Did I Find Tool Storage That's Beats Milwaukee Packout?

[@731Woodworks]

▼EXPAND FOR TOOL LINKS and INFO▼ Watch Next: The Ultimate Tool Storage Wall kzbin.info/www/bejne/noe6hHqCjsmorNksi=qwcFIB9d91HY2zSR Tools in this Video: Milwaukee PACKOUT 3 Box Set - acmetools.pxf.io/21goNQ PACKOUT Drawer Boxes and Dolly - acmetools.pxf.io/MmkPMP PACKOUT Work Top - acmetools.pxf.io/0Z17xM PACKOUT Low Profile Organizer - acmetools.pxf.io/an4mxW PACKOUT Compact Organizer (what my drill and sander are in) acmetools.pxf.io/1rVLDR PACKOUT Wall Mount - acmetools.pxf.io/JzW0LR PACKOUT 3D Print Files - jonahpope.gumroad.com PACKOUT Installation Driver Insert tidd.ly/3MvFEN5 PACKOUT Sander Insert - tidd.ly/3u3ScVJ All Milwaukee PACKOUT Boxes and Accessories - acmetools.pxf.io/DK1b0a Klien ModBox Klein ModBox 3 box Set - acmetools.pxf.io/AWkNJK Klein Tool Tote - acmetools.pxf.io/QyeL4z Klein Cooler - acmetools.pxf.io/jr20Za Klein Magnetic Attachment - acmetools.pxf.io/NkPWRP Klein Hooks - acmetools.pxf.io/MmjzyN Klein Parts Bin with Lid - acmetools.pxf.io/R5aqmy Klein Side Storage with Rail - acmetools.pxf.io/NkPW4N Klein Cup Holder - acmetools.pxf.io/9gQDOQ All Klein Modbox Accessories and Toolboxes - acmetools.pxf.io/LXrxaL FLEX StackPack FLEX Stack Pack 3 Box Set - acmetools.pxf.io/5gmNgN FLEX Small Parts Organizer - acmetools.pxf.io/eKba41 FLEX Side Rail Attachment - acmetools.pxf.io/nLBg1V FLEX Front Rail Attachment - acmetools.pxf.io/Vm0gy6 FLEX Cord Hooks - acmetools.pxf.io/0Z12JO FLEX Level Holder - acmetools.pxf.io/NkmXKq All FLEX Stackpack Boxes and Accessories - acmetools.pxf.io/3eLx9K My Tool Wall OmniWall Weekend Warrior XL- amzn.to/40noKpA OmniWall Accessoires - amzn.to/47lRIJ1 Links in this comment are affiliate links to Amazon or other retailers. As an Amazon Influencer, I earn from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel so I can continue to make content like this. Some of the links used in this comment are affilate links and I may earn a commission on qualifying purchases. 📲 Never miss another tool deal. Sign up for my Tool Deals SMS Alerts - NOTE: I text out tool deals so you don’t miss any! text DEALS to 1 [phone] Be sure to add DEALS to your text to me so you get added to the proper list. You can also click this link my.community.com/731woodworks Important to add the word DEALS to the text! 🇺🇸 Join the Tubafour Nation on Patreon to get an exclusive Tubafour Nation sticker, access to exclusive member-only behind-the-scenes videos, member-only livestreams, discounts, and other cool member-only perks! www.patreon.com/731woodworks Some other useful links: Daily Tool Deals on my website: www.731woodworks.com/tool-deals Subscribe to our email Newsletter: mailchi.mp/7e44c16eefdc/731-woodworks-email-newsletter Check out our easy-to-follow woodworking plans: www.731woodworks.com/store Outlaw's Board Butter - So Good it Should be Outlawed: www.731woodworks.com/store/boardbutter

[@SrikanthAshokkumar]

Any reviews/thoughts on Dewalt's ToughSystem 2.0?

[@731Woodworks]

@@SrikanthAshokkumar I haven't tried them yet.

[@DitchTheBricks]

I dig all the different shirts you wear in your videos. Mark 16:15

[@Brian424]

The brighter color of the Klein and Milwaukee vs the FLEX makes it easier to see what's in the box in less than ideal lighting conditions. Same is true of tool bags, hunting bags, backpacks, luggage, etc. Anything like that with brighter-colored interiors helps a lot for seeing what's in there.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

I feel it's best to have the items in the container high-viz if you want to find them easy. I feel a darker or more neutral color is better for the container. A pack might be slightly different, lighter colors may let more sunlight in the pack. Though if not I would go back to dark. I keep lots of things in my hiking stuff high-viz. Normally the smaller harder to find things. Love my petzl headlight case, it's white and orange, and converts the light into a lantern!

