Did Archimedes Write a Problem That Took 2,200 Years to Solve?

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Ben Syversen

Ben Syversen

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@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
There’s one other hypothesis about who wrote this that I found but didn’t mention in the video: Some propose that the original problem can be traced back to Archimedes but the poem itself was written later. Indeed, Archimedes was not much of a poet: some scholars that I read described Archimedes’ use of language as very simple. Suitable for expressing mathematical ideas but not poetry.
@McBloodFart
@McBloodFart 8 ай бұрын
archimedeez nuts
@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache
@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache 8 ай бұрын
​@@McBloodFartArchimedes if he was a good poet:
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 8 ай бұрын
Do you know how old is the oldest manuscript we have? I wonder how fast would the problem run on a modern laptop. Less than 8h in a 1965 computer does not seem large by current standars.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
@@jaimeduncan6167 Yeah there are instructions online for how to set up MatLab to solve this problem. I think it could probably be done on an iPhone these days.
@HorrorMakesUsHappy
@HorrorMakesUsHappy 7 ай бұрын
@2:27 when you "multiply by a least common denominator" ... Other than trial and error, was there some way to know to multiply by 891? Also, please do a video describing the geometric method mentioned at @1:19. I wonder if there were geometric methods for the other 3 parts to his riddle.
@admiralpiglet
@admiralpiglet 8 ай бұрын
Archimedes was such a boss that not only he created a math problem for the ages, he also managed to present it in a poem form!
@Vernand1
@Vernand1 7 ай бұрын
Some of the first ever theories about atoms were also written in poems. I highly recommend you read it, it's interesting what conclusions they drew from what they were able to observe
@wheedler
@wheedler 7 ай бұрын
@@Vernand1 Read what?
@Vernand1
@Vernand1 7 ай бұрын
@@wheedler On the nature of things, by Lucretius
@zathary564
@zathary564 7 ай бұрын
I heard math questions between ancient mathematicians were always written in poems. They didn't have a universal algebraic equation model like us, so they wrote it in words and whole sentences.
@zathary564
@zathary564 7 ай бұрын
I heard math questions between ancient mathematicians were always written in poems. They didn't have a universal algebraic equation model like us, so they wrote it in words and whole sentences.
@TeaRiker
@TeaRiker 8 ай бұрын
Math problems today: Solve this problem now!! :(( Ancient math problems: If you art diligent and wise, *formulates the problem as a one page long poetry*
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Yes indeed 🧐😂
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 7 ай бұрын
@@bensyversen It sure took the invention of the early modern computer, with its processing power and storage, to do it. How much time would it take mathematicians in Illinois, working by hand, to crank out such a number? Probably till the sun dies, by a gut guess, and that's if it proceeded mistake-free.
@antipastamony
@antipastamony 7 ай бұрын
back in high school my friends and I turned in an incredibly dumb word problem that was over a page long for a geometry project. it was entitled “the purposeful porta-potty problem” and while we got an A we were banned from writing long word problems by our teacher, a badge we wore with honor. I’d link it for your amusement, but I’m not sure youtube would like that very much.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
@@antipastamony Haha that sounds awesome.
@Sagitarria
@Sagitarria 7 ай бұрын
@@bensyversenit’s perfectly possible to use a modern translation rather then one in archaic English
@NatetheNerdy
@NatetheNerdy 8 ай бұрын
I just want to point out that the first half of the riddle alone was seen as something that only the greatest minds could solve, and yet it's now a problem we expect our children to learn without pomp or circumstance. There is beauty in thaf fact.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely true
@oldvlognewtricks
@oldvlognewtricks 7 ай бұрын
Same as circumnavigating the globe. Once a mark of a great adventurer: now as simple as paying for a few plane tickets.
7 ай бұрын
I don't think children solve sets of diophantine equations. Even though this one look easy. It would be a tough riddle for advanced university level of mathematics.
@rossjennings4755
@rossjennings4755 7 ай бұрын
In the first half, all the equations are completely linear, and the "diophantine" part doesn't require anything more complicated than multiplying through by a common denominator. A sufficiently dedicated 8th-grader could work out the solution using techniques learned in an algebra class. The second half is much harder though.
