DID HE WIN!? Mac Lethal - Tom MacDonald DISS (Single White Female)

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[@draper2310]

Simbas a goat

[@RealSimbaTv]

Means a lot 💯

[@amberdunham1870]

That he is! 💯💯

[@rjw4149]

I thought simba was a lion🤔

[@that-guuy9459]

Jack swagger 😂😂😂

[@shanepeterman6054]

mdgopro literally or figuratively?

[@MrThenonchosenone]

Tom didn't say anything negative about his daughter, he just said that Mac was a bad dad

[@xzshroomzx9601]

You just don't ever bring up someone's daughter that's disrespectful to begin with. Calling him a bad dad obviously pissed him off no one wants to be called a bad dad

[@DJ.1.]

dissing him in his part beeing a dad, is the same thing. so stop crying like a baby

[@juggalo1277]

Tom never dissed icp he said "you rapped with icp and your still the a bigger clown"

[@fezcarstuff5851]

@@eugeneshrader5233 whats that supposed to mean?

[@johnkendrick6198]

@chateucaddy lol that's goofy af what girl hasn't slept with other dudes

[@HypnosinceProductions]

@@eugeneshrader5233 lmfao HAWT CHICKEN ….. already know WHOOP WHOOP

[@eugeneshrader5233]

@@HypnosinceProductions you already know what ?

[@juggalo1277]

@hawt chicken do you mean I need to do my research

[@dyingslowly666]

Tom never dissed his daughter he told mac to be a father to his daughter

[@fezcarstuff5851]

True

[@Adam-ob5fb]

Even though he didn’t diss his daughter, he did bring his daughter into it and that can make people mad

[@pitbullkngz7236]

@@Adam-ob5fb I can see where it would make someone made to be called a shitty father but I mean if the shoe fits ya wear it and when your snorting oxy up your nose your not being a good father

[@chrisdozer13]

James Smith he had an oxy problem before his family. Mac is actually a great father. As a father lethal had complete justification taking as a diss.

[@1ondon272]

He is a battle rapper you bring up his daughter he coming for your throat. The same way MGK didn't diss Eminem's daughter, he mentioned her and Em ended him.

[@almcewen3621]

Funny how he brings up Tom blocking people on twitter for hate. yet he deleted everything on his IG because of comments.

[@b4sicscrub757]

Bro if you had some dick riding fans in your comment saying some disrespectful shit on all your post you would archive your shit to. I mean mac is a family man i get why he did that. Im not even a mac fan i jus get it.

[@JLCra87]

8:00 Mac calls out Tom for blocking people on twitter... Mac deleted his entire twitter feed going all the way back. So umm.... Hypocrisy much?

[@MrDavidelliottjr]

Mac sucks.

[@awkwardninja5738]

Not sure how deleting your twitter is the same as blocking people.

[@JLCra87]

@@awkwardninja5738 How is it not? If anything its even worse. What's he hiding? 😂

[@awkwardninja5738]

@@JLCra87 well blocking people means they cant say anything to you anymore. Deleting just means shit is gone. People can still say shit to him. As far as why he did, i dont care. Im not a fan of either of them. Im just here for the disses.

[@JLCra87]

@@awkwardninja5738 Every post that someone would say something to is gone lol. The only thing you can comment on is the one post he has on his Twitter. You can still say whatever you want to Tom on any of his posts. Mac is in hiding. That speaks for itself lol.

[@sethgoff4985]

What diss did mac lethal listen to? He never dissed his daughter or ICP

[@awkwardninja5738]

He said his daughter wasnt being raised right. Thats kind of a diss on her. Either way he shouldnt of brought her up. He also kinda dissed ICP. In the context of the line he referring to talent. So basically he said hes so untalented that rapping with these untalented guys he's still the worst. Also, J did try to fuck Nova quite a bit. Im sure hes still salty about that.

[@exoticwc4632]

@@awkwardninja5738 he told Mac to be a better father and focus on raising his kid, and compared his skills to how icp look. Icp are clowns. It's not a diss to call insane clown posse clowns.

[@Abears_]

If this was a normal diss then it wasn't bad at all but the fact that he backpedaled then said "He took the bait" and now he's taking all Tom's stuff at only face value when Tom already told him to go look up "Satire" he just did what Tom said he'd do so...... Also everyone was swearing up and down Mac would come back and murder him in a diss but this wasn't an automatic hands down win. Like I said if there was no backstory and Tom didn't come out and say exactly what Mac was gonna do then yea the diss would have had some meat to it but it just seems like Mac took the easy way out and completely missed everything Tom said in his diss

[@shanewilliams6772]

I agree n alot of stuff isn't true that Mac said also....plus Mac said lines that he already tweeted to tom like bout subscribers n that stuff lol...so I say it's a tie ....but Mac still back peddled hard n looked like a fool before it even started...plus Mac started it with his tweet he was being a sjw from the start then called tom a sjw lol WTH ...lol but I sat it's a tie so far ....

[@Abears_]

@@shanewilliams6772 Yea I agree with you except for the tie part just because it wasn't how diss tracks start. If Mac wanted to battle and he's this huge battle rapper then his actions alone loose him this round. If he comes back at Tom with actual lines and facts like Upchurch does in his diss tracks then he might actually have a chance. If Mac is smart he'll listen to the people who are telling him what he did wrong a fix it. Just like that scru face dude. His first diss was wack and dumb but after so many people told him that he came back with a decent diss (although he still lost because it was a battle with Upchurch). I just think this was an attempt to bring more views to Macs channel. That's why I refuse to click on anything by him because I'm not a fan of people doing underhanded crap like that

[@shanewilliams6772]

True very true...I understand what u mean...n a battle rapper should know to come with facts....I think he was more worried bout ryming then facts too...I do think he did it for views also

[@KickomoYT]

Tom Won For sure Mac brought up stuff that Tom Defiantly didn’t say like for example Tom didn’t diss his daughter but Mac said he completely dissed her too. And not to mention the fact that Mac really didn’t stay on beat

[@rogerbalkoski6658]

Mac: "You're not controversial" Also Mac: I don't need controversy How is Tom both not controversial but uses controversy?