[@randelbragg6275]

I can say from first hand experience that the packout boxes are quite tough. I wrecked my truck rolling it over and my two stacks of packout were slung through the trees. I didn’t loose the first tool. There was some damage but nothing came open.

[@Toolproof]

Yes, Flex has added wall mounts & folding shelves too. Still adding more items reminiscent of Packout, but starting to diverge a bit more with their tool pouches, etc.

[@PackerDog1]

My biggest problem with all those portable tool boxes is the handle length. I'm 6'4" and they all seem to be made for someone who is about 5'8". This means that when I'm pulling them I have to walk hunched over or the angle goes almost straight up and you look like an apprentice on the first day pulling your box. I wish that they would have something to lengthen the handles to make it more comfortable.

[@731Woodworks]

Agreed, they are kind of short for taller folks.

[@devinnelson5410]

I totally agree. I am 6'5". What I do is I got a front mount from stacksmarter and it helps keep the stack weight balanced better and doesn't make your arm hurt for the long distances

[@thetruebatman4632]

Another 6’4” guy here, man it’s very annoying. I have the new Dewalt boxes, I literally tied a handle of paracord to the toolbox handle so that when I have boxes stacked to the top they’re not digging into my awkwardly bent wrist.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

I'm 6'2" and things seem okay for me so far. Though I just got my stack higher than the bar and I wouldn't go too much higher without a strap or something as it all gets a bit wobbly. I do have a 6'4" wingspan, so it places my hand near a 6' 1" person on the hang. Have you guys considered ditching the rolling box and getting the packout dolly? Or mounting a plate to one? For anyone still reading, go check out fastcap magshims. They have changed my life and upped my game, you can even mix in playing cards to fine tune things or get the perfect offset and they hold the stack together! Seriously game changing and seriously cheap. They even got my father to tell me I do really good work and he's a perfectionist on a perpetual pursuit. It literally brought a tear to my eye. But seriously, you will have trouble fitting a single playing card in my scribe cuts, thanks to Fastcap's magshims.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Hey guys I might have found another solution. Milwuakee makes a full size dolly. It has packout attachment points and a 400lb capacity! It looks like the bar sits around 4.5-5 feet. There should be good space, it can hold levels between the boxes and the bar. I did want 4 wheels, now I want that.

[@jaimeroman2406]

I just bought two of the orange Klein boxes. I love that color orange! And my yellow and black Dewalt tools! 🤙🏾👊🏽😎

[@thescottishlion]

I use DeWalt tools, but I pack them in Milwaukee cases. And since the wood is brown, the 12 year old me feels like I'm mixing ketchup and mustard to then dipping a corn dog in it! LOL

[@stanleykachuik2589]

I think Milwaukee has a solid strategy. By letting the fanbase make all the exterior accessories. Makes for more social media attention.

[@matthewkeller4398]

Milwaukee changes their roller this past summer. You have an older one but the new roller the handle can be fully released.

[@garymiller5937]

Thanks a lot for pointing out the finer points of each system. 😊 I think the cup holder that won't spill your drink is cooler than all get out! It wouldn't make much difference to me. I always, or nearly so, do all my work in my garage. But Klein does have the greatest color in my opinion. I guess they all have ups and downs like all products do. I think I'd have to agree that Milwaukee has the best shop storage but being on a fixed income I couldn't afford any of them anyway. But you did give me some ideas of how to possibly store some things. Thanks again Matt! 😊😊😊❤❤❤

[@brandonhoffman4712]

I joined milwaukee before Klein showed up @ home depot with their boxes. I do really like how robust the milwaukee boxes are. They might be a bit more than the old soft husky rolling bags I used to buy. But those bags disintegrate in 5 years flat. I loathe external storage. It's just a way to advertise your tools to thieves when you clock out... the only external thing that caught my eye is a cord wrap. Though I don't like any I see. I just want a cord hanger, literally like a dowel to hang the cord from. I don't want to have to wrap up a cord around a box after having to wrap up the same cord that was strewn across the jobsite, that's redundant. Nor do I want to have to unwrap the whole cord from the box just to have to unwrap the cord again from my hands across the job the next morning...