@travisray2934
@travisray2934 7 ай бұрын
I would have zero expectation that a child could work this problem out lol. Certainly on their own. Just the wording is archaic and difficult to understand fully (for me, I'm sure I'll be corrected on how it's actually the simplest thing ever to understand) and that's not even touching the math. I'm sure that there are plenty of 8th graders that can solve these things nowadays but to expect it is crazy to me. More like, "wow, that kid solved this? Bet he/she is fckn brilliant". Albeit I'm a bit of a dope myself. Especially with math 😅
@QuickSmasherEXE
@QuickSmasherEXE 7 ай бұрын
Man, can you believe they fit all those cattle on the island of Sicily?
@renaatsenechal
@renaatsenechal 7 ай бұрын
Factory farming has to end
@life_is_a_myth
@life_is_a_myth 7 ай бұрын
​@@renaatsenechalNo to veganism
@sandermez3856
@sandermez3856 6 ай бұрын
they didn't. those are the children of the cows. s the cows and bulls where on the island but perhaps not children afterwards?
@pdonettes
@pdonettes 6 ай бұрын
They were very small cattle.
@DhoklaAboveVadapav
@DhoklaAboveVadapav 5 ай бұрын
@@pdonettes I am pretty sure that the smallest of cattles are bigger than atoms.
@acenutella1196
@acenutella1196 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be funny if he actually knew the answer and was the only person to know for 2200 years
@aceman0000099
@aceman0000099 8 ай бұрын
It would be a fucking groundbreaking discovery in the field of human biology to be honest
@ensiehsafary7633
@ensiehsafary7633 8 ай бұрын
Yeah like a super computer brain😂​@@aceman0000099
@silverseacow
@silverseacow 8 ай бұрын
@@aceman0000099 true
@locrianphantom3547
@locrianphantom3547 7 ай бұрын
How would he even write that down?
@_Gam3r
@_Gam3r 7 ай бұрын
@@locrianphantom3547 eh, knowing him he probably memorized it in his head
@aname1190
@aname1190 7 ай бұрын
Imagine Archimedes’s answer is just “bro that is impossible. There’s no cow of all 4 types” which would fulfill all 4 conditions
@olegshevchenko5869
@olegshevchenko5869 6 ай бұрын
"There's either no cows at all or more cows than there are atoms in the universe. However, since the cows are contained in the said universe, there aren't enough atoms to build them all, so therefore 0 cows is the only correct answer."
@bensoncheung2801
@bensoncheung2801 6 ай бұрын
@@olegshevchenko5869🧠
@GurpreetSingh-qt5wh
@GurpreetSingh-qt5wh 2 ай бұрын
This is genius ( I know nothing about maths)
@MrDragonorp
@MrDragonorp 9 күн бұрын
​@@olegshevchenko5869 tbh first you need to know what is an atom, how many in the universe, what even is a universe, and to prove that the number of cows is larger then that . This pr9blem also hard if not imposs8ble at the time
@SitioLumbia
@SitioLumbia 7 ай бұрын
Archimedes made " johnny bought 8⁹ bananas " problem to a whole 'nother lever.
@epigone1796
@epigone1796 7 ай бұрын
I don't know whether "lever" was a typo, or a reference to Archimedes quote "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
@SitioLumbia
@SitioLumbia 7 ай бұрын
@@epigone1796 it's a typo but let it be.
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 6 ай бұрын
134,217,728 bananas! I got it
@Bigchickenburger
@Bigchickenburger 5 ай бұрын
​@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 how to?
@Doge_rbx8
@Doge_rbx8 3 ай бұрын
​@@Bigchickenburger8x8 = 64, 64x8 = 512, 512x8 = 4094, repeat that process 9 times
@nisgreaterthanzero
@nisgreaterthanzero 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I'd never heard of this problem before. I always thought that not having enough computing power was a modern dilemma. I never knew people were posing problems in ancient Greece that would take supercomputers to solve. Imagine how Archimedes would feel knowing his puzzle survived this long, and the unimaginable tools we used to finally solve it.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you and yes indeed!
@tcoren1
@tcoren1 8 ай бұрын
It was a supercomputer in 1965, probably a lot of modern fridges have more powerful computers, to say nothing of like, the NES and stuff
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Yeah there's a commenter on here somewhere who wrote that his grandfather (who passed away last week at 92) worked on the team that made that supercomputer in 1965 and programmed the software to solve the problem. So cool that he found the video. I asked him if he wanted to share any more about his grandfather but didn't hear back.
