Did iPadOS 18 save the iPad?!

[@wolfgangsfavourites]

You summed it up perfectly: iPad OS 18 is no reason to upgrade my M1 iPad Pro. But more than that: It is another hugely disappointing WWDC for iPad users. We get the best hardware, but the software still has significant weaknesses and there is no real improvement in sight.

[@WybremGaming]

it's still just a shitty big iPhone with big brother Mac hardware. Just get a Mac and forget about the overpriced iPad. Apple's not gonna change it cause the Appstore traps people, no adblock, subscriptions apps for everything. It's 1 giant shit store that they like to force.

[@Theinspirationalrogue]

Let’s be honest, all of these features are iPhone iOS 18 as well. Nothing actually new for the iPad this time, what a joke of the M4 iPads.

[@The_Calm_Chaos]

Exactly

[@gwvaio]

Brings more evidence to the “it’s just a blown up phone” crowd

[@shaf3006]

exactly, you can edit photos and video ? and draw on iphone, do some research before getting a gadget ,you have a smartphone but it will be dumb if the user are 😂

[@XRKC6X]

Simple answer is no…. we gonna use our M4 with 16gb ram to run “calculator”….. 😅

[@2tossitup]

Seems like we all bought one expensive Netflix machine. The new operating system for Ipad pro does nothing to put more pro in the ipad

[@TheBeatDungeon757]

That’s funny

[@krypt2k25]

The thing is you dont have a space for it in your workflow in my workflow ots fits like in every tasks i use my m2 chip to its limitations

[@yippiecalle421]

For iPads and iPad mini this update was great. For iPad Pro and Air this iPad was not that alright. This update made me switch from looking for an air and pro and made me start looking to Mac’s and iPad minis

[@Elpis22]

The soonest they said that they added the calculator for iPad I felt like it was a joke. Not something to save iPads

[@christianacosta3776]

I think that this version of iPadOS’s saving grace is Apple Intelligence. I desperately wanted to see the journal app on iPad. I also hoped for a clamshell mode and formatting of drives. That would have been 99% of my computing. But damn. I still need a laptop nearby. Apple knows exactly what they are doing.

[@PatrickRambles]

Exactly.

[@michaelgoddard4122]

Again they don’t listen to use well. File manager overhaul, better multitasking and window management (stage manager is a joke)! If they added those, definitely would have upgraded to the M4 but now, sticking with my M1

[@PatrickRambles]

Can't blame ya.

[@xemtra]

nope, i just returned my ipad pro m4

[@nygeriunprence]

Good

[@chris9384]

My M1 iPad Pro 11” is still working great! Not missing out on much. Solid buy 2 years ago!

[@PatrickRambles]

100%

[@slewthervandross773]

Yeah im only starting to notice a slowdown in Lightroom opening huge raw files from an xt5 camera, but it’s still blazing fast.

[@chris9384]

@@slewthervandross773 i use mine for basic notetaking and classroom organization. Blazing fast for me too

[@manoharmeka999]

My M2 version always eating up 95% of RAM. By the time Apple updates its Air iPads to something like 16GB by 2034, is there a way to survive with current tablets? Why does so much memory being eaten up? PS: I use Device Monitor app.

[@TechXSoftware]

I got the M1 iPad Pro too, I’ll probably get windows gaming tablet next year. It will do way more, and I will more easily be able to block ads.

[@yangxia9562]

2:42 Believe it or not, my iPhone’s Siri wakes up when you mentioned “Siri” too… 😅

[@gwvaio]

lol they really told us we didn’t need the M4 for anything. 🗣️ I NEED ALL KZbinRS WHO SAID TO WAIT FOR WWDC to do a follow up video

[@rxjtc]

You can turn off an iPhone/iPad if you have AssistiveTouch on. The Power Off button is there.

[@hhjpegg]

also with shortcuts :>

[@Whateverrandomname]

I’m selling my m4 brick that now has a calculator app where their features are coming to the iPhone calculator app lmao

[@aawheaton]

Please compare the RAM or memory management between the 8GB and 16GB of iPad Pro models in a detailed test between iPadOS 17 iPadOS 18 to determine if it is the same as before or if it is now better. In other words, does iPadOS 18 allow more RAM allocation for apps?

