It takes alot for Joey Manu to react the way he did, he is one of the most humble and fairest players playing the game today
@sessi00003 жыл бұрын
Ashley Klein would agree. Even he was like D:
@thirstyrabbittanks2u1913 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to Sam but Sam got hit 1st tackle and Sam shut his mouth and kept playing the 80 min
@Gooooner243 жыл бұрын
@@thirstyrabbittanks2u191 Sam had a fractured eye socket, Joseph Manu suffered a several fractures in his face including cheekbone and eye socket. Two different injuries so they're not comparable. Manu's was worse. You can quit your dribble.
@leighbrannigan3193 жыл бұрын
@@thirstyrabbittanks2u191 foclor
@leighbrannigan3193 жыл бұрын
@@Gooooner24 Burgess played how many minutes Manu went off like most players would of mate I meani wouldn't like that injury but he's getting payed how much money and yes he's human
@haasteagle27503 жыл бұрын
Joey Manu is one of the best and fairest players in the NRL, when he reacts like that you know it's a cheap shot.
@jakeloughnan16493 жыл бұрын
Might be a nice bloke but that doesn't mean he knows for sure it was intentional, happens quickly
@billkumul28993 жыл бұрын
He only reacted because latrell is one of his best mates it was purely accidental
@hizzemills74803 жыл бұрын
Lol what a joke
@KingKong-ne1mr3 жыл бұрын
@@billkumul2899 yea seems legit when he didnt even go and apologize,it was a cheap dog shot
@trentlyyy59573 жыл бұрын
Exactly well said.
@allinthorne57513 жыл бұрын
In isolation you might argue that it was accidental. But the way he carried on like a bell end even after ending Joey's season lets you know where his head is. The guy just can't control his emotions.
@commentarytalk14463 жыл бұрын
He's got into niggles and fights and square-ups repeatedly. The problem is he's got this huge natural talent but his ego has not grown up/kept pace. He can't concede his mistakes or when he's in the wrong for his contribution - it's stepping up to the plate when necessary and taking responsibility and setting a GOOD PRECEDENT for everyone eg communicating when you got something wrong. Then it solves itself. Someone needs to MENTOR Latrell on his mentality. Great player and not the only one either but a big talent takes more of the lime light. I can't tell about the intention, probably reckless because he has too much ego in what he does - that's the root of it eg the above track record. For sure he wants to dominate and that's fair but the trend is there also. I hope someone mentors him because he's probably a decent bloke like 99% of people given a chance.
@jedmars26913 жыл бұрын
@@commentarytalk1446 reading to much into it. He just needs to get smarter with targeting his aggression
@commentarytalk14463 жыл бұрын
@@jedmars2691 Maybe, but everyone has their "black dog"...
@sashasg113 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sashasg113 жыл бұрын
Nothing accidental about ig imo
@solidtiger15873 жыл бұрын
Joey Manu & Justin Olam are two of the most humble & fairest down to earth players, not to mention two of the best centres in the game.
@leonschulz35343 жыл бұрын
Total agree.
@dalmarahmed84993 жыл бұрын
Well said There was some bad intent by Latrell To literally break one of your best mates face open in such a vicious and cheap manner is a stain he'll have to carry for a while
@mitullala88573 жыл бұрын
And they both don't have a pattern of hits like this, except Latrell ....
@joshuawaikali3 жыл бұрын
100%. Litrell is one of the don't-care-at-all type player I have ever seen in the history of NRL. Very sad to see Joey Manu coming to confront him as his mate with that injured face.
@jaydee72893 жыл бұрын
Duds don’t know a thing about footy to save ya lifes 💀 look what Joey manu is doing & does every damn night ! Has the souths defence line turnt & retreating THAT IS THE ONE TIME I WANT MY FULLBACK TO SHUT THAT MF PLAY DOWN! Danger man danger play equals a fuckin try for roosters & they were coming hard at souths at that point then died down right after this so sit there thinkin ya big brains when yous have 0 clue about sports gub ass bitches
@Frogstomp_actual3 жыл бұрын
It’s extremely sad watching Joey Manu go up to his friend, “why did you do this to me”. That will sit with Latrell well into his later years, more than any punch would have. It may even make Latrell think, what have i done (once the ego subsides), why do I do this.
@imalwaysright3 жыл бұрын
You can see how he betrayed and (emotionally) hurt he feels. Poor guy.
@raymondqiu82023 жыл бұрын
Funny of u to assume some of these dirty players have the slightest bit of a heart. Latrell knew exactly what he was doing hunting down a player who was slowing down and then still defending himself when joey manu came up to him and when the ref was trying to calm the situation down. He does not care at all
@leighsheppard18693 жыл бұрын
I think his vision was impaired by a near player mate, lats is high intensity but hes not out there trying to injure fellaz hes just HP so is joey, man I copped some huge head highs and gave out a couple, never intentional always timing issues throwing out a arm or trying to move your body in the line of the attacking player, these things happen, it is footy, and played at high pace, club footy is nowhere near the speed of it so it is hard to see from a tv screen or in the stand but man, its ffast
@etpastor13 жыл бұрын
@@leighsheppard1869 mate, this is spot on. This game requires a high Intensity mindset at all times, it’s hard to slow down and asses a situation - its all instinct. They need to take the bunker out of the game as this whole season has become so precious, how can you expect our players to tip toe around eggshells.
@etpastor13 жыл бұрын
@@raymondqiu8202 in saying that, the tackle is still very dangerous. Just an accident in action.
@YesImZane3 жыл бұрын
I hope the way in which Manu went up to Latrell sits with him. Went up to him with more of a desperate plea of ‘why’ rather than to start a fight.
@sessi00003 жыл бұрын
"Why did you do this to me?" from what I could read. Hope Fatrells happy with himself.