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 7 ай бұрын
@@tcoren1 It's remarkable to me that we chased a grains of sand scale problem with silicon.
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 7 ай бұрын
@@tcoren1 The storage of that much data needs more than a refrigerator controller is equipped with. But, given the storage, which to be honest today might only be as big as a postage stamp, these itty bitty modern processors, also no bigger than a postage stamp, would be well up to the task in a reasonable time.
@supercompooper
@supercompooper 7 ай бұрын
My best friend, Gus German, solveed the Archimedes cattle problem at the university of Waterloo on an old IBM computer (with two others). RIP Gus, miss u man! He also invented RAID.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
That is amazing! There is another commenter (whose post I think you found), @ussgordoncaptain, whose grandfather recently passed and also worked on the problem.
@ric6611
@ric6611 7 ай бұрын
shadow legends?!
@CameraMan-it4qz
@CameraMan-it4qz 7 ай бұрын
He has departed crowned with glory and knowing that he has been adjudged perfect in this species of wisdom.
@QuickSmasherEXE
@QuickSmasherEXE 7 ай бұрын
​@@bensyversenFire Emblem LTC player ussgordoncaptain?
@kshitijsingh2412
@kshitijsingh2412 7 ай бұрын
​@@ric6611 bro seriously 🤣
@BlitzoITA
@BlitzoITA 8 ай бұрын
I love these kinds of math videos even though I never fully understand what's happening. This one was specifically well done. This should get more views
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@notajalapeno4442
@notajalapeno4442 8 ай бұрын
thats too many cows
@Sugar3Glider
@Sugar3Glider 8 ай бұрын
50,000,000,000 Lions gonna take the L on this one.
@dogdoggddog
@dogdoggddog 7 ай бұрын
Someone had to say it
@yb3604
@yb3604 7 ай бұрын
great point
@JerryCernava
@JerryCernava 7 ай бұрын
Serious global warming!😂
@fanman-sn7po
@fanman-sn7po 7 ай бұрын
never enough
@TARINunit9
@TARINunit9 7 ай бұрын
Now remember one of the Twelve Labors of Hercules was to clean up after all these cows
@FRANCIS4117.
@FRANCIS4117. 7 ай бұрын
ouch he must have been mad
@sonofcronos7831
@sonofcronos7831 7 ай бұрын
It was not these cows in Sicily, but other cows in Elis
@shadowseek27
@shadowseek27 6 ай бұрын
​@@sonofcronos7831Myths change and evolve. I'm down to change it to this
@redstocat5455
@redstocat5455 5 ай бұрын
I don't think he could do that
@FelixNothus
@FelixNothus 4 ай бұрын
Wasn't it horses?
@DellariSafire
@DellariSafire 8 ай бұрын
archimedes really just stayed up a few hours too late and decided to make the math version of a shitpost Edit: Dad can you come back with the milk now?
@Mr-__-Sy
@Mr-__-Sy 7 ай бұрын
basically this
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 7 ай бұрын
More like bullshit post. I'll go.
@MeltedPancakes
@MeltedPancakes 7 ай бұрын
@@oz_jonesDon’t go that was good
@epicutmmgamer5366
@epicutmmgamer5366 7 ай бұрын
@@oz_jonesnonono youre staying
@kooolainebulger8117
@kooolainebulger8117 7 ай бұрын
white boys wildn'
@adam17tt
@adam17tt 8 ай бұрын
The construction of this question alone is already incredible. The question itself is simple, but the solution is incalculable!
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 6 ай бұрын
Question ain’t simple.
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 7 ай бұрын
How many legs does a cow have? 12 Two in the front, two in the rear, two left, two right, and one on each corner.
@suhaskanuganti7967
@suhaskanuganti7967 7 ай бұрын
LMAO true, a human would have 8, 2 in the front, 2 in the back, 1 on the left, 1 on the right and 1 on each corner, LMAO
@The_Alpha_E
@The_Alpha_E 7 ай бұрын
​@@suhaskanuganti7967No corners
@Anarchodemsyak
@Anarchodemsyak 7 ай бұрын
I don't get this one. Please explain?
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 7 ай бұрын
@@Anarchodemsyak Did you expand my comment? The joke is a faulty counting method. A cow indeed has two legs in front, two in the rear, two on each corner... but you don't just add them like that, you keep track of what you counted. Edit: whoops haha ONE on each corner of course.
