Did Elon Musk hosting AfD's Alice Weidel go against German electoral regulations? | DW News

[@adithya1230]

so it is not illegal for the German media to talk bad about donald trump and elon muak before usa presidential elections , but its illegal what elon musk is doing now with german politics. Wow ... what a logic.

[@arnodobler1096]

Because it´s a free advertising spot in the election campaign, and the times are the same for all parties.

[@BondJFK]

@@arnodobler1096 but DW gave free ads to others and interfere in elections of other countries

[@jclonga867]

@@arnodobler1096 Not only that, but this conversation could be considered an illicit donation to the AFD party under §25 II Nr. 3 c) PartG ("Parteiengesetz"). This article states, that political parties cannot accept donations made by a foreign (so non-German) person, that exceed 1.000€. This is aimed at ensuring that foreign influence does not affect German political processes. The penalty for doing so is, according to §31c sentence 1 PartG, a fine 3 times the amount of the donation. In this case, the conversation could be considered a non-monetary donation in the form of a service, which nonetheless has a calculable value (for example, by taking the amount of money that Musk would usually charge to be booked for an hour-long conversation). In summary, if it is found that this conversation constitutes a donation, then the AFD could be facing a fine of three times the value of the donation itself. If, for example, Musk charged $100.000 for an hour-long conversation, the AFD could be facing a $300.000 (These are exemplary numbers to illustrate my point, I have not looked into how much Musk usually charges)

[@derbaeumaed8158]

​@@arnodobler1096what about the free story telling main stream media give to their own preferred political parties? That doesn't count apparently

[@NoCluYT]

Media reports what's happening, whether you think it's biased or not, that's their job. However it's not the job of foreign billionaires to get involved in politics. Don't be a sheep for the elites. It's honestly embarrassing.

[@SmedleyDouwright]

If the X interview is a party donation, isn't the whole DW News budget also a party donation?

[@dustintacohands1107]

Yep they claim to be center but that’s absolutely garbage they’re super bias left wing but cannot face that fact.

[@VinePest]

No, there is no logical connection, but you're just trolling anyway.

[@michaellynch1132]

Is DW controlling what information is going out on comments and what gets pushed to you? If not, then no, it is not a party donation. Also, is DW an company external to the country? If not, then the chances are its not illegal. DW is a news service and covers what is happening. X is a political platform with lots of users who are not interested in politics but get/must hear said items when they get pushed to users. The problem is that Social Media is a system where the owners of the companies can control what information is pushed and can greatly influence what is viewed. Traditional news services are meant to be neutral or at least mostly neutral, yes in some countries some news services are less neutral than others. For instance Fox new in the US is totally a right wing news service, but even they draw the line once in awhile, and you will find that news casters from Fox once they leave tend to go anti-Fox.

[@norwegianzound]

DW News aren't hate mongers. That's the difference.

[@michaellynch1132]

@@VinePest Elon has shown clear behaviors in the past that he wants to influence governments across the world. He wants to encourage far right governments and try to limit center or left governments. That seems to me to be a significant difference. While it hasn't been declared illegal in the US, from what I understand, his influence of actually paying voters in the US is an illegal act. Voting for pay is considered to be illegally influencing a vote. While trying to prosecute him while Trump is in office is pointless, I hope he gets his just deserts after the fact.

[@Pandamama29]

I just watched this Musk interview in full. The lady in blue - who is she? Quite a biased view. She says the Afd like fossil fuels. That's not what was said. Musk believes in green technologies but he said has to be supplemented by fossil fuels. Weidel agreed with that statement. Please do not misrepresent. They talked about very relevant issues - it wasn't all over the place. Any awkwardness between them, which I admit was nearer the end after talking for an hour was more I think due to Weidel's level of English. Her English is extremely good, but still, for a non native speaker you will always find it a struggle to find the right word - in one place she asked someone and "renationalisation" was the word she was looking for. Musk also used a lot of specific English words which she may not have fully understood. My advice - do your own research and formulate your own opinion- I just listened to the full 1 hour. I recommend you do the same.

[@Masterrunescapeer]

AfD policy is directly no to wind energy. "Do your own research" doesn't seem to work for you.

[@bekken971]

DW does not give the AfD fair air time given the number of seats they hold in the Bundestag!

[@Masterrunescapeer]

What would fair air time be? DW basically doesn't cover parties, they only cover event is happening and will only mention a party if that specific event is relevant to them (e.g. chancellor).

[@ratneshpaliya52]

Non Europeans can't discuss the European elections but the European Union can discuss the matters of other countries like non European council in it's Parliament isn't this hypocrisy. I'm an Indian, you openly criticised Modi, called him authoritarian during elections in India. Your Parliament discusses Kashmir issue, why double standards? You were all up against Trump during US elections, and now some people from your fellow NATO country can't discuss german politics?

