Did Europeans Enslave Native Americans?

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@Hallows4
@Hallows4 4 жыл бұрын
When I was volunteering in the library of the American Museum of Natural History, I had to catalogue a bunch of movies that were shown at the annual Margaret Mead Film Festival. One of them showcased an annual celebration (somewhere in the south but I don’t remember where, possibly Louisiana?) where the descendants of enslaved Africans honor the Native American tribes who sheltered their runaway ancestors and helped them escape.
@mosijahi3096
@mosijahi3096 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you could give us more information , it sounds very interesting . As you know there is a lot information behind the scenes in museums,that we don’t get to see because of space and interest.
@Hallows4
@Hallows4 4 жыл бұрын
@@mosijahi3096 I think this is it. Found it on the museum’s website: www.amnh.org/explore/margaret-mead-film-festival/archives/2012/films/bury-the-hatchet
@ocdplaylistmaker7032
@ocdplaylistmaker7032 4 жыл бұрын
This is on the bright side, but on the other side, I think either the Cherokee or Navajo enslaved black people, and before colonization enslaved other Native Americans. Pretty sure it was Cherokee though
@midlifemotox
@midlifemotox 3 жыл бұрын
Yes,,, New Orleans area.
@FriendlyCroock
@FriendlyCroock 3 жыл бұрын
When will you americans understand that europe is a continent? I know that racism in your american nation is a through the roof problem and education not so much. So I don't expect much from you.
@jso6790
@jso6790 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment about "not comparing" is very important. I, too often, hear Irish Americans talk about the trafficking of Irish indentured servants as a way to minimize the suffering and legitimate grievances of African-Americans. Whenever I can have the conversation, I explain that what happened to the Irish is a great crime against humanity in so many ways, but that crime doesn't minimize or excuse what happened to African-Americans (or Native Americans, but I do not hear the Irish comment in that context) and that a full and honest reckoning WOULD have to account for the Irish story, and thus it should make (as it once did!) natural allies of the descendants of trafficked Africans and trafficked Irish. The book "White Cargo" addresses this story. I would argue that far from comparing experiences as a means of "competitive suffering," comparing helps us to recognize the ways by which the powerful construct systems by which human bodies can be commodified and exploited, and further why it is in everyone's interest to uproot these systems, because we can always become the next victims of these systems.
@DSan-kl2yc
@DSan-kl2yc 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I don't even understand the logic. It's people who view things very racially and think Irish means every white person. Probably same reason they bring up Africans selling Africans. I don't get the logic. Even some African nations have apologized for their roll. I don't know what they're going for. Just that it's someway tied to viewing all white people as one group or something.
@pptenshi3900
@pptenshi3900 2 жыл бұрын
exactly! my father is American-Irish and I just think people should inform others, but not to minimize someone else’s experiences
@draconariusking8328
@draconariusking8328 2 жыл бұрын
All too often European Americans are conflated with colonial Whites and we really hate that.
@perfectplayingplaids
@perfectplayingplaids 2 жыл бұрын
Sheeeeeeit
@briannelson3830
@briannelson3830 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is there’s no slaves anymore the reckoning has happened we are all free to move on.
@eliscanfield3913
@eliscanfield3913 4 жыл бұрын
...I really wish "like" wasn't the option, 'cause everyone should dislike the events you're describing, but as always, you're telling an important part of history, far too important to ignore.
@susanmazzanti5643
@susanmazzanti5643 4 жыл бұрын
Liking the video sure doesn't mean liking the practices that are the content. We have to study what happened to understand how they became the practices that must be changed today. A part of my family escaped from the trail of tears and the love of a caretaker of African decent gave me an early understanding that the system was wrong when I was young. It is still wrong in the final years of my life even though some changes for the better have been made. I don't know what more I can do to help everyday life reach the point where people are treated with dignity and respect. Where every young person is given opportunity to become the best that they can be without outside forces pushing them down. Is that to much to ask.
@fjnxtgdjsjeeh6073
@fjnxtgdjsjeeh6073 4 жыл бұрын
@Balmung Barbossa its all important 😇 native americans should never go against eachother its just a trap, we all are connected no matter how different, and all tragedies (a lot) in our history need to be told
@tiarezavaleta8850
@tiarezavaleta8850 3 жыл бұрын
@Balmung Barbossa but they did not slave the son and daugthers of their enemies for generations and then gain money out of them to further opress their descendants. Europeans did it worse in the grand scheme of things.
@comradecetacean1927
@comradecetacean1927 3 жыл бұрын
@Balmung Barbossa You're talking like Ricegum. "Yeah, I promoted gambling to kids, but so did these guys". No matter who did it, doesn't mean it's okay. And Europeans did it in way larger scale, it was race driven(since there weren't much European slaves in the Americas it seems), and owned generations of slaves.
@FriendlyCroock
@FriendlyCroock 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiarezavaleta8850 When will you americans understand that europe is a continent? I know that racism in your american nation is a through the roof problem and education not so much. So I don't expect much from you.
@PRDreams
@PRDreams 4 жыл бұрын
The answer is yes. Hell, by any other name... it still hell.
@KateeAngel
@KateeAngel 4 жыл бұрын
True, serfdom in Russian Empire was also like slavery in 18th-19th centuries. No matter that is was called differently, the laws subjugated serfs more and more until they were practically slaves
@AquilaLupus9
@AquilaLupus9 4 жыл бұрын
Just like "indentured servitude" of feudal Europe.
@PRDreams
@PRDreams 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly (to both of you), and I'm sure slavery went by many other names as well.