@Anarchodemsyak
@Anarchodemsyak 7 ай бұрын
@@gustavgnoettgen Ahhh, I get it. I did read it, I was just slow to understand, lol
@alvoi2k
@alvoi2k 8 ай бұрын
Great video. I already knew the problem and the story, but you were so good at explaining it that I still watched the full video! My compliments
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was hoping to make it entertaining enough to satisfy those who already know the story
@AdrianCruz_
@AdrianCruz_ 8 ай бұрын
Stuff like this that involves math and history always fascinates me. Unknown to them in the past whether we would be still working on and using the problems to test computers. Imagine what the future may bring us
@Markfr0mCanada
@Markfr0mCanada 7 ай бұрын
As a Canadian, I'm very happy to hear that it was my country men who achieved something noteworthy in this video, even if it means that they got trolled by a 2000 year old shitpost.
@2394098234509
@2394098234509 8 ай бұрын
I like this video a lot. Really good exposition. It's at exactly the right level of detail where you can go through it carefully if you want and check all the details, or you can ignore them and just follow along at a high level. And the animations are on point too.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's exactly what I was going for so I'm happy to hear that it worked for you.
@huzaifamansoor4068
@huzaifamansoor4068 4 ай бұрын
Imagine Archimedes watching this video. He'd he proud of your explanation and humanity for finally finding it's solution
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 4 ай бұрын
I hope so and thank you!
@MindlessMagic
@MindlessMagic 3 ай бұрын
I don't think he would understand as he speaks a different language
@JordanBeagle
@JordanBeagle 7 ай бұрын
11:40 I love that over 2,200 years ago they were still having beef with each other solving math problems
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for watching my video and leaving these comments! I’m glad you enjoyed it.
@nathanaelcheong9870
@nathanaelcheong9870 3 ай бұрын
Haha beef
@shanetwomey5273
@shanetwomey5273 8 ай бұрын
Mate that was a great video! you are definitely going to blow up. Looking forward to watching whatever you upload next!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it.
@rodri882
@rodri882 8 ай бұрын
I thought this was a viral video and then I looked at the views... This video is highly well done and definitely deserves more views, keep it up!
@Iv_john_vI
@Iv_john_vI 7 ай бұрын
A bug in the algorithm allowed an interesting video to pass to it's viewers!
@asdfhjoaijfosdfhkasjnkaa
@asdfhjoaijfosdfhkasjnkaa 8 ай бұрын
What an amazing video! Never knew about this problem, and you were so good at explaining it. It's a question of time, when your channel will get its much deserved subscribers and attention!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@sideeggunnecessary
@sideeggunnecessary 4 ай бұрын
Mary had a little lamb, whose fleece was white as snow, and every where that Mary went, that lamb was sure to be equal to 1/5 + 1/7 of the dappled lamb plus the yellow lamb.
@Dunkle0steus
@Dunkle0steus 8 ай бұрын
This video has the quality of a channel with 1 million subs. Congrats, man.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ZMacZ
@ZMacZ 7 ай бұрын
Archimedes of Syracuse is one of the greatest scientists ever, if not the greatest. Basically a walking logic machine. If he were alive today he'd still be great.
@gamerx3071
@gamerx3071 4 ай бұрын
idk if even he can understand quantum physics tho
@FelixNothus
@FelixNothus 4 ай бұрын
Greatest huh? I want to see Archimedes 1v1 Da Vinci to be sure.
@soumajitsen1395
@soumajitsen1395 8 ай бұрын
I have no idea why the algorithm recommended this to me, but I am glad it did. Liked, subscribed and shared! :D
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@BeneluxMapperr
@BeneluxMapperr 8 ай бұрын
Bro, this video is criminally underrated
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@MaGaO
@MaGaO 8 ай бұрын
I'm doing a bit liking it
@rahevar3626
@rahevar3626 7 ай бұрын
The answer could also be zero. The only potential issue is that the problem states the number of bulls in each herd is "mighty." However, since "mighty" is not a standard term and is a relative property, this should not be held against it.
@adiaphoros6842
@adiaphoros6842 28 күн бұрын
Or "mighty" just says the answer isn't trivial.
@MAATsBud
@MAATsBud 7 ай бұрын
What I'm worried about is that all of those cows and bulls that where in Sicily 0:55
@chaddrshiftjobro
@chaddrshiftjobro 7 ай бұрын
I've been interested in this problem for years, and this is a great explanation.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, I’m very happy to hear that!