[@calebearwood]

HOG in the marine corps means Hunter Of Gunmen, it’s marine corps snipers nicknames. He pulled that from urban dictionary.

[@Arobisme]

You've never heard of it referred to as a hog before?

[@AlfredFJones1776]

No he didn’t. All he did was make fun of Tom’s hair and said his girlfriend was a whore. Also, Mac said on twitter and in his KZbin description that he would not do round 2. So if Tom responds then Tom wins automatically.

[@RealSimbaTv]

I still want Tom to come out an eat him in round two

[@swenmeyer5651]

Lmao.... he said he wasnt talking about Tom in his tweet either.....so ya never know...🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@FtwNil]

I've been saying the same thing. I don't think many people actually listened to his rap cuz everything he brought up, he actually did. And he never dissed his daughter, he said 5 words that included that fact that he had a daughter, but Mac on the other hand made an entire verse about Tom's girlfriend, which had nothing to do with it. Mac called Tom an SJW, but he is acting like everything he said. And Tom is from Canada, but he lives in Cali. Mac doesn't seem like he knows what he is talking about, plus injecting his political views in everything all the sudden.

[@JaysinStatic13813]

@@FtwNil Mac is a SJW has been for awhile.

[@swenmeyer5651]

@Michael D not at first he didnt

[@jdconnors6810]

Now its time to see what Tom can really do👍👍

[@Outkast353]

Oh we have seen and it was ugly. Poor Mac lol

[@jdconnors6810]

@@Outkast353 yeah I saw it like 18 minutes after Tom posted it on Facebook. Poor Mac is right 😂😂

[@Outkast353]

I stopped a meeting at work to watch it as soon as I saw the notification

[@jdconnors6810]

@@Outkast353 😂😂😂

[@beckyleavitt7808]

I'm 52 and his sh@t is ancient. He couldn't do better than this? Tom didn't diss his daughter. He told Mac he needs to be a better dad.

[@Outkast353]

I think Mac won if you dont fact check him. If you fact check him a lot of meat falls of the bones of this diss.

[@shanewilliams6772]

That's how I feel so I say it's a tie since Mac lied n back peddled to....plus some disses he already said in his tweet so he recycled lol...if he didn't do that I would have said he won....but since he did I say it's a tie n up to round to to see who is the winner ...ya know what I mean.

[@chrisdozer13]

I fact checked and everything comes back as fact. Look it all up

[@pitbullkngz7236]

@@chrisdozer13 lol idk how you fact checked unless you know the guys he supposedly got his info from

[@Outkast353]

@@chrisdozer13 you fact checked everything huh? So Mac Lethal said his most popular video got more views than Tom's whole channel that's fact right? Except it's not. Tom's channel has 59.4 million views while Macs top video from 7 years ago has 39.4 million Its like this over and over once you actually look into it.

[@generalkayoss7347]

This shit is WEEEAAAAKKKK ASF!!! Every other bar is some generic geriatric shit! lmao

[@LumberjackMC]

"Why he look like Jack Swagger?" That's shit had me dying 😂😂😂😂

[@mylifeasemily]

Thanks to you, we listen to both Mac Lethal and Tom MacDonald. I have to say, we definitely enjoy Toms music a lot more than macs

[@thoughtfulldane4502]

Tom is great at rhymes and lyrics, mac can spew a shittorrent, i prefer to the point quality over less than great quantity.

[@mattmoorman17]

Honestly I think Tom went easy just to get a reply from Mac. Now that Mac went all in I think Tom will slay him in round two

[@Omegamorbidia]

Hard to slay in round two when you got knocked the fuck out in round one.

[@JLCra87]

@@Omegamorbidia Hardly. Mac talks like a teenager from 1999. Vajayjay, really...? This was corny and one of the weirdest beats I've ever heard. Sounds like circus music.

[@mattmoorman17]

@@Omegamorbidia really he didn't knock anyone out. He also brought up stuff that nobody cared about. Tom McDonald never said he wrote his own lyrics in fact if you watch any of his videos he shows who wrote his lyrics.

[@mjay776]

@@mattmoorman17 naw that ain't never cool being a rapper with someone else writing your lyrics foh

[@GothFaceOfficial]

@@JLCra87 alright lil pump listener

[@trae_seymourmotivationalsp4102]

Tom MacDonald just dropped a second diss, it’s fire!

[@windwalker4094]

Thanks for mentioning what no one else has - the tweet WAS about Tom.

[@Strxggle96]

Tbh it might have been about Adam Calhoun not Tom. Because Adam was all over the California news right when he tweeted that out, and the description also fits him

[@dwg8084]

Tom took offense to a tweet that wasn't meant for him. I'm not saying that's true but I can still hurt his feelings without being about him. And that would make it even more Petty.

[@mikeellis6363]

Tom was just playing with him to get mac to respond cuz tom will go a lot harder.

[@phillwilkinson8319]

why would you start weak.. this guy just killed Tom, he has already said no matter what Tom says it's over for him..took a week to do research killed him & pulled out, don't fuck with old ass battlerappers .. seen it so many times over the years

[@thoughtfulldane4502]

@@phillwilkinson8319 I disagree, spewing alot of filler doesnt kill anyone, while tom makes mac look like a 5 year old when it comes to rhyme and lyrics tbh, but thats my opinion.

[@thoughtfulldane4502]

@@phillwilkinson8319 Which diss rap is more memorable: Macs typical shittorrent of filler with little substance and little rhyme ability or toms musically, rhythmic and lyrical diss? I go for tom.

[@milehighpatriots2986]

@@phillwilkinson8319 because now he is gonna show the lies mac just said and did..like tom said dave im trying to be nice..picture your life flipping my burgers go get me some fries..