[@tom.coomes]

It is no secret that I love Flex Tools. Before they released the Stack Pack system, I had a whole bunch of Packout boxes and I loved them. However, once Stack Pack came out, I bought them and sold all of my Packouts for the simple reason that I had all Flex tools and they work together much better. There are some areas where I still think Packout is better like the latching them together. An advantage Flex has is that they can connect backwards the same as forwards, which can be beneficial in some situations. As far as the new releases, Flex has come out with some wall storage, though probably not better than Packout. Loved the video, as always a very thorough review!

[@731Woodworks]

Thanks for sharing Tom!

[@SpartanX317]

The Toughbuilt Stack Techs are nice, the plastic feels strong enough to build a car with, definitely alot stronger than the plastic they use for cars. I just replaced all my Husky tool boxes and Kobalt Tool bag with most of the currently available Boxes and the tool tote. All the Dewalt and Craftsman tool boxes feel cheap and flimsy. The Flex ones are pretty cool. Toughbuilt is definitely my favorite and their hand tools are really nice too

[@thetruebatman4632]

The new Toughbuilt setup, please do one on that when you can. I’m probably a year away from needing to replace my setup but they look really cool and I’ve been very impressed with the quality and ingenuity of the tools that they’ve released.

[@frankneher9192]

I originally got involved with the Ridgid line before Milwaukee even though about building a box system and if my original system ever fails I would probably buy it again. It is far cheaper than the red box system.

[@terravarious]

Milwaukee is designed around tradesmen that actually work on jobsites, not home gamers that should probably be using a standard roll cab with drawers. Everything goes inside a box with a locking latch to keep out curious sticky fingers. The DeWalt sistem is nice, but there's no way to lock the drawers so I'm heading out this morning to pull the trigger on a Packout set... I might have to paint it yellow tho...

[@lucasanderson7866]

I don't mind Milwaukee's aftermarket products. Simply because there are SO MANY options. I can do absolutely anything I want with it. Someone has made something for everything. I don't feel like any other system has that capability, OEM or Aftermarket.

[@monteglover4133]

The Milwaukee has socket set that integrates with the PackOut system so that’s a big plus

[@thomasdesalle9183]

Would be nice if you still did some woodworking video and not just product review. Product review are good but reel making stuff is better.

[@731Woodworks]

Depends on who you ask I suppose 🤣. Thanks for the feedback.

[@PavelMikhalkov]

Last year, I accidentally dropped the biggest PACKOUT box full of power tools from 3 meters (10 ft) onto the wooden floor. Nothing broke, neither inside nor outside.

[@Paul-044]

In my opinion the Milwaukee packout set is great but needs room for improvement. But if it free yea I would take anyone of these contenders. I'm new at woodworking and these would be a game changer for me and a true blessing God bless you

[@afontana001]

Great video! It was nice to see a few different options. I currently use ridgid boxes, but am switching to Milwaukee (maybe Klein?) because the boxes detach from one another in the back of the truck. The ridgid boxes go together similar to the flex boxes, so I would watch out for that.

[@lbaker3602001]

Milwaukee, red is my fav. color.

[@TOOL_TECHNICAL]

I picked up the medium stackpack, the charger mount, the 3-battery holder, and the 41 pc impact bit set from FLEX. Let me say, I was super excited followed by disappointment to know it's awkward, annoying and the attachments for inside use of the case straight up don't work together. I'll upload a little video soon but for 150 bucks not including tools, the charger or batteries I'm kinda bummed because I thought this was the solution over red plastic

[@lucaslambert6879]

I just know whenever Milwaukee does come out with the accessories they gonna stay on top 🤙🏼

[@maizhou4640]

dewalt tough system 2.0 is probably the best, the side handles on each box and the quick attachment is by far superior

[@bigdaddy4975]

The Klein will click all the way open you just have to keep pushing

[@FixItFrench]

I love Klein man! I was so excited to see them branch out on their line of tools lately. That gorgeous orange ain’t bad either 😏

[@angertone213]

That's wild, at Home depot the ASM would get involved and you BET your ass they'd be picking your order or have 2-4 employees gather it ASAP.