@aussiestevo88083 жыл бұрын
@@sessi0000 He's a grub
@blastermaster23833 жыл бұрын
Definitely not to fight,he was upset and wanted to know why.I felt the hit sitting on the lounge & instantly felt for Joey.I am a Rabbitoh supporter but you have to call this out for what it is.Latrell not only injured Joey & ended his season but he ended his own as well which is a damn shame because we need his passion & skill .Get well Joey.
@AkhiAsian3 жыл бұрын
made me feel sick, i love manu so much
@AkhiAsian3 жыл бұрын
Yep Yep You gotta have emotion and passion to be a true fan of any sport . Acting like a grub gets you no respect in a world of sport
@Tankos19913 жыл бұрын
Love how Hooper says he "brushed" Nofoaluma. The dude's head snapped back when he hit him with his elbow.
@georgemohetau60563 жыл бұрын
Thats a dirty play thats not a normal reaction lifing your elbow like that swinging around like that only 1 thing could of gone wrong then but because there was no permanent injury its brushed under the rug had this not of happened we wouldn't of seen that clip again
@kierancallaghan58193 жыл бұрын
He’s delusional, must be a souths fan
@jameshughes46973 жыл бұрын
@@kierancallaghan5819 he's actually a tigers fan
@TheWelterWeightWendigo3 жыл бұрын
You mean the "bony part of his forearm"😂👌🏼
@ptahhussle18363 жыл бұрын
I laughed when he said your have a fortnight off if that was you 😄
@David_Lee923 жыл бұрын
If you watch this in slow mo from all different camera angles; you could tell it was intentional. Latrell knew what he was doing... he isn't stupid for not knowing either.
@TiaPetaia3 жыл бұрын
When Corey Harawera Naera hit Jerome Hughs head high, he felt bad at impact, and when he was getting sent off he still went over to make sure he was algoods. Accidental or not, atleast check up on Joey after he KNEW his shoulder hit is head. Carried on when Joey went up to him.
@spidy2783 жыл бұрын
I agree. The fact that he carried on as if none happened is the problem.
@papaluskask9993 жыл бұрын
I agree it's not good sportsmanship
@davidstarrett83673 жыл бұрын
The guy contacted him privately and didn’t publicise it. With comments like this I don’t blame Mitchell for wanting to deal with this publically
@BOCminecraft3 жыл бұрын
@@davidstarrett8367 on the field he was still giving Joey lip after his face was munted. If latrell did that to anyone on accident he would feel at least a little bit apologetic but he just kept going at him
@christsoulja43533 жыл бұрын
@@davidstarrett8367 he was forced to do it privately(if he did) because he did jack in the moment just tried to deny it in front joey himself. Grub
@imalwaysright3 жыл бұрын
It’s a farce that Mitchell didn’t get sent off when minuscule hits have been heavily penalised. The NRL is a joke.
@angusbookallil85693 жыл бұрын
It’s that bad it actually funny
@thomasgowans38373 жыл бұрын
Nrl is weaker than piss. I agree that latrell should have been sent off. Grade 2 careless is all it was though. Definitely not grade 2-3 reckless.
@rogergreen98613 жыл бұрын
You get sent off for accidental contact, but you get to play on for reckless or intentional facial fractures so long as you're the NSW press packs' latest poster boy for the game.
@Andrew-qb1fx3 жыл бұрын
100% Roger Green, poster boy for how you shouldn't play the game
@anthonyocarroll56303 жыл бұрын
The trouble with Mitchel he too full of himself.There was no need for him to go in for the tackle Manu was covered it was just vicous hit with no remorse and the League should do something about it.I don't think Mitchel would like the treatment he Manu Its time for him to really stock of himself.he has cost the Bunnies a chance of finals Idiot
@rionaldcalamina99963 жыл бұрын
One thing I know for sure. Latrell did not make any public apology. In contrast, Manu's family asked the public to back off Latrell. No remorse even after he'd seen what he did. In contrast to Raider's Corey Harawira-Naera who immediately apologies to other Storm's players then Hughes himself. No respect, we don't need those players in NRL, a lot more players will be hurt.
@stephsingh76033 жыл бұрын
Latrell has no control at all
@leejayhero16353 жыл бұрын
first up, he doesn't know how to. he'll probably ask everyone to say sorry to him for trolling him, and he'll just play victim.
@terrioncalamina69313 жыл бұрын
@@leejayhero1635 He is one arrogant bastard. Nothing to do with being indegenous, there's a lot of indegenous players that are decent. - one is clearly not one of them.
@saintly82863 жыл бұрын
@@terrioncalamina6931 it’s indigenous
@sterlinga83073 жыл бұрын
He didn't just not apologize he threw the ball down at roosters players after scoring, the NRL holds people like Latrell up as heroes to indigenous communities then wonders why the murder and violent crime rates are so high for them. Just like how he avoided charges for illegal guns and taking camping trip during lockdown. Whilst Paul Vaughn loses his contract for having teammates he trained with earlier in the day over for a BBQ.
@whosyadaddyyt50063 жыл бұрын
Safe too say next game we see these two at it will be the best footy in decades to come
@VictorHernandez-dj8og3 жыл бұрын
Untill Mitchy flattens him again
@MideanStone3 жыл бұрын
@@VictorHernandez-dj8og Not before Radley and JWH take the cowardly dogs head off.
@raymantis6823 жыл бұрын
He musta known he hurt him, and didnt even go over and check on him !! and thats surposed to be his mate !! I just hope Joey makes a speedy recovery. Blessings and prayers to him and his whanau !!
