if you had said that turkeys were used to pull wagons and not shown your wagon along with them pics i would have never believed you thats just awesome
@glennmiller90315 жыл бұрын
What a great little wagon /sleigh. The things I see here never cease to amaze me.
@wayneshirey69995 жыл бұрын
Of course a Turkey can pull a wagon. I see turkeys driving cars every time I get in traffic.
@jpkalishek45865 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Draco Legacy
@michelsimard10655 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@steamfan71475 жыл бұрын
Haha..snort! LOL
@Dave-ty2qp5 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Draco Just barely domesticated, but very unruly. LOL
@jimraq15 жыл бұрын
Turkeys or Jackasses?
@johnfox46915 жыл бұрын
Spent the whole video wanting to put chocks under the wheels to stop it rolling off the table saw. Absolutely fascinating - thank you!
@genegoodman52335 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking time to show this to us. It's nice to know that maybe 130 years ago someone has the same desire as you to make things the right way. I'm sure you have had a wonderful life working with your passion to build stuff as they are ment to be. Stay safe
@brw30795 жыл бұрын
I couldn't imagine what you were going to do as an encore to the borax water wagon. You managed to surprise us yet again. I just can't get over your depth of knowledge. Thank you once more for your generous sharing of your time and knowledge.
@scotthaddad5635 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad that I found your channel. You sir are producing content that provides me with a little respite from all of the negativity and corruption which tends to find its way into every little nook and cranny. I would have loved to have a mentor such as yourself when I was coming up. Enjoy your work, I know that you do.
@PilotMcbride5 жыл бұрын
With the skids on, a St Bernard with his brandy cask wouldn't look out of place pulling it, 😆. What a great project!! 🇦🇺 🍺🍺
@GrizzlyGroundswell5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, I think you could of named this "How Wagon's Work" as by you walking us through this wagon you showed us the components that make these wagons tick. Design wise they were pretty damn brilliant. Glad your bringing back the majesty to these wonderful tools that should never be forgotten, as we no doubt will need them once again if only for inspiration!
@slashusr5 жыл бұрын
Once again, sir, you afford us all a rare glimpse of the work (and play) of yesteryear. Our ancestors surely possessed a genius for taking the bounty of nature and, based upon millennia of trial, error, and refinement; through the ages of stone, bronze, iron, and steel, built the tools that built the tools to forge, draw, weld, sharpen, fell, cut, plane and finish all that was needful for themselves and their children. Now lines of code and molecular deposition printing may change the face of our future, but skills such as you possess in so great a measure must never be lost. You are a true National Treasure, Mr. Engels, and I am so very grateful for this ongoing record of your work.
@tomcarlson32444 жыл бұрын
Very fun. Some kids are lucky enough to have a small version of what dad drives.
@davidpuls97675 жыл бұрын
Dave your videos never disappoint. Very interesting indeed. I'm 70 and never heard of this. Goes to show you are never too old to learn something new.
@deathvalleyalex94855 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing such a rare glimpse of history . Seeing such gems thru your eyes is a real treat thank you sir .
@vilsiran5 жыл бұрын
I’m from St.Paris Ohio. Pony wagon town. I remember some small wagons. But thats been 70 years ago. Your reproduction wheel are just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
@evilbrat53765 жыл бұрын
This is One of the reasons I watch this channel - educated about the past with the soft touch. Something learned again ~ kids wagons pulled by turkeys....them gobbler kind though
@77gravity5 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why the front wheels were smaller, I just assumed it reduced the turning effort (less ground contact). Now I find out it is due to the engineering of the axle pivot. Another piece of interesting data slipped into flow. Thank you.
@quentintin15 жыл бұрын
i knew dogs were used as draft animals with the Belgian army using them in WWI to pull machine-gun and ammunition carts, but this one's new to me thanks for sharing this little bit of history with us
@philbox45665 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather owned and operated a coach and buggy works with an incorporated black smith works as well. His son who was my grandfather was a true artist with paint. He was given the job of using the dagger liner paint brush to put the thin decorative stripes with feathered ends on them on the wagons and buggies. Apparently the family history story goes that he could decorate one side of the vehicle with quite the artistic flourish and then go to the other side and recreate exactly what he'd previously done. What was also said anecdotally of course that this was a rare skill and most sought after.
@Kaptain13Gonzo5 жыл бұрын
A comment in passing on a YT video leads to a full blown discussion, analysis and yet another video. this is amazing. Plus, I learned something today , which is always a good thing. Thank you.
