yaboyaang5639 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Murrell Wasn’t really NY inspired, Hot Nigga sounded a lot like a Chicago Drill song
@reppinNY
@reppinNY 3 жыл бұрын
Nah bobby wanted to be chief keef of NY he was lowkey inspired by sosa
@tiggie_96
@tiggie_96 6 жыл бұрын
AK's skinny fat hands always bother me lmao
@aking2524
@aking2524 6 жыл бұрын
Tiggie _ True
@kimmykiddO
@kimmykiddO 6 жыл бұрын
Tiggie _ I love you 😭😭😭 now thats going to bother me forever 😩😩😩
@Jdotbdots
@Jdotbdots 6 жыл бұрын
You’re gay.
@Brucewayne-dr6hr
@Brucewayne-dr6hr 6 жыл бұрын
Actually NY got too Devided and everything started sounding the same, most of the music was murder music. The people wanted a break from all of that, they wanted music that was fun and carefree and that's when the south swept them off their feet. The slogan is real and it goes for everything, together we stand and divided we fall.
@barshookshiphoptv3727
@barshookshiphoptv3727 6 жыл бұрын
The south was paying dj to play they shit they didn't get they shit popping like that every where because they shit was that hot or good yes they had the strip clubs on lock but getting international play they payed djs and the east coast didnt do shit like that that's why the game fucked up now
@Brucewayne-dr6hr
@Brucewayne-dr6hr 6 жыл бұрын
will walker, These rappers don't understand that collaboration brings them more money
@TheJoshua9965
@TheJoshua9965 6 жыл бұрын
And one other thing. Outkast Speakerboxxx/The love Below was out in 03/04 too. That was the biggest album in the world and solidified Atlanta as the new mecca in Hip Hop. They are the only hip hop group to this day to win Album of the Year at the Grammys. That killed NY hip hop. All eyes were on the A from that point forward.
@MrCbwTV
@MrCbwTV Жыл бұрын
It also encouraged a lot of rappers to sing mediocre.
@wackwallkilla
@wackwallkilla 6 жыл бұрын
50 is the LAST of the gangster rap generation, one of the godfather's even the OGs say the same
@mesab99
@mesab99 6 жыл бұрын
(Laughs in West Coast)
@bayareabully7867
@bayareabully7867 5 жыл бұрын
@Agent Smith The Best rappers right now are from the west , the south are just mumbling & the east is dead
@bayareabully7867
@bayareabully7867 5 жыл бұрын
@Agent Smith Kendrick >>>>NY
@bayareabully7867
@bayareabully7867 5 жыл бұрын
@Agent Smith lol Meek mill ?? That nigga is straight up garbage lol foh he got bodied by an RnB singing cat lol , East coast been dead for a min .
@bayareabully7867
@bayareabully7867 5 жыл бұрын
@Agent Smith Nipsey hussle victory lap is better than anything that dropped outta the east this year & that's why the album is nominated for a Grammy .
@bayareabully7867
@bayareabully7867 5 жыл бұрын
@Agent Smith who's popping outta the east ?? Gay ass Rainbow boy Tekashi ??lol or Stripper Cardi B ??? Fr fool I don't who's producing the weakest rappers in the game ..the east or the south ?😂😂😂😂😂😂
@johnhe4845
@johnhe4845 6 жыл бұрын
as long as Nas is alive, my city can’t be dead
@abefrommn6010
@abefrommn6010 6 жыл бұрын
Nas is fuckin trash reall hip hop is migos nd future SIMPLE
@eldropout7400
@eldropout7400 6 жыл бұрын
SAUCEAHOLIC shut up lonzo
@Terpio15000
@Terpio15000 6 жыл бұрын
SAUCEAHOLIC lhfh
@TheBrob1983
@TheBrob1983 6 жыл бұрын
John He he needs to have them tunes bumpin for that to be true
@_Apostate
@_Apostate 6 жыл бұрын
or Az mobb deep premier jedi mind tricks and immortal technique
@Iam_kawal_
@Iam_kawal_ 6 жыл бұрын
50 was so big nobody could top him single handedly, which is why he killed it. He was so nice he set the bar so high.
@goofiegang142
@goofiegang142 6 жыл бұрын
I love this discussion my guys I really do! I bleed hip hop And everything you guys are saying are dead on! I agree with all of your points and opinions.Soooo valid I love it
@BrettShuffler
@BrettShuffler 6 жыл бұрын
50 didn’t kill New York rap, he built it up in his prime. And don’t forget g unit.
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO. 50 was literally at war against his own city in his prime. Especially anyone who dared side with Ja Rule.