@Paplu-i5t
@Paplu-i5t 7 ай бұрын
Whoever it was that wrote that poem was aware of the profoundity of the solution. Hence he wrote that whoever can get it is the one who is wise among all men. In an age when people often challenged each other on who is greater - this was one way of a declaration pointing to oneself.
@deepseapenguin
@deepseapenguin 6 ай бұрын
I have to be honest this is probably one of the best math video I've ever watched He use a funny, humour way to explain the question to you, I had a little giggle while watching the intro, it's immediately grab my attention and i feel like i must continue watch When he actually start explaining the problem part by part, the background music + the way he explain makes me feel like im in an adventure with him, together looking at an ancient problem. Slowly getting out the answer and finding the result. I'm now regret that i never study my English well to express my feelings for this video.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TeaRiker
@TeaRiker 8 ай бұрын
wtf, i thought this video had 200k views or something
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks :)
@fundowakin
@fundowakin 8 ай бұрын
True, I thought the same
@Thisone95
@Thisone95 8 ай бұрын
It certainly deserves more than the 3k it has right now.
@Guitareben
@Guitareben 8 ай бұрын
It will!
@kodirovsshik
@kodirovsshik 8 ай бұрын
Wait, it doesn't???
@Nukepositive
@Nukepositive 7 ай бұрын
Time traveler goes back 2,200 years. Achimedes: So, have you attained the wisdom of the ages? Time traveler: Oh, yeah. We solved it in less than 8 hours. We use it as a training ground to find out how to solve problems FASTER.
@MeepChangeling
@MeepChangeling 3 ай бұрын
He'd be genuinely proud.
@nosoysospechoso7951
@nosoysospechoso7951 7 ай бұрын
Not much of a math person myself, this video was really entertaining and fun. You deserve 1 like for each cow. Alas, I can only give you one. Good job.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@samueljoseph7
@samueljoseph7 8 ай бұрын
Your channel is gonna blow up! nice work mate.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@johnl9595
@johnl9595 7 күн бұрын
The sun don’t own no cattle. There, I solved it for you.
@pastanick48
@pastanick48 6 ай бұрын
I guess even math problems from 2,200 years ago still had people with an unreasonable amount of the same thing
@atismoke
@atismoke 8 ай бұрын
Commenting to help with the algorithm, hope this channel gets recomended to other people!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@swausgebouwen143
@swausgebouwen143 7 ай бұрын
0:16 spore galaxy assets?
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
The milky way animation is from Envato Elements
@prajjawaltiwari9566
@prajjawaltiwari9566 Ай бұрын
7:35 proud Indian🇮🇳 8:52 thanks man for referring Indian mathematicians because nobody generally does this.🙏🙏
@bensyversen
@bensyversen Ай бұрын
I hope to learn more about Indian mathematics and eventually make some videos on the topic. However, my process is quite slow so this could take me a while
@prajjawaltiwari9566
@prajjawaltiwari9566 Ай бұрын
@@bensyversen I am glad to hear that. Thank you so much from the depth of my heart.🙏♥️
@scoutgaming737
@scoutgaming737 8 ай бұрын
Amazing video. Really underrated channel
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 8 ай бұрын
Well get on the stick. Rate it highly, before it's too late!
@gidget330
@gidget330 8 ай бұрын
This Video is definitely about to blow up. Amazing video btw, loved the visuals❤❤
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@travisray2934
@travisray2934 7 ай бұрын
Literally 3 seconds into the problem and I'm already at, " yeah fck math, dude."
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Aww. Thanks for taking the time to give it a try anyway
@DrBFromEarth
@DrBFromEarth 3 ай бұрын
You are amazing. Incredible work!! Subscribed 😊
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@fantasyphilosophy3261
@fantasyphilosophy3261 8 ай бұрын
This video should easily have 100x the views. I hope it gets it soon
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@WinWitWon
@WinWitWon 8 ай бұрын
Amazing, and interesting the whole time, you probably hear this a lot, but im suprised at how few subs you have. Keep putting out bangers like this, and I bet you will go exponential!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@captaincole4511
@captaincole4511 8 ай бұрын
This video is ridiculously underrated, fantastic video
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 8 ай бұрын
Then get out there and rate it highly. What are you waiting for?!
@idk01123
@idk01123 7 ай бұрын
Calling it now, this channel’s gonna make it big.