@dankolar60665 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Hereabouts, the turkey aren't especially docile. Last fall, the highway patrol, along with the game & parks officials, had a problem with a tom that felt his territory included a 4-lane US Highway. In the old days, he'd just gotten rundown, but we live in more sensitive days. He and his flock were relocated to a state park. The TV crews loved it.
@deeparks31122 жыл бұрын
Bingo! Light goes on... "I shoulda been a Turkey Wrangler! Thanks Dave, really interesting history you presented, enjoyed it.
@davidharris65815 жыл бұрын
Cute little wagon. Dave, if you tell me a rooster is going to pull a plow, I'm going to go get the harness! One thing about turkeys. Turkeys get mean and aggressive when they get mature. I have seen them attack a small child. After letting some get too big and too old a time or two I never felt bad about chopping their heads off for Thanksgiving again.
@paulnels1085 жыл бұрын
When I was in southern Germany near Oberstdorf in 1970 I saw a farmer with a wagon that size with about 6 milk cans in it pulled by a big dog. The dog did not seen to be having a hard time at all .. in fact it look happy walking along with the farmer.. small wagons are not just toys for kids!
@bitsnpieces115 жыл бұрын
There is a movie about a young boy and his dog in ?Belgium? I think. The boy lived with his grandfather and the dog pulled a small wagon loaded with the goats milk cans to market in the city. It was a really good story and was a description of dogs that really existed and were used for just that task.
@BillB235 жыл бұрын
I'd always thought of turkeys as food, not draft animals. Ya learn something new every day. Thanks once again, Dave, for letting us watch.
@clydo19465 жыл бұрын
My father who was born in 1909 had one like this. It had a pole and shafts, an ornate body with seat. Instead of the steam bent bolster it had the square bolted type. My grandfather had made a more farm type body for it. My fathers mistake was letting us play with it and not properly care for it. Oh how smarter we get as we get older.
@gerardjohnson21065 жыл бұрын
Beautiful miniature wagons. Would need to pull a mule sledge in front of that little sled to knock down deep snow. Maybe Bobby Tanner could train you a team of turkeys to pull that little wagon. And maybe a dog to drive the turkey drawn wagon. Engels Circus. ;-) Thanks for sharing.
@DebdeK5 жыл бұрын
the photos from Paton (smugmug) were awesome, i remember snow drifts like that up at Havre, mt when i was little. our first winter we melted snow for house water (about 1955?) what a treasure, the spoiled children & adults of today dont realize what we had. truly awesome, thank you!
@talltimberswoodshop75525 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that bit of history.
@steamfan71475 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed at the detail that was put into a lot of old toys from that era.
@mergrew01105 жыл бұрын
It's good to hearing you talking Turkey, you always do.
@rogermarshall89915 жыл бұрын
I saw a wagon of that size somewhere a few years back. I have no idea where it was but the detail was intriguing. Seems it was set up for winter use & the runners were installed. Man, miss one episode and you got it all changed up to children's toys ha ha.. Now I've got to back up & catch the missed video. Thanks for your video & knowage, you share. Always a winner. It's a pleasure to watch.
@albertjagt57135 жыл бұрын
Oh my! How wonderful!!! Now I can see you build a 'miniature' Borax wagon!!! Lol! Thank you for a change of pace and do a little history lesson for our enjoyment!
@johnjones48253 жыл бұрын
Dave, I see in you the same passion I have for old stuff. Nice to see that little wagon in it's original and unrestored state. Of course, the few little old pieces of furniture I restore, I try to get back to brand new condition, mainly because I get them in such a dreadful condition. My model aircraft also get as much attention to detail as possible, hence the months and months I spend on them. Very nice little wagon! (Edit: How the hell do you train a turkey?)
@tonybirdwell29175 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the photos of turkeys pulling a wagon. I have never heard of disc a thing.
@francislematt70795 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for answering with a full descriptive video and image links to my casual comment in the previous one! Greetings from Prague, Czech Republic!
@josephwinkler48635 жыл бұрын
Wow talk about a rare bird I like the fact that you left it mostly how you purchased it other than what needed to be fixed . Very nice
@tomtruesdale69015 жыл бұрын
What a a wonderful history lesson. Thank you for sharing.