@ms.gregoria2249
@ms.gregoria2249 4 жыл бұрын
Hell! Truth is Slavery, Colonialism and Colonization are evil things done and benefited by evildoers. Isn't that a jaw dropping, "mega genocide of indigenous Native Americans, and their population in Continents of America 500 yrs ago was around 15 millions, while European population in Europe was around 25 millions. Today, Native Americans population at 15 million, while European population, in Continents of America + Europe, at a staggering ONE BILLION". A sad truth. Why not let Native Americans have Europe, since Europeans have had both North & South America Continents; a fair deal? 'When they first arrived, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said to us: close your eyes and pray. So we closed our eyes and prayed. When we opened our eyes, we had the Bible and they had the land.' ~ Native American Chief Continent of America is NOT a new world! A website with 2 million views says it all at, blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=820652
@thykingdomcome7238
@thykingdomcome7238 4 жыл бұрын
@@ms.gregoria2249 True, Slavery, Colonialism and Colonization are all evil things done by evildoers. My jaw dropped as I learn, mega genocide of indigenous Native Americans, and their population in Continents of America 500 yrs ago was around 15 millions, while European population in Europe was around 25 millions. Today, Native Americans population is 15 million, while European population, in Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering 'ONE BILLION'! It is a sad truth. I agree, about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return to rightful owners indigenous Native American people. True, notorious global cardinal crimes Anglo West has committed, and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery & Colonialism had long been over, why is notorious Colonization still lingering on, which makes sense. By the way, blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=820652 is quite informative as well. Thanks.
@jeremyslather
@jeremyslather 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer: yes. Europeans came to all America (the continent). South America was widely exploited for gold and silver since the invasion of America.
@FriendlyCroock
@FriendlyCroock 3 жыл бұрын
When will you americans understand that europe is a continent? I know that racism in your american nation is a through the roof problem and education not so much. So I don't expect much from you. You americans literally blame 44 nations for slavery in america.
@MSanz-jc2bg
@MSanz-jc2bg 3 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyCroock America is also a continent not a country.
@johnathanflores7750
@johnathanflores7750 3 жыл бұрын
The colonists are different from the migrant Europeans
@lonelyberg1808
@lonelyberg1808 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question, why the south is seen as racist ( I am not American )
@wezul
@wezul 4 жыл бұрын
40 million people still enslaved in the world. Hot damn, we humans can really suck as a species. :(
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 4 жыл бұрын
Not included people who are enslaved and mistreated in jails.
@ElNegringoKreyolito
@ElNegringoKreyolito 4 жыл бұрын
We can improve. Bit by bit
@okagbasuna246
@okagbasuna246 4 жыл бұрын
@Your Majesty, But my majesty, should we not take it to 1 billion, kind sir?
@braxtonjones6163
@braxtonjones6163 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of Uighurs being put in concentration camps.
@davidroberts1689
@davidroberts1689 4 жыл бұрын
@@ElNegringoKreyolito How long must they remain slaves? Not bit by bit. Now is the time to release them from slavery.
@dc-k4868
@dc-k4868 4 жыл бұрын
This is really important work to help rebalance the history we were taught in English schools when I was growing up (through the 1960s & 1970s). Thanks also for the references which help to reinforce the academic underpinnings of this work.
@KateeAngel
@KateeAngel 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, may I ask something? I have recently become very interested in Welsh history and culture, and I want to know how was Wales portrayed in history lessons in England in the past, even in the recent past? And Ireland? As I know there was some anti-Celtic sentiment spread in the British Empire. Did it survive until recently? Also, how was the Anglo-Saxon invasion and settlement taught? Thanks if you find any time to answer this
@IshtarLinqu
@IshtarLinqu 4 жыл бұрын
Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics chamber degrees will guide you
@huitzilinf_art
@huitzilinf_art 9 ай бұрын
I had someone tell me that African American were treated worse than Indigenous people throughout history and today. I told them that there is nothing productive in comparing suffering and abuse of groups of people but they seemed to not want to change their mind.
@user-wi9se5ll3j
@user-wi9se5ll3j 4 ай бұрын
Same but really? Native Americans had their hands cut off for bringing corn instead of gold because corn was more important to us… but that’s all in the past!
@Mojabi_ghost
@Mojabi_ghost 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this! My ancestors’/people’s enslavement is so incredibly overlooked just because of how poorly documented it is here in the U.S. (or at least for how hard they tried to erase this from history). However we can still see many examples, and the effects Native enslavement had on our continents when looking at other countries like Latin American ones. I’ll forever be proud to be a descendant of the amazing native people🥰
@Mojabi_ghost
@Mojabi_ghost 4 жыл бұрын
@@Declan_Moriarty I mean one of the most influential countries in the world resides on our continent, and the entire basis of their constitution was influence by a political system developed by the Iroquois, so I think it’s fair to say my ancestors/people have earned the right to that title☺️
@T_Greer
@T_Greer 4 жыл бұрын
@@Declan_Moriarty No personal offense, but your formal and social education were sorely lacking
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mojabi_ghost but natives have the same rights as whites since 1512
@Mojabi_ghost
@Mojabi_ghost 4 жыл бұрын
@@giorgiofontane2655 I mean thats the bare minimum considering the in humane tragedies they’ve had to face
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Mojabi_ghost If the Native Americans were slaves, then why when Christopher Columbus conquered America, why did Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabel I of Castile signed Laws of Burgos in 1512, recognized the natives as humans and had the same rights as whites and it was a crime to have a native like a slaves. But why was it completely legal to have Afro slaves, because they were not considered human. Also the Spanish Crown used the term Natives y Naturals to describe Native Americans. But why were there three laws in 1500 that explained that it was a crime to have Native Americans or Native Americans as slaves? So the Native Americans had three Laws that protected them, Laws of Burgos 1512, Laws of India 1542, and The New Laws 1680. While it was completely legal to have Afro slaves from 1400 and much further back to 1500, in North America in the southern states, until 1960 you could still legally have Afro slaves. And in South America it continued and it was completely legal to have Afro slaves until 1980.
@dese4999
@dese4999 4 жыл бұрын
This a very good episode. Living in Humboldt County Northern California It is especially relevant. California was a Slave state for Natives. They would round them up and send them north or south away from their homeland. it was mostly children and mostly women. The Men were hunted for scalps. Check out the history of the Humboldt and specifically the Jacoby Storehouse in Arcata. It's on stolen Wiyot land and is a standing monument to the not too distant genocidal enslaving past of California.