@noahway13
@noahway13 8 ай бұрын
01:22 I'm tapping out.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Fair enough
@AlexandreHernandezvaldez
@AlexandreHernandezvaldez 3 ай бұрын
​​@@bensyversenyou now own photograph of motor car ,but property is theft 💯💯💯
@fundowakin
@fundowakin 8 ай бұрын
Wtf, I wasn't expecting that this video only has ≈300 views. Well done, deserved my like❤
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@sinx2247
@sinx2247 8 ай бұрын
Woah you're right! I finished the video fully expecting it to have at least 10K views
@ussgordoncaptain
@ussgordoncaptain 8 ай бұрын
10:26 Hey! my grandfather was one of the people who worked on that supercomputer he actually wrote the software to solve it. So what you call a supercomputer back then is worse than your laptop you could probably do the computation in way way less time than it took them.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Wow that is so cool! Is your grandfather still around?
@ussgordoncaptain
@ussgordoncaptain 8 ай бұрын
@@bensyversen he died last week. It happens when you're 92.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
I’m sorry for your loss. If it would be something you’d like or find meaningful, I’d love to hear a little more about your grandfather (and I could share it with the audience in tribute)
@supercompooper
@supercompooper 7 ай бұрын
​@@bensyversengoogle Archimedes cattle problem gus German. Three students did it. Zarnke and Williams too!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
@@supercompooper So cool! I wonder which one was this guy's grandfather. It looks like Gus German died in 2022.
@clarencejohncabahug5466
@clarencejohncabahug5466 7 ай бұрын
This is like a version of 10 trillion lions vs the sun. But this time, the sheer amount of cattle can actually dwarf the sun.
@hughcrawford7403
@hughcrawford7403 8 ай бұрын
There is a point you can reach in the quality of educational KZbin videos, where the size of your channel and the number of views is primarily dictated by time and luck. It's where your videos are indistinguishable in quality to the greats in your field. It feels like one is watching Numberphile, 3B1B, or Stand Up Maths. The video is so indistinguishable from that of a larger channel, they people think they've somehow missed one of the biggest KZbinrs in their area of interest. The comments are filled with "How does this not have more views?" Once you reach this point, you must simply wait until the algorithm blesses you, and hope it does so eventually. Welcome to the ranks mate, can't wait to see more of your content 🙂
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes now I just have to work on making more videos. They take me a really long time but I’m getting better at it!
@nathancondron1120
@nathancondron1120 3 ай бұрын
The fact that bored old people back in the day sent each other math poems brings me joy
@HORRIOR1
@HORRIOR1 4 ай бұрын
Forget cow level Archimedes figured a cow multiverse.
@jackhandma1011
@jackhandma1011 6 ай бұрын
Mathematicians are doing a little trolling sometimes. Fermat: I have a marvelous proof of this but this margin is too narrow to contain it. Archimedes: If thou art diligent and wise, O stranger...
@andrzejsamorzewski146
@andrzejsamorzewski146 7 ай бұрын
The problem with this is that assuming one cow takes only 0.5 square meter, on the whole isle of Sicily you could barely squeeze 51422000000 of cows. Archimedes busted.
@pinkraven4402
@pinkraven4402 3 ай бұрын
It's insane that only one such a seemingly simple additional arithmetic could blow up the answer so much
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 7 ай бұрын
Archemides was really like “oh you think you're so smart? Well prove the Riemann Hypothesis”.
@bhatkrishnakishor
@bhatkrishnakishor 7 ай бұрын
Wow! Love your story telling. Subscribed for more of these types of videos.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@clownymoosebean
@clownymoosebean 7 ай бұрын
I like how you play epic music whenever the cows are on screen. Really keeps me engaged, as someone who isn't good at math, and normally isn't interested in it.
@alangivre2474
@alangivre2474 7 ай бұрын
You will have much much more than 7 thousand subscriptors!!! I was here a pioneer in discovering the channel.
@enderknight39
@enderknight39 8 ай бұрын
This deserves way more views.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache
@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache 8 ай бұрын
So I was doing some of the steps here, but no matter how I try, for 3:11 I get 143/2800 instead of 143/1260 for the X coefficient of the black cows. I don't get how 143/1260 * 9/20 = 143/1260?? I checked with online calculators and they gave me 143/2800 too. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
That’s cool that you’re working through it yourself. I’ll try to take a look back at the details later today and report back
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Aha, I see what you're talking about. I don't have the file with me right now, but it looks like it's basically an animation mistake. Your calculation is correct. If you continue past that point, you'll find that your numbers will line up with the video. I animated those algebraic steps in Keynote and it was a VERY finicky process!