[@SimonLYW]

6:04 Really small point, we've been able to turn off iPads by going to Settings -> General -> Shut down

[@TheThaiLife]

Thanks for this video and sharing your thoughts. I always like your takes a lot. It looks like as the dev beta goes public, etc, there could be room for another video as features are changed and released. We appreciate all you do!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man, I appreciate your support!

[@TheThaiLife]

@@PatrickRambles Thank you for the videos, I'm just sitting here enjoying a lot of free and great content. I appreciate that. Also, I picked up your wallpaper packs, I know you started selling them a while ago but loving them. My wife acted like I gave her a Christmas present when I set the pink ones on her Mac/Ipad/Phone. She bought a new case to match it.

[@PatrickRambles]

@TheThaiLife that's so nice :)

[@Technology4Seniors]

Thanks for pointing out that the M1 chip supports Apple Intelligence

[@iscaro78]

iPadOS 18 Beta 1 installed on my iPad Pro M1 and I’m really glad I bought it when it can out years ago. I hope we will see more OS updates in the next few months/years

[@jeromederouette2922]

WWDC has made it clear that my m1 ipp has a bright future! I also have the 2018 ipp which i use every single day and tbh can barely see the difference with the m1….i was very hopeful for the ipad when the 13 m4 came with that amazing magic keyboard….but once again just marketing and nothing at all useful….hard pass

[@bryans8656]

I think I'll take a chance and install the beta on my mini 6. And it will be nice to have Siri updated, "she" always made Alexa look like a rocket scientist.

[@brunoadame4667]

I just want 3 things: - Background tasks/apps (could use control center to manage them) - Finder comes to iPad (could be a fun skit in the event) - The ability to run Mac apps (like the Mac can run iPad apps)

[@Snirucher]

Patrick! It's already up? Now that's dedication! ❤

[@PatrickRambles]

Thank you 🙌

[@KeithCole]

Any successful company has an innovator and an operations person. Apple had two visionaries, Steve and Jony Ive (Steve being the overall Innovator). Tim Cook was the op’s guy. He’s great at that and that talent has grown Apple to extreme heights. However, it’s all at the expense of innovation. That will eventually catch up with them. Steve wouldn’t have hesitated to cannibalize MacBook sales by making the iPad more like a touchscreen MacBook. He’d blend the best of both and let users decide what they needed most. Tim doesn’t have that vision or guts to do that. Apple desperately needs an innovator to compliment Tim.

[@PatrickRambles]

Very well said.

[@Carlos_Vasquez]

Stage Manager is still the same? No improvements?

[@PatrickRambles]

Don’t seem to be any changes there.

[@jesperhammarlund300]

the shutdown switch has actually been inside settings since like forever. settings - general - scroll down to the bottom.

[@PatrickRambles]

Way too many steps.

[@Vaptomwen]

I’m no developer but it took the world’s largest (?) company this long to put the iPhone calculator on the iPad as perfection ??

[@Tech4YourNeeds]

You turn on my Siri twice 😠on a serious note. It's a great video.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thank you sir 🙏🏻

[@uberacx]

The case with the lens guard stand look useful but too bad, my iPhone 15 Pro Max would heat up quite a bit so I switched to using bumpers.

[@josephmatthews1887]

I will be applying the iPadOS 18 Public Beta to my M1 11” iPadPro. I liked your review.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thank you!

[@whitecrowuk575]

Didn’t know changing icon colors is a pro feature? As to AI it’s coming to MacBook as well, nothing useful comes to iPad OS as far as professional use.

[@srobbins31]

Given the processors listed for AI, the Mini will be left behind. Will that drive a Mini 7 a little quicker?

[@PatrickRambles]

Let's hope 🤞

[@dplj4428]

I hope there will be a mini 7 even if all the chatter doesn't come to it. It is more convenient size to carry, leaving my phone locked and still be in touch.

[@mpetrides]

Nice summary! Thanks.

[@PatrickRambles]

🙏🏻

[@Elshonio]

Good overview. That solidified my decision as my old 2018 iPad Air is on its last legs. Another Air it is, there’s absolutely no reason to go for the pro model as it’s a big pretty shiny thing that is still without its purpose

[@freedomisle]

iPadOS is one large disappointment.

[@hlynngregson2333]

For you. Me its only a medium disappointment. Mainly for what they left out. What they covered was awesome and i am excited for. I would have liked revamped file system, journal on iPad and better mouse pointers. Maybe in the fall they might still add those in. Peace

[@k.vn.k]

Only you. I am happy with iPadOS.