[@jamesbarbosa8714]

Exactly right. The hypocrisy is stunning.

[@arnodobler1096]

No, it's an election campaign ad for the AfD.

[@JeffPar50]

Expressing your opinion does not break party financing laws. However, hosting a member of a party and essentially giving them free promotion absolutely risks breaking party financing laws.

[@BondJFK]

​@@arnodobler1096 what ever, EU fund so many private NGOs in other countries during election times

[@BondJFK]

​​@@JeffPar50 expressing opnion in an elected parliament/ eu certainly affects election results in other countries

[@-Nobody-1]

DW is working overtime here to try to spin this wow, so telling.

[@publics.public]

telling what? and spinning away from what?

[@iiilllii140]

Imagine defending a multi billion dollar company by saying they want free speech

[@arnodobler1096]

@iiilllii140 In the US, donations to politicians and parties fall under free speech (SCOTUS), the more money the more "free" speech US Inc. 🇺🇸 ❌ >💵

[@-Nobody-1]

@@iiilllii140 imagine trusting your government….

[@-Nobody-1]

@publics.public the immediate implication of trying to sell the narrative that they breaking the law by having a public conversation.

[@lilybonfood394]

That conversation was a normal conversation, msm sounds more crazy most of the time

[@PlaceHolder-br9pz]

And you're of course an expert in German campaign financing laws.

[@gulliverthegullible6667]

It was a normal conversation filled with lies.

[@lilybonfood394]

@ what exactly was not true

[@mactek6033]

Having a public conversation is not against campaign financing laws. Just to clear that up for you.

[@gulliverthegullible6667]

@mactek6033 are you an expert on German campaign laws? The conversation was basically a foreigner running a long ad for the AfD filled with vile lies. I am not so sure that is legal in Germany.

[@justinleemiller]

DW is standing in opposition to a specific party. That seems unfair. Just report the facts

[@arnodobler1096]

They did.

[@NoCluYT]

@@arnodobler1096 They say "facts over feelings", but the facts always hurt their feelings.

[@SpecRaceM5]

@@arnodobler1096they must have listened to a very different X conversation then. 😂

[@Hustler281980]

Sure its ilegal, when your corrupt parties decides whats legal and what not😂

[@frederikpedersen689]

why is trump so afraid to release epstein files?

[@arnodobler1096]

🙈

[@Mark-IamNum1]

(1) 2 L's in illegal. (2) Free speech should allow views from all sides to be expressed. AfD are right-wing. Communists are on the far-left. Both should be given the chance to air their views!

[@shagaru-9]

In that reality, it would be even more illegal that Ger media constantly advertises for the current parties in charge and bashes on the Afd for no reason, they should be Neutral and not constantly tell us how to think and vote.

[@arnodobler1096]

You don't even know German media!

[@vjurs1801]

Why is it illegal? DW has a penchant to lecture and moral police other politicians in different countries!

[@serbianwarcrimes]

Party financing laws.

[@publics.public]

Party political broadcasts are limited. And it is a party political broadcast if the publication is biased toward a politic.

[@toonlyrics]

Services that run in Europe are subject to European regulations. Brazil asserted its sovereignty, so should the EU. Before Reagan, the spread of disinformation was not allowed in the US, either.

[@Wolf-zs9vc]

Wait, Musk is a politician now?

[@juanguerrero3152]

Correct me if I’m wrong on this summary Fact: It’s illegal for politic party to accept donations from outside groups Problem for liberals : they can’t connect any facts that it’s considered a donation for his time . liberal side are claiming that Elon musk did a donation by accepting contributions from far right by talking to leader on X

[@joem0088]

Talking is illegal in Germany now ?

[@nelaVanBrussel]

Is it legal that a president elect has a criminal record. One which could be much longer if the Supreme Court did't manipulate the laws in favour of T

[@arnodobler1096]

Maybe you should just listen!

[@joem0088]

@@arnodobler1096 what has your idea of should got to do what is legal ?

[@Gaspardini]

@@arnodobler1096whats your exact argument to consider this illegal?

[@arnodobler1096]

@ look at Bundeswahlgesetz

[@argowal]

This clip should be an illegal donation to the uniparty, what a joke!

[@AlexGroverUnfiltered]

I heard the whole conversation. It made sense and they both made valid points. AfD is the only way forward. I can see why the MSM wants to shut them down: they hate the truth.

[@Waage001]

You come to this conclusion even though you know neither the election manifestos of the other parties nor the election manifesto of the AfD, but only this conversation, which is full of lies?

[@Jg32234]

@@Waage001who cares what thet guy says? He isn’t even German!

[@Waage001]

@@Jg32234 I think it is dangerous that the conversation will contribute to a normalization of the party abroad, which in turn will influence opinion in Germany.

