DID IT SUCK? | Torchwood [CHILDREN OF EARTH - DAY 4 REVIEW]

[@PortsTM]

The one episode that changed the course of Torchwood forever. The fact that this mini series and characters fate was so impactful that a real life shrine was erected in Cardiff Bay just makes the mind boggle

[@rhocat362]

I'm in Canada, can you please elaborate??? Thanks in advance ❤

[@PortsTM]

@@rhocat362 Google Iantos shrine and you'll see all about it

[@EEvans2011]

@@rhocat362there’s a atlas obscura article , google ‘iantos shrine’ and it should come up

[@crispysquidoftheacidcats295]

​@@rhocat362 Ianto the fictional character dies in this miniseries and there is a real shrine dedicated to him in Cardiff. Its now a landmark 😁

[@rhocat362]

@@crispysquidoftheacidcats295 yeah, I know Ianto dies; I bought Torchwood on Google play I loved it so much. Just didn't know about the shrine in Cardiff.I have since looked it up and seen the photos

[@MitchellJ04]

The Ianto shrine is still up in Cardiff Bay Btw, people still visit it as well

[@eglantinepapeau1582]

this shows how much this season shook people to the core !!! Ianto was a war hero who died protecting all the children of earth . Of course he deserves a shrine . I stopped watching the show after this season , i couldn't without Ianto , and I was too mad at Jack . In today's world, we need more Iantos to fight back against the same type of evil , to protect our kids !

[@Walkermatt3]

My favourite little detail about this episode is right at the end. Usually when Jack comes back to life he screams and gasps back into existence, but after Ianto dies it’s more like he just opens his eyes and lets out a breath. Like he didn’t want to come back this time. I think that really added to the sense of hopelessness.

[@nightowl8477]

1:14 the year 2000. As shown in Fragments, when the previous leader kills his team.

[@GreekHouseEffect]

Honestly, it is astounding how this series excels in so many aspects: the drama, the politics, the horror, the mystery. It just delivered in all aspects. If only we had got more like this from Torchwood

[@nightowl8477]

This behaviour is absolutely in-character to Jack, and is the whole point of him in Children of Earth. He has always been ultruistic (arguably since he likely thought the Doctor chose _"Killer"_ in The Parting of the Ways; since he's not around to see otherwise, nor is he told later, and he wakens to Dalek dust and travels back in time before discovering the true fate of the earth).

[@nightowl8477]

Jack has absolutely been consistently presented as cold, having learnt all the wrong lessons from the man he loves. I think they were going for Shakespearian tragedy.

[@wardjunior1450]

Jack was never top dog. He’s in torchwood 3

[@elliottnoad1270]

Iirc, there was a Doctor Who comic, where its revealed that one of the 12 orphans given to the 456, was a Time Agent. The Smith Doctor deaged a Time Agent who then fled using a broken Vortex Manipulator and ended up at the care house in 1965 on the night, the 11 other children were given to the 456. Meaning that the Smith Doctor was technically responsible for 1 of the 11 children (with Clem not getting taken) being taken.

[@blablaklingklang8311]

It’s amazing to think that when Torchwood began, Ianto was not my favourite. The Cyberwoman episode was probably a BIG reason. But just throughout the course, they developed him so well, to where he was one of my favourites! Also, cracking edit at 7:57

[@ThePrince1835]

I think the reason he follows orders in Torchwood for so long is it's the only way to stay in the organisation. And Torchwood is his best way of getting to the doctor considering their resources.

[@ByddinRhyddidCymru]

Surely jack would’ve been very happy in the 60s, the summer of love, free spirited hippies & beatlemania, he should’ve been at Woodstock having fun, not in Scotland giving children to aliens

[@dylannoneyabiz2426]

Irt Jack becoming head of torchwood 3 I always assumed it happened post the 1999 massacre- there was finally nobody left who knew he was immortal because the old boss killed them all, but I assuemd before that Jack was the necessary but unwanted team member that is better to keep close than far- and for some reason Jack couldn't just run away presumably all members used to be warned about Jack

[@mspeter97]

I find it genuinely impressive how RTD is so spot on when it comes to depicting politicians.

[@nobodyshome4633]

It’s not that hard when you understand how they operate. There are no good sides in the political spectrum… every side is corrupt and self serving. We just live under the illusion that democracy is real or worth anything.

[@Bobbymaccys]

Ianto’s death still gives me a lump in my throat.

[@odiedodieuk]

8:06 Best Malcolm Tucker cut away 😂

[@nightowl8477]

4:33 no, the point this series is making is denouncing ultruism. Jack's reasoning is absolutely 1) he doesn't care and 2) 12 kids to save the world is a fair deal. The show punishes Jack for this wrong cruel conservative attitude, asserting that all life has value, and you must find another way. Though they try that at the end of this story, their answer is still the 456's life in exchange for the children's.

[@leesmapman4764]

I visited Ianto's Shrine in 2013. It felt good being there.

[@rhocat362]

Please tell me more. I am in Canada

[@leesmapman4764]

@@rhocat362 Cardiff is (or at least was in 2013) Doctor Who town. We booked a holiday for a week, took an unofficial but brilliant tour through lots of filming locations and the visitor's center is close to the "torchwood entrance". At the bay, there's Ianto's Shrine where lots of people paid respect. Crazy time. People on the street were walking with fezes and long scarves and nobody thought that was strange.

[@rhocat362]

@@leesmapman4764 hi,I know that Dr Who and Torchwood were both filmed in Cardiff, but didn't know about the Iantto monument..pretty neat about the fez wearing though...

[@rhocat362]

You, mr. Reviewer are very young...adults sometimes go through dark times...I have..and hope you never do..and btw if you're going to sacrifice 10% of the kids, the lowest 10 makes sense...'course I'm a member of Mensa!

[@prongs0611]

Fantastic review/analysis

[@whereami2477]

One of the best episodes of anything I've ever seen to be honest.

[@Lahey3]

Orphans will do What you tell them to do

[@wardjunior1450]

Very mean with these ratings. And those criticisms weren’t even accurate.

[@artyb27]

In what world is an 8/10 and a glowing review "very mean"?

[@CryptoSeb]

" That's not the only thing Yanto swallowed ." 🫠💥‼️📢🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jjkeyboards]

Yeah I really feel that joke wasn't well placed, especially given Harry later on commends the episode for taking Ianto and Jack's relationship seriously. Cheap humor.

[@ByddinRhyddidCymru]

*Ianto