@amazinggrapes3045
@amazinggrapes3045 5 ай бұрын
Why, Archimedes? Just why??
@Ariya037
@Ariya037 4 ай бұрын
They didn't have social media back then
@jodofe4879
@jodofe4879 7 ай бұрын
Iimagining having to do this without calculator makes my head hurt more than imagining the number of cattle does. Ancient mathematicians were something else.
@Onaneehsyu9286
@Onaneehsyu9286 4 ай бұрын
And I thought my Math teachers were 'terrors' for their Math problems.
@SnackMuay
@SnackMuay 7 ай бұрын
I love your content. Please keep it up!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@robertl4522
@robertl4522 7 ай бұрын
Helios *got milk* .
@joschylux
@joschylux 24 күн бұрын
I fell asleep after counting all the sheep.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 7 ай бұрын
Eratosthenes : calculates the circumference of the earth using two sticks and their shadows and is only a few percent out. Archimedes : does the equalivant of when you sre bored and typing as many numbers as possible into a calculator. Wow Archimedes is the best mathematian of his age
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Hahaha that’s hilarious. In fairness, Archimedes did a lot of other stuff that’s far more significant than the cattle problem, but I thought this was a fun story.
@jaif7327
@jaif7327 6 ай бұрын
It does make me wonder if writing math problems in poems and generally easier ways to process makes the questions much more widely understood? As in that one superpermutations issue which was solved when someone rephrased it as watching an anime series in some specific orders.
@PGG-o6r
@PGG-o6r 7 ай бұрын
0:24 By the way, a beautiful interior painting
@conrad4852
@conrad4852 7 ай бұрын
This was quite enjoyable! Thank you!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mr.megalodonmegalodon758
@mr.megalodonmegalodon758 25 күн бұрын
answer is 4
@imBruhRun
@imBruhRun 9 күн бұрын
Agreed
@captain_wheatley
@captain_wheatley 8 ай бұрын
Keep cooking with the math-history videos. This is peak!!!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@scaevolaludens679
@scaevolaludens679 8 ай бұрын
cool video, but the use of AI pictures is pretty shite
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Fair enough. I know that not everyone likes those
@Mr_PotatoMaster
@Mr_PotatoMaster 8 ай бұрын
@@bensyversenthey kinda take away from the video :/ there are a couple of free sources of drawings and pics that can substitute the use of AI
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
I’d be curious to know if there were certain images in particular that bothered you, or if it was just a general sense. I’m still working out the best way to approach videos like this which require filling a lot of screen time with imagery of some sort
@kjh23gk
@kjh23gk 8 ай бұрын
@@bensyversen The main problem people have with AI art is that it sidesteps illustrators/artists.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
For sure. I’m sympathetic to that (former musician here), but it does also create capabilities for somebody like me who doesn’t have the budget to commission bespoke art to make things to spec. I subscribe to some stock image services as well but often can’t find what I need. I know this won’t satisfy everybody, but I do keep certain guardrails, such as never prompting for the style of a specific artist’s work.
@uncreativename9833
@uncreativename9833 8 ай бұрын
This video is about to blow up
@Arochishi
@Arochishi 7 ай бұрын
The english was harder to understand
@tennysonmathew7019
@tennysonmathew7019 7 ай бұрын
Lets assume that a cow 'C' exists and is continuous and differentiable over the period of length L=0 to L=Lc, where Lc is the length of the cow, then the derivative dC/dx that exists for any point 'p', (0 < p < Lc) is known as the '*steak*' of the Cow C at point p. -Butchers theorem
@conorpillay4315
@conorpillay4315 8 ай бұрын
I am certain this video will get a lot of traction soon, which it wholeheartedly deserves!
@lawden210
@lawden210 4 ай бұрын
1:47 Is there a specific name for this?
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t find one in my research. He shares a little more detail (but just a little) at around 3:30 of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5_Cnn2wopqEf6ssi=eW-M23cSDr5_W6Kp
@lawden210
@lawden210 4 ай бұрын
@@bensyversen I see, that is still some good info nonetheless. Thank you!