@Flop8373 жыл бұрын
Shat up it wasn’t on purpose it was just bad timing
@rosslynnegibbons3 жыл бұрын
Manus face hadn't come up at that time, it takes a few minutes. And when Latrell was sent to the sin bin and on his way back to the field he was being FULL ON abused by the Roosters bench
@ISLANDERPOLYBOY3 жыл бұрын
Obviously it was blatantly intentional to hurt Joey , and his reaction after shows it too. 💯 Intentional You're an idiot if you think otherwise
@peacelove53703 жыл бұрын
Like the convo. It was intent to hurt. like every player would to win but that intent was reckless and careless and to me watching lateral through out his pro years definitely has an Anger probs. He’s a grub talent but he’s wasting it
@taiyonatiare79187 ай бұрын
@@Flop837I know this is very late but it wasn’t just bad timing 💀 bad timing, bad initial response and bad attitude afterwards
@JHNEEL Жыл бұрын
Im not even a roosters fan, but 10 minutes in the bin? Cmon fracturing someone’s cheekbone is surely a straight send off.
@hsimah59213 жыл бұрын
Joey is tough as nails. Repeated dirty play by Latrell over multiple seasons, no regard for sportsmanship. 6 weeks isnt enough
@markgado87823 жыл бұрын
Boohoo is all I hear... 😭
@sunnycoastfishing31323 жыл бұрын
Sam burgess played a full gf with a broken cheekbone
@miracle11363 жыл бұрын
Latrell had no remorse even though he was in the wrong, whether it was intentional or not. I'd say the same thing for any player who suffered a blow like that without the opposing player suffering from any backlash? It's bias and unfair. How was he not sent off, I'm very curious? Joey has every right to be angry, It's just a shame. I respected Mitchell Laterall, a ferocious player, but he was out of pocket there. At least shake the man's hand and own up, if it wasn't intentional? Bloody hell. You know what else does my head in, insensitive people like Mark Nicholls who laughs it off 1:10 "Settle down" after seeing what his mate did to Joey, disgusting behaviour.
@seanharris10943 жыл бұрын
Paul Kent when you go in to put a shot on it is to dominate physically.
@peterfunky86333 жыл бұрын
Damn right bro.Once committed there is no pulling back or you going to get hurt.Its not reckless it's careless but this stuff has been happening since the game began.Its not the 1st time & won't be the last as you would expect in a contact sport.Go in soft or half hearted they be running at you all day. He will cop his medicine & he has paid a heavy price missing the finals.Hope he learns.
@smee87213 жыл бұрын
@@peterfunky8633 haha 🤡
@peterfunky86333 жыл бұрын
@@smee8721 ask any player if he play the game & the chance of getting repercussions later in life & they will still play the game they love.Even players from the 70's-80's still tell you knowing what they now know they still wouldve played the game without a doubt.Watch your high shots in slow motion 100 times but the reality is flying across field to make sure the ball carrier gets tackled or don't slip a ball away back inside u have no time to think have me mates got him you trying to close it down & brace for impact & in that 1/2 a second time don't stand still.Accident yes.dog shot no.suspencion fair.He want to rein it in cause he going to rub himself out of the game.He hit someone high early next year he be out for a couple of weeks.And a high shot going over the shoulder can happen to anyone of 34 players at least a dozen times a game.There you go circus master do I get a pay rise.
@smee87213 жыл бұрын
@@peterfunky8633 so elite players paid good money still don’t know how to tackle. And that makes it ok does it. He had more than enough time to lower his body and hit him shoulder height, chest height. You did see how far he came running in from right. Can spread cream over it all you like. A dog player is a dog player, always will be
@peterfunky86333 жыл бұрын
@@smee8721 and every club has players that in the heat of battle they want to win every time.Every game,every battle.Its not for the faint hearted.Does Radley have to Change his defence technique.I seriously hope not it's perfect & he hits like a sledgehammer.But in the blink of an eye things can & will go wrong at slight errors in defence it's a heavy contact sport & mistakes will be made.You seriously think 1st graders can't tackle correctly.You dreaming mate we ain't playing tiddle winks.Rules change & coaches adapt the good coaches quicker then most & well coached players have an advantage.Its those that adapt fastest that enjoy the spoils.No-one goes out to maim another player,hurt them yes maim them no way.They all want to be t h e best & fair enough.
@patrickjohnson13093 жыл бұрын
Bring back the biff,I think that could stop Latrell carrying on the way he does.
@nahzewilliams59123 жыл бұрын
yea it normally works on those who try bully
@cjyoung73723 жыл бұрын
I love how latrell would not walk up the tunnel with JWH standing in it
@saintly82863 жыл бұрын
@@cjyoung7372 it’s jwh 🤡 and what you think he was gonna do 😂🤣😅 nothing all bark no bite
@cjyoung73723 жыл бұрын
@@saintly8286 thanks for clearing that up
@nahzewilliams59123 жыл бұрын
@@cjyoung7372 thats because bullies only prey on those who they deem weaker
@stephenharris13133 жыл бұрын
Latrell is a dog shot specialist Full stop
@jessejane22093 жыл бұрын
I don’t see you commenting on other peoples shoulder charge videos you flop
@thatgnaralooguy3 жыл бұрын
@@jessejane2209 did you go and look? That's dedication!
@Andrew-qb1fx3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Vankruze, take a look at his highlight reel jessie jane, he takes offence to being tackled by anyone and lashes out with his feet everytime, they are grub tactics
@sc0rpiex5853 жыл бұрын
100% Just look at the way he entered without arms shows nothing but an attempt to cause harm. This is not the first time he’s done this and if he doesn’t change he’ll continue to repeat the behaviour as seen throughout his gameplay. No doubt he has talent and class, but a player with such bad conduct cannot be allowed to continue being an active picture in the NRL. It’s not about being soft, it’s about not cause life and/or career ending injuries
@aronapryor66683 жыл бұрын
Best hit of the year
@tommulherin32963 жыл бұрын
100% Latrell went in with intent. Compare this with CHN's shoulder to the head hit on Jahrome Hughes the other week. Immediately he knew what he did, and went to help out Hughes with remorse. Latrell? None of that, he got straight up and wanted to fight when the Roosters players gathered around, showing no remorse and being unapologetic. Even when the referee came over he was still defending himself that he hadn't done anything wrong. Grub
@lucasparsons69333 жыл бұрын
Latrell never looked like he was looking for a fight, if anything he looked confused and concerned
@robertrush60893 жыл бұрын
How about 13 people from the other team rush you and see if you can keep your cool. Shut up you coward and keep watching from the comfort of your couch
@thetruth52772 Жыл бұрын
@lucasparsons6933 confused and concerned? What's confusing about leading with your shoulder and making contact to your opponents head? Full intent to hurt him. Nothing but a grub.