[@johnnydamm22]

lol dude you realy are delusional tammy macdogfart didnt even know how to diss cause he comes only with cheap shots and then 8 times the old jokes or bringing family into it do you just ignore all of that and still dare to say that tom will come harder cause he only was playing dude go to the fcking dentist and let him clean out your mouth tammy is buried with this diss from mac lethal...... its facts

[@IMMoreThanUSee]

Dude WAS Canadian. He's in America now so, now he's an American

[@HaveButOneLife]

Mac's was weaker, still good, but not as good as Lethal Injection. And David has the nerve to call Tom an "SJW" when he's talking about "muh white boy isn't oppressed". Hypocrisy at its finest. And he completely glanced over the "satire" bar from Tom's diss, and brought up "muh oppression" again.

[@prodonyx7445]

Most of Toms disses are not even that good and dont even make sense after Mac's diss

[@batrat18]

Yea it does show how ignorant MAC really is. And it just proved Toms point.

[@richardsinclair7661]

Brady Are you fucking crazy? Tom McDonald's diss was awful. Basically MGK's diss to Eminem, but not as catchy. There weren't any memorable bars in it whatsoever.

[@mtnman8876]

I'm The old guy int the comments i have listened to lethal a long time and just getting into Tom's music. I feel as though Tom is on another level with more meaning behind his disses. Lethals diss sounded like what I would have heard in the early 90s

[@batrat18]

@@Arobisme Just like you did. You can honestly say that you could bump mac lethals song going down the road and sit down and really enjoy it? Over and over? I know i cant. There is nothing to enjoy. Except maybe what hes saying. And even then its mostly insults calling Tom a female. Alot of opinion. compared to what Tom said its just bland. No unique sound, terrible flow and rhyme scheme. You're judging his victory based on one aspect, his words. Which his lines should be better he had an entire week to respond and research. Tom had 1 day. And I would say his bars and the meaning behind them were much deeper and more intelligen than macs. Again Mac just proved Toms point. Showing he lacks the brain capacity to understand his lyrics. saying he thinks Tom is "oppressed" and an sjw. Tom even told him to "look up satire" and he still didn't get it. Then Mac proved he was just lying when he said he wasn't talking about Tom with this diss. Looks like clout stealing to me. This shits is wayyy over hyped by super fans. It sounds like you're more bias than him. But then again you should understand that everyone is going to have bias. That includes you.

[@jimmysaulsbury]

Mac Lethal has net worth of $2 million dollars and Tom Macdonald has net worth of $12 million dollars it not about how many subscribers you have

[@swenmeyer5651]

Looked at 5 different web site...worth is different in all...cant believe everything you read

[@jimmysaulsbury]

I always go to google

[@jacobprince5137]

I'm pretty sure if he was worth 12 million he wouldn't have had to set up a gofund me for his girlfriend's emergency room bills a year or 2 ago.. maybe so.. but I'd question the ethics of someone with that kind of earning potential asking for fan donations when alot of his fan base likely has little to spare but feel indebted to him for his lyrical contributions helping them in hard times... I'm glad she was able to recover and all but seems a little disingenuous if he had that kind of asset accessibility..

[@jimmysaulsbury]

You probably right it not about money or subscribers it the bars and the views we’ll see how the views go

[@JamesJames-yh4ok]

@@jacobprince5137 of anything the money he got wouldve been made in the last year ik hes not worth 12million but how could you say hes stealing from his fans when that was two years ago and he just now blew up?

[@GokuSuper69]

A 13 year old trans girl, mad at her parents, emailed him the lyrics to this diss track.

[@kyletidrick3289]

Creative G I feel like I’m watching a Childrens show watching Mac rap

[@jessem7251]

OMG it's like Eminem and MGK all over again lol 😂

[@Outkast353]

I expected more for the time. It came off like a freestyle. The only thing that hit hard for me was the stuff on his GF but I dont know if I trust it due to other lies/inaccuracies. I'm sure his GF does help him with his songs as shes basically his producer(and hes hers). Ghost writing half? 🤷‍♂️ Just a few notes; -Says Tom was a frat boy but Mac STILL looks like a frat boy. -Tom lives in California -He didnt diss his daughter(unless saying shes Mac's is a diss) -He didnt diss icp -We all know hes Canadian and used to be a wrestler. -The wrestling footage was kind of goofy, I'm sure Mac has been in some funny looking positions in BJJ that could be looped to look gay. -Calling him a girls name added nothing to the diss. -Tom is much taller than Mac but he never said how tall he is. A promo picture for a song isnt a lie. -The last line about his name was a no hitter for me. -Mac basically admitted he WAS talking about Tom so the whole back tracking was true. -i dont know if Tom blocks people but Mac deleted every post on his twitter and IG. And he locks comments on controversial videos on KZbin. -Candice Owen's is awesome, now we're making compliments? -Mac's most popular video DOES NOT have more views than Tom's whole channel, it's somewhat close though. I have some issues with Tom's diss too. It's hard for me to judge who won. I think Mac wins if you dont discount the lies/stretches.

[@shanewilliams6772]

That's what I say to....so I say it's a tie since Mac lied n back peddled ....plus he said couple lines he already said to tom in his tweet so he recycled like dax lol...so I give it a tie cuz he did have couple bars but with all the other stuff he did it evened it out ...so I'm my opinion I say it's a tie n round two will decide the winner...ya know what I mean...

[@JaysinStatic13813]

I say it's a tie based off the lies.