[@kuau714]

I couldn’t agree more

[@stevenoconnor5693]

I know everybody wants the Mac os but it gut their MacBook sales almost immediately and they know it

[@Tru3Times]

I’ve been using an iPad in my daily life since 2010. I’m still cool with it . Absolutely still love iPad

[@slim56]

I honestly don’t understand all the complaints about iPad OS. I use my iPad Air A14 all the time. It works great for me and rarely use my Mac. An iPad is not a Mac and never will be. I’m going to upgrade to the M4 11 inch pro. I want the OLED display, FaceID and better speakers. Then I’ll keep it for at least 5 years.

[@esisolina]

Totally agree with you. An Apple Watch doesn’t pretend to be an iPhone, iPhone doesn’t pretend to be an iPad, iPad doesn’t pretend to be a MacBook, MacBook doesn’t pretend to be a Mac………Like yourself I enjoy using me iPad Pro 11” for what it is 😎

[@TheV1RT]

because of this, I'm considering purchasing a Macbook Air with an M3 with 16GB and 512 GB for less than an m4 iPad Pro.

[@simpromovie]

Exactly what I did! Additionally I even bought a M1 iPP which cost half the money of the M4 iPP. That combo which cost not much more than a M4 iPP beats it hands down….

[@TMC3000]

Wa gba iyi! Your head Dey there my friend. Both of you are super correct….it makes sense that way. Instead of m4 iPad, I would rather get m3 MacBook Air and m1 iPad Pro as combo…that settles it nicely

[@tmclaughlin11]

Yeah, I bought an 11” Pro M4 because the 13” is a bit unwieldy as a tablet and I have a 13” MacBook Air M2. Was hopeful WWDC would provide some more real use for it but disappointed again with just AI junk I have no intention of using. Have been contemplating the Magic Keyboard but for $300 not worth it if you have a MacBook already and I like the light-weight tablet usage of this model. The 13” isn’t that bad to hold on a couch though less comfortable and it’s too much in bed while I can hold the 11” easily one-handed or rest it on my stomach and barely feel it.

[@Sozialkompetenz]

Customization of icons on a 2K iPad. This makes me … how shall I put this without getting blocked … well maybe you get it. 😂

[@rayray2283]

iPad M4 + new keyboard + new pencil = (I’m buying a) Macbook 💻

[@whitecrowuk575]

No = iPad with keyboard and pen

[@moonbaby6134]

Think I’ll keep my 2020 iPad Pro until the new mini (hopefully) comes out.

[@dplj4428]

Face ID hasnt worked well for me. I'm beginning to wonder if I my iPad is rejecting me, or I need to avoid morning face or bedhead?

[@PatrickRambles]

😂

[@Steves_view]

So disappointing I’m depressed. I have an m4 pro love the speed and screen but seriously.

[@sjt1321]

is this iPadOS & AI is going to have in both iPad Air M2 & iPad pro M2?

[@PatrickRambles]

Any iPad with an M chip.

[@Pauloajm15]

It seems basic, but I would like to see a proper mouse pointer and the finder app managing files on the iPad. It's cool to see all this new AI stuff but for those of us waiting to see the IPAD be able to work as a laptop replacement/alternative, this AI stuff is not it. The calculator ends up being the standout feature in that regard where it should be just another feature, to make the IPAD a laptop alternative.

[@kjw-vw6xr]

is anything like a circle to search in apple intelligence?

[@mikea8294]

It appears that the Text Effects and Send Later options only appear if you are sending a message to another iPhone user. It will not work if you are sending a message to an Android user. Also, I was hoping that the email category option would be available on the iPad just like on the iPhone.

[@PatrickRambles]

I think the emeil category option will be, it just hasn’t rolled out yet.

[@andrewbalogh9868]

Does this also apply to entry level iPads?

[@PatrickRambles]

The AI will only be rolled out to M models. I think most other features of iPadOS 18 will work on any device that is still able to upgrade.

[@andrewbalogh9868]

@@PatrickRambles also I have a basic iPhone 15 model. No mention of the upgrades like that for either in software

[@PatrickRambles]

@andrewbalogh9868 it's all here www.apple.com/ios/ios-18-preview/

[@blueschildbaby]

I have installed iPad OS Beta 18 on two of my iPads. I am looking forward to using all of the Apple intelligence features as they are unveiled.