[@frederikpedersen689]

Elon supports AFD. In return AFD will destroy german car industry and leave space for Tesla

[@arnodobler1096]

50% was stupidy the rest lies

[@lukaszkupczak5707]

for DW even Mao Cetung would be far right

[@Davywatson121]

Did you mean Mao Tse Tung? ❤😂🎉

[@MVM.7]

Mao Zedong ? The former leader of China ?

[@huhujojo1968]

Karl Marx is a right winger for DW.

[@dipjyotimitra186]

@@Davywatson121 Yes. And Karl Marx

[@yl6088]

​@@Davywatson121Did you mean Mao Zedong?

[@EG.]

Stop censoring comments!

[@Maxtee77]

Like how Elon is now doing on X platform against MAGA folks surprisingly

[@kevmccarthy8311]

If you are arguing with someone of the opposite opinion, they can block you from seeing your answers to their posts

[@kevmccarthy8311]

@@EG. I have it happen regularly when I am telling Trumpinistas & Muskonauts things that are true that they don’t like 😉

[@TheGhostofCarlSchmitt]

you know they won't😂

[@mysticwatersoo]

@@EG. Well if your comments don't line up with the leftist narrative then that falls under the category of misinformation, disinformation.

[@JugglinJellyTake01]

Musk is not concerned about free speech, he is concerned about being held accountable for disinformation and lies.

[@kgizzle92]

Free speech to him and people like him just not being held accountable for prejudiced things you say…but if you say things about him he’ll delete you from Twitter!

[@gesilsampaioamarantesegund6692]

He wants free use of money to buy political advantage.

[@jamessunderland4609]

buddy, go build your "ministry of truth" then and see how that works out for you, lol

[@dustintacohands1107]

What are the lies ??? Just curious because I don’t follow Elon at all so I’m curious what lies he tells.

[@AmonTheWitch]

​@@dustintacohands1107 well for one he uses his platform to silence people he disagrees with and elevate people he agrees with, so that's definitely not a "free speech absolutist" recently he even silenced other members of the far-right for being against H1B visas

[@s.g2068]

Hey DW, why not present the whole interview?

[@saba1030]

And support those alternative facts? NO !!

[@serbianwarcrimes]

Why repost something widely available and add nothing to the conversation?

[@ericdpeerik3928]

Because that isn't fair use, that's stealing material. They highlight relevant talking points. You don't know how news works, do you? 😐

[@Flynbourne]

Bot

[@norwegianzound]

And yet another troll. This comments section is full of them.

[@TauchTobi]

Keep billionaires out of politics. Thanks

[@happymelon7129]

But they own U$ ， Europe , UK, ... unless you change to communist ...

[@randomguy7175]

George Sorus

[@Samayil_2024]

You can't. That's undemocratic...

[@smallpeople172]

​@@Samayil_2024you misunderstand. He is saying the only input into the political system should be one vote per person, with absolutely no other avenues.

[@Samayil_2024]

@smallpeople172 No, i don't think he is saying that, otherwise he would have framed it like you do. Btw, America has Lobbying Act. So it's totally legal here...

[@govindsuresh6124]

Who else is here for some spin off entertainment after listening to the original discussion?

[@sree.deutsch999]

There is nothing in their conversation except "common sense". Which is considered as extremists Idea in Germany 😂

[@BalconysHD]

Why isnt it illegal to never invite afd members to talkshows

[@arnodobler1096]

Because it´s a free advertising spot in the election campaign, and the times are the same for all parties.

[@BalconysHD]

@@arnodobler1096 time is not the same for all parties, since afd never gets a voice in mainstream media

[@arnodobler1096]

@@BalconysHDWe're talking about election campaign spots. The AfD is always trying to exclude the press!

[@scottderby5309]

The desperation of the establishment to stifle alternate voices and views makes me think that Musk is on point with his assessment that you can determine who the “bad guys” are by who is pushing for censorship. It ain’t the AfD or Musk.

[@USMC-Goforth]

There can be no such thing as "far right" in Germany unless there currently exists a "far left".

[@handle535]

There is - the BSW.

[@handle535]

An ignorant US business man decides to weigh in on German politics and is immediately followed by other ignorant Americans.

[@arnodobler1096]

@@handle535 sad and true

[@gersonduran4451]

The far left is panicking

[@publics.public]

projection much?

[@Joseph_thefather]

Far left? You mean the moderate Right?

[@brunomicael9469]

I don't think people know what "far" means anymore 😂

[@arnodobler1096]

Baader-Meinhof komplex and RAF from the 70´s 80´s, far left in Germany?

[@gesilsampaioamarantesegund6692]

The far-right has a clear myopia problem... perhaps tha's why even moderate conservative arguments means far-left for them.

[@josezerpa8177]

How can a simple interview be considered “interference”?

[@serbianwarcrimes]

By providing a free service not available to other parties, which would usually be bound to costs. Pretty simple.