@ruperthartop72025 жыл бұрын
Interesting. One of the links mentions a kids wagon pulled by an Alligator!! Haha how times have changed. Thanks for sharing
@JustinLaudano5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Engels, Thank you very much for sharing you time making these videos!!! Your a great teacher!
@Crewsy5 жыл бұрын
That little wagon is absolutely amazing. Once you added the sled runners to it it reminded me of the sleds my Dad’s Dad made for us as kids back in the 60’s and 70’s. We called them our Newfie Sleds because they were miniature versions of the style of sled my Dad would pull behind his horse the get fire wood.
@patmancrowley85095 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having!
@Garth20115 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that be something to have used as a child and then carry on the memory to tell the story...like Dave explains. Never heard of turkeys pulling a wagon, just the smaller 4 footed animals. Kind of cute but surely something that would make a memory for life.
@jamesdoble75805 жыл бұрын
That lil' wagon is so kool, I wished they still made me. I have room for one that size. lol Thank you for sharing.
@stun97715 жыл бұрын
Fascinating....would love to see that restored, and driven by Turkeys...👍🏻
@stephenhoover61045 жыл бұрын
all the kids in the pic. look so happy. those turkeys must be hard to hold.
@EmmaRitson5 жыл бұрын
i imagine getting two turkeys to pull steady and both in the same direction might be a challenge.as always though, an amazing video
@brambruijnzeel5 жыл бұрын
That was a nice one Dave, totally on the other side of the spectrum. As always nicely brought by you. Thanks again!
@ronmack17675 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video Mr Engel. That was interesting. Neat little children's wagon. I wonder if wagon companies made miniature wagons that they used as sales samples of the full size wagons and they also sold them as children's wagons. Many companies years ago made miniature versions of their products as samples. Y'all take care and God bless.
@fronniebealer78085 жыл бұрын
I have a little cast iron stove used as a demo for salesman. It is adorable.
@tpniefer5 жыл бұрын
Your knowledge of your trade is incredible. Please keep up the excellent work.
@raymondhorvatin10505 жыл бұрын
beautiful wagon and quite a back story very nice
@johnkinnane5475 жыл бұрын
G’day and thank you for showing that, you got me I’ve never heard of using turkeys to pull a little wagon. The wagon itself is beautifully made and the wheels you made for it look terrific, it was a great time in history when people actually made things with their hands thank you once again I never get tired of watching your channel. One thing before I go turkeys I would assume that they would have taken a bit to control their not one of Gods’ smartest creatures keep well kind regards John🇦🇺
@Tafs3155 жыл бұрын
Thanks, for showing this I've never seen anything like this before. I have been on a farm when I was younger only see the tradition larger wagons. I like to see you build a version of this and get turkeys to pull it or dog or the goats.
@frogmann495 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for another type glimpse into the past. Also enjoyed the pictures of the native Canadians.
@tonyv38605 жыл бұрын
You are truly a craftsman. Thanks for sharing.
@gordybishop23755 жыл бұрын
Thank-you for sharing this nice story
@dananelson4795 жыл бұрын
You mentioned turkeys the other day. With all the details, that's more than a toy. Thanks for sharing.
@tphvictims51015 жыл бұрын
I remember the old 20 turkey team wagons, they hauled gold ore. And the piece you have there is absolutely amazing 👍🏻 Brilliant 👍🏻
@freddiebates55395 жыл бұрын
I saw a little wagon similar to yours in a museum in Maine and yes it had runners too. Thanks for your time.
@bwayne400045 жыл бұрын
Super interesting opposite side of the spectrum from the large wagons. I've seen photos here and there of small wagons but this is the first time I've seen anything up close. Thank you once again.
@cliffp.83965 жыл бұрын
Wow that's truly entertaining, thanks for sharing Dave.
@HongKongMeOH5 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this story, greeting from Hong Kong.
@SekTauBand5 жыл бұрын
you still alive in HK? getting dangerous there!
@rodneywroten29945 жыл бұрын
Very nice Mr. Engels
@remko12385 жыл бұрын
The Queen bold... King pin... for a little prins or princess 👑 Amazing info as usual,, thank you again,, all the way from Amsterdam.
@scottywisely61805 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this.
@decreb445 жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us see what you do. I don’t have a channel but it must be a lot more to enable us to see you do what you do. Thank you
@ajtaylor5605 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one. Found a family I had lost track of via the everettebakerslides which was an excellent slide show. You never know what's going to happen on KZbin!!
@HorochovPL5 жыл бұрын
Man, Your little wagon is so lovely!