[@lucyswannsunsafespace7313]

He's (mac) definitely an SJW, which immediately cancels out ANY sympathy I might feel for him being put to sleep in lethal injection. This entire re-diss reeks of SJW deflection. I hate deflecting. Take responsibility for your shit, which he did, but then turns around and goes back at Tom, completely ignoring the ACTUAL lyrics in lethal injection (which he kind of did in his tweet regarding SWM as well) and throwing shit at him that may or may not be true at Tom. This reminds me of everything about my CHILDREN that made me want to chokeslam them while they were growing up. Me: What are you doing? You're in them cookies ain't you? 10yo: No!! That wasn't me! I didn't do it! Me: You know it's worse when you lie, right? 10yo: But I didn't! I swear mama!! Me: One mo time. Lie to me one mo time. 10yo: It wasn't me mama! Me: So why are your teeth brown? Been eating out the litter box? 10yo: Fine! I got ONE! But 6yo got into your makeup!! Me: **grabs belt, which wouldn't have been grabbed had you not lied to me twice** 10yo: But mama I told the TRUUUUUUTTTHHHH!! You don't even care that she got into your makeup!!! Me: **swings belt, connecting with buttock** Nope. You lied, I'll deal with her later. All that childish shit. Every time someone does that deflection shit, I immediately go deaf.

[@TonyTheLoneRiderSmith]

That's why u can't declare a winner which sadly people are but we gotta hear more but great post man u said a lot of correct things!

[@charlesneal1264]

Tom isn't 6'4 trust me bro ive met him in persin shook his hand hes shorter then me and im 6'4 but hes dope and way better then mac

[@ehobbs78]

He didn't win, Tom baited him now Tom will destroy him.

[@chronicinokla]

I saw on other page that Mac had posted Tom took the bait. Then his page disappeared?? Tom mentioned daughter was at home, never dissed her just his fathering. Then KZbin views isn't accurate! I checked. His diss about being a girl clothes etc... Was for video ( satire). Hog is for "hangovergang". I used to like him but he is a clout chaser!!!!

[@yuugur666]

You know Tom is the one chasing clout here, right? And you don't seem to know how battlerap works lol

[@michalelston568]

Would you get HOG tatted under your lip....if it could get misinterpreted. I had to watch MacDonalds slow rap in FFWD just so it would be entertaining....there was zero "OH damn moments" in Macdonalds diss. Oh no your old..... I mean 7 yrs older and thats the diss you come up with... I got it your a fan... But for fuck sake....

[@DmanLucky_98]

​@@michalelston568 I do get where you were coming from, expecting a diss track to have those "oh damn" moments. I think the slow, non-punchy disses were the scheme about Mac and his fast style. This is nothing for Tom to worry about, I pretty sure he's just letting Mac vent out his anger on disses that middle schoolers use daily. Nothing creative coming from Mac either. My 2 cents: As diss tracks between Mac & Tom, Mac did his research and did a great job, while Tom could use some work on a bettering his offense. IF Tom does come bout with another diss, hopefully, he can learn from his mistakes and do better.

[@michalelston568]

@@DmanLucky_98 finally somebody with a honest well put comment. We will see in round 2 hopefully

[@toddrupard8974]

Thats what i called Mac out on myself Simba. He said the tweet wasnt about Tom. So it just shows Mac wad LYING....

[@thoughtfulldane4502]

and he backpedalled, then he responded after several days with shittorrent filler with little substance and says he wont continue to round 2, lets see if his pants are ablaze in a week or two :D toms gonna whack mac like a cat in a bag :D

[@toddrupard8974]

@@thoughtfulldane4502 yeah he knows he doesnt want a round 2 cause Tom Tom done got his number and i guarantee is about too body Mac patty

[@spikeanny5710]

Half of the bars didn't rhyme and the cadence was just... bad

[@toddrupard8974]

@@spikeanny5710 yeah that mess was just wack.

[@lucyswannsunsafespace7313]

That was only the first lie of macs in this whole mess. I consider the Candace Owens “bar” a personal attack against Tom’s fan base, because the people listening and getting the deeper messages behind the lyrics, would also be the same type of people that would agree with her. That’s one point. The next is bringing her into it when’s she’s prolly never even heard of either of them, therefore more literally nothing to do with this beef than macs daughter or tom’s gf. And finally, calling the one person a fake that’s actually fighting for a community you “tweet defend”, while simultaneously pander to the victimhood narrative. Then in the next breath, basically brag about everything you have, which is something those people you’re keyboard warrioring for will likely never get a taste of. You can defend with keystrokes and words, but can/will you go into these communities to risk death at the hands of the people you’re trying to get woke? I think not. Candace and Tom HAVE and will continue, long after macs bitch ass forgot, moved on and chilled in his pool, at his mansion. Yeah. Shit’s that deep to me.

[@nikkifoss2299]

Also 90% of the bars could have been written by a 3rd grader in a playground diss 😂

[@JLCra87]

For real... vajayjay... felt like I stepped back into 1999 for this one. Corny as hell with a weird ass track.

[@mtnman8876]

I agree he is just proving what Tom said in his diss. At some point a man needs to retire this sounded like a diss 20 years ago

[@michalelston568]

I guess you would of liked it better if he mumbled it then......throw some 808's on it, so you can't understand a thing......you know "good" music of todays rap. DID YOU EVEN LISTEN TO MACDONALD SONG>>>>WHAT MADE IT BETTER........DONT WORRY ILL WAIT

[@erichargrove2287]

@@michalelston568 It has replay value. SWF is a listen to once and put it away song.

[@docward5983]

By both

[@kyletownsend3366]

While Mac came out trying to swing, he did have good bars but I don't think he was impressive. He just kinda proved he's exactly what Tom said and what he claims Tom is as far as SJW and shit. Mac seems to be clout chasing more than not.

[@ghostjet4802]

You are definitely riding Tom McDonald's junk or u really don't know shit about rap. Either or u don't know shit.

[@stillme1065]

@@ghostjet4802 Facts Bro

[@JesusChrist-uu2te]

Been listening to rap since the early 90's. Thought Mac's comeback was weak tbh. Beat was weird. Lyrics weren't all that.

[@bradsmith2790]

@Paul Staerkel Sure, Mac had more hits, but they were very weak. Even with all of the old jokes, Tom still had heavy hits in it that I feel outweigh the old jokes. Plus, Tom made an actual video with a great beat just one day after the tweet. Mac had 3 days and came with that shit beat and weak bars

[@8infinity892]

First of all,- i dont really care who you guys are rooting for BUT if you guys are RapListener of the 90s you would love the beat :) cause this is an EazyE Beat,- and EazyE was a KILLER with Beats and Lyrics,- Dre produced insane Beats back in the Days. and EazyE had his own Style.