[@iiilllii140]

One month before elections, wow never ever would that a interference, irony off..

[@sterlingarcher2366]

Does the not giving a voice also count as interference? Media groups blacklisting a potential candidate? Does one political party getting more coverage by favorable media count as being an advantage. People should be allowed make their own minds up.

[@knighthood91]

@@sterlingarcher2366 Which candidate is "blacklisted" and by whom?

[@chriscat512]

@@sterlingarcher2366the AfD is interfered with all the time according to your definition. They are hardly ever invited to participate in talks on main stream channels compared to other political parties. If AfD is invited they are constantly interrupted and what is said is interpreted wrong for the most part. Nobody seems to care about that interference. Pretty ironic the upset the talk Musk/Weidel is causing now…

[@izaragoza]

And remember, kids, if you don't agree with someone's opinion, just call him or her "far right."

[@happymelon7129]

🤣

[@MarincaGheorghe]

They have far right views. They own them also.

[@NickNov]

It's true, unfortunately.

[@NickNov]

​@@MarincaGheorghe common sense is far right now.

[@iiilllii140]

Remember if you can't defend yourself play the victim card

[@0-02xx5]

Germans just using adolf as a reference now 😂😂

[@happymelon7129]

which is a center reference , mean this far far meft media

[@kymkymo]

Afd using him as an inspiration

[@iiilllii140]

Only a part of Germans who Elon sides with

[@user-ez9en7vk2z]

Party donation? Its a online conversation. Ask Bruno boy if my comments are also now "party donations" from outside the EU? 😂😂😂

[@arnodobler1096]

No, it's an election campaign ad for the AfD.

[@AlexVNL]

He can be politically active just like anyone else.

[@Gaspardini]

Isnt wanting to cancel the elections in Germany because a random celebrity freely expressed support for one of the candidates, more worrying? That has a clear name.

[@bariti86]

Has anyone in the comments actually listened to the interview? I did listen to all of it and did not find any part to be either hateful or insane. just 2 people talking. Why are conventional media so afraid of uncensored content?

[@abhishekjayakar6966]

True

[@dustintacohands1107]

Left wing DW on the attack have a lot of staff with TDS

[@Joseph_thefather]

Why is musk concerned with Germany though? He doesn’t live here and he never has. He is concerned about profit and the AFD is a party for the rich.

[@fischersfritz468]

When will we see the interviews with the other parties? Sponsored by Musk?

[@bariti86]

@@fischersfritz468 you see that all the time in DW and all the other channels. Why not count all those as campaign contributions. I have not done this but it should not be so hard to find out. How much air time any party gets on tv channels and compare them to make sure they are equal.

[@Cna_asia]

Looooooooooooooool illegal to change ideas

[@soulrivernew]

Do you think america would allow russia to share their opinions in the usa to influence there election the same goes for americans in eu.

[@danaodanao4591]

That's not our problem if free speech isn't allowed in the US or Russia. It is and should always be in the EU. And btw lots of pro russian politicians in US. Never watched Douglas MacGregor or summin?

[@DUIDave-s1k]

@@soulrivernew I'm sorry, are you afraid of opinions? The funny part is if your so right you would not mind other points of views.

[@arnodobler1096]

In the USA they want to ban Tik Tok, and talk about influence from Russia and China, are we Germans not allowed to ask questions? If a US immigrant wants to influence German politics and elections? Incidentally, the parties and government he criticizes have enabled him to build a GIGA factory near Berlin with German taxpayers' money.

[@bekken971]

Merz had no problem talking bad about Trump in the USA. KARMA!

[@fatonaoladimeji9697]

I think it's just two people talking. If their ideas are bad then people would filter them out. I don't see a problem here

[@Cna_asia]

Exactly DW is crazy

[@dustintacohands1107]

Yes sir DW is just left wing bias and has a lot of staff with TDS

[@fischersfritz468]

When will Musk sponsor equivalent interviews with the other parties?

[@dustintacohands1107]

@ good question maybe he will if asked

[@arnodobler1096]

You overestimate people. Why is there so much advertising, especially in the US?

[@Kyanzes]

Trying to somehow make it look like bad? What an effort.

[@Samayil_2024]

No, it's a media platform. Every political party can campaign on it.

[@jkr9594]

The issue is that media platforms not directly owned by a party must give every party equal chance to campaign, which twitter didn't in this case.

[@slavenvulic]

Is every political party treated equally, or is the algorithm manipulated to align with the tastes of its billionaire owner? We’re all aware of how much that billionaire values "free speech"-or at least his interpretation of it. It's always interesting to see how he uses his platform to champion "free speech" in ways that conveniently suit his personal preferences. Here in Europe, we already grapple with our own issues of corruption; we certainly don’t need the imported, uniquely toxic blend of lobbyist-driven influence prevalent in the USA. It’s revolting. Similarly, we don’t need their version of "free speech" either. I much prefer spaces that encourage intelligent, moderated, and evolving discourse-ones free of the cesspool of toxicity that many U.S. social networks and public discourse have become.