[@PatrickRambles]

You and I both 🙌

[@torleifaskedal9205]

Thanks for great content! Do you know if the "clean up handwriting" will be available for pre m1 chips like my ipad mini 6?

[@PatrickRambles]

As far as I know, only the AI features will be reserved for M chips. All the rest should work on any device that upgrades to iPadOS18

[@dplj4428]

I can do without so much, especially Chatgp etc. which to me is too quickly being adopted in spite of security and privacy concerns What I wanted was a Files app universally supported and standardized across all devices and in all apps.

[@PatrickRambles]

Files is a big one for me as well.

[@Alex-vp4ky]

Ipad (os) isnt the problem-you are. But in all reality apple sees the ipad as its intended to be. Its not meant to interface and work like a desktop. Its meant to work like a phone but with bigger legs to stretch. Apple (while it took a long time) is finally getting to the point of “what is a computer “ Many ppl who grew up in the desktop era of pc’s/familys had one shared computer-will always see a computer as a windows or mac os machine. Kids today dont see computers but rather just see what their phones can do but just need more power or bigger screens. Ipads are meant to be that. Mac ppl will always be mac ppl. But ipads are truly meant for a different crowd. Meaning to those who feel ipad os is disappointing, in short its not for you. And therefore nothing can ever _fix_ ipads because (according to apple) _nothing is wrong with it_

[@hugopineda4017]

Makes sense, but then they should stop charging Macbook Pro's prices. Pro's use actual computers. lol

[@briantmorin]

Thank you for a great video Patrick. This may sound silly, but one of the things that’s gonna make a big difference for me is the kill switch at the top of the control center. I hate having to go into settings or the button combination to turn off my iPad for when I’m traveling to my mom house so being able to turn off the iPad easier is a big plus and I too am seriously interested in the AI features particularly some of the accessibility features that have been announced before WWDC one of which is improved voice recognition because I basically control much of my work using my voice so I actually think this year was a big update for everything. It just wasn’t exactly what people wanted but I believe we will get there eventually

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks Brian. I believe AI will flip all of this upside down, within the next five years (probably sooner). I am so impressed by ChatGPT 4.o and it’s the baby version of what is to come. Insane.

[@applewatchdave]

Love the video. Has the files app not changed then?

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks! No changes so far.

[@CED.Dweller]

I’m accustomed to heartbreak from iPadOS. I walked into the M4 13 inch purchase just hoping that usual workflow and use would still work. So far, Mail has been the only weirdling in the bunch.

[@PatrickRambles]

Hopefully Mail imroves a lot once the new features roll out.

[@D4NNYF00]

Hoping we get always on display for m4 iPad Pro

[@techinrl9869]

I installed the beta on my wife’s old iPad, which she gave up after buying one of the new M4 iPad Pros. It doubles as my night time reader since it’s an 11” versus the 13” that serves as my main. I figured why not, since it’d just be sitting on a shelf. So far it’s been fairly stable with some non-working stuff, but that’s expected. I look forward to the SharePlay remote feature, since I am the extended family IT person. I’m ambivalent about AI features, but cautiously optimistic if privacy can be maintained. On the whole, what we got was what I expected. I predicted iPadOS would be ecosystem stuff plus AI and I was right.

[@PatrickRambles]

Ah a fellow family tech support 😅

[@michaelfatunase9983]

I already installed the iPad OS 18 on my M1 11 Pro and it’s surprisingly stable for a first Dev. Beta. The iPad os is still way underwhelming compared to the capacity of the memory and processors, particularly on the M series. Not sure Apple is going to fix this in the near future.

[@PatrickRambles]

You're right, it's pretty stable for a first beta.

[@techhubwiltsuk]

I will check out the beta but not until the public release and will do it on my iPad mini. Cool video buddy.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thank you

[@timiabbott]

I'm running the beta on my 15 Pro and it's pretty stable :)

[@clintonelliott340]

I currently have a 13inch iPad Pro, M2, 16 gigs, etc… not getting another high end iPad ever… rather a better mac… and next time around a lower end iPad…. Apple never wants the iPad to be able to replace a Mac… so might as well live with that.

[@youronlycow]

I still have the 2018 ipad pro 11 inch though. Generally, still rocking solid. If Id upgrade, Id consider upgrading to the M4 13 inch model. But I'm not too sure haha...