@juantransportador5 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you for sharing this story and this is part of history.
@ronwhite67195 жыл бұрын
Great history lesson and a great find. Maybe we can see it again this winter?
@duanelundgren79855 жыл бұрын
What an absolute DELIGHT!! I'm kinda partial to the sleds, drawn by draft or even tractors.. Someday, perhaps, you'll get into building runners and I'm INTERESTED!!! Thank You, Mr. Dave!!!
@anchor20565 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you for the history lesson.
@arnhemseptember20095 жыл бұрын
Truly lovely piece
@simidhel5 жыл бұрын
A fascinating wagon and thank you for sharing such a detailed overview of it, as well as the links to the images. In subsequent searches I also came across some examples of similar *ostrich-drawn wagons* - _(a google image search for ostrich drawn wagon should yield several results)_
@MadDawg911085 жыл бұрын
Great story, Dave.... thanks for sharing. That little wagon is pretty neat. Somebody put a lot of time into building it.
@alansmith47345 жыл бұрын
The Ford Model T was similar to that wagon. There was an optional set of skis for the front, to replace the wheels. Only good in snow!
@rtkville5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and I enjoyed very much,thank you!
@howardnielsen622011 ай бұрын
Dave Thank You
@cliffordfender11595 жыл бұрын
This is very cool !!! As smart as I think I am, I knew none of this.... Thanks again for another great watch !! Your friend here in south west Michigan, Cliff
@rickfehrenback38515 жыл бұрын
I love the little wagon it's neat. Thank you for sharing this.
@JimG315475 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and thank you for sharing
@danbreyfogle84865 жыл бұрын
That is amazing, thank you for sharing this bit of history.
@brownmilligan19365 жыл бұрын
li con see a child having a ball in the snow with this. thanks.
@vancemarin80225 жыл бұрын
You never cease to amaze me !!!!
@doctwiggenberry53245 жыл бұрын
My wife was watching with me and she said she would give her eye teeth for that wagon. I said she does not have enough eye teeth..Love that wagon.
@stangerranch5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Love your work.
@justinmills80845 жыл бұрын
That's a neat wagon.
@rodfair56985 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@bluemtnsman5 жыл бұрын
Amazing,,, just simply amazing.
@Rspri101045 жыл бұрын
Very Cool and Unique. Thanks for sharing.
@zweg13215 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful wagon you have
@unclebuzz69135 жыл бұрын
IF TURKEYS WERE AS BIG AS DRAFT HORSES ,COULD YOU IMAGINE JUST HOW MUCH THEY COULD PULL? THEIR WINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE CLIPPED ,OR YOU'D BE MISTAKEN FOR SANTA,TURKEYS ARE FAST ,HAVE YOU EVER HUNTED THEM?THEY CAN SCOOT AND FLY .. REALLY AN AWESOME VIDEO ,AS I STOPPED AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THE OLD PICTURES. HAVE YOU EVER BUILT /REFURBISHED AN OLD OX CART OR A WAGON PULLED BY A TEAM OF OXEN? GREAT STUFF GOD BLESS YOU,YOUR FAMILY AND HOME
@SingleStacked5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Must have been a wagon for a wealthy families child. Thought we'd see you hook up the turkeys...LOL! Thanks for the vid!
@Reziac4 жыл бұрын
Oh, that's a lovely little wagon. Kinda odd that all four wheels were absent.... I wonder if it didn't originally have anything but the runners. Great job making everything match and turning it into a proper convertible. :) BTW I'm getting Microsoft News endcard on this'un, thanks to the crosslinking of your accounts.
@duanelundgren79855 жыл бұрын
I like how the spokes are staggered in the hubs :-)
@alasdairhamilton15745 жыл бұрын
What no pictures of you aged 6 building wagons 👍🏴
@brw30795 жыл бұрын
What, there were cameras that long ago!? (I can say that because Mr. Engels and I were born in the same year!)
@kimmy_future42655 жыл бұрын
that is so cool! thank you for sharing!
@jimlangley8405 жыл бұрын
You piqued my curiosity, saw 2 different styles, 1 with wooden wheels & a box, the other with bicycle style wheels that resembled a Surry without a top.
@steveskouson96205 жыл бұрын
That wagon looks just a bit easier to move around, compared to the Borax wagons! steve
@davanders20065 жыл бұрын
That is so cool. I am going to attempt this project. Thanks for Sharing. So cool