[@Samayil_2024]

@slavenvulic Every political party is treated equally. If the algorithm was manipulated. Democrats would have immediately ordered an investigation into it. Forces Musk to comply (Democrats had both house and Senate for a time) and then use it to remove Musks control. The very fact this didn't happen is becoz there was nothing there. This despite the fact that there were thousands of potential wistle blowers aming the fired staff....

[@Samayil_2024]

If the algorithm was manipulated Democrat Joe would have him by now....

[@slavenvulic]

@@Samayil_2024 boosting it is manipulation. I as normal citizen or user cant call up my technician and ask to mendle with preprogrammed eco syustem of X, he can. If he boosted it, then algoritam wasnt natural

[@Magic-Battery-Unknown]

Instead of asking if it is illegal, inciting anger and distrust, counter the points they make with honesty and truth. It's perfectly fine to have a contrary opinion. Especially for complex topics. It's not OK to deny someone to have they contrary opinion

[@arnodobler1096]

50% nonsense and 50% lies, so no!

[@davideverett5214]

The problem is, we now live in a post truth society! Truth and Lies have equal value now!

[@marco21274]

Sorry, if people destroying the productive discourse to get more power, you don't treat them not like little kits but as danger.

[@TheTen20]

@@marco21274 You sir are and autocrat.

[@marco21274]

@@TheTen20 Since I have no power, I can give it to myself.

[@sumitschitoll]

How conveniently DW you guys took a small part and again put your agenda forward, , you guys are loosing credibility day by day

[@AaronfromEngland1989]

Thier grandparents must be so proud of their support of Russia....

[@arnodobler1096]

Those of the AfD and BSW? Yes, they're probably turning in their graves.

[@ldpldp-v3q]

It's interesting that Weidel who is against electric cars is supported by the main electric car manufacturer... long live US colonization!!!

[@kennyskyun]

I mean, Tesla has a factory in Berlin right.. I think there is a reason why Elon is commenting on German politics...

[@servtheking5245]

Elon is an io0dot for mixing politics and business, he will find out how bad it will end for him.

[@RSG132]

I don't recall him giving commentary on China where he also has a factory.

[@gesilsampaioamarantesegund6692]

He does not have a factory in Brazil and tryed hard to give support for Bolsonaro here. He wants politically alligned people in charge anywhere He can.

[@gesilsampaioamarantesegund6692]

By the way, the same Bolsonaro whose close allies tryed a coup with the assassination of the Supreme Court President and the Executive President Lula. Fortunately they failed. Also the same Bolsonaro that defends the military dictatorship that governed Brazil for 20 years and who tells openly his beloved hero is a known torturer. That's the kind of people Musk supports.

[@ronald3836]

AfD was and still is opposed to that factory.

[@ThaiCaveRescue]

It's a news platform. Free Speach

[@arnodobler1096]

"news" cough 🤣

[@chrimbus71]

So AFD will be the largest individual party in Germany soon. Well done Germany - keep it up. Best of luck from all downunder here in OZ

[@publics.public]

... because being anti social is endearing?

[@chrimbus71]

@publics.public not wanting your country ruined is anti social?

[@galaxymyt4834]

​@@chrimbus71 why some other's they think they can talk about Germany without permission

[@arnodobler1096]

None of the others want anything to do with them, so the almost 20% are of no use to them, as before.

[@pzimanyi]

DW Stalin TV

[@jochennel]

does this 'correspondent' even realize how biased she is? is that what a good correspondent should be?

[@anno-fw7xn]

facts are not biased? a

[@adrianenache6794]

Yes!

[@jochennel]

@adrianenache6794 lol but that makes a correspondent nothing more than any random person with an opinion on X... me not really interested in random people with opinions

[@jochennel]

@anno-fw7xn what facts are is very hard to say, but a correspondent could to just always give the possible different perspectives, just paint the spectrum not only 1 color

[@arnodobler1096]

Name me one, US or other country, news channel / journalist / newspaper / YT channel / FB or X account... that isn't biased in some way! One!

[@timespaice]

Mainstream party has every public medias promoting them and Alice cannot even have one guy supporting her. This joke.

[@BillWiltsch]

I hope DW and other mainstream media goes the way of the US media- down the drain to irrelevant. For those wishing to actually know how the conversation went, I urge you to listen, because we it bears no resemblance to the description presented here. And like the US media, the commentator throws out that there were lies told- without presenting any. Trust her, she is saying. If a country or the EU is this scared of a leading candidate having an open conversation- not controlled and edited by state media- you have much larger problems.