@bretloyd80973 жыл бұрын
Abso-fucking-lutely, Mitchell had him lined up for 15 metres.
@saintly82863 жыл бұрын
O-fucking-k
@thatgnaralooguy3 жыл бұрын
Timed the hit perfectly. Sniper.
@rogergreen98613 жыл бұрын
Yep. The red mist had descended and his goal was to flatten.
@4KTUNCO3 жыл бұрын
yeah for a tackle dumbass
@Mark-sj3xb2 жыл бұрын
That wa diabolical
@robleonard6443 жыл бұрын
2 broken jaws, nearly a 3rd with the kick to Luke Garners head. And people try defend him????
@zaide73313 жыл бұрын
He plays aggressively thats what makes him good if he diddnt and he was a soft pussy he wouldnt be getting the 2 or 3 trys a game like he does
@puggzz9883 жыл бұрын
@@zaide7331 only a pussy would act the way he has this season. I loved watching Latrell play but he is fast becoming a joke.
@zaide73313 жыл бұрын
@@puggzz988 Yes that is also true he has so much potential to be greater then G.I but keep playing the way he is no one will want him because hes being a dickhead
@ronanrogers41273 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t “nearly a 3rd” broken jaw, but Garner could have copped a terrible eye injury. Hyperbole won’t win an argument.
@zaide73313 жыл бұрын
@@ronanrogers4127 Exactly, Thank you
@spicyrooster65393 жыл бұрын
Worst thing about this is I’ve stuck up for Mitchell when people call him a grub and a dirty player but now when he does this and to an old team mate he played along side is meant to be a mate he can get fucked now for all I care I can’t wait to see the next game when the roosters play the rabbits he is going to have the biggest target on his head!
@raymantis6823 жыл бұрын
I agree, Latrell is a joke, no need for it, Manu is one of the most humble players in the game. + ex team mate !! I hope he gets a taste of his own medicine
@peterbulloch43283 жыл бұрын
Nah he'll pass the ball off before can get hit just like that CAT Cameron Smith did his whole career.
@georgemohetau60563 жыл бұрын
Mitchell just plays hard every1 knows this isn't a sport for the softy and sooner or later you will get injured some way only play of Mitchell I didn't like was the nofaluma incident
@YesImZane3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Such a shame. And the way he carried on when got back on the field was sad to see. He’s a brilliant player but the guy needs to be humbled
@jacklarkin78303 жыл бұрын
Fucking sook you roosters fans
@mickjslavin21093 жыл бұрын
What annoys me the most that because Robbo speaks the truth he gets fined. It’s about time the nrl and the referees start owning up and realise that when they err they should cop the criticism. The nrl are the only ones bringing the game into disrepute by their incomplete and their higher than thou attitude.
@brettannesley57413 жыл бұрын
Yet defended Radley that night when he went on a on field crime spree. Got charged with five counts in one night, sent off twice for 10 and Robbo defends him.
@mickjslavin21093 жыл бұрын
@@brettannesley5741 look at the bloody game again against the broncos, reported 4 times. 2 didn’t have issues and the other 2 others were first contact on shoulders
@brettannesley57413 жыл бұрын
@@mickjslavin2109 he copped five weeks for it. Add that to the current suspension of attacking the legs of an opponent and got himself kicked off a flight on the piss, had a fight in at a party in Byron and should have been sent off when he ripped Munsters head off against the Storm back in April. Robbo needs to pull him in before he ends up in the same position as Latrell.
@mickjslavin21093 жыл бұрын
@@brettannesley5741 mate, when you have players like Radley, Hetherington, Mitchell and the likes you know their game style is going to get them scrutinised more than any other players. The fact of the matter is that the linesman, referee and Perenara screwed up big time. You ask any of their team mates if they want to see Radley, Mitchell and Hetherington to change their style of okay. Along with their coaches I’m sure you will find that they woul want them to change. When are people going to go after the system that is causing a lot of the problems. The whole system from the match review, judiciary the bunker and the systems all need to be blown up and reconfigured asap. You mentioned Munster who also is pushing the boundaries, he is the closest thing to a grub on the field.
@deantauaa78183 жыл бұрын
Such a grub, God Bless Joey Manu, Get well Uso.
@sessi00003 жыл бұрын
It happens far too often NOT to be an accident. Blokes a complete flog.
@Will-nb8qk2 жыл бұрын
you just hate souths buddy, admit it
@StanslaMichael3 жыл бұрын
None of it matters now. Manu out with a fractured check, and Latrell out for 6 weeks. The real question is was it worth it. To say that there was no intent to hurt indicates how little you know or your just a schill. The intention to hit hard so as to not run as hard the next time is and always how you go in for a tackle mostly. Hoops is a dreamer who thinks that players go into a tackle thinking rainbows and unicorns. What mindset does he think doing the biggest hit ups and biggest hits players have when running or making a hit? Has he not watched a single game of Origin? This guy makes a living talking about Rugby League? That's the kind of answer that reminds me of the decision making of the officials that night.
@jackohere18783 жыл бұрын
Certainly was not "worth it" for Manu.
@shannonavery94493 жыл бұрын
Actually still does matter...
@StanslaMichael3 жыл бұрын
@@shannonavery9449 Which part? They both won't be playing. That's pretty much a foregone conclusion. The question they posed was "Did Latrell intentionally try to hurt Joey?" In the context of their question it doesn't matter one bit, neither player will be playing to make a grand final. However you may feel, it's not going to change the fact of what's already happened. I mean why even ask that question. The more concerning question is why did the officials not notice it at the time? Why did it take Manu to approach Mitchell twice? Speculating on something that no one but Mitchell can answer was just a waste of time that changes nothing and distracts from asking about what a terrible job the officials did. You have to wonder if it's them who are intentionally drawing away focus from the officials.