@davidlyday7373
@davidlyday7373 4 жыл бұрын
This was a revelation to me because My family comes from Oklahoma and has Creek lineage but we are black. It never occurred to me that we were enslaved by the creek people rather than being saved by them
@kthemaster1999
@kthemaster1999 4 жыл бұрын
From my understanding of the relationship between black people and the Seminoles/ Creek here in Florida, most black people within the tribes "enslaved" by them in name only. I don't know the extent of their autonomy but there were seen as virtually equal members the tribe. The purpose of the enslavement was as a means of having the white settlers recognize that, otherwise, they would see a free black settlement and destroy it, bringing the people back to enslavement. But if they were the "property" of the Seminoles, they would respect that and leave them alone. By the time of the Seminole wars, that began to matter less and less as both groups were being targeted. I don't know it was in Oklahoma, I heard the Creek there practiced the same chattel slavery you see in the rest of the South.
@bucktooth002
@bucktooth002 4 жыл бұрын
My friend who is Seminole is also African on both maternal & paternal sides.
@IshtarLinqu
@IshtarLinqu 4 жыл бұрын
Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics chamber degrees will guide you
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
@@bucktooth002 if you are African then not native anymore
@tiarezavaleta8850
@tiarezavaleta8850 3 жыл бұрын
@@giorgiofontane2655 You could be both, must be a surprise to you. It is called being mixed.
@tecpaocelotl
@tecpaocelotl 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and some of my native ancestry is descendents of those slaves. Need to talk about haciendas and how the mexican revolution removed "servitude".
@heyitsfernanda8754
@heyitsfernanda8754 4 жыл бұрын
Fr
@elpajaro5056
@elpajaro5056 3 жыл бұрын
OK chicano
@tiarezavaleta8850
@tiarezavaleta8850 3 жыл бұрын
Deberia enseñarse más en las escuelas.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 2 жыл бұрын
My Maternal Nanna used to have a native maid when she was in Mexico.
@kevinschaude6592
@kevinschaude6592 4 жыл бұрын
Shoutout for the book mentioned. My wife bought it for me as a Xmas present. I can't wait to get started.
@3m287
@3m287 4 жыл бұрын
Great content, have you guys thought about doing a video on East African/Middle Eastern slave trades? This part of history is largely ignored for some reason and would love to see a video on that topic in this style.
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset 3 жыл бұрын
The Arabic slave trade . Lots of good documentaries on it . Search for "Arabic slave trade "
@imyourfriend1680
@imyourfriend1680 3 жыл бұрын
White people also was slave in barbary slave trade and arabs enslaved White and blacks in arab slave trade and castrated and killed their slaves and called abeed their black slaves but ok arabs are politically correct
@Supreme36074
@Supreme36074 2 жыл бұрын
@Bingo Duff why are you here ?
@notsureiL
@notsureiL 4 жыл бұрын
Best educational channel out there :) I hope you never leave us.
@isabelab6851
@isabelab6851 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Lannister unfortunately today the announced that they are stopping this channel. So sad
@tiarezavaleta8850
@tiarezavaleta8850 3 жыл бұрын
@@isabelab6851 😦
@LodiJP
@LodiJP 4 жыл бұрын
There's something about the way this girl speaks that makes me think she'd do great on TV! Great video
@santiagomakoszay5090
@santiagomakoszay5090 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much for sharing this so needed content! As a Mexican here, I feel the past and present systems of enslavement of indigenous peoples is not as discussed and understood consciously as it should :( thank you for allowing me to understand the context better.
@Duquedecastro
@Duquedecastro Жыл бұрын
That’s because the Spanish kings and queens did **not** give the ok to enslave natives. It was illegal and Queen Isabella made sure of it, look up the New Laws and the Laws of Burgos.
@NikkiBdraws
@NikkiBdraws 4 жыл бұрын
It took me nearly the entire video before I realized she was wearing a Sailor Moon shirt. I was so focused on what she was saying, which is a good thing, I guess!
@inviernum4201
@inviernum4201 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a powerful and heart-breaking video. You delivered this terrible history with grace.
@yesid17
@yesid17 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video!!! i came across resendez's book a while back and it makes me so sad as an indigenous person it makes me so sad that i didn't even know my own history im so glad yall covered it and im hopefully for future generations with such easy access to the truth it will be hard for the various empires of the western hemisphere to continue to pretend we all centuries ago
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
you gotta be joking
@yesid17
@yesid17 4 жыл бұрын
@@giorgiofontane2655 about? lol
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
@@yesid17 there wasn't such a thing as "the other slavery"
@yesid17
@yesid17 4 жыл бұрын
@@giorgiofontane2655 source?
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
@@yesid17 history
@Just_One_Tree
@Just_One_Tree 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching us about this!
@OurRosewoodTV
@OurRosewoodTV 4 жыл бұрын
I like your summary statements very much. It affirms why I became a historian while reminding me that not everyone believes that working for equality for all is the goal.
@yonathanmengistu731
@yonathanmengistu731 3 жыл бұрын
First of all love your work. 👍🏾 Not sure if it was said but Seminoles didn’t enslave Africans. They broke away from the Creek because of the slavery question. They actually fought several wars vs the U.S. side by side with liberated Africans. Florida was the southern route of the Underground Railroad which included Seminole lands and ultimately ended in the Bahamas. Come to think of it, THAT would make a nice video.
@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod
@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod 2 жыл бұрын
excatly and its litterly the white majority that tries to pit natives and black americans agaisnt eatchother by fabricating the idea that natives had "black slaves" when in reality natives and inslaved liberated africans banded together to fight there opressers
@Bigburse385
@Bigburse385 4 жыл бұрын
Great segment. Thank you.
@grcarie
@grcarie 3 жыл бұрын
Have we forgotten the slavery perpetrated upon Africans and Europeans by the Arab empires before western colonialism? Chattel slavery did not start in 1619.