@mauricebowling4855
@mauricebowling4855 6 жыл бұрын
The South tends to produce more party music New York rap is so dark and all about the streets
@flyking6622
@flyking6622 6 жыл бұрын
Jay-Z and 50 Cent killed NYC RapJay-Z vs Nas/Mobb Deep was the first wave in the NYC beefing that ended the relevancy of the city. When Jay retired, 50 Cent vs everybody in NYC was the deathblow, which left the gate open for the South to takeover. Jay-Z started embracing the south rappers; T.I., Lil Wayne, Rick Ross. With Jay-Z running Def Jam, he shelved a lot of New York albums, which is why DMX, LL Cool J and even Budden dissed him
@TheBrob1983
@TheBrob1983 6 жыл бұрын
Fly King Jay never retired he dropped how many more albums after the g-unit murder inc beef
@jman1562001
@jman1562001 6 жыл бұрын
Well a lot of NY rappers on Def Jam got zero promo (Ghostface, Meth, LL Cool J, DMX, etc.) while Kingdom Come was getting all type of promo so that's one point. But I think the up and coming NY rappers could not surprass the cats who came before. Fab is cool, but he ain't Jay!!! Kiss keep it street and is lyrical, but Nas is next level!!! Busta and Fat Joe had hits thru the South run so NY wasn't not getting attention. The NY mixtape rapper of 2000 just didn't make DOPE records for the time. NY producers got neglected and NY DJs started playing all type of South rappers PERIOD!!!
@blackwisdom528
@blackwisdom528 6 жыл бұрын
TheBrob1983 Jay Z was retired during G-Unit's dominance(2004-2006). Jay held New York albums back at Def Jam while 50 was destroying the city with Rap Beef.
@ulyssesgarcia-ramiez3785
@ulyssesgarcia-ramiez3785 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly 50 Cent and Kanye killed NY hip hop, that sales competition really ended 50's run, while Kanye was taking in the glory
@RoddyRodbb
@RoddyRodbb 6 жыл бұрын
Fly King damn good point
@StreetsNeedIt
@StreetsNeedIt 5 жыл бұрын
These episodes were so good man
@shawzy1875
@shawzy1875 6 жыл бұрын
Its well known 50 & G-Unit were threatening broadcasters not to play Murder Inc. artists...Dre & Em were guilty of that shit too
@jasonarno9560
@jasonarno9560 3 жыл бұрын
Really?
@juicyjay8642
@juicyjay8642 2 жыл бұрын
Murder Inc was already falling off before 50 exploded. Nelly ran hip hop in 02. He is criminally disrespected.
@lifestraight
@lifestraight 6 жыл бұрын
People need to stop believing the myth that "Everybody in the south gets along and works with each other." Gucci beefed with Young Jeezy and T.I.; T.I. beefed with Lil Flip and Shawty Lo; Bankroll Fresh beefed with No Plug; Cash Money beefed with No Limit; Master P beefed with Pimp C....
@biggucci1652
@biggucci1652 6 жыл бұрын
Maino is right I’m from the south but my dad is from NY spent a lot of time in NY growing up. When I was up there I heard more south than NY rappers on the radio. I gotta blame the New York radios.
@cesarporras9255
@cesarporras9255 6 жыл бұрын
Big Gucci exactly dude the djs in Ny Nj supporting south Music and left out east coast
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Phife Dawg (RIP) said something to that effect in 2000 after he moved to Atlanta visiting New York.
@ShayOfficial317
@ShayOfficial317 6 жыл бұрын
I like Maino with them... This energy was everything!!!
@KaizerSozaye
@KaizerSozaye 9 ай бұрын
God this was such a great segment!
@DCMFR
@DCMFR 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Budden usually be super animated and cutting Ak off mid sentence. He's showing the utmost respect to Maino tho. Lmfao.
@TheKondinho
@TheKondinho 6 жыл бұрын
with reason lol
@Righteousgenius
@Righteousgenius 6 жыл бұрын
Dame he ain't crazy he know how Maino get down
@SkiMask_P
@SkiMask_P 6 жыл бұрын
Dave East and Joey Badass revived it.
@Zuri_SM
@Zuri_SM 6 жыл бұрын
facts
@ItsCleto
@ItsCleto 6 жыл бұрын
It never died.. Just sat back and watched
@AaronSoDope
@AaronSoDope 6 жыл бұрын
Patrice barely, dave east has yet to release a national hit and joey barely scratched the surface with devastated
@glox_47
@glox_47 6 жыл бұрын
Flatbush Zombies been on the come up too.
@kingquan9286
@kingquan9286 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Murrell it's not about hit records. It's about real hip hop.