@thatgnaralooguy3 жыл бұрын
@Two Olive Trees Congregation you have problems dude.
@nigel57683 жыл бұрын
Mitchell is a grub. Nothing else to say
@tomtom27463 жыл бұрын
Best Player in the game atm
@kers225abk23 жыл бұрын
@@tomtom2746 Uhh.. Turbo?
@jacktully90893 жыл бұрын
@@tomtom2746 tommy turbo and Nathan Cleary are better
@nrlstatistics48983 жыл бұрын
@@kers225abk2 These are fax
@nrlstatistics48983 жыл бұрын
@@jacktully9089 These are fax
@michaelralston70963 жыл бұрын
You can't expect an overweight centre playing out of position to have the necessary control needed for safe fullback play, especially under manic Vlandyball speed. Two wrongs were bound to not make a right.
@ThePaulbruceweb3 жыл бұрын
That's 100% a commitment to deliver maximum force. Such actions don't happen by accident.
@Saiyan4eva3 жыл бұрын
Off course he did, Latrell dropped his shoulder right into Joey Manu's face...🤦♂️
@clairegrey-sinclair86913 жыл бұрын
Nope he was trying to make the tackle
@jackohere18783 жыл бұрын
@@clairegrey-sinclair8691 So after all the years he has played League he doesn't know not to lead with shoulder / swinging arm into an opponents head??? I guess poor Mitchell is just a slow learner -yea right.
@YourTruthIsALie3 жыл бұрын
@@jackohere1878 watch him play the race card
@robleonard6443 жыл бұрын
@@YourTruthIsALie You can bet your left one
@Saiyan4eva3 жыл бұрын
@@clairegrey-sinclair8691 Look man it was a reckless tackle & intentional this is not hating on Latrell at all cause he's one helluva player but that was a dog move & low asf & you know it...
@LanceODoherty59053 жыл бұрын
I love latrell he plays hard, but I can’t defend him here careless.
@leighsheppard18693 жыл бұрын
Not careless, just high speed, and vision impaired by near players thats it, realy no more to it, accidental shot
@zaide73313 жыл бұрын
I agree latrell is my fav player but honestly the speed he was going already leaning in there no possible way for him to not hit him so i think its accidental i do go for roosters too
@shizzynwa3 жыл бұрын
He plays hard and angry , just drop the angry.
@zaide73313 жыл бұрын
@@shizzynwa Yes very true although he wouldnt play how he does without him being angry thats what drives him
@christsoulja43533 жыл бұрын
@@leighsheppard1869 that was 100% careless he went in with a leaning shoulder coming from the side so joey couldn’t brace himself.
@SamiAmone113 жыл бұрын
Mitchell has a problem with Manu for sure and it was reckless plus no apologies to his former team mate
@peterfunky86333 жыл бұрын
Did the same thing to Gagai in state of origin.Went at him like a bull outta the gates.And he plays at club land with him.Wasnt personal he has1 speed & that's full on.Take no prisoners it's a contact sport.
@saintly82863 жыл бұрын
Dnt ya read the news he sent a msg ya 🤡
@sonnQ3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone forget the swinging arm?
@samjackson27183 жыл бұрын
It never gets brought up does it, if he missed with the shoulder he was making sure he didn't miss with the straight arm
@seanharris10943 жыл бұрын
The arm swung to cover or hide a shoulder charge
@DeftPol3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest here, that was never an attempt at a "tackle". Latrell flies in high, late and leading with the shoulder and a swinging arm INTO THE FACE of Manu. Saying he "didn't mean it" or "it was a split second decision" doesn't absolve Latrell from responsibility remotely. If I hop onto the highway in my car and start zipping in and out of lanes at 200/km per hour, and then make a split second mistake that wipes out an entire family, then if my only defence is that "I didn't mean to do it and it was just a split second mistake" the cops will rightly say that I never should have put myself and anyone else in the position to begin with. It's an extreme analogy, but it feels warranted given some of Trell's defenders don't appear to understand the issue here. The fact was Latrell created this mess by creating the danger in the situation to begin with. If he had attempted to lower his body height and wrap his arms around Manu in a LEGAL tackle then we wouldn't be having this discussion, but he didn't do that, and instead opted for a highly dangerous ILLEGAL tackle that put his opponent in hospital. It was a clear cut send off and frankly he should have got 15 weeks rather than 6.
@sashasg113 жыл бұрын
Thank you exactly
@Darrylc733 жыл бұрын
James, you have no idea full stop. As much as Dan ginnane. Your spot on again buzz.
@tedsertori92823 жыл бұрын
It WASNT intentional the shot. It was careless, wouldnt say reckless, but definitely not intentional. One other thing that I can point out about Latrell is I don't agree with him slamming the ball on the ground after he scored that try. Even if he is sorry to Manu about the shot, that might work against him. But back to my point, it was careless the shot, NOT intentional
@thatgnaralooguy3 жыл бұрын
@@tedsertori9282 a shoulder charge to the head to a guy pretty much tackled after the ball is gone. Not intentional? I think Latrell knows what he's doing.
@tedsertori92823 жыл бұрын
@@thatgnaralooguy the ball popped out after the tackle. Also the height of the shoulder wasnt high manu slipped
@ezy_brezy98493 жыл бұрын
@@thatgnaralooguy Manu is a freak of nature, one of the best centres in the game. Its not conclusive that he was "tackled", and as a fullback, Latrell's only thought was to stop Manu, no way would I say it was intentional.