@rafangille
@rafangille 2 жыл бұрын
yes but you’re most likely a western person living in a western country, we live with the legacy of western colonialism
@YvonneJackson007
@YvonneJackson007 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this series; I've been enlightened on so many aspects and factual content. OMG this is a God send for me and my family with whom I will share these segments with. The host is amazing and awesome and thank you PBS for opening channels to information that would never be known if it wasn't for your vastness of information shared.
@mykl-anarche2201
@mykl-anarche2201 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the sentiment at the end ♡ it explains so well why we need historians.
@deeelle697
@deeelle697 3 жыл бұрын
Historians of color*
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 3 жыл бұрын
What does skin color have to do with being a good historian or not? Oh yeah, nothing.
@deeelle697
@deeelle697 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 literally everything…this is giving son of a Karen energy.
@Vixxen_Viktoria
@Vixxen_Viktoria 4 жыл бұрын
What a segment! Thank you so much for all your hard work.
@whathell6t
@whathell6t 4 жыл бұрын
Sailor Moon vs Knight of the Zodiac-Saint Seiya
@Peecamarke
@Peecamarke 4 жыл бұрын
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@whathell6t
@whathell6t 4 жыл бұрын
@@Peecamarke Look at the shirt that she wearing throughout her video.
@Peecamarke
@Peecamarke 4 жыл бұрын
@@whathell6t holy crap 😳 can't believe I didn't notice. Good lookin out 👍🏿
@Xochimique
@Xochimique 2 жыл бұрын
There are people who still deny the enslavement of native americans in Mexico, their argument being that most mexicans are of spanish and native american mixed descent. Yet, native americans remain the most marginalized group in the country by far. And the caste system that was established in the colonial period; supposedly an old, overthrown system, remains relevant today; the whiter you are, the higher your social status is.
@Duquedecastro
@Duquedecastro Жыл бұрын
Actually, the real argument and proof they did not enslave natives in Mexico is the historical presence of the Laws of Burgos and the New Laws. Queen Isabella and her grandson Charles V passed these laws to make clear that Natives could not be enslaved.
@erickleonardo46
@erickleonardo46 6 ай бұрын
Nadie niega que haya pasado los primeros años, como la perra de cristobal colón en la española, pero no erradicaron a las antiguas culturas, vamos hasta hay un titulo en españa de conde de moctezuma, o los codices relatando con detalle sus tradiciones e historia, sin mencionar que muchos de los idiomas pre colombinos tuvieron tratados de gramatica mas antes que el inglés, solo mira la tu alrededor, la comida, las casas, la ropa y si hay gente que es marginalizada es por el propio gobierno mexicano y no el español, porque quien diria que para inicios del siglo XVII se hablara mas nahuatl que español y para cuando josé vasconcelos inicio el plan de alfabetización el idioma cayo como las cryptos, o el infame "ponerle pantalones a los indios" y "afrancesar" el pais de Porfirio Díaz, la guerra de castas, la sesecion yucateca o las masacres yaquis del norte, la ejidización o como se escriba de las tierras enfavor de la clase pudiente mexicana que oh sorpresa comenzo tras la independencia. Tirarle la culpa de nuestro presente a susesos de mas de 4 siglos es ridiculo, no le debemos nada a españa ni las gracias, pero ellos tampoco nos deben disculpas y ni madres, o si no porque filipinas habla tagalo en su mayoría y es el unico pais de asía católico
@angiecam91
@angiecam91 4 жыл бұрын
I throughly enjoyed this segment but I also want to highlight how dope her sailor moon shirt is!
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 3 жыл бұрын
You know who’s not dope for even believing the slavery of people of colour isn’t half as bad as shows he hates that are actually awesome?! www.dailymotion.com/video/x7omlgq
@timk1890
@timk1890 3 жыл бұрын
"Enslavement by Europeans became about what you looked like rather than the merely unlucky circumstances by which natives enslaved people." (psst...natives only enslaved peoples who looked and acted culturally different than them too). These apologetics for native slavery are pretty effing weak.
@alexchavez3244
@alexchavez3244 3 жыл бұрын
Native Americans slavery was different you can get out and be part of the tribe or the civilization in Europeans slavery you couldn’t be free tho.
@victorl3969
@victorl3969 2 жыл бұрын
Native slavery was largely more so an induction into the tribe. European slavey was property rights and chattle.
@niechellejeffery7246
@niechellejeffery7246 3 жыл бұрын
I descend from the Mayflower passenger Samual Fuller who is known to have a Native American slave named Joel. This history is often forgotten.
@malcire
@malcire Жыл бұрын
Didn’t one Spanish king complain about enslavement of natives? Also the one dude who decided against Native enslavement and then also against enslavement of Africans?
@Duquedecastro
@Duquedecastro Жыл бұрын
The first Spanish monarchs to rule over the Americas all passed laws against slavery of the Indigenous, you are correct. Also, they intermarried with many Indigenous nobles, that is also why they treated the Moctezumas highly in Europe, and their descendants are all over the European nobility and royalty.
@peachtea7389
@peachtea7389 4 жыл бұрын
I just wish people would understand that there is a difference between oppressed in the past and currently being oppressed every american regardless of skin color should be forced to live on a reservation for a year as a young adult to know what it truly means to be a second class citizen
@hasaansobaan5374
@hasaansobaan5374 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about this!! Thank you so much for making this video!!
@Sippin_Coffee
@Sippin_Coffee 3 жыл бұрын
This video is progress, a lot of “Latino” and “Hispanics” all come with some sort of horror story the farther back they can trace their native lineage. I can’t trace back my family tw much farther then my great grandfather, and that’s only cause it’s confirmed that he was a Zapatista close to a hundred years ago, and judging from what went on a hundred years ago, I don’t care you know the details too much.
@gcsusetyo
@gcsusetyo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this topic. So much context and shades of grey. Slavery is atrocious no matter who is perpretating it. I hope we all become more sensitive to what is slavery today and work to abolish it. I love your Sailor Moon tee, btw!
@neishabarrett2209
@neishabarrett2209 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to watch a slower talking longer video. Love the details.
@yesid17
@yesid17 2 жыл бұрын
watching this video again a year later and it's still the masterpiece it was back then-thank you again for this video!