@TheAdamSmasherMultiverse
@TheAdamSmasherMultiverse 6 жыл бұрын
This is why this is realest Hip Hop show on the tube. Excellent conversation
@pwr2dappl175
@pwr2dappl175 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best debates in everyday struggle . RIP
@dougiemoyo3050
@dougiemoyo3050 5 жыл бұрын
Joe is the essence of everyday struggle
@0an0ym0us
@0an0ym0us 6 жыл бұрын
Get 50 on the show so he can tell Joe wassup!
@usernotfound904
@usernotfound904 6 жыл бұрын
Damn! Good looking out maino!! I totally forgot about Joe Buddens' FOCUS!!!! WHAT A FUCKIN' BANGER!!!! THAT BEAT!??? WHEWWWW STRAIGHT COKE!!!!!!!
@ejh213
@ejh213 6 жыл бұрын
Great input from nadeska...
@nazzysosa2279
@nazzysosa2279 6 жыл бұрын
50 controlled the rap game from 2003-2007 he's a icon
@popsygaza5649
@popsygaza5649 6 жыл бұрын
50 cent and g unit had the mainstream and the mixtape game lock away from dipset at the time 03-06 people didnt care about any other new york artist bcuz 50 was such a monster. he had the greatest run in hip hop history.
@354allday
@354allday 6 жыл бұрын
Popsy Sheldon Only G Unit fans think like that
@Ryan92184
@Ryan92184 6 жыл бұрын
Cam'Ron Purple Haze came out in November of 2004 and was fire and was his last album on Rocafella...
@luxw8579
@luxw8579 6 жыл бұрын
Street battlers and guys that just had a passion for spitting for they surroundings kepted hip hop alive while the industry had celebrities selling they soul....so hip hop nevered,,died in the streets,,,,just the industry.......real talk
@tavariscrosby
@tavariscrosby 6 жыл бұрын
NY rap died when lil Wayne, ludicris, T.I. came with that 🔥🔥🔥
@lifestraight
@lifestraight 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone talking about NY rap dying but west coast ain't had a heartbeat in years. Only artist is Game.
@Hikmah1995
@Hikmah1995 6 жыл бұрын
lifestraight You smoking dust. West coast been more relevant than the rest coast. The bay area, and Compton are always releasing hits. They're going through a renaissance at this moment.
@lifestraight
@lifestraight 6 жыл бұрын
Not really. I mean you got Game, Kendrick, and Schoolboy I'll give you that, but only the first two can rap. I don't really count Nipsey Hussle like that but if he making noise out there I guess I got to give him props.
@roywoods8058
@roywoods8058 6 жыл бұрын
It's all about the South now. Chicago had a wave from 2012-2015 2016 is debatable but besides the Drill wave and this new SoundCloud wave it's just all Trap
@albertedmond9134
@albertedmond9134 5 жыл бұрын
lifestraight Kendrick dead?
@traegrant480
@traegrant480 6 жыл бұрын
Joe schooling these young men tho!
@chachisadventures3378
@chachisadventures3378 6 жыл бұрын
Where tf has Maino been????
@matemaatonga9177
@matemaatonga9177 6 жыл бұрын
BIG CHACHI hes been in the closet
@0neup1
@0neup1 6 жыл бұрын
Fucking melo wife
@TheBrob1983
@TheBrob1983 6 жыл бұрын
BIG CHACHI Brooklyn
@chachisadventures3378
@chachisadventures3378 6 жыл бұрын
joe crcok bruuuuuuuh 😂😂😂
@declantobin2129
@declantobin2129 6 жыл бұрын
Shooting tupac
@karterluca4189
@karterluca4189 6 жыл бұрын
50 look like he was gonna cry he was so mad
@rasheedslypoet9862
@rasheedslypoet9862 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Joe it was real shame that Ja's career died because his shit was FIRE
@NSHVELL
@NSHVELL 6 жыл бұрын
*Early gang*
@backbonedray7612
@backbonedray7612 6 жыл бұрын
50 strategically made himself a legend, not too many people have the wind or the guts to do what he did in hip hop
@thesword9200
@thesword9200 6 жыл бұрын
I feel that’s what going on in Houston, Tx
@coolnesss16
@coolnesss16 6 жыл бұрын
West Coast is low-key movin right now
@VIKTORVOGHNDOOM
@VIKTORVOGHNDOOM 6 жыл бұрын
Ebro Killed NYC hip-hop radio. plain and simple.
@liveevil238
@liveevil238 6 жыл бұрын
It's a combination of things, not just 5cent...you got the Labels, radio program director & DJs that played a part in it..