@somal5827
@somal5827 7 ай бұрын
This story probably describes one of the first written records of shitposting in history. Archimedes was so fed up with someone that he decided to construct a really difficult math problem just to shut him up for a long time.
@bendkok
@bendkok 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Both educational and very entertaining.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley 7 ай бұрын
5:00 Which the thing before was not. Is it taking into account the shape of the bulls? I'm guessing not.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Yeah there's some scholarly disagreement over whether it's meant to be "equal [in number] in depth and breadth" or "equal [in measurement] in depth and breadth." If it were the second case, it would be more like a "rectangular number" than a square number and the problem would follow a similar method but with a different solution.
@Alex-ik8pr
@Alex-ik8pr 7 ай бұрын
Love the video, well made - gonna warch some more!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@sammy_trix
@sammy_trix 7 ай бұрын
It simply shows that Archimedes can post a problem, and it took so long in the present with our technology to solve. They were such smart and wise back then. Loved your videos. We need educational and inspiring videos like this more!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@wailingalen
@wailingalen 7 ай бұрын
Very cool!!!! I'm a sucker for "educational" videos, astronomy, cosmology, languages, mathematics is a little over my head but I LOVE visual representations of mathematical concepts!!! That "elaborate geometric" triangle Pythagorean thing in the beginning with all the lines and angles was cool (1:48)
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed it! Yes, the idea that the ancient Greeks were using geometry to solve algebra problems is very cool. The diagram is based on the one from this video...this is a presentation from a college professor, so you might find it a little dense but he definitely does a great job presenting some of the methodology with more detail than I did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5_Cnn2wopqEf6ssi=y24GZyl5f0bKqqWc
@agytjax
@agytjax 7 ай бұрын
At 3:50 : How did Archimedes become "they" ?
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 7 ай бұрын
Because I hadn’t introduced Archimedes yet in that moment
@Lukewarm_Sushi
@Lukewarm_Sushi 7 ай бұрын
Because it the Archimedes father, the Archimedes son and the Archimedes spirit
@franciscohamlin7544
@franciscohamlin7544 8 ай бұрын
This video earned my subscription to your channel! Loved it!!!
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@aramisortsbottcher8201
@aramisortsbottcher8201 8 ай бұрын
I love the choice of music.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 8 ай бұрын
Excellent. I am happy to hear that 😀
@zaxtonhong3958
@zaxtonhong3958 7 ай бұрын
“If you took every atom in the universe and made it its own universe, then the number of atoms in all of those universes” This is a cool way of saying atoms in the universe squared
@youraveragerobloxkid
@youraveragerobloxkid 2 ай бұрын
makes it sound bigger than it actually is
@gabrielmelnik6796
@gabrielmelnik6796 3 ай бұрын
I mean if he purposely disseminated wrong information as a practical joke then its not a surprise a lot of his math got lost or forgotten.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 3 ай бұрын
Well, it was a different time, to say the least, and Archimedes was indeed a bit of a prankster. It is also true that he was arguably the most ahead of his time of any scientist or mathematician in history. Reviel Netz, Stanford Professor of Greek Mathematics and Astronomy (and co-author of "The Archimedes Codex", which is an excellent book that I highly recommend!) argues that "Western science is but a series of footnotes to Archimedes."
@ethribin4188
@ethribin4188 4 ай бұрын
I FEEL so much how Archimedes must have felt. I LOVE playing around with numbers just for fun ^-^ Not even sarcastically. Theres something so satisfieing in having loads of numbers, and finding relations and new numbers. Its a lot of fun.
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 4 ай бұрын
I completely agree!
@Potatoman2136
@Potatoman2136 6 ай бұрын
That map at 0:57 was one of the most interesting parts of this video
@bensyversen
@bensyversen 6 ай бұрын
It's here if you want to take a closer look: etc.usf.edu/maps/pages/10400/10489/10489.htm
@sakkoyaba4482
@sakkoyaba4482 5 ай бұрын
​@@bensyversenbruh this dude prolly didnt even understand anything else😂😂
@dwaynemontgomery1851
@dwaynemontgomery1851 7 ай бұрын
Reminds me of when a friend kept bragging about how he was smarter than everyone else so i took a book i knew had a looping ending and some chapters marked out of order, encrypted it using a pretty basic cypher, but gave it to him with all the chapters out of order and left out the page that tells you why some chapters are out of order along with the correct order
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