@mikematerne4579
@mikematerne4579 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos!
@ro-9
@ro-9 2 жыл бұрын
The Taino were peaceful people who did not enslave no one. Yet were the first to be enslaved. In the 'new world'
@s.m9206
@s.m9206 2 жыл бұрын
Preach. The worst things happen to the best people.
@dpricketti
@dpricketti 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Mississippi (now living in Italy) and knew about some slave owning choctaws although wonder how widespread it was. There was a black reconstruction senator from Mississippi who owned a plantation. How were his workers treated or did economic interests override morality as they often do
@mikefabuloushorse9044
@mikefabuloushorse9044 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Very informative. I love this channel!
@g.gg.g4539
@g.gg.g4539 4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys have any good sources on pre-colonial Liberian history? Or West African philosophy.
@2122Hellfire
@2122Hellfire 4 жыл бұрын
Would be a good topic, finding out about Liberian history is just as weird as learning that the five civilized tribes engaged in chattel slavery.
@g.gg.g4539
@g.gg.g4539 4 жыл бұрын
@@2122Hellfire which tribes?
@2122Hellfire
@2122Hellfire 4 жыл бұрын
@@g.gg.g4539 it’s in the video, but Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek, Chickasaw and Seminole.
@g.gg.g4539
@g.gg.g4539 4 жыл бұрын
that's an unfortunate time in history. Where are you from though man
@2122Hellfire
@2122Hellfire 4 жыл бұрын
@@g.gg.g4539 United states
@OTW18
@OTW18 3 жыл бұрын
We enslaved Europeans along with other immigrant settlers that came over. Whites were “enslaved” on colonies and raids from the indigenous peoples. “Africans” were the last because servitude/“enslavement” was already be practiced in America for centuries... Take into consideration, ‘Indentured Servitude.’
@alexchavez3244
@alexchavez3244 3 жыл бұрын
Jews from the Spanish during the inquisition.
@Grt_Sge
@Grt_Sge 3 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video: Yes because the Encomienda System existed before the slave trade really kicked in. The original plan was to use Native Labor until there wasn’t enough Natives due to plagues. Thus encouraging the African Slave trade. After watching: I forgot about the effect that De Las Casas had during his time.
@TL-pk2gh
@TL-pk2gh 4 жыл бұрын
I really love learning from your videos!!! 👏👏👏
@tineamber
@tineamber 3 жыл бұрын
love the Sailor Moon t-shirt! Also, I love this channel!
@TheSuzberry
@TheSuzberry 4 жыл бұрын
Slavery in the US is still legal. Prisons and jails can force prisoners into involuntary, unpaid work.
@alexchavez3244
@alexchavez3244 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t you get money on you’re books tho I heard maybe check it again.
@etymologist1976
@etymologist1976 3 жыл бұрын
Tomahawk is the language of 🇰🇷Korea. It was an ax used by the Indians, and was erroneously recorded at the time. In fact, the word tomahawk is TO MAK (cut = cut), which means to cut wood in Korean. This is mislabeled as a tomahawk. Dictionary records that the origin of the tomahawk is derived from the North American Indian Algonquin word otomahuk. In fact, "otomahuk" is 🇰🇷 in Korean, meaning a log house made of wood. This is what Koreans call “Oh Domak”. I discovered and restored the etymology of the first human beings, and the etymology of the Korean language and English. We also restored the history of 🇰🇷Korea.
@gnostic268
@gnostic268 5 ай бұрын
This isn't true. That's not how language and linguistics work. LoL
@etymologist1976
@etymologist1976 5 ай бұрын
@@gnostic268 This is true. English is the EDU letter of Korea. Westerners have Korean paternal ancestors. You inherited the traits from your maternal line. Your history is recorded in your English, Korean and Sanskrit letters and languages.
@justicia_azul
@justicia_azul 4 ай бұрын
I don't know... Just from a simple search, it seems that those words either come from Algonquian or Ojibwe words that had been corrupted later on in the English language. Korea had little to do with the Americas at the time, and the haplogroups that modern Koreans have are largely absent from Indigenous American or European populations in the Americas. Just because certain words seem similar in pronounciation does not mean they have one single origin.
@fod1855
@fod1855 2 жыл бұрын
The fact is that the British were very much pro leaving Native Americans alone, they encouraged a policy of “nativism”. Yet still during the war of independence many tribes sides with the Americans, they then proceeded to join the confederacy. The last confederate general to surrender was a Native American. Native Americans were not kept as slaves, other than by they’re own people of course. They also kept more black people as slaves than the average white person at the time.
@naitthegr8131
@naitthegr8131 2 жыл бұрын
"Native Americans were not kept as slaves, other than by they’re own people of course." that's definitely not true. If we're just talking about the 13 colonies that became the United States, there were definitely Native American slaves although few if any of them were kept in the 13 colonies with most or all of them being sent to the Caribbean for British colonies there (given that they could more easily escape if kept in the North American colonies)
@naitthegr8131
@naitthegr8131 2 жыл бұрын
", other than by they’re own people of course." keep in mind that back then, they would not have considered people from an enemy tribe as "they're own people"
@naitthegr8131
@naitthegr8131 2 жыл бұрын
There was even a slave trade in the North American colonies that was similar to the Atlantic slave trade in the white traders would take advantage of rivalries between enemy tribes by pushing guns onto them. For years now, I've been raising this fact to racist whites and even other groups when they throw out the "Africans sold their own people" or "Africans sold other Africans" nonsense. Out of all this time, not a single one of them has had any answer. It's like this history completely shuts them up. " *The increased rise of the gun-slave trade forced the other tribes to participate or their refusal to engage in enslaving meant they would become targets of slavers* " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
@naitthegr8131
@naitthegr8131 2 жыл бұрын
slightly mentioned at 9:20 of the video
@fod1855
@fod1855 2 жыл бұрын
@@naitthegr8131 I don’t doubt they’re were some Native American slaves but certainly very few. Certainly not the “norm”. But again they only would have been given over by their own chiefs or by another after being captured, just like in Africa. But I say by their “own people” in the context of modern thinking.