@siloh74283 жыл бұрын
hope joey gets better man, can't wait to see him back in the field. 💖
@adamwilliams22533 жыл бұрын
I won't comment on his intentions. But that's a send off
@PN3D873 жыл бұрын
That’s the most sensible point anyone on here has made
@nrlstatistics48983 жыл бұрын
@@PN3D87 True that
@aussiestevo88083 жыл бұрын
Yes send off & 12 weeks suspension
@yesneo66133 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think Latrell completely lost his mind, he's too far gone if he can't even muster some remorse for poor Manu
@Memes-Daily43 жыл бұрын
Hahaha "It was absolutely reckless in every millisecond" James Hooper - 2021
@lkfishing1923 жыл бұрын
Latrell has issues with Gagai check out the heat between those two in SOO this year. Team mates not holding back cause there are underlying issues!!
@reneelouiseazzopardi20733 жыл бұрын
Great, that somebody brought this up as that's what I said to my Mum, last week. 100% agree!
@killswitchcommentary9813 жыл бұрын
That's what origin is all about mate vs mate state vs state. I remember big Arthur Beetson started a fight with his team
@4KTUNCO3 жыл бұрын
huh??? nah mate it's just a bit of light banter. calm down bud
@bigfish63373 жыл бұрын
I recon Latrell intended to put a big shot on, don't think he intended to injure manu in that way. Manu fell into it due to the tackle by gagai
@TheRandwickboy3 жыл бұрын
100%
@benoh83213 жыл бұрын
lol what a weak excuse, gagai was barely holding manu, fatrell could see manu was about to get an offload away so he tried to put a reckless shot on to make him lose the ball
@skypzproductions17653 жыл бұрын
Is Hooper watching the same incident? This is ridiculous! He meant to hurt Joey and we know that Mitchy can be a grub!
@sentientbean13 жыл бұрын
Shocker of a cheap shot.
@adamfrew66993 жыл бұрын
He is a grub and all these incidents this year have been cheap shots, now he has to live with costing the bunnies a chance at winning a premiership. I hope he does change his ways next year as he is still an exciting player to watch.
@chrisjohns60253 жыл бұрын
That was a stiff straight arm swinging hard at his head,I wouldn't even call it a tackle.
@bremCZ3 жыл бұрын
It was a shoulder to the head.
@hansoloburger23223 жыл бұрын
Next move is latrel will come out saying he’s struggling mentally from the back lash an he’s received racist messages an it’ll be poor latrel
@richardlavigne63823 жыл бұрын
I hope he gets racist messages cause deep down he’s more racist , you think he likes whites.
@hansoloburger23223 жыл бұрын
@@richardlavigne6382 I don’t know about the I hope he gets racist messages but I agree with the rest
@jedmars26913 жыл бұрын
They hated him before the incident and will after. Makes no difference
@jedmars26913 жыл бұрын
@@richardlavigne6382 you think whites like him?
@michaelblair47443 жыл бұрын
Yep. Whether he gets racially abused or not, he will somehow make himself out to be the victim. Cue the headline 'Mitchell checks into mental rehab'
@cvarikos3 жыл бұрын
Intentionally 'injure' is the one that you want to really think about ... hurt has a boundary but did Laterall try to put the guy out of the game for a lengthy period. That is very hard to prove if you just see it at the point of the tackle but he runs 30 metres, blindsides him and makes direct contact with the head.
@sashasg113 жыл бұрын
STRAIGHT TRUE .... YOUVE SAID IT. LATRELLE NEEDS TO BE OUT OF A JOB AND LOOSE HIS CONTRACT HIS SIMPL YH NOT RIGHT FOR THIS RUGBY INDUSTRY.
@aussiecowboah88253 жыл бұрын
Latrell doesn’t care about how long Manu is off for, he doesn’t care about the consequences he just wanted to hurt him and succeeded, simple as that.
@siquanwu31313 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, he lost his mind
@clairegrey-sinclair86913 жыл бұрын
He was trying to make the tackle
@YourTruthIsALie3 жыл бұрын
@@clairegrey-sinclair8691 manu was passing the ball, he could've pulled back but he dogged manu and had no remorse. F*ck him
@siquanwu31313 жыл бұрын
@@clairegrey-sinclair8691 he has prior, several times actually. And to be honest, as fullback, he didn’t have to come from 10 metres out at full speed and aimed so high. He wanted to hurt opponent, he really needs to control his anger and makes better decision, on and off field.
@jedmars26913 жыл бұрын
He'll learn. 6 weeks is more than fair.
@myziamaztairua80253 жыл бұрын
Look where he came from! He didn't even drop his body position to tackle him lower then where his shoulder ended up... 100% 6 weeks ain't long enough
@ApollyonTheBasher3 жыл бұрын
Its Latrells arm directly after the contact that shows me its intentional.
@MrK1ngi3 жыл бұрын
The way the players from both sides kinda held off from interfering between Manu & Mitchell shows how close the 2 are/were. Usually when 2 players get close like that then players start running in from all corners. Its more embarrasing from Mitchell that he shows no remorse or empathy toward the situation. He rather takes a defensive approach as if hes done nothing wrong...
@sashasg113 жыл бұрын
Coz it was deliberate he went straight for his face for goodness sakes, it wasnt necessary. Hate assault on the sly of an illegal tackle
@cjgreen95303 жыл бұрын
Henry perenRa was daydreaming that exact moment
@ronaldwhite56703 жыл бұрын
I’ve made many comments about this boys attitude for several years. Sometimes he’s been in a good environment, been positive and enjoying his football. And so were we. Other times he can wander around the field like a time bomb. I appreciate an aggressive player. But this boy cannot control this aggression. The world does not owe him any advantage on the field. And if the advantages aren’t in his favour, his attitude changes, he thinks he’s been hard done by, it doesn’t give him the right to let loose the aggression that he feels. That is…..belt someone. If this boy was Les Boyd, Mark Gyer he would have, should have been sent off for a season. Don’t get into the colour of the skin business, it’s not worth it!!!! The boy has a what about me attitude, the world owes me and I’m gonna show ‘em. Even to the point of belting his mate. He’s lost me.
@tedsertori92823 жыл бұрын
Latrell definitely has an attitude and is very agressive + passionate on the field. What I will say tho is that the shot was not with intent to HURT. It was him protecting his tryline with bodies in motion coming at him. I dont like how he slammed the ball on the ground after his try later on, but this shot was meant to stop Manu.
@adamk14903 жыл бұрын
Spot on mate..
@kers225abk23 жыл бұрын
This is classic Latrell. He wont ever get the grub out of him. Has the potential to be the next GI.. unfortunately it will never happen. I feel so bad for Joey, his season is over and he was having one hell of a season too.
@Darrylc733 жыл бұрын
Gi was humble and a great. Latral is a Grub and will be great😡😡😡
@traceykoke60162 жыл бұрын
His no way GI his full of himself very proudful
@russelluwarejnr1273 Жыл бұрын
G.I cannot be compared with latrell. G.I was a humble player who kept his cool. Buy latrell is a fiery hot head who likes to start altercations and play recklessly
@happyfrog70943 жыл бұрын
Latrell is an absolute grub!!!
@feildday83893 жыл бұрын
As a bunnies supporter I love watching Latrell play, he’s fierce. But there’s no defending him here. Dog shot! Full stop!
@Steve-gm2jl Жыл бұрын
The intelligence of James Hooper is on full display here. what a fool.
@gregorybaillie20933 жыл бұрын
I played football until I was 40. I reckon I can tell when someone lines up another player with an intention to apply maximum hurt. Watching the high angle shot (not shown here), I see Mitchell line up Manu from 25 meters away where he ran in a straight line at high speed to deliver a shoulder charge on Manu. For me that goes way beyond what I want to see on any foot ball field. Having watched Mitchell for a long time it appears to me the lad has a chip on his shoulder and is often given to childish displays of petulance and anger. He has form and he needs help, sweeping this under the carpet isn't help. There have been life bans handed out for behaviour not much, if any, worse than this incident. When I hear that the injury shouldn't be taken into account I want to vomit...all over Fittler. I wish both Joey and Latrell well.
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
Very obvious it was intentional..thats what grubs do
@IngrownToenail6986 ай бұрын
The referee in the thumbnail looks like "whats up brothers"
@tubbystorkley78963 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I´m wrong: earlier in the game, wasn´t there a clip of Latrelle narrowly avoiding a pass meant for him running at speed towards the line (during attack)?, yet he had the reflexes to avoid the pass and let it go to the outside player. It was beautiful to watch. Yet later on in the same game, he can line up an opponent from yards away, and accurately smash his shoulder into his opponents jaw during defence. Looks like intent. Mike Tyson had bad intentions. Latrelle Mitchelle has bad intentions. These athletes are what sell tickets and generate interest regardless of the consequences. It´s obvious the NRL couldn´t care less about player welfare and anything else they tell you is just bullshit.
@WELLBRAN3 жыл бұрын
How about bringing on the police to arrest him for assault?
@mattfuller73133 жыл бұрын
There is something deeply concerning about Latrell. Time after time after time after time. Getting suspended Breaking protocols Fighting with Origin coach Leaving former club on questionable terms Breaking faces
@juergenmati62882 жыл бұрын
It is. He cries racism when fans bash him for it. He's also become NRL favorite som for some reason, where he can do no wrong which just makes everyone hate him even more when he's being shoved in people faces
@jbbr-adventures8 ай бұрын
This aged very well.
@piuspalma232 Жыл бұрын
No wonder people rubbish him despite him being a star. He deserves some of the things that are happening to him.
@justyn11123 жыл бұрын
I would love to know why the NRL think they are so precious and high & mighty that they cannot be criticised, put under the microscope, scrutinised or questioned. Players get criticised and scrutinised, coaches get criticised and scrutinised, clubs get criticised and scrutinised, fans get criticised and scrutinised. So why then cannot the NRL, ref's and the bunker be criticised and scrutinised, without someone being fined for doing so? Precious little babies the lot of them.
@oscar0192 Жыл бұрын
I'll second that last comment. Latrell Mitchell is an absolute "GRUB" and when things don't go his way he throws his toys out of the cot. 👶
@jimmybob54573 жыл бұрын
Latrell needs to get in the ring with a boxer and needs to be taught a lesson thinks his top dog all the time should be embarrassed in himself
@nodissdiss2753 жыл бұрын
hes gonna hit another deep depression. he will start drinking for days with his cousins, and then he will hit his mrs. just another depressed indigineous
@saintly82863 жыл бұрын
@@nodissdiss275 what happened did mum or dad run off with a black man/woman 🤡
@Andrew-qb1fx3 жыл бұрын
He wont step into a boxing ring, it will have to be MMA, he doesn't know how to throw a punch
@nodissdiss2753 жыл бұрын
@@saintly8286 keyboard warrior
@4KTUNCO3 жыл бұрын
@@nodissdiss275 you were the one bagging out one of the strongest players in the game and disrespecting a whole race yet you're calling someone a keyboard warrior? ffs
@mitullala88573 жыл бұрын
Well said Kenty! That's spot on
@StateOfMinds3 жыл бұрын
It was a deliberate dog shot. Simple as that.
@jasonpurnell41187 ай бұрын
He was looking straight at Manus head then dropped shoulder 100% intended to shoulder Manu in the head .
@bigbopper96273 жыл бұрын
They call Latrel " Balanced" He has a chip on both shoulders
@williamgreen57399 ай бұрын
Latrell Mitchell is harboring so much RESENTMENT and HATE, he launched himself with a stiff arm shoulder to hurt and maim Joe Manu with a bone breaking illegal tackle, he never at anytime tried to wrap his arms around Joe Manu, he is a grub, and a blight on the game, we don’t want to watch this type of thuggery…
@killswitchcommentary9813 жыл бұрын
I'm hearing that JWH and Latrell had some words at the end of the game maybe both of them should get in the boxing ring for nrl all stars fight night
@nigelyorkshiremanwadeley62633 жыл бұрын
Goodbye Latrell...
@Isa_Haratayn3 жыл бұрын
@@nigelyorkshiremanwadeley6263 u mean goodbye JWH
@mswilson2104 Жыл бұрын
High tackle is a high tackle,stay away from the head,Manu was falling but,high ,wrecklace
@scenefanatic36433 жыл бұрын
I think he intentionally went for a big hit on the body but because Joey was already falling he got hit in the face.
@samsonmorrell3 жыл бұрын
Watching this as soon as I saw Latrell come into the shot I was thinking sheez he's travelling at a rate of knots somethings going to happen here then BOOM!!!
@jonjenkins3 жыл бұрын
The style of the Mitchel’s tackle was unnecessary- There was no legitimate reason for his shoulder charge
@NRLEDITES Жыл бұрын
Idk why I’m saying this but, like cmon Ofc a roosters coach and a roosters player are gonna say Latrell did that intensionaly but I have a stand,u see ik Joey is one of the most farest person u can ever see or know but it kinda looked like he ducked down then trell accidentally hit him which caused it to bursed out his cheeks but it’s fine now Joey’s fine they’re still good mates and yea that’s it
@deelighted79153 жыл бұрын
Not Intentional and should have been graded as a careless tackle... not reckless... The reactions of players and Latrell were pretty normal given what happened ..no one wanted to see Jo get hurt like that...and there was and has been some major over reaction from the media and pubic to what is a normal part of the game...if you dont like it ..go watch touch footy instead..
@sashasg113 жыл бұрын
Assault is not acceptable in any contact sport.
@Real-NE_Dreaded Жыл бұрын
Joey manu didn’t deserve it. I’m not being rude but mitchell did the wrong thing but the look on manus face going up to Latrell asking why
@killswitchcommentary9813 жыл бұрын
I don't think Latrell had intend to take Manu out of the game but Latrell Latrell had every intend to put a big shot on and he hit Manu in the head but the sad thing is everyone is talking about this shot and not how good Parramatta played on the weekend
@Rizz_edits23 жыл бұрын
I’ve all ways stuck up for latrell but after seeing him do this I’m not going to stick up for him anywhere
@Rizz_edits23 жыл бұрын
Anymore
@apec3353 жыл бұрын
Put him in a room with either... kikau Junior paulo Nelson solomona Mika sivo Justin olam That brat will get his lesson
@jimijickson46203 жыл бұрын
Manu has been sent to the hospital and Latrell only gets 10 minutes. If the refs and the bunker cant do their job then just quit.
@enlightenment62783 жыл бұрын
He needs to be banned for 1 whole season! MINIMUM, the guy is just out of control. Sure was intent to hurt and was illegal
@pietromora22973 жыл бұрын
Give me a break mate he,s a bit wayward but a season come on. There's a couple of other so called grubs in the game that no one mentions to much, but are just as bad munster cherry Evans just to name a few.
@enlightenment62783 жыл бұрын
@@pietromora2297 M8 you are entitled to your opinion, same game the guy scores a try and then heaves the ball into the face of the tackler while he was on the ground. He is off the chart agro. should have been sent off for the head shot.
@pietromora22973 жыл бұрын
@@enlightenment6278 yes you could be right but the NRL officials are puppets only doing what they are told to do. You,ve only got to look at the bunker. Trent Robinsons right if they can,t see what everyone else can they should,nt be in their, oh and on the Latrell incident, like I said I didn't say I was right it's just my point of view. And it isn't because I,m a souths supporter. If that's what happened to anyone I,d feel the same. Fine example Victor Radly against the Broncos, what a joke because he stuck it in to them he got 5 weeks, come on what a joke. But if Trent Robinson thinks it only happens to the Roosters then his kidding himself. And another fine example Jordan Rapana on report for a shoulder charge that looked a whole lot like 1 Nathan Cleary done on his return from injury but he got off with a slap on the wrist. The bunker is a farce, joke, rort what ever the case fraudulent at it's best. I think most of the time they have bets on the game, sounds crazy but not impossible. I think there should be no bunker, the ref should decide by way of the replay on a big screen they have them at most grounds 1 perso 1 decision, then he has to live with the consequences. When you start having to many decision making from different people, thats where the fraud starts, If you watch a lot of times through the games how many times have you seen the bunker come in about something that happened 3 tackles back then in the next game same thing happens nothing said. The NRL think people are stupid, if it isn't the way they want it to go they come up with some bullshit there was,nt enough evidence to change the on field decision please, they make the rules to suit the cause, because if they ain't making profit it isn't worth the rort. They would make great Politicians, Vlandys, Abdo, and Annesly. Seeya have a great finals series 👏
@enlightenment62783 жыл бұрын
@@pietromora2297 Totaly agree with everything you have stated, except the bunker is now an established part of the game as TV and replays are a fabulous part of the big show and is key to dramatizing and proveing the duditial system. I am a warriors fan so all these years I am used to Aussie teams raising their game to defeat the interlopers for national pride and all that comes with that from officials. It may be a subconcious thing that influences officials, but 1% is a massive advantage when consistently applied against 1 team in a competition over decades between teams in such an ultra competetive sport like the NRL
@4KTUNCO3 жыл бұрын
lmaoooooo this happens every month get over yourself you casual
@philipgray35703 жыл бұрын
this was a intentional shoulder charge which ended up braking a mans face so he gets exactly what he deserves
@greg49473 жыл бұрын
He'll be able to work on losing that gut now
@funderstruckdotcom3 жыл бұрын
Fatrell
@djrakx66623 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@billkumul28993 жыл бұрын
Work on yours first 😂😂
@dylanwest94793 жыл бұрын
Says the bloke behind a keyboard and screen🤔🤔😂
@billkumul28993 жыл