[@garydrago]

Amazing video man. I'm disappointed they didn't touch Files or streamline multitasking. What a mediocre update for such powerful new machines. I'm perfectly happy with my M1 iPad

[@zaidb4296]

i've been desperate to get my hands on an ipad and now that the air 128gb is finally out it's my chance 😩

[@commentarytalk1446]

The software additions are nice for the iPad as I already find a lot of use for my M1, so cannot complain and in fact am very happy with Smart Script for journalling, Topographical Info in Maps (for hikes), the calc is useful as I don't need another app for that and tbh Password manager/faceID are a life-saver for convenience and avoiding stress. AI looks useful in specific small tasks so again that's definitely good considering I expected Apple to gate AI to only the top tier devices so a nice surprise. That all said it's mainly all iOS and nothing specific to iPadOS apart from smart script. And it totally ignores extending the productivity of the iPad with more desktop features to help people do more productive work eg multi-tasking in office apps and so on. Which is x10 worse for anyone who got the M4 chip iPads and overpaid. My M1 was a refurb so the price I paid was good but even then I knew the M1 full power would not be put to full use because of Apple attempting to keep macbooks and ipads separate artificially. That was all expectes so overall thought it was quite good new features for ipads as they are features I will use and find beneficial for no added cost.

[@Isengardtom]

Nice video again Patrick Definitely inyterested in some of the AI features As an accountant math notes is very useful for me, especially in the notes app May check out the beta but will probably wait a bit while they smooth out the roughest bugs and glitches

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks Tom! Yes wait for the public beta at least. But I have to say, for a first beta, it's not that bad.

[@philosoaper]

I was waiting for WWDC and the iPadOS 18 showcase to give me a reason to get the new ipad...but there's just nothing there.

[@EastMontana1]

Siri being the dumbest ? You are being sooo niceeee.....

[@PatrickRambles]

Once they become sentient, I am toast.

[@steve9348]

Samsung galaxy tab way better and Microsoft surface pro right up there to

[@janenmarelia]

Not for me, Samsung and Android are at least 10 years behind if you use it for music and there still is nothing that compares to something like Procreate. So for artists it still is the best option, as usual and buying the M4 means it will last for and years years to come.

[@namucase93]

We just wanted one thing and one thing only: background refresh.

[@keirnox]

As someone that uses siri all the time I cant wait to get the new update. I have the ios18 beta and let me tell you it has a lot of bugs (as expected), I havent noticed anything that breaks the phone yet. Most bugged feature yet is the control center editing😂

[@Chitown84]

I like that they brought the iOS features to iPadOS. I prefer to use my iPad over my phone simply for the bigger screen. I don’t edit or do anything you guys do so IPadOS is perfect for me. I got the m4 solely because it was new and I wanted the oled display. I also am obsessed with iPads lol I have the 2020 pro, the m1 air, the M1 Pro and the iPad mini 6 ( my favorite) as well😅

[@rodc271]

Great video. Annoyed that Apple Intelligence is initially only US English and UK English etc. may be another year away. Hopeful other English derivatives will come sooner.

[@PatrickRambles]

Which is odd because ChatGPT speaks most if not all languages.

[@marcus0313]

A lot of people have battery drain issues on the apple discussion website. Do any of you guys have it too? Also why is no youtuber talking about it?

[@PatrickRambles]

I've taken it on two trips abroad and haven't had any issues at all.

[@marcus0313]

@@PatrickRambles Hmm that’s weird then. Lots of them have terrible drain issues. Like when they go to sleep and woke up next morning, their iPad lost more than 25% of the battery and some of them lost more than 35% overnight. Also the battery went totally flat after 4 hours of usage

[@PatrickRambles]

@@marcus0313 Wow that's crazy. I hope it's something that can be fixed by firmware for those affected.

[@marcus0313]

@@PatrickRambles Now I’m hesitating to buy it because of this🤦‍♂️😂

[@PatrickRambles]

@marcus0313 what are you using currently?

[@tallman431]

Totally agree with the video especially about upgrading to the M4 iPad Pro. I was getting tempted but thought I would wait and see what WWDC brought to the table with iPad os. I am glad I did like you said apart from the better screen ,thinner form factor and improvement in performance I can’t justify spending all that money on a new iPad when my M1 iPad pro can do exactly what the M4 can. Just a question to anybody reading this would any of you consider changing from a 2021 iPad pro to something more like the M3 Macbook Air 15”. With the new Sequoia software update and iPad not getting the Mac like software i’m just considering if I should change. 👍

[@PatrickRambles]

If you constantly find yourself wanting MacOS features, I would. iPad will bever be a Mac and whilst some use it as a primary device, most of us can't.