[@arnodobler1096]

This was not an interview but an election campaign event with a very wide reach that would cost the other German parties millions. The election campaign in countries outside the US is regulated so that all parties are treated equally, and not who has more money or richer friends, as in US Inc.

[@chriscat512]

@BillWiltsch Absolutely correct !!

[@chriscat512]

@@arnodobler1096 it was neither an interview nor an election campaign event. It was a mere talk, an exchange of views and opinions. But talking bout campaigning: You know what‘s been going on in the German main stream media world? About giving a fair chance?

[@pengunjung]

That's very funny. She talks seriously about Politics, Elon thinks about business. Greenland > Canada > and now Germany politics. It's all about Trade War, not Politics.

[@FrankBurnham]

As an American Citizen Elon can say anything he likes. Germany better listen.

[@publics.public]

No he cant.

[@FrankBurnham]

@publics.public ☺ thank you for your free speech. ♥

[@arnodobler1096]

Years ago I saw an interview with our former (74-82) chancellor Helmut Schmidt. He told how shocked he was whenever he had to talk to US politicians, how little they knew about the world and politics, the only exception being H. Kissinger (well, the warmonger and peace nobel price winner). Elon knows even less. But yes, he can say what he wants, but he's interfering in the German election campaign. In the US, they want to ban Tik Tok. This was a free election campaign spot that would cost the other German parties millions, that's the point.

[@arnodobler1096]

In the US, donations to politicians and parties are free speech says SCOTUS. The more money, the more ... Follow the money.

[@chriscat512]

@frankburnham wouldn‘t put it quite that way. He‘s got the money to share his opinion and get away with it.

[@markk9348]

Yes!. Absolutely free speech.

[@arnodobler1096]

Donations to politicians and parties are free speech in the US Inc. SCOTUS

[@muravi8167]

DW, Am loving the whining, wailing and hysteria of the DW viewers and other germans. You guys should stop painting picture of doom n gloom about even a simple conversation - REFLECTS YOUR INSECURITY.

[@dustintacohands1107]

No doubt yesterday they came out with a story claiming Trump was going to invade Greenland lol seriously they were pushing that narrative and a lot of viewers were panicking about Trump in the comments too.

[@arnodobler1096]

The most insecure but overestimating people are the US Guys, and the most uninformed.

[@cme9800]

Such journalism, open your eyes. Its not just isolated to Germany but global

[@Каргнтевгргт]

Hilfe es sind terroriesten im deutschland fiele 🙏😭😭😭

[@maxseaborn]

Guys, you're grasping at straws here

[@NickNov]

Panic ensues

[@arthurd6495]

This video is also an illegal party donation.

[@belictacastelbarco5097]

The declining of education in schools is a fact... I know few primary school teachers and they say it is impossible to teach normally because too many children do not talk German good enough

[@Dstinct]

During Primary education you should have learned that the correct term is "well enough", well being a measure of a verb, and good being the measure of a noun. You also don't talk German, you speak it.

[@belictacastelbarco5097]

@ 😂😂😂

[@buehnenreifmarketing]

@@Dstinctnot her mother tounge, why the hate?

[@happymelon7129]

They are just people with common sense, want the country back to order.

[@Maxtee77]

I fear for your state of mind if you call that a common sense dialogue.

[@wolfswinkel8906]

@@Maxtee77 Germany has been in a recession for 3 years. Maintaining the status quo is not common sense.

[@ironandzinc]

​@@Maxtee77 stop being such a fasict

[@serbianwarcrimes]

We know the """"order"""" you're talking about. We tried that back in the day, didn't work out.

[@arnodobler1096]

@@Maxtee77 true

[@Anonym-q3h]

The issue with his interview with Alice Weidel isn't his support for a candidate, but rather the possibility that he's adjusting social media algorithms to amplify certain content without transparency. Apparently KZbin doesn’t allow links in the comments, but simply google what I will write in the replies for more details:

[@Anonym-q3h]

Since Musk acquired X (formerly Twitter), studies indicate a significant rise in misinformation and hate speech on the platform. For instance, research from the Center for Countering Digital Hate reports a substantial increase in hate speech under his leadership. After this research came out, his lawyer sued CCDH for this report, which ended up with Elon Musk losing the case, since “U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer in San Francisco said it was "evident" that Musk's X Corp sued the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) because he didn't like its criticism”.

[@Anonym-q3h]

Several journalists from outlets like The New York Times, The Washington Post, and CNN had their accounts suspended after reporting on Musk's ownership of Twitter. This action drew criticism regarding free speech and press freedom. Following public backlash, Musk reinstated some of these suspended accounts, though concerns about the platform's commitment to free expression persisted.

[@Anonym-q3h]

Musk shared a deepfake video of Vice President Kamala Harris without clarifying it wasn’t real.