@byouzs973
@byouzs973 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Budden voice sounds like that one drunk uncle that used to get high and smokes a lot of cigarettes and always got a story to tell.
@BillionaireDreamin
@BillionaireDreamin 6 жыл бұрын
How y'all blame 50 and Ebro and not funkflex He The Main Reason TBH
@cesarporras9255
@cesarporras9255 6 жыл бұрын
Billionaire Dreamin it’s most of the East coast djs bro
@deandremaddox6555
@deandremaddox6555 6 жыл бұрын
Jeezy and gucci had beef
@allday4224
@allday4224 6 жыл бұрын
Get Rich or Die Trying is still the best gym album of all time till this day 😎💪🏻👊🏻
@bg23allday1
@bg23allday1 6 жыл бұрын
Peep the stare joe gave Ak at 13:05 like “who said you can laugh bitch” lmao
@ikeplumo3336
@ikeplumo3336 6 жыл бұрын
the wack rappers ruined it
@354allday
@354allday 6 жыл бұрын
Parthion Plays what wack rapper
@ikeplumo3336
@ikeplumo3336 6 жыл бұрын
JERU maino
@razorramon8233
@razorramon8233 6 жыл бұрын
Ras kass . Kendrick . Kurupt . daz . Tde . Planet Asia . Krooked I . Suga free . Holding it down westcoast style 👍👍👍
@tonyjones-clark4960
@tonyjones-clark4960 6 жыл бұрын
NY had desencion way before 50. That was partly why Eminem said he signed 50 cent. "It was the same beefs and the same crews"- Eminem. 50 cent was a breath of fresh air for Eminem; even B.I.G. mentions this in an interview. Where he says "I thought all these rappers I saw in the magazine's where friends and hanging out together " . He was like(while shaking his head) "It is not like that ". Alliances were already made before 50 got in the game. It was just that alliances got tested when 50 was beefing with JaRule. You can't credit 50 for the decline in New York Hip Hop- he is NY Hip Hop. Peace!
@shanesylvester8486
@shanesylvester8486 6 жыл бұрын
He's the voice of New York hip hop he paved the way
@hitmeezy1
@hitmeezy1 6 жыл бұрын
New York Killed New York music...
@wizzard7907
@wizzard7907 6 жыл бұрын
50 is the reason it remained alive. Now its Joey Badass carrying NYC on his back.
@hrmnrrrmcshnrr1107
@hrmnrrrmcshnrr1107 6 жыл бұрын
Grassy Lungs fbz too
@brooklyn1daful
@brooklyn1daful 6 жыл бұрын
joey badass is weak asf DAVE EAST AND DON Q
@speed_797
@speed_797 6 жыл бұрын
Diamond information in the video
@lewjones3
@lewjones3 6 жыл бұрын
Joe's song "Focus" was so cold..one of my favorite of all time
@user-qi1nn9vg3x
@user-qi1nn9vg3x 6 жыл бұрын
Ebro be on some new crack wave
@truthhurts9220
@truthhurts9220 6 жыл бұрын
50 saved hip hop. Before 50 it was trash ja rule Grease records.
@truthhurts9220
@truthhurts9220 6 жыл бұрын
And thank 50 for what mixtapes are today.
@percymillier2891
@percymillier2891 6 жыл бұрын
TruthHurts thank u
@datboyk3261
@datboyk3261 6 жыл бұрын
TruthHurts Real shit
@sizzle3207
@sizzle3207 6 жыл бұрын
How old are you
@truthhurts9220
@truthhurts9220 6 жыл бұрын
+Sergio Ja Rule was a pop artist not a rapper. No way anyone named “Sergio” knows anything about hip hop.
@matthewmanafi
@matthewmanafi 6 жыл бұрын
Shady aftermath + fifty cent = my childhood happiness
@gregflue3151
@gregflue3151 5 жыл бұрын
Joe you are 100% correct....now il lived in Brooklyn from 1992 to 1998.. i'm from Chicago where they was doing the same thing as NEWYORK. At that time in New York i was doing rap promotions for EMI. NEWYORK was paying their own artist first and foremost but their was not much unity in the streets , everybody was clicked up based of blocks and projects . chicago was the same way. But recently chicago has learned from Atlanta your have to cultivate your own first. So yeh ebro playing artist from Atlanta over newyork artist if it's not controlled properly is responsible to the artist that live there. It's love having a restaurant in New York that was patronized by New York people but once the restaurant got big it started only selling to people from another state and giving these people all the daily specials
@shotbynolan1705
@shotbynolan1705 6 жыл бұрын
Joe bodied that I swear. I used to think 50 caused a divide in the city. 50 isn't a factor but not whole reason. The internet does have a major effect on ny run.