[@philliplanos]

Did the same thing. Added it to the iPad but not my phone lol

[@PatrickRambles]

It’s been pretty stable for a first beta.

[@janenmarelia]

This and the reactions sum it all up for me, I will upgrade my old Ipad air three very soon because finally it cannot handle logic pro very well any more, and I am looking around to see what my best choice will be. I don’t care about the system resembling a phone, if I wanted a computer I had bought one but the truth is, since my first Ipad I have never been looking back so it will do for me. Also on stage or in my little studio. And for drawing or photo retouching I prefer the touch screen and a pen far above a mouse. And all this grumbling over here like “I will stick to my M1” etc convinced me for choosing a pro M4. If the M1 is still so good now, it will last me for years to come.

[@TroubleshootLIfe]

It’s no reason to upgrade my 2020 iPad Pro :) and I was very close :) but I felt I wanted to wait until WWDC. The only major reason for these ai features has to be the ram. My 2020 has 6gb vs 8 or 16.

[@PatrickRambles]

According to Apple, the AI features will only come to models with the M chip.

[@vikasbedi82]

I just wish they had added some programming features to the iPadOS 18 so that I wouldn’t need MacBook Air every time.

[@walterdbrown]

iOS 18 is a banger. Unfortunately, they didn’t give more functional features to iPadOS 18 specifically, so once again, iPadOS has been limited by its similarities to iOS.

[@simpromovie]

Looks like I was right to buy the M1 iPP last week for half the money of the M4 iPP!

[@TheKurtLyon]

So I was waiting on DubDub to see if iPadOS was going to step up the “Pro” game, and we all know it did not. If I’m not using the upper end editing tools is the Air the make sense device? I typically keep my Mac’s & iPads 5-6 years. Thoughts y’all ?

[@PatrickRambles]

The air is great, I made a case for it in my last video. It’s got a lot of features that used to be reserved for Pro only. You could probably also score an M2 Pro at significant reduction at third party retailers or refurbished, around the same price as an Air.

[@stevenedwards2532]

I know this has been brought up a million times by people everywhere, but the only thing that will save iPad Pro for me is the ability to run MacOS on it (the only real draw for me using iPad Pro is to use creating art work using the pencil). It's great to see the new AI features coming out for MacOS, iPadOS and iOS. Hopefully it is great as Apple is making it out to be, but as people keep saying, a powerful piece of hardware doesn't mean much if you don't have powerful software. I liked your brilliant questions for Siri and her usual answers. Will the AI actually finally give us a smart Siri? We'll see...

[@marymadigan9707]

Nice one Patrick, I’m waiting for the public release like you I don’t want bugs especially with the banking app 😊

[@PatrickRambles]

I don't blame you 😂

[@marymadigan9707]

@@PatrickRambles 😂

[@dplj4428]

On the beta apple faq, they do recommend that you run on a non-critical device. Apple explicitly not assuming any liability.

[@AshChapman777]

I hope Apple release a windows version of the passwords app or a chrome extension, then i can get rid of nord pass.

[@PatrickRambles]

Apple creating a windows app. 🧐

[@AshChapman777]

@@PatrickRambles I know I’m dreaming. But they do have iCloud, Apple Music and TV on the windows store. So fingers crossed.

[@LifeonFireforGod]

To turn iPadOS around all Apple has to do is one thing: give us a proper file manager. Files is not it.

[@PatrickRambles]

Agreed. That's a big one for me too.

[@1BSDjunkie]

Apple is Lucy and you are Charlie Brown….waiting for the football to get ripped away from you! 🏈

[@yanikem6655]

This is the first update that I haven’t installed as a beta tester and have no motivation to install. We STILL don’t have TRUE live widgets suck as email that we can scroll through without having to go into, such as you can in Android. So much for the rumoured VisionOS type neuomorphic redesign, which would we get the same crappy, flat rubbish that we’ve had for ELEVEN years now…and to think they said that iOS 6 was stale.