[@Midg-td3ty]

If its against electoral regulations then the regulations are wrong. Because how can a talk between two people be illegal aslong as they dont plan a crime.

[@arnodobler1096]

It's a free party commercial!

[@Midg-td3ty]

@arnodobler1096 No its not a commercial.

[@bogdar2019]

They will do whatever it takes to punish him for the audacity of advocating free speech. Also the commentetor in this clip is clueless, doesn't have a clue on anything.

[@amitdeshpande7529]

Get some burnol DW!

[@xjmmjbnqfstjdijoj2044]

The level of hypocrisy is astounding

[@arthurd6495]

DW should be first on the list to get funding cut under AFD

[@JMG_86]

Keep in mind this was the best picture DW had in stock to use of Dr. Wiedel in this video ...

[@voyageur8208]

no freedom of speech in Europe ?!

[@MissRed92837]

In Europe we have freedom of speech. If you spread hate, lies and misinformation you can end up with legal consequences.

[@arnodobler1096]

That is not the point. Parties have to abide by rules and laws, so party broadcasting times and campaign spots are regulated, otherwise election campaigns would get out of hand like in the USA. And the party with the most money wins.

[@habbitmonster4430]

Free speech and agreeing with your speech are two different things

[@saba1030]

Free speech doesn't include alternative facts !!

[@serbianwarcrimes]

Free speech doesn't include illegal party donations.

[@publics.public]

Party political broadcasts are limited. And it is a party political broadcast if the publication is biased toward a politic.

[@Jon.Morimoto]

​@publics.public Do you realise how ridiculous you sound? The language of politics in Germany is German. This "political broadcast" was in English, aimed at a worldwide anglophone audience. No Japanese citizen would change their vote because of an interview in English, and the same is probably true in every other non-anglophone country.

[@martytube821]

@publics.public So DW's bias doesn't count? They always on one side of every issue and its funded by all German people which is even worse!

[@ballenboy]

Musk seems reasonable, though a bit autistic. I would take a look at what he is pointing at instead of taking offense and not listening.

[@arnodobler1096]

He has no clue what he is talking about.

[@ballenboy]

@@arnodobler1096 I think he gives a lot of thought to things, mostly from an entrepreneur and innovator view. Sometimes it wont fit with politics and nation building.

[@maxsmith3580]

if the issues are not addressed the support for AFD will keep going up and that will make a AFD government inevitable.

[@user-ez9en7vk2z]

Storm in a teacup about a public conversation ....

[@60secondssmarter2]

RIP legacy media

[@alexm3847]

But of course is liegal !!! Are we crazyy

[@kingericson490]

LOL Germany doesn't have free speech i forgot

[@yeelailin9467]

😂😂😂😂 Talk is consider as illegal donation? 😂😂😂

[@TheGhostofCarlSchmitt]

yep!😂😂😂

[@TheGhostofCarlSchmitt]

and naturally a threat democracy and diversity🤭🤭🤭🤭

[@slavenvulic]

its a foriegn country official, owner of most used social network, that uses his social network to boost particual party (even tho owner itself promotes free speech, he likes from time to time use his platform to boost things he likes and guide public opinion in his favour) and all in hope to manipulate result in future election of that foreign country. I think it was clear on several occasions in video where its stated that boost owenr used to boost particular party (not his excersise of free speech by just talking) is what make this 'just talk' not really a free speech or just talk... its a paid for ad for a party in foreign land by a foreign official and billionaire who uses his assests to influrance elections in other country, or at least is trying to

[@Jon.Morimoto]

​@@slavenvulic The conversation was in English. The language of Germany is German. Please explain (in detail) how German voters will change their election choice because of a foreign language interview. Be sure to give us an estimate of how many German voters will switch. 1 million? 100,000? Please also give us some names of German citizens who get their information always in English and never in German. DW should interview those people, as it would be interesting journalism.

[@publics.public]

Party political broadcasts are limited.

[@gumby7919]

It is illegal… disagreement speech is hateful speech and should be shut down.

[@arnodobler1096]

That´s not the point

[@PlaceHolder-br9pz]

Found the Moskal bot.

[@chriscat512]

@gumby7919 say what?!!

[@LeonDieBoer]

Musk is a hero. He simply let people speak when others want to silence them. Silencing opinion is highly problematic…

[@Fredoffcourse]

DW should stick to their own MSM Journalism.. let us people make up our own opinions. Free speech is free speech.

[@arnodobler1096]

Whether it is legal or illegal is not decided by DW or any other broadcaster, whether in Germany or elsewhere, but by the courts. I'm glad we still have journalism in Germany, I don't see it in the US anymore.

[@neotropos]

DW's fear and desperation is plain for all to see...

[@Αντρέας-γ3ζ]

No, end of story

[@Creaturesburgh]

The Germans are giving her this stage, she wouldn’t have one if she was not given attention.