[@JamesSmullins]

I've been trying to see decide on which system to go with, honestly at this point it's going to be toughbilt. They have the wall mounting system, bags that connect to the metal accessory rails along with other items and all of that attaches to their wall mount system including box to box to wall. Having a micro shop and working out on job sites I need both sides covered and it looks like toughbilt is going to fill that role a little cheaper than the others though not much cheaper. I used to in management at Lowes about twenty years ago, I'm not there because these changes in how they operate started back then and it's only gotten worse since. That is my one concern with buying toughbilt, dealing with Lowes and that's a 90 mile round trip for me if there's problems. The home depot isn't any better here and it's the same distance so it's a crap shoot either way.

[@MojoPup]

While I prefer the front handle on the Flex rolling toolbox, I think the Toughbilt accessory attachment system offers more versatility. That and I already have a lot of Toughbilt stuff

[@kijanawren-hx8li]

I have all 3 systems. Here’s some not mentioned facts. 1. The outside rails on the Milwaukee dents and bends easily if hit on the right angle, and you cant correct it back once bent. 2. If security is important to yo than go for the flex system because its less obvious in color but mainly because of the positioning of the padlock loop to secure the box. On both the Klein and Packout systems the loop is off centered making it easy to simply squeeze your hand in on the side opposite to the lock to gain limited access. Whereas with the flex there’s no front lifting handle lip to raise and the lock loop is in the center. Lastly overall the Flex in a more dense plastic and feels stable and adequate to sit on if need be. Not to say you could sit on the others, you definitely can tell the difference. Besides sitting on the surface of a Milwaukee would be anything buy comfortable in terms of emergency seating.

[@montanawhite5699]

Channel lock made a lock box system like 12 years ago. They were the first I believe

[@AlienLeader4]

When companies push to be the first to introduce new items they tend to step on thier own feet. I think that is what Milwaukee, Dewalt and Craftsman have doen with these pack out Boxes. They are now gonna go back to the drawing board and come up with some accessories. Keep up the great work Matt👽

[@p24t]

You know where they should put an accessory mount? On the front of the middle and bottom boxes. There's room on the box, (I guess the Flex is the only middle box with a front handle? that might get in the way) and when you're rolling it, something on the front won't add to the width of things that can get snagged everywhere.

[@LuminairPrime]

I agree about getting drawers instead. If you're spending this kind of money on plastic boxes, why not spend a little more to get the ability to open them when stacked.

[@nickb8755]

Thank you for reviewing these

[@genefoster8936]

You provide great reviews. Your comments and impressions are worth noting. Entering your giveaway was way too complicated. I had to watch three times to pick up the code words. Your had extra flash screens that were not code words, (*FLEX, CUSTOMIZABLE STACK PACK Bit Cases).

[@n2ocharged]

This makes me wonder if the rail side attachments of the Flex system will work with the Milwaukee Packout boxes by drilling a hole in the support and putting a bolt through with a nut on the back side of the Milwaukee box... I might try this.

[@marksasahara1115]

I def lust after the Packout System, but it's great to see everyone stepping up and creating storage/transport solutions. I have Milwaukee tools, but I really don't give a sh*t about "brand loyalty". I do have to stay within my battery platform, but everything else is up for grabs. Whatever works best. Or, maybe I'lll make my own stuff! If I could make the Makita coffee maker work on a Millwater M18 batt, I would!

[@a.i.gdallas3581]

They have adapters for that

[@djhaack9239]

Dewalt makes a nice stack system as well.

[@MikeMaldag]

I would go with Milwaukee because of the black and red color and I love the looks of the Milwaukee stuff over the others…. But that’s my opinion and preference…. Thanks for sharing and have a good day Matt….

[@scottjones9336]

Well I wasn't really watching for any words as I was looking at getting a pack out. So I watched your video. But I was still waiting on the hint hint, so for the *flex and Klein are they considered a modbox

[@ktmacgoo]

Nice video. Competition tends to raises all competitors. Flex seems to be the choice for accessory depth of selection off the shelf, agree Klein as you pointed out the best attachment system, Milwaukee because grassroots accessory community has best innovation through the community. I have a couple pcs of Milwaukee for travel with Trailer, good tough storage. Milwaukee did add a removable handle available shortly as an accessory for older units as well.

[@michaelbarbieri9871]

Great video. Love your channel. Just retired and got back into woodworking. Thank you for your time. God Bless

[@731Woodworks]

Thanks for watching!