@bluehairkim1
@bluehairkim1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your dedicated work
@peterbosch8112
@peterbosch8112 4 жыл бұрын
I came here from 2 cents, and I'm glad I did. Great information, really in depth. This video should have so much more views and you so many more subscribers! Thank you.
@carbono12videos
@carbono12videos 4 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing class. Thank tou!
@saresartus
@saresartus 4 жыл бұрын
Really informative, thanks for making this.
@franciscomunoz2222
@franciscomunoz2222 4 ай бұрын
The Catholic Queen Issbella of Spain decreed than that the indigenous should not be slaves but subjects, and that the Spanish and the natives should intermarry. His grandson who inherited the throne put a stop to the conquest, gathered clerics and philosophers, and elaborated several laws to protect them. The Dominican, Jesuit, and Franciscan orders were the eyes and ears of the crown.
@heraldomedrano851
@heraldomedrano851 3 ай бұрын
Proud to be mezstio.
@franciscomunoz2222
@franciscomunoz2222 3 ай бұрын
@@heraldomedrano851 Same here, carnal.
@marekvrbka
@marekvrbka 4 жыл бұрын
At 8:48, you refer to indentured servants as slaves, that sugarcoats slavery a little as indentured servants are not slaves, they effectively sold some years of labor in exchange for passage across the Atlantic (something that was very expensive)
@10INCHCRUSHER
@10INCHCRUSHER 4 жыл бұрын
If people studied Indentured Servitude, then the real history would come out.
@Imperiused
@Imperiused 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic!
@82566
@82566 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this eye opening informative video ,history is amazing I love learning about it ❤. Great video
@gregorythomassr5485
@gregorythomassr5485 2 жыл бұрын
I Loved how you broke all this down. Reminds me of D. Callaway ijhtmyt
@denisemcdougal6445
@denisemcdougal6445 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining
@geoffmd9925
@geoffmd9925 3 жыл бұрын
Why are the comments turned off on some videos??
@theMad155
@theMad155 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this important information!
@nailahdawkins
@nailahdawkins Ай бұрын
@01:25: OMG, I _have_ that book 📖! I bought it in 2022, it's must-read and it's a thick one too 💯
@walterstaton6060
@walterstaton6060 2 жыл бұрын
Let's remember that the Spanish only had the Philippines colonized at this time and this is where their slaves of color came from not Africa..the Portuguese had an African colony.. the English dominated white slavery in America and had the triangular slave trade and entered the trans slave trade much later.. the American Indians were people color as the Africans were which is why the slave trade was started with them
@justinwilson9848
@justinwilson9848 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos so informative
@TRUmiklo
@TRUmiklo 11 ай бұрын
The UN was created to help the US and extend its control back to Europe. JEDG is an example of that.
@sterichardsson
@sterichardsson 4 жыл бұрын
4:33 When you said "... and eventually, England, would come to dominate the trafficking of Africans...", it has somewhat of an irony to it, as, at that time (the Tudor dynasty), slavery was not practised at all. In 1452, Pope Nicholas v issued a papal bull "Dum Diversas" which granted the Portuguese to enslave any "non-Christian" peoples, which he then further qualified in 1455, justifying it by stating that non-Christian peoples had 'primitive living practises" which were "a violation of natural law". Due to a mixture of the rights-orientated attitude the English had acquired back in 1215 with the Magna Carta, and hot on the heels of the schism of the Church of England from the Roman Catholic Church in 1534 (just 18 years before the first papal bull), historian Onyeka (author of "Blackamoores: africans in Tudor England") believes the newly-religiouly-independent English of the time may have wanted to distinguish themselves from the Catholic Church and from its biggest sponsors, Spain and Portugal, by allowing Africans to be free in England. While between 1502 and 1619, Spain and Portugal transported over 370,000 enslaved Africans across the Atlantic, for around half of that period, until England joined them in 1562, England came, not necessarily a haven for escaped or freed Ibero-Africans, but a place where they were more equal to the average Englishman than their Spanish equivalents. A particular favourite Afro-Tudor of mine lived in my local area just over 500 years ago... In 1501, at the age of 15, Catherine of Aragon travelled from A Coruña to England and married Arthur, Prince of Wales (the older brother of Prince Henry. With her, she brought a West African man, her personal slave, named by the Spanish "Juan Blanco" (a name most likely given to him in bad taste by the royal court of Aragon, Spain). The man immediately became free upon setting foot in England. 5 months after the marriage, Prince Arthur died and Prince Henry went on to become Henry VIII, taking his deceased brother's wife as the first of his, eventually, six wives. Juan Blanco became "John Blanke, and became a professional trumpeter playing for the royal court of England and receiving a very generous salary as well as a state pension. In 1512, he married "Mary", most likely a white English woman, in St Nicholas Church, just 3-4 minutes walk from where I live, (to be married there, a Catholic church - before the schism - he must have been baptised), and as a wedding gift he was given an array of gifts from the royal closet by none other than King Henry VIII. He is even depicted in a tapestry known as the "Great Tournament Roll of Westminster" which has survived in official UK archives. The relatively civil treatment of Africans in England ended in 1562 when John Hawkins sailed (from Deptford, my local area) to Guinea in the Hispaniola and stole gold from the Portuguese... and 300 African men, going on to sell them in the "New World" and kicking off England's, (and in less than 150 years, Britain;s) part in the Triangular Transatlantic Slave Trade, (also known by some academics as "Maafa" - a word used to impress the gravity of the abuse, while wisely avoiding calling it 'the African Holocaust").
@godfreystoby9800
@godfreystoby9800 3 жыл бұрын
The desire to enslave the natives was not a very good idea. Those people knew the land, and it was impossible to find them when they disappeared in the bush. So their best option was to get people who had no land, but were nomadic. Therefore the blacks, some of whom were already slaves in Europe at that time.