[@424stormygirl]

Makes me feel like its 30 years ago and I'm in a cheap comedy club.

[@rjw4149]

Mac is good but he shouldnt have even responded. The only logical reason for Mac to respond is because he knows Tom is popin rn and Mac knows his views will go up.

[@pitbullkngz7236]

Somebody finally said it

[@donaldfrank2694]

I would agree, but, Lethal is a battle rapper, maybe not active anymore but at his core, and battle rappers are competitive. Tom took his shot and being a competitive person Lethal HAD to respond.

[@WhiteSage2]

@@donaldfrank2694 Lethal sucks this shit was straight corny

[@21tom21lin21son21]

He definitely shouldn’t have responded. That weak ass “diss track” wasn’t even worth a response XD I’m glad he did tho. Now we can see if tom brings the fire or if he tucks his tail.

[@21tom21lin21son21]

Remember tho, he only has 24 hours or he’s automatically trash! (Most people’s logic)

[@jeremyseabolt7414]

I've been waiting all day for this! 👏👏🙌🙌💯💯

[@RealSimbaTv]

🙏🏾

[@QueenBeeNC]

Agreed on Mac denied then came back.. he should have at least stuck to his story or made some bars about HIS mess up in there

[@chrisdozer13]

QueenBeeNC it was bait. Just like Mac said “if you are who you say you are” how could this one little tweet about a much smaller artist “the five foot eight guy” offend him? Tom took the bait and ended up in the frying pan bruh

[@milehighpatriots2986]

@@chrisdozer13 frying pan the ending was even wack now toms dad is macs father..tom can spin that anyway he wants..his views on youtube are a lie..he is a has been and never will be again

[@Shaggymoore4]

Christopher bale It wasn’t bait , Mac is back pedaling and trying to cover his ass there is no other explanation. His so called “ research “ is trash and inaccurate. Mac just showed his ignorance.

[@jsmr2281]

@@Shaggymoore4 It's hard to read the actual words in your response with all the butthurt seeping out of them

[@Shaggymoore4]

J SMR That’s a typical response from someone who is too ignorant to have an intelligent debate. Keep trying though kid.

[@emerywelch9563]

Tom mcdonald respondald already called mac lethal sux and its 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 damn!!!!!!!

[@nikkifoss2299]

This is weak just based on the fact that he claims things he hears from friends are facts lol they would be rumors. Js 😂 Tom is gonna wreck this dude Tom didn't diss his daughter Or ICP

[@KyleAndersonMusic]

Guess tom was on point when he said "You are all opinions I am all facts"

[@trogen-hk8rt]

dude stop posting bullshit, what part of tom lost do u not understand, do your research.

[@RayMustachio]

This aged well 👍

[@DavidDiaz-nm3ef]

I'm glad you understand that rushing something quick isn't really a good thing. Not sure why fan push whole thing of you have respond right away. Back in the day we didn't here responses 24 hours later. They took their time to craft rhymes.

[@JaysinStatic13813]

Mac the Martial artists does Jujitsu which is Grappling and Rolling around the ground with other men. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@1ondon272]

The wrestling Tom was involved in is play fighting and rolling around in your underwear which I'm sure you would agree is worse then Jujitsu.

[@JaysinStatic13813]

@@1ondon272 have you ever Worked in the Pro Wrestling business? While it's predetermined it is a very physically demanding endeavor. There several dudes who you say play fight are straight brusier in real life. Also it's not Underwear dimwit there it's long tights, trunks, shorts, Jean's all kinds of different looks and styles. Also BJJ can be used with Gi or trunks. I'm not taking anything away from either one tbh, just stating that they both roll around on the ground with dudes.

[@1ondon272]

@@JaysinStatic13813 "While it's predetermined it is a very physically demanding endeavor." First thing first, if you going to call someone a dimwit it would help if you could spell correctly and not embarrass yourself and its "endeavour". "There several dudes who you say play fight are straight brusier in real life." firstly it's "bruiser" and secondly I never said there weren't any wrestlers who aren't "straight bruisers" so why you getting your panties in a twist over something I didn't even say haha. Also, the underwear comment was sarcasm dimwit. "just stating that they both roll around on the ground with dudes." apart from one is an actual contest and the other one is a show with a predetermined winner.

[@JaysinStatic13813]

FiRsT tHiNgS fIrSt Reeeeee... Ok Mr. Grammar Nazi. 💁‍♂️💁‍♂️ So the fact that one is a legitimate competitive contest negates the fact that they both Roll around on the ground? Ok Got it.... 🤷‍♂️ smdh "Panties in a wad" Don't wear panties Son, Boxers all the way or maybe even some "Wrestling Underwear Trunks, Tights." If I'm in the mood to Wrassle. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I mentioned "Bruisers" because you seem to be coming off as the type of person who goes, "WrEsTlInG iS fAkE, tHeY aRe A bUnCh Of PuSsIeS.." So I figured I'd mention that's not the case Bro.

[@macaulaypayne4216]

It's a weak diss by Mac and I train in Jiu-jitsu as well, either activity you have to have a lot of physical contact. It wouldn't be hard to find a quick vid of something happpening in Jiu-jitsu match and make it look gay just like Mac did.

[@michaelpaaske6618]

Tom MacDonald just dropped a response like 10 minutes ago and after hearing it I realized that he was just sizing him up with that first one and now he killed him

[@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet]

I don't think Mac is a battle type like sayyyyy..... Church (the GOAT of clap backs.) I think it was funny to an extent. But the facts ain't there. He was reaching. That said..... I'm pumped to see what Tom does. We all know he was rolling on that dis to Mac super super soft

[@mightymouseandlittlemouse2332]

Mac lethal STARTED in battle rap. So this is his niche. Love both artists, so I hope this keeps rolling.