[@mikea3552]

Great view points on all 3 storage setups and I was blown away that you are making 3 families' day by giving each of those 3 sets away! I have put in my entries, and could certainly put a set to great use, so my fingers are crossed and my calendar page is marked. Also, I bought some Milwaukee Wall mounts and I use it to hang my long handle OPE tools like my Quik-lok string trimmer, pole saw, extensions, and rubber broom attachments, as well as my M18 and M12 battery packs. Very sturdy and easy to use. Good luck to everyone!

[@rosspeterson2658]

Flex has wall mounting now in phase 2

[@dymone4894]

You really should have looked at the Ridgid boxes. When I finally decided to buy some a few months ago, I looked at them all for weeks. The Ridgid boxes are heavy and seal tight and the price was unbeatable, even compared to Ryobi, DeWalt and Kobalt. The add-ons for these boxes are nice but they are just gimmicky to me. The Ridgid boxes are on sale again and I'm on my way to pick up a few more this morning.

[@dymone4894]

@@echoshatter I can definitely see 2 or 3 of those in my future if they come out.

[@bret_Lambky]

Great review!👍🏼 On the pack out inside the case with the handle it has indentations inside for the Milwaukee fastener cases! They don’t clip in which would be nice! But the space accommodates the small container box. I really like the external adds! That the others have. Milwaukee needs to step up and make it affordable!

[@brandonhoffman4712]

For me. External add-ons are just asking for things to dissappear off the job. It's much worse in commercial construction. I wouldn't trust a tape measure or razor knife outside my boxes when I'm not there. I could maybe see a use for the magnetic bit holder, though get ready to lose bits too! Or some other small items, but the only thing I have found that interests me is an extension cord hanger. I even keep trash bags inside my tool boxes these days. They fly out of the box like a money gun meeting a stripper! I can see people who tend to setup a stationary work zone being more interested in the external stuff. They can setup and be near enough to thier boxes to make more add-ons make sense. My tools are normally centrally located 2 rooms away, where I can gather all the stuff together at the end of the day to lock up.

[@Spills51]

I'm glad you called out Lowe's and Toughbuilt for their terrible customer service. Certainly Lowe's saying there order ould be ready in an hour....still not ready 6 hours later and then giving you a general response of "STICK IT< WE DONT CARE" deserves an extra drive by next time I need something local for my shop...I'll just go to the Home Depot instead to make sure I do my part for "Every action there is a reaction"....in this case I'll be sure to give my $$ to their direct competitor.... As far as toughbuilt....I simply wont buy the brand....

[@TwilightxKnight13]

Agreed. While I find that Menards c/s is routinely the worst of the lot, Lowes is nearly as bad. Sometimes it seems worse since I shop there so infrequently it feels like every time I shop there is a bad experience. I swear by Home Depot. We have two stores and both are excellent to deal with. I only use Lowes for very specialty items that I cannot find anywhere else. For example, they still honor my Craftsman tool warranty so I know I can take a broken ratchet to them for replacement.

[@jimrosson6702]

Great video as always Matt I don’t need any storage stuff for outside of the shop but I am really interested in the Milwaukee PAC out drawer storage like you have in your shop come in very handy and in something I would look into.

[@dippitydoinit]

I'd be happy to see you compare the Bosch boxes as well. I didn't even know they made them until recently.

[@timmietimmins3780]

I think another thing about buying a system to consider is parts. You buy from a system so you know you can get replacements and replacement parts, once you put it into your workflow. I notice right away, those hydraulic (pneumatic?) struts, on the klein? I see those wearing out. Can you get more? maybe. What if your milwaukee has a part break? can you get more? absolutely, probably for at least 20 more years, minimum. That plastic hook that grabs the box on the milwaukee? I can see that going. I know my systainers do break latches. It's the first thing to go. sure is nice just ordering more. On a system, you can also scavenge parts from other worn out or broken tools. We do this a lot at work with our dewalt saw stands, because of the commonality of parts.

[@RayOchoa-w9v]

Like your shirt 👍

[@anthonysmith4072]

5” deep??! THATS A LOT!!

[@BoomBoomsWoodshop]

Just joined the Patreon community, in my 50s and just started my wood working journey. Wishing I would have started in my youth.

[@731Woodworks]

Thank you Boom Boom!