[@arnodobler1096]

The AfD can do just as much campaigning and advertising as the others, that is regulated. This could be a violation of that.

[@JasondeCordoba]

DW = 1984

[@fritzraake22]

Musk = 1933

[@remiplourde1867]

Everyone remember where musk is from right? Need more explanations?

[@arnodobler1096]

🤣 Most people may know the scent, but ...

[@ranjitme9957]

This is free speech

[@frankybebop2913]

Try to say that you don’t understand what you’re talking about without saying it. 😂

[@ronald3836]

@@frankybebop2913 That most media are biased nowadays is nothing new. You can't call that illegal without at the same time investigating the bias of the publicly funded German media.

[@arnodobler1096]

tell that the tik tok ceo too?

[@TABreckenbauer]

Afd ❤

[@arnodobler1096]

Dixie Klos Außen blau innen braun.

[@TABreckenbauer]

@arnodobler1096 blau, braun, rot aber immer ein Herz für Deutschland und die AfD :)

[@Guardian__Angel]

Sooner or later, he'll end up with a ban on doing business in Germany. It's as simple as that.

[@ericdpeerik3928]

If he mucks about in one country, it will likely be EU wide

[@Guardian__Angel]

@ericdpeerik3928 Exactly.

[@bogdar2019]

Which gives you an idea on how much of a dictatorship is the EU

[@GordonSeal]

@@bogdar2019 Laws apply to billionaires as well, stop being such a fangirl.

[@Guardian__Angel]

@@bogdar2019 Far from it. The EU may have many shortcomings but democracy deficit is not one of them.

[@rudycarv2197]

Who is the Dw woke Correspondent lol

[@edwinhuang803]

The fact DW News is writing this title for the videos shows a lot of problem!

[@arnodobler1096]

This question MUST be asked, even if it is very uncomfortable for Alice. AfD has often taken money from abroad without publicizing it, which is illegal. Free advertising is also a donation.

[@siamesetwincobra]

Kind of an odd question. "Is this legal?" Why? You planning to stop him?

[@jahangiralam8502]

It is true that the German government has not righty addressed issues related to immigration, energy policies, and the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. However, voting for the far-right AfD is not a viable solution. When even a foreign figure like Elon Musk appears to support your domestic interests, it is worth questioning whether you are truly on the right track. Reflect carefully on why he is advocating for the AfD and consider what his underlying interests might be.

[@Ketowski]

Like Trump is intending to do. And what Musk does on Twitter.

[@Voy2378]

DW is far left, both on political scale and IQ distribution.

[@arnodobler1096]

pretty much everything outside the USA is left-wing: "socialism!" yes Mr. McCarthy Fun Fact: the most "socialist" place in the US is their military, how ironic.

[@markbantz9699]

Two sociopaths making little sense!

[@digglerdudeuk]

And if it did, what would they do, fine him?! His vast wealth makes him completely untouchable.

[@Kararch]

Fine afd?

[@SweetAngel-s8r]

Can we stop crying? It’s pathetic how much we are talking about this. The only reason the AFD is successful in the first place is because german politics has turned into nothing but a whine fest. No one is offering a compelling narrative anymore that excites people so of course they find the AFD appealing. We lack vision and will and it makes us vulnerable to demagogues. So again. Stop whining about some conversation and offer people a reason to vote for you

[@eespn4764]

Far left dw news😂😂😂panic attack😅😅😅

[@dustintacohands1107]

Yeah the TDS really been messing them up. According to them Trump I’d gonna attack Europe and Elon Musk will be its new manager lol.

[@helpanimals-]

Far right is dangerous, stop thinking it isn't

[@nocando17]

Elon is so weird

[@kgizzle92]

He’s a narcissist who thinks he’s a genius…the far right is stroking his ego so he is now working to put them in power all over the west because he believes they’ll allow him to dictate the future!

[@mytaroboy]

yup weird and super intelligent and freaking wealthy! What are you?

[@jasperchance3382]

​@@mytaroboysuper intelligent? LOL!

[@DUIDave-s1k]

What does that mean? Such a generalization.

[@mytaroboy]

@@jasperchance3382 are you?

[@GALLERYARTCURATION]

AI / KI delusion and emotional 😭 inkompetincompetenz..🎉🎉

[@chadgrabner4136]

In 2024, Elon paid voters $ 1,000,000 to a few voters who registered to vote. He also paid $250,000,000 to Trumps campaign effort.

[@johnnyau-dw4cw]

DW is beginning to sound more and more like CNN

[@gepal7914]

Enough with the “Far right” labelling. There are right wing members of the AfD, just like there are left wing members of the SPD. Alice Weidel is not Far right, and she does not express Far right views. She expresses Conservative Libertarian views. She is less Right than DW is Left.

[@publics.public]

Weidel and Musk are both far right... ashamed of your own politic?