@s.m9206
@s.m9206 2 жыл бұрын
Who said enslavers are smart? If they were they wouldn't have enslaved people in the first place
@godfreystoby9800
@godfreystoby9800 2 жыл бұрын
@@s.m9206, do you think that CAIN thought he was smart? If he had done well, it would have been good for him and his descendants.
@AdamGreen229
@AdamGreen229 4 жыл бұрын
I liked your presentation However I really wished you guys used better imagery of indigenous people that’ were enslaved east of the Mississippi and in the Caribbean Carib Indians Arawaks etc Also you left out a major factor in history being the term “Negro” and it’s use by the Portuguese and Spanish. Not only did it mean black,, it was also used to describe black indigenous people and/or Slaves in the America’s, Caribbean, South America and Africa. Because they all looked so much Alike.
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha no way, natives don't have nappy hair
@AdamGreen229
@AdamGreen229 4 жыл бұрын
@@giorgiofontane2655 lol nice try but you should do your research indigenous ppl of the America’s had a wide range of textures a lot of them wore the hair in dread locks, you should do your research and be Quiet 🤫 #aboriginalniiji vs the 5$ Indian #round1
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamGreen229 nappy hair brack think they are natives lmao
@AdamGreen229
@AdamGreen229 4 жыл бұрын
@@giorgiofontane2655 no fool lol Not native “indigenous Niiji” lmbo we’ve been celebrating our culture for decades lol what do you think Mardi Gras is??? Your a Chino a descendent from Asia brought by the Spanish to Mexico. You lighter ancestors that escaped posed themselves “native Indians” to keep there freedom In Mexico. You should read about it lol
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamGreen229 hahahahahaha the Bro tribes, they used to rap before Columbus and shiet
@easyclearchinese6519
@easyclearchinese6519 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this! Is there a transcript for this video? Is there similar one for 5th grade students? Thank you.
@mikematerne4579
@mikematerne4579 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many indigenous Africans have Native American DNA, and how this may may effect the genetic markers that both groups now share? My great grandmother was full blooded Cherokee, but two of my brothers have done ancestral DNA test, that claim they have no Native American ancestry.
@PRDreams
@PRDreams 4 жыл бұрын
Ok. DNA doesn't pass down complete family history. You could test and be 2% native, even if your brothers aren't. That doesn't mean you aren't related or that there was an affair along the way, it's just that the further we go in time, the more the DNA rearranges. So if you have a Ghanian, Senegal, Irish, French, Native American, and Greek lines in your family, you might get Ghanian, Greek, Native American another brother Greek, English, Ghanian and another Senegal, French and Greek. So that is the way that works. With Native American DNA is harder because most Native Americans (First Nations) are against DNA testing and discourage it among tribes, so we Ancestry.com and 23 and Me, etc. do not have much native DNA to compare except Native American DNA from Mexico, Central and South America and the Caribbean. If your ancestry is Cherokee and they are too far removed from tribes outside the USA and Canada it will not show. Most of the Native American they show is from former Mexican Tribes like the Pueblo tribes because genetically they are very similar to the Mexican Tribes of today.
@KateeAngel
@KateeAngel 4 жыл бұрын
@@PRDreams some DNA markers labeled as "Native American" are also actually more ancient than migration to the Americas, and are present in many Siberian ethnic groups. But Siberian population genetics is very badly studied (especially considering current paranoia of our government about usage of DNA material from Russia by foreign companies), so commercial companies know those genetic markers mostly from indigenous population of the Americas
@mikematerne4579
@mikematerne4579 4 жыл бұрын
Yal see how they tried to side step my question and statement, and rearrange the answer to fit a different narrative. I refuse to submit to an ancestry test, and I agree with the other First Nation peoples who wouldn't as well. The fact that Natives were exported says enough in it's own context for any logical thinker to come to a logical conclusion.
@mikematerne4579
@mikematerne4579 4 жыл бұрын
Look at it like this, if many people with European ancestry still have 2-4% neanderthal dna, how can you believe they cant find Native dna from 3 generations back.
@PRDreams
@PRDreams 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikematerne4579 I was obviously very bad at explaining it. I myself have reservations about DNA testing. The only reason I considered it was to know where my mom came from (she died when I was a baby) but I've made peace with the fact that I'll never know because of the issues I pointed in my prior post. The picture of your brothers' DNA is not complete. It cannot be until enough Cherokee DNA is in the database, and that will not happen any time soon because First Nations Natives frown upon the practice. They also do not allow exhumation of ancestors for the purpose of any research. Thus we have little to no DNA on file to compare your brothers' markings against. DNA tests are a waste of money. I don't recommend them, but not because of government conspiracy theories. They are just garbage.
@romecottrell4558
@romecottrell4558 2 жыл бұрын
This is a historical video and I learned many things this morning.
@Papi1960R
@Papi1960R 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but it quickly glosses over what anthropologists across the world are currently starting to teach. Simply put that in 1491, before European expansion, 35-40% of Meso-Americans were slaves.
@mellowrage4892
@mellowrage4892 2 жыл бұрын
Can you cover, in one of your videos, how Walter Pleckers 'Racial Purity Act' reclassified Virginia natives, or anyone for that matter, as colored if they had 1/8 African ancestry. Colored later reclassified as black, negro, then African American. Thank you for being so diligent. I thoroughly enjoyed your presentations. Peace young scholar.
@EternalEmperorofZakuul
@EternalEmperorofZakuul Жыл бұрын
Especially when the very same white descendants of Pocahontas, who never considered those primitive descendants of slaves as brethren, were given the exception and considered white even if they had 1% Amerindian genetics that can all go back to the very early days of colonialism
@troybailey9666
@troybailey9666 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this...but you do NOT need background music going through the entire video! Your voice alone is powerful enough - the BG music distracts and cheapens the presentation! What the H does hip-hop music have to do with the historical enslavement of Indian peoples??? Nothing. You open with music and then have your voice alone to give the rest of the presentation which gives it force, power and seriousness!