@TheBrob1983
@TheBrob1983 6 жыл бұрын
Shot By Nolan the internet wasn't a factor till after 08 09 that's when the streaming started and all the youtube rappers
@doomassthenightcrawler
@doomassthenightcrawler 6 жыл бұрын
Joe out here schooling the whole shits
@GQMofo
@GQMofo 6 жыл бұрын
Everybody plays a role in NY Hip Hop being killed. But one main reason is that a NY talent(s) hasn't been discovered. Most labels are going to the places that have the sounds that's mad hot at the time, which in this case is the South. Jay Z and other Old School artists have branched to other things where they don't have the time and energy to contribute enough of their resources to find young talent in NY. I'm a born and raised NY'ker, from where Hip Hop was created, the Boogie Down Bx saying this. And I'm mad saddened by the lack of talent coming from home. But I feel that a Biggie is coming soon. Everybody knows back in the day, Biggie woke up NY Hip Hop, brought that energy back, changed it and throughout the 90s, it was a fuckin NY Renaissance. After he passed, Hov took over and it remained until the early 2000s when Maino, Joe and 50 came out. After that, Kanye, Eminem, Nelly, Luda, TI, OutKast and all them were at their peak and it was a wrap since then. Another main reason is US, the buying public. If we don't buy the albums and songs from any NY artist that comes out, the labels aren't going to waste their time and energy. So point blank, we ALL are to blame for NY Hip Hop being killed in this generation. But I know for a FACT that it'll be woke again, just have to be patient.
@Double_S.R.
@Double_S.R. 6 жыл бұрын
Joe was on point! I agree with Budden 💯
@hiphoprbloverjon9180
@hiphoprbloverjon9180 6 жыл бұрын
No, record companies in NY did when they started signing southern ringtone rappers.
@barshookshiphoptv3727
@barshookshiphoptv3727 6 жыл бұрын
HipHopR&BLover Jon that's part of it cause they stop looking at talent an wanted rappers who they can control with those 360 deals an selling out for money
@cam_1934
@cam_1934 6 жыл бұрын
Yo maino schooled Joe. I've been saying this whole time all Joe does is speak theories rarely any facts. Always what he assumes and believes whatever he assumes.
@NM-xr9pi
@NM-xr9pi 5 жыл бұрын
Maino need to come teach my Pop. Culture course one day...
@NockaMama
@NockaMama 6 жыл бұрын
Good one...
@Jon97han
@Jon97han 6 жыл бұрын
*STAPLE GUN*
@truthentertainment2889
@truthentertainment2889 6 жыл бұрын
50 cent didn't kill NYC hip hop. NYC let hip hop die by follow the Down South trends and not keeping NEw York, New York.. That's what happened...
@laurynjones4845
@laurynjones4845 6 жыл бұрын
50 snitch did by beefing with every damn body in NYC. And that allowed the south to take over and capitalize that's why down south took over just look at 50 snitch now still problematic as hell.
@Maulleygxxx
@Maulleygxxx 6 жыл бұрын
Funny how Joey barking at Akademiks, but mad mellow with Maino 😂🤣
@eon001
@eon001 6 жыл бұрын
If one man can kill a whole scene in NY, then you didn't have a strong enough scene to begin with.
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 4 жыл бұрын
Like the West after 2Pac died?
@selfmadetv7856
@selfmadetv7856 6 жыл бұрын
music evolution killed hip hop
@selfmadetv7856
@selfmadetv7856 6 жыл бұрын
Its barely Hip Hop anymore. Rapping still exists tho
@buttermadetv
@buttermadetv 6 жыл бұрын
Yes 50 has a hand in it...
@thelucianiancu
@thelucianiancu 5 жыл бұрын
1:29 AK is in love with Joe 😍😍😍
@cedmondson2
@cedmondson2 6 жыл бұрын
Maino best guest yet
@TheSanjay1234567890
@TheSanjay1234567890 6 жыл бұрын
Every comment here starts with "50"
@ItsCleto
@ItsCleto 6 жыл бұрын
Sanjay Kalra Probably because this video's about him
@Adonis20529
@Adonis20529 5 жыл бұрын
50 said I'm from new york but I sound southern. He switched the sound of hip hop to Atlanta.
@selfishstockton6123
@selfishstockton6123 3 жыл бұрын
He does not sound southern at ALL
@n9ner831
@n9ner831 6 жыл бұрын
I'm from Cali and 50cent was the only artist out of New York I would listen to at that point.
@MCC2110
@MCC2110 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best debate I’ve seen so far, a debate with AK goes nowhere
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