[@recyclespinning9839]

Milwaukee has the drawers and boxes that open while stacked. Thats great when working inside a customers home or apartment. I think they over did it on their latch together system , and those aluminmum corners are to bulky. I have Rigid for 10 years , durable, waiting on the drawers 🙄🥸

[@the.Original.G.Ninja.88]

Hoping you check out Bauer and update this comparison. Thanks in advance, have a great one!

[@JayReevesCLT]

Not gonna lie, I was so close to buying the toughbuilt and was hoping you had some hate they dropped the ball as well as Lowe’s . Also, watched the video twice and only 2 secret words.

[@nicholaskindred929]

Wow ! that would be pretty cool. I have been looking at a packout system to organize my shop . Flex does look great , they all do , Accessories so many options except on Milwalkee. Thank you for the video ! . Tough choice .

[@yorselrus1996]

I believe milwaukee is going to come out with a new revised packout by end of next year. If not, they're gonna lose a lot of their base. I personally only own the wall unit for my drills/impacts and the 2 & 3 drawers(non mobile)

[@danielbohannon302]

That is my biggest problem is storage it's not easy to figure out how to put stuff and where to put it at when you're in a small shop

[@WhyetD]

Good reviews lots to think about

[@phantomviewer]

You did the drop test with them empty though. Let's do them full, atleast half the rates max weight which is where most of use them

[@versus023]

have you ever done a shop organization tour ?

[@731Woodworks]

No, I haven't. I've done some shop tours, but may need to looking at one for organization

[@krisaunedi4920]

Cool vlog that you've done here. I'm a Milwaukee fan because I have all their tools and I do have to say is that I do have some Klein tools also too. So I'm sticking with the Milwaukee Packout for sure. One that I'm not going to do is go out and buy into a new storage system I think that I have to strongly agree with you on the accessory side that Milwaukee has to step up to the plate in this department for sure but overall Milwaukee has Pioneered this system right down to the tee. Now if someone is new getting into these type of storage systems then yes look at the other two brands but for me I'm not going to change because they don't make the little accessories. Keep up the great content 👏

[@anthonysmith4072]

Love that tape!

[@RattRaceCrew]

Stacktech and packout are the only ones with the money...

[@bigbob9702]

I wish they had introduced the drawer system first. I’m sick of stacking and I stacking just to get to one tool.

[@247Combat]

I feel like klein should have made the sides metal. I feel like that plastic is gonna rip off when u hang things like rear handle saws off it. The accesories have metal but it attaches plastic to plastic. I tried hanging a saw off the rail and it flexed bad with my flex saw hanging off it (no pun intended) so i returned it and went with toughbuilt. I still own alot of packout but Im really liking the tb stacktech. The fact that u can customize without drilling or permenantly attaching accessories to it is great. Also packout lids indents go into the box unlike TB where the lids are flat across inside so u can fill to the top of the lid and it will close fine. Stack pack is great and tough but attaching the boxes can sometimes be annoying but once it attaches its good and strong. Also TB rails are metal so you unlike the other boxes you can attach and detach with ease things like magnetic levels, mag lights, mag trays etc... and there will be different sized drawers even single drawers coming out very soon.

[@andybynum5365]

I hope you can get your hands on the ToughBuilt system soon. I love mine!

[@bobvilla2508]

It’s almost like they’re all made in the same factory or something

[@iamcleary]

See im a total sucked for the accessories. I do sign making classes and now losing tools at some strangers house is a biggie for me. Those side rails!!!!

[@richiejames928]

I’d get the flex based on nothing more than not liking red or orange.

[@confitz6]

left out crasftsman. Do you like that one?

[@MrJonnyjak]

Nice video! I've thought about buying a pack out system mainly for shop organization with ease of taking tools to rental property.

[@Dragonited]

I think that the StachTech is just so brand new and the supply might not be enough for the demand. There also was a issue with the wheels on the rooling box that needed to be fixed for the full release and I don't know how long that will take for that production to be ramped up.

[@audioworkbench]

The wheel issue was fixed before the first release date so it’s good to go now. I have the full StackTech line and it’s great. Packout and StackTech are the two leaders in my mind.

[@scottstarek4996]

Should check out the new toughbuilt system - looks like a strong contender that alot of people are excited about.