[@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet]

@chateucaddy nothing was hard about Tom's dis. That's what I said in my post. That it was soft as hell. I don't follow either one of them. So I'm giving an unbiased opinion. Unlike some of the butt hurt fan boys on this page.

[@VerbalDroppings]

Since I don't usually react to rap I've been watching this from the sidelines...if we get round 2 I'm jumpin in lol

[@MandaloreIII]

He really did come back with something to make Tom have to fire back. Both of them did really fuckin’ well tbh.

[@thoughtfulldane4502]

Well, if mac responds after the fact he has contradicted himself twice. since he writes in the description that hes not gonna engage anymore, like a wuss.

[@xavina1000]

@@thoughtfulldane4502 My dude, MAC does not have to engage again. He straight up killed Tom. Mac doesn't have to concern himself with untalanted crybabies. There is no coming back for Tom.

[@MandaloreIII]

Thoughtfull Dane - I wouldn’t mind it, honestly, if it helps revive his career he should go for it. Maybe when people start showing up to his channel again he’ll start rapping more and more.

[@MandaloreIII]

Mr.SprayNPray - Like I said in my previous comment, I think they both did really well. But I agree, Mac did really bring the heat in this one. And Tom is *really* going to have to throw gas onto his own flame if he’s gonna beat Mac.

[@thoughtfulldane4502]

@@xavina1000 fast rapping doesnt a good rapper make.

[@TheRealChappie]

Been Waiting for this!!

[@RealSimbaTv]

🤘🏾🤘🏾

[@TheRealChappie]

@@RealSimbaTv Brooo idk, I fuck with Tom and Mac Lethal but i think Mac just won, I really hope we get a round 2

[@rjvandenvrijhoef6317]

I’ve watched this diss a bunch of times but then simba posted had to see his reaction 👍😬I think Mac won round 1 and believe me I’m a Tom Macdonald fan

[@pitbullkngz7236]

My question is how can he win when he went false on 2 accounts of his diss the icp accusation Tom never dissed icp and then saying he dissed his daughter he never dissed his daughter he dissed his parenting and told him to be a better father, completely different things. Maybe mac's hearing is as bad as Tom was saying

[@Arobisme]

@@pitbullkngz7236 it's obvious you are way too deep on Tom's side to look at it unbiased. Mention someone's daughter at all in a diss is disrespectful. Why does it matter if he said he dissed icp? His lines can be taken that way or not, doesn't really matter. You're really reaching to defend him...

[@mjay776]

@@pitbullkngz7236 Tom has had beef with ICP cause his girl used to mess with them. That's why he said your girls a jugalette. And I fuckin hate ICP

[@lloydedens1553]

@@pitbullkngz7236 js Tom has dissed icp on a podcast, and has went live to do it.

[@pitbullkngz7236]

@@lloydedens1553 that's irrelevant in this song he didnt dis them here that's the point

[@jonathonbinkley2284]

Been waiting on this.

[@RealSimbaTv]

Sorry for the wait !

[@jonathonbinkley2284]

@@RealSimbaTv no need to apologize man. I don't think I've clicked that fast before. I just was waiting on your reaction. I've already listened to this song

[@shanewilliams6772]

Tom never dissed his daughter....he said to be a father to his daughter...n he never dissed icp he said Mac was still a clown even after singing with icp....he says a bunch of lies in this diss but he also has some good bars tho ....but he also lied n back peddled bout his tweet saying he didn't know Tom n it wasn't bout him then he said he took the bait in a tweet n admits it was bout him n he admits it was about him in this song to by what he says.... He also says a bunch of stuff he already said in his tweet so he pulled a dax n recycled some lines lol.....so idk ....if he didn't do all that stuff I would have said Mac won but with all that stuff I'd have to say it's a tie so far ... I wish he wouldn't of did all that stuff cuz I would have said he won round one but I can't ....I gotta say it's a tie so far...that's just my opinions tho....plus I think he gave most of his good stuff in this diss so I don't know how his next one will be ....Tom still probly got some good stuff to say still so idk I'd have to say it's up to who wins the next round to me cuz so far I'd say it's a tie only cuz Mac back peddled n lied n recycled ya know what I mean....just my opinions tho ....what do u all think??

[@jamesmoncrief728]

I think Tom is gonna body bag him. He said he was trying to be nice in round one. This dis was again cheap in imo.

[@mjay776]

He doesn't even rap with ICP he was just on the same tour as them. And Tom has had beef with ICP cause his girl used to bang them that's what that was from

[@canceledculture435]

dont bring up daughters did no one learn this from Eminem? doesnt matter how big or small the dis was. dont. do. it. cause then all gloves are off.

[@canceledculture435]

@Kendall Albano but she was mentioned. See my previous comment 😂 doesn't matter how much she was dissed tom brought it up and Mac finished that. Lol

[@shanewilliams6772]

Tom said he was being nice lol...I can't wait til toms response again lmao...I guerentee Mac is gonna be even more pist off then he already is lmao n I think Mac gave all he had in this dis so he won't be able to match it again...but just my opinions lol...

[@jakek7112]

SIMBA!! DISS NUMBER TWO JUST DROPPED

[@swenmeyer5651]

🤣🤣🤣🤣...being a pro battle rapper....he saved a bunch for rd 2...going to be epic

[@jerredwayne8401]

Mac said he wont keep going

[@charlesneal1264]

This was all he had and it took a week sad tom wrotw his in under 24 houra and still had a better beat song and lyrics this sounded like a 13 yr old wrote it

[@swenmeyer5651]

@@charlesneal1264 plz...bitch

[@swenmeyer5651]

Who wrote your comment...a 5 yr old...🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@swenmeyer5651]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....that's right it's dis season

[@juneharris2018]

There's a difference between mentioning someone's daughter and then actually talking shit about them.... Like I said on Milehigh's video, Tom was telling Mac to focus on being a better father. Never talked about his daughter directly. Mac is a hypocrite for calling Tom the SJW and Mac is the one throwing the disgusting cheap shots here.

[@Royalchamp31]

It should had been fire 🔥 took this dude so long to respond I really don't respect that trash 😠 if u can't be a MAN and at least own what u say that's a big no-no but he did a good job with the come back hope Tom comes back with something! Great video brah keep the great work up!!

[@kennyjfresh1]

scott Smith Amen Brother! Great parenting example he gives his daughter, when you do something dumb, lie about it! Father of the year award? Maybe for Tom MacDonalds dad!

[@kennyjfresh1]

chateucaddy I was a DJ on the first Rap station in Los Angeles, I have an ounce rap battles. I get it. But I have no respect for people who lie when they get caught. Every time I have been in trouble, I admit it. Lying to cover it up only makes things worse. It’s not a secret, it’s logic.

[@kylesteele7130]

Bro i have legit been waiting since lastnight for this video!!!!😵😵😵

[@eagleal3]

Tom won. Tom didnt say anything negative about macs daughter. He siad mac should take care of his daughter. Thats saying something negative about mac. 😀

[@terminal_veloster986]

eagleal3 all he said was to be a father 😂

[@terminal_veloster986]

eagleal3 he lost

[@eagleal3]

@@terminal_veloster986 Thats what iam saying

[@ektro-johnny573]

Tom just dropping diss number two, and holy fuck

[@Raphsody86]

Imo macs response was cringy. Some ok bars but I didn’t like the flow and he said some things that weren’t true. Tom never dissed macs daughter, etc. kinda felt like some of the lyrics were written by a 2nd grader lol

[@Raphsody86]

Paul Staerkel I get it. There was a couple of things I didn’t care for in Toms diss as well. I’m looking forward to seeing what happens nxt lol

[@DroptheBassForJesusSake]

They both were kinda subpar but tom macdonalds had a better flow and was just more mature mac sounded like he was immature in it. Mac can actually make good songs its just he has to put effort and it seemed he really didnt put that much effort into it.

[@nickramirezmusic]

Yooo Tom responded. Get on that. This new diss is crazy

[@lonelyphantom9115]

Let’s get it Tom. Fire back bro.

[@harrisonleslie9072]

Hahah hell yeah sskkiiiinnn dude so glad you jumped on this shit was 🤣🔥🔥🔥🔥💯 #RHEC #CREEKSQUAD

[@joshuagoins499]

Tom will kill him next round, still saying he took too much time to respond like he needed someone else to write this for him

[@sc8470]

Im getting popcorn... Ready for round two!!!

[@TecniclyAwsm]

Tom slaughtered Mac.

[@bobbib5582]

That's what I'm talkin about old school beat, old school dude put a whoopin on Tammy😂✌💖

[@michalelston568]

Exactly Bobbi Brettell

[@braidinaguon8613]

When everyone forgets that Mac use to fight in underground rap battles 🤷‍♂️

[@scuffy2357]

More experience, but still got bodied

[@RockerArtist21]

Tom came back with another diss!

[@shawnerskine6612]

Mac need to check his facts lol but now Tom gonna kill him with facts again Tom did not diss his daughter or icp I'm sorry Mac is washed up lol

[@angelinamay161]

FYI It's know that Mac had someone else write his diss. Hence the mention in Tom's final dIss, he says give them credit. #HOG

[@karoshii_x_1229]

I’m sorry but even though he might have done some “homework “, his flow is boring and the song is weak over all. I lost interest 1/4 way through. Kinda proving some of the things Tom was saying about him having trouble making a good song. Lyrics were kinda garbage. The word play left something to be desired which is exactly what Tom was saying too. I give it to Tom

[@nickwit21]

10 seconds in and I'm already laughing my ass off!

[@69himmel]

I'm not that impressed with this, it took him a whole entire week.. yea he is Canadian but lives in L.A... also tom didnt diss his daughter.. Tom was baiting mac with that 1st diss, now tom is delivering the KNOCK OUT punch in round 2. And if tom dont I'll be big disappointed.. he didnt diss icp.. he dissed mac by saying he was the biggest clown. I didnt even know mac had more than 1 song till this beef. Lol. But I feel like all his disses are comments I been reading from his fans for the last week... just saying... most of this is just calling tom a girl...

[@lloydedens1553]

He technically didn't diss his daughter. But someone using your child against you can definitely be percieved as disrespecting them. Which is why a lot of people see it as a big taboo in hip-hop. Tom has dissed icp on a podcast called faygoluvers, and has went live to do it aswell. Mac disputed things Tom said from being old, being irrelevant, going broke, being gay, having an identity crisis, etc. You can easily look up Mac's worth and see he's still a millionaire, and still does well for himself. Which makes a lot of what Tom said in his diss invalid.

[@augmentedlinguist4674]

TomMcdonald just dropped his response y'all gotta check it out

[@NotGodCod]

Trying to not be biased as im a huge fan of tom but I cant lie Mac's got some nasty bars

[@RealSimbaTv]

He did 💯🔥

[@codwhy2782]

You said nasty but you meant horrible. Because that would be better

[@meaganmartel1344]

Been waiting for this reaction let’s get itttt

[@j.scottcaudill7543]

He went old skool beat an flow on Tom

[@nikkitharrington6018]

Been waiting on your reaction.

[@Darealdirtydonkey]

Regardless Tom still got butt hurt over a tweet

[@RealSimbaTv]

💯💯

[@comaodinsson3893]

Did I miss something? If someone calls you trash and shits on your ability to do your job are you not allowed to respond? What if that same pussy back tracks and pretends he didn't? can you then call him a pussy for not standing by his original statement? Toms entire diss track was casual and clowning... Mac Lethals was emotional and teary eyed.

[@mattromberger3145]

Regardless of who you think won(both are amazing) we are the ones that are winning. True hip hop is back! No auto tune, no gimmicks or mumbling. Just fire bars from real lyricists. This is what hip hop is supposed to be. True talent from real rappers. Let the battle begin 😎

[@soulfinder7]

Yes mac won for sure. Can't wait to hear the next round. Is it gunna happen?

[@RealSimbaTv]

I hope!

[@jerredwayne8401]

Mac said it wont

[@mjj111987]

😂😂😂😂That Jack Swagger reference was perfect.

[@starrgazer9]

I don't listen to any of their music, so I can look at this objectively. Tom's initial diss track was boring and uninspired, I've had bowl movements that were more interesting. Mac's diss was far more entertaining, I especially loved that Ohio Players sample. I see people talking about "facts", so it's clear many don't understand the essence of dissing at all. It isn't about "facts". Diss tracks _can_ be factual, but they don't _have_ to be. The main goal of a diss track is to verbally annihilate your opponent, period. It doesn't matter if you're just talking smack or speaking facts... it's about the delivery and the impact. Mac Lethal: 1 Tom MacDonald: 0 If Tom responds, I hope he at least picks a better beat and comes with better verses.

[@TheRoadhammer379]

Bowel, nigga

[@michalelston568]

Well said

[@JLCra87]

The track on Mac's was so goofy, and him calling him Tammy throughout it is a clear indication that he doesn't get the comedy or satire in Tom's music. Which was the start of this entire thing, he actually felt Tom was saying white people are oppressed LOL. Mac had some hits in there, but geeze, he talks like a teenager vajayjay.... Really? Feel like I stepped into 1999 with this one.

[@kevinkarbonik2928]

Lame dated beats and pretty weak disses by Mac. Lost of BS too. And no part of the name Tom MAcDonald has David Sheldon in it. Tom wins.

[@michalelston568]

I love how the dick riding in this thread is so ignorant...Every is dissing Lethal yet can name one good thing Macdonald did in his song to make it better

[@craigdaubbeats-rapinstrume9185]

I like how Mac dissed him for blocking people on Twitter yet Mac deleted all his posts because he couldn't take the heat.

[@patgarrett982]

Mac just robbed Beasty boys beat and style.starting to sound like DAX

[@SUBI.79]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Darnellmk3]

Tom has clapped back I repeat Tom has CLAPPED BACK!!!!!

[@terrylynnlawson17]

I want to see what he's going to do

[@justinlangston228]

Tom just released his diss track response already

[@papasmurf4712]

I definitely feel Like this guy was everywhere during this rap I don’t think it was put together good at all

[@heathers787]

I was waiting on you before I watched any other’s reactions

[@emotfaculty9292]

Mac took round one but I think that's what Tom wanted. Now it's about to get interesting hopefully

[@shawnerskine6612]

Mac lost what you talking about lol

[@emotfaculty9292]

@@shawnerskine6612 Chill bro. Im with Tom too but Mac did take this round. One; Mac took way more shots at Tom, Two; mac came way more disrespectful than Tom with more bars

[@shawnerskine6612]

I beg to differ Tom came in pushing facts Mac had no facts Tom didn't dis his daughter or icp Mac took a whole week to do research and still got his facts wrong Mac had a couple of bars but they are over shadowed by his inability to present actual facts js

[@emotfaculty9292]

@@shawnerskine6612 Well yeah I agree, he took too long to reply but even though Tom is in the right for confronting Mac about him backpedaling, Mac still fired back way harder and dissed alot of shit about Tom. We'll see when Tom replys, I'm sure he will. If Tom can't win this one, he won't loose badly though

[@drifttrash37]

That's the old school rap battle Mac lethal right there HELL YES!!!

[@seanmills7255]

Giving round one to Mac based on diss content alone.

[@dylanbenson2323]

WWWOOOOWWW!!!! Damn! Even though I haven't a heard a damn thing of or even about Mac Leathal since Eminem dissed him back in the Everlast and Limp Bizkit beef days, I did NOT expect that from him. He is contradicting himself in more ways than one but this is fire. I wish he would've came at Em thus hard. That would have been a good diss battle. I hope Tom comes back HAM. This could get really good. #SimbaTv Shout to Simba for your great content. My jaw dropped the same time as yours did towards the end of the song.

[@mandyshae1979]

Apparently Tom didn't see what happened to Ja Rule after he mentioned Em's daughter....not saying this is the same but he really shouldn't have brought her up

[@RealSimbaTv]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@mandyshae1979]

@@RealSimbaTv I love your reactions...that face you made during the wrestling footage was hilarious 🤣🤣 🤣 keep up the good work ❤️

[@geegeeproductions6634]

Tom made a response and damn it's pretty good

[@G21_45]

Mac put him down for the count 1...2...3

[@berryseinfeld6546]

Wack lethal is only famous bc he was on Ellen degenerate. Mac raps fast but nothing of substance

[@dustyclements1981]

Tom MacDonald jus dropped a response

[@bigeddaboss773]

Simba dude I like tom but bro keeping it 100 mac lethal came up battle rapping never underestimate an old school OG battle rapper

[@thoughtfulldane4502]

While fast-word battle rapping can be interesting, i found toms piece to be way better in terms of rhyme, music and lyrics way better. More with less, aswell as the completely calm attitude. Cant wait to see round 2.

[@bigeddaboss773]

@@thoughtfulldane4502 I'm always down for a good beef keep it on a track just leave the family n stuff off I dont like that no matter who it is but you got two completely different generations of rappers here flow, delivery, topic of discussion but I love Tom's music listen to it all the time and listened to mac lethals stuff on and off for while I dont really like the really fast stuff it just has no flow honestly but I can get with the flow he used in that track and dude tom he just laid back let it flow like fuck it lol I just never really pictured tom battle rapping on a beef I think one if the hardest tracks I've heard tom on was this house whiteboy response he can go you gotta piss him off first but I believe if someone sparked a fire up under his ass tom could go beast mode it might be another interesting beef to watch but Tom's gotta respond dude I think hes has to

[@thoughtfulldane4502]

@@bigeddaboss773 Calling someone a bad dad is a attack on someones compitance, not the family.

[@woodlace1]

Tom macdonald dropped his 2nd diss for this. Check it out. Came out today