[@sweealamak628]

I would have upgraded my M1 iPad Pro if the M4 was the only way to take advantage of new features but it looks safe for now. However, I can imagine AI features running slower on older iPads due to the slower Neural Engine (16 TOPS vs 38 TOPS) and this performance difference would become more profound with more intense inferences in the future. Once AI is widely adopted by users in our daily lives, we will feel the lag and would naturally upgrade. Could be much sooner than we think.

[@PatrickRambles]

that’s a good point, and I agree with you on the speed of things. I am using ChatGPT 4.o daily and am blown away by it. To think that this is just the kids Lego version of it is mind boggling.

[@SteveHinrichs]

Great overview, I did download the new IOS18. It is cool, but not WOWed currently. They did do some cool updates to the photo app. I like those changes. The math in notes is really cool. I am sure glad my kids learned math the old way and did not have this technology. I did notice some glitches in the predictive typing. That seems a little buggy. Overall, I agree with you. IOS18 does make it worth upgrading to the new iPad Pro.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks for sharing, Steve!

[@johnaart]

Cant even eject attached storage devices. No progress when transfering files, transfers cancel. Struggle with zip/rar files. Man ipadOS is frustating

[@marcodimario9918]

As said by someone on another KZbin channel, Apple should now DEFINITELY REMOVE the label "Pro" from the iPad line-up! iPadOS it's ridiculous and NOT pro at all. When (and IF) we'll see a TRUE file system, a TRUE multitasking and virtual memory management, a TRUE support for actual mouses and mouse pointer, a TRUE handling of external peripherals and a TRUE external monitor support, THEN and ONLY them they could stick the "Pro" label back again.

[@PatrickRambles]

So when it turns into a laptop?

[@marcodimario9918]

@@PatrickRambles Honestly, I think the iPad Pro line will disappear entirely in the near future and make way for what should have been done all along but current tech doesn’t allow yet - a MacBook with a touch screen and Apple Pencil support. That’s the product we’re all waiting for (at least the pros in certain fields). Only the ‘regular’ iPad lineup will remain. The current iPad Pro doesn’t make much sense anymore if it’s going to keep being held back by a TOY operating system.

[@666Valo777]

Huge disappointment! Wasted money on this M4 1tb. Could’ve stuck with my 2020 and would’ve still been fine. I’ll be going back to holding on to my devices longer and not get tempted by possibilities. I mean, we still cant even display our phone on the iPad like you can with the Mac. WWDC was a total joke for IPad Pro M4.

[@Sudip_Sarkar_Charles_Edwards]

I wish i had this in school and university days. Its a shame and a huge regret.

[@nathan87dlkh]

I love my ipad pro 11 inch M1. There's no reason for me to replace it.

[@fennsk]

The AI enhancements could/should make iPad Pro much more viable as a primary work device, especially for creatives and coders. My old M1 iPad Pro has been mostly for gaming & content consumption, it will likely drive many of my projects once AI & the calculator roll out.

[@PatrickRambles]

Agreed.

[@fennsk]

@@PatrickRambles also, as a longtime user of an Android phone & an iPad, I'm glad that my tablet will finally have a customizable home screen.

[@djiksuker4947]

wait so my poor ipad mini will not be able to use that AI math equation update?

[@PatrickRambles]

Yeah it will. It's just the AI stuff that's reserved for M chips.

[@4chill34s]

Always install the beta from the first day to my iPhone😅

[@PatrickRambles]

Brave man 😅

[@Bruceneuman]

If we have an M series iPad but older than a 15 Phone, Apple should find a way to piggyback the phone on the IPad to take advantage of the new AI features to come.

[@PatrickRambles]

But how would they make you upgrade to something more expensive?

[@Bruceneuman]

I have the new iPad Air so I will get some benefit of the new features. However, I plan to keep my phone at least another year or two (it is a 14). I suppose if Apple wanted to offer a generous trade-in, I might consider it. While some of the AI features look interesting I can certainly live without most of them. These are early days and I think we are going to see many more advancements coming over the next few years.

[@2cv666]

The iPad it’s still a too powerful device ,could be a laptop replacement ,but still a giant iPhone

[@mikebonviefitness]

i have the ipad pro 4th gen 9one just before the M1) and I was waiting to see if WWDC would convince me to upgrade to the M4, sadly nope, its still the same I can live without the AI stuff and I will be able to have a calculator on my ipad now woohoo, im still convinced that iPadOS will get a massive redesign to position the iPad as a viable replacement for a desktop/laptop once they fix the software