[@mrniusi11]

I can't believe he didn't grab some for this video

[@731Woodworks]

If you watch the video, you'll know why they aren't in it 😉

[@scottstarek4996]

​@731Woodworks ha! My bad. Your error was trying to deal with Lowes customer service. I have a Lowes, Menards and Home Depot all equa-distant from me and Lowes is always my last choice as they have the absolute WORST customer service. Hopefully you get a chance to check them out and share your thoughts with us at some point!

[@731Woodworks]

@@scottstarek4996 Agreed! Overt the years Lowe's has been terrible to deal with in Arkansas. Acme Tools told me that when they get some in they will send me a set to check out. I'll likely review them on The Outlaw Effect Channel when I get them in.

[@kamelsr]

I have a affinity for the Flex system but they all have their own advantages.

[@Cahsolotree]

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[@timmietimmins3780]

I really think it's a massive oversight not to consider systainers in these lists, simply because the value proposition is so different from the roughly interchangeable rolling box offerings. They are much lighter, much more space efficient, much easier to maneuver in tight spaces, and these days, the price differential between systainer and packout really isn't there any more, so the main downsides now are limits on the size of tool you can store (forget putting a caulking gun in a systainer M), and the fragility (Which is a real thing, don't get me wrong). My take is rather simple: if you want your tools to be organized, store them one layer deep, which means it is super valuable to have a lot of choices with regard to box height. My favorite boxes BARELY fit my tools. I have a jigsaw and my oscillating multi tool in a box with 72mm internal height (T-loc 1). Been using it for years, love it. Have both tools, blades for both tools, batteries for both tools, never gets messed up. Favorite box. To do that, you really need a line that has variance in box height. I know I can't fit my dewalt drill in a 72mm box, because I tried. Didn't work. If I had to go up to a medium sized milwaukee box, that would just undermine the entire philosophy of not putting tools on top of other tools. I do that in my layout box and it's a disaster. But I didn't. I just went one size up to a T-loc II, and I think when I expand my system, I can probably shuffle it around to get even more space efficient, now that systainer expanded their line to include the 137mm box (95mm internal), to bridge the gap between T loc I and II (72 and 124mm internal, respectively): I can drop my drill box down one size, and repurpose my drill box, probably for my router (which is currently in a T-loc I but needs more space for accessories). Systainer has this. If any of the three you looked at have it, I am not seeing it. I see a small box, take it or leave it, a medium box, take it or leave it, and a silly box with some stupid wheels on it. and I know the packout a lot, as I have had coworkers using it for years. It's just nowhere near as practical as the systainer on our jobsites. Mine act as sawhorses, workbenches, upstairs tool boxes, storage for stuff I might need at any moment like my car keys, whereas the packouts just sit in a sprawling mess on the main floor all day filling with dust.

[@histguy101]

I use Systainers and metaboxes, and lots of packout sorters

[@philipdove1705]

I hope all these rolling cart bases had a large drawer for its base cart. So I don't have to disassemble my boxes constantly

[@jliv1895]

Why no Ridgid or Dewalt? Always enjoy your videos! Thanks for the info.

[@d512295]

The boxes dropped empty I wonder how they'd fair with some tools. All the boxes seem to be very sturdy

[@christianvachon2235]

Great review! I am not sure Milwaukee is in trouble as they have a huge following, but Husky makes an excellent packout kit for half the price, and especially they have the best designed fastener/small parts case I have ever seen. I bought two. 2 levels and opens up so you get full access to both trays and it has feet on the upper tray so it stays perfectly settled on the bench. AND, bonus, it has a carrying handle that folds identical to a heavy-duty tool box. And storage takes no space as you can stack them up. Could not recommend them enough. Solved 100% of my storage problems and is easily mobile to the jobsite. Cheers!

[@blaudrachen]

Yea I use the Fasteners kit from Husky as well. it's more so i can have electrical tools and stuff in a different area than the wood shop but for organizing that stuff they are no frills and very very cheap

[@johngross9394]

I use Ridgid on the job site . I really like there organizer for the top box. The flex looks great the cost though????

[@rickengstrom6284]

Excellent video! I’d like to enter into the drawing for one of these PAC out system. The keywords are hint hint. Mod. Pack out. And Pack stack. Thank you for all your hard work! Have a Great Day.! Take care.! God Bless!! Be Safe!! Thank you Rick Engstrom

[@GWizFuller]

I believe dewalt were the first actually. Could be wrong…LoL… first I seen anyways.