@HalifaxPeacock
@HalifaxPeacock 8 ай бұрын
Europe is a continent with numerous countries, within which there are numerous classifications of citizens (class, culture, race, religion, etc). Which European citizenry were slavers? Then expand that. What global citizenry were and continue to this day to be slavers? We need to get down to that level of detail, instead of referring to an entire continent of people. The slave trade, like any other merchant class trade. thrives on global networking. Every continent had a hand in it. They still do.
@PaulaCollins-Cook-d3t
@PaulaCollins-Cook-d3t 4 ай бұрын
We found a book that shows the man that have never been enslaved now that was a treasure..
@L_Train
@L_Train 2 жыл бұрын
And Some Native American tribes had black people as slaves. I guess that puts them at the very bottom of the food chain.
@r.ladaria135
@r.ladaria135 4 жыл бұрын
The encomienda looks like servitude in feudal Europe. And the feudal servitude looked like slavery.
@r.ladaria135
@r.ladaria135 4 жыл бұрын
@sneksnekitsasnek well the servitude ended in all today's Spain in late XV century. ( Catalonia was the last to free the serves).
@sophiejones7727
@sophiejones7727 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking about this, it’s often overlooked. I do have one nitpick though. You started this video talking about the modern definition of slavery. However, that is different from the definition of slavery which historians typically use when speaking about the past. The modern definition of slavery covers nearly everyone in the past! Most people didn’t have a choice in their marriage, for example. Debt bondage and indenturement were also common. However it’s generally considered in poor taste by historians to call those things “slavery”. This is because people in those situations retained some important rights and freedoms. A hallmark of “slavery” in it’s historical definiton was the absence of legal rights and freedoms. This applies to Native Americans, but not say white indentured servants. Historically speaking it is useless to distinguish between the free people and the unfree people. Very few people were free by modern definitions of that word. It’s useful instead to distinguish between different degrees of freedom: a yeoman was more free than a peasant, a peasant was more free than a serf and a serf was more free than a slave (generally speaking). “Slavery” is typically used ONLY to indicate the absence of all or almost all legal rights and freedoms when speaking historically.
@giorgiofontane2655
@giorgiofontane2655 4 жыл бұрын
but natives have the same rights as whites since 1512
@pookalobster3
@pookalobster3 4 жыл бұрын
This is AMAZING!!!
@yanadnadya
@yanadnadya 4 жыл бұрын
Hey great content! Im new here ^^ can you make a video with the origin of capitalism? Or money?? 3_3 idk i once heard there said it begins to 'remove' monarchy, is it true? Or its about smth else? Im honestly curious 👉👈✨
@BigWoodzCBCL
@BigWoodzCBCL 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!!
@sociologica4247
@sociologica4247 3 жыл бұрын
the "funny" thing is that in Spain for example, until the 1900s or so Spanish people that were poor were also slaves to the owners of lands. In Europe, it was common to be a slave just because of your money status. Roman empire did the same and all of the countries I can think of according to European history we study in school.
@AshiwiZuni
@AshiwiZuni 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously? What kind of question is this? Of course they did.
@Duquedecastro
@Duquedecastro Жыл бұрын
No they didn’t it was illegal according to the Laws of Burgos and Leyes Nuevas
@AshiwiZuni
@AshiwiZuni Жыл бұрын
@@Duquedecastro lmao
@Duquedecastro
@Duquedecastro Жыл бұрын
@@AshiwiZuni lmao to your “thinking skills”
@AshiwiZuni
@AshiwiZuni Жыл бұрын
@@Duquedecastro oh man you really got me. Be sure to tell all 0 friends you have about that.
@Duquedecastro
@Duquedecastro Жыл бұрын
@@AshiwiZuni Only a smooth brain brings personal things up where they don’t belong, not to mention you have zero knowledge about my number of friends. Figures though, the more you write, the more it shows your level of intelligence
@claudiofunchal1392
@claudiofunchal1392 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you are working on a video - Regarding the religions views influence affect on slavery!
@robertward553
@robertward553 3 жыл бұрын
Why the hell did you turn off comments on your slavery vid? I know why, you didn't want comments calling BULLSHIT.
@tommunyon2874
@tommunyon2874 4 жыл бұрын
Even though "Death Comes for the Archbishop" is a work of fiction Willa Cather based the story on historical facts. The novel touches on the plight of the Pueblo peoples under the thumb of Spanish clerics. The people of Acoma exacted revenge in the form of summary execution of a tyrannical priest who caused the death of a servant while in a fit of rage.
@MartelSanders
@MartelSanders 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the indigenous "african" people of north america 🙏🏽
@MSanz-jc2bg
@MSanz-jc2bg 3 жыл бұрын
Fake news.
@EternalEmperorofZakuul
@EternalEmperorofZakuul Жыл бұрын
It's gonna be showing the bell curve and the contributions you did for mankind which is nothing
@elizabethdavis1696
@elizabethdavis1696 4 жыл бұрын
The KZbinr city beautiful did a video on the laws of the indies but he video mostly focused on the city planning aspect which is what his channel is about
@BombSquad2025
@BombSquad2025 3 жыл бұрын
My people were enslaved by the Egyptians 3500 years ago. Still haven’t gotten over it, might need a hug.
@macsnafu
@macsnafu 4 жыл бұрын
So, like the term "human trafficking", we're going to broaden the term 'enslavement' until it's meaningless? If specific human rights violations are occurring, we should probably stick to describing them in specific terms, instead of trying to include them in some umbrella term that gives people wrong ideas about what is occurring.
@thomgri
@thomgri 4 күн бұрын
carlos quintos was the 15th inca emperor.
@prettypeachy5110
@prettypeachy5110 3 жыл бұрын
I love all your vids ❤
@allenman97
@allenman97 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on how public schools started in America.
@thomgri
@thomgri 4 күн бұрын
not african, moor and european. north africa was part of southern europe at that time. many moors married into the rest of the colonies of europe due to the conquests of the berbers.
@cannibalmanimal2336
@cannibalmanimal2336 2 жыл бұрын
Answer: of course
@usaintltrade
@usaintltrade 3 жыл бұрын
NEVER
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