[@markm921]

Good video, super informative. Don't want to be entered to win, more chances for someone who has a valid use for them! Thanks for your channel.

[@731Woodworks]

Thanks for watching!

[@Alex00257]

Can you do a budget version next? Ex. Craftsman tradestack vs kobalt stackcase vs ridgid thank you for all the content you make!

[@731Woodworks]

Excellent idea! I'll check into those!

[@JamesSmullins]

The only problem with those budget systems is they don't offer near the options for storage and accessories. None that I've looked at would be worth spending any money on for my needs. Between my small shop and my handyman business I need lots of storage for different parts and tools since one day I'm a plumber and the next I'm doing trim carpentry or electrical work or....... But that's my needs, average homeowner might be served well by those budget brands. An example is some cheap Walmart hyper tough small parts boxes I bought about two months ago. Two boxes for $13 and they interlock so you can just keep stacking them together. Clear lids and removable dividers. They came with a rubber seal that I had no hopes of being waterproof yet after bouncing around the bed of my truck the entire time and getting six inches of rain in one night they were bone dry inside and that's after sitting on their side during the rain. Not sure how long they'll last under my abuse but I'm getting more for the shop that should last.

[@joshschlief2432]

all three of these systems still cant compete with the dewalt racking system and ds carrier

[@JakeWeihe]

As a toolbox enthusiast with experience using and making review videos on all of these boxes, the biggest thing to know is that ALL of these systems have pros and cons. If a “lack of accessories” is the biggest con for Milwaukee Packout, then it’s been solved by a strong community of makers. The main reason why other companies even made accessories is because they saw the Packout community do it first. If you’re looking to get into a system and you’re jealous of aspects available on other brands like Klein's bin, cup holder, or Flex’s new wall mounts, I make my own versions of all those items . My goal isn’t to just make Packout the best, many of my items work across all the systems. My goal is instead to help toolbox users overall. Other makers like Alex from packibletool, Matt from Neattools and Devin from Stack Smarter also make high quality items that expand the capabilities of your toolboxes. At the end of the day the things we need from these tool companies is bigger, better, and more unique types of boxes as soon as possible. If their design teams are working on accessories that the community can make and bring to market faster than I think the companies are wasting time and money.

[@stacksmarter]

@jakeweihe is right. He makes great stuff. Id love to work with him on a project. I feel I make high quality items that I use onsite. If I can break it easy I don't make it for others. I make items for all the boxes and I still think everyone is chasing milwaukee.

[@vincentlafleche8203]

Im curious how you guys carry saw horses around. I'm surprised i havent seen a cart that allows carrying pairs or four saw horses together with longer 4ft levels and equipment like that. If anyone has ideas for packaging equipment like that, let me know!

[@ravenheart1439]

Hey Matt...crazy you uploaded this today, just yesterday I looked at the Milwaukee storage, was shocked as their built like a tank lol..but I'm shopping around and glad you are reviewing these...once again thank you....I went to enter to win but like everything else I'm not text savvy, dint really understand it, yes I'm a idiot...no matter never win anything any ways lol..good luck folks...

[@jay-sk7bl]

Making people rewatch this to get “keywords “ is ridiculous for more entries

[@731Woodworks]

@@jay-sk7bl giveaway is over anyway. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@thotenvin6595]

I have the ryobi box seystem, as I also use the ryobi 18v tool system

[@markconteduca2166]

Thanks for the video, great timing! Any opinions on DeWalt’s ToughSystem 2.0? On sale here in Canada this week..

[@731Woodworks]

I haven't used them too much. I do have one box that goes on top of the DeWALT dust extractor. It's well made.

[@rigopena1508]

What's your opinion on Ryobi vs these 3?

[@leeburwood3073]

I’d love to see the comparison when the makita pack out comes out soon

[@user-jh1mq2ih2u]

None come close … for a 10 dollar Diff between the new guys and tried and true .. pack out wins hand down.. now toughbuilt has some serious weight to compete but still lacking on mounting options and cold weather rigidity

[@sociopathmercenary]

I just use my box around the house to keep my tools organized. I went with the Ryobi boxes and I have no complaints. Granted, my tools and boxes are treated with care but they were plenty good enough for my use cases.

[@richardmorrison1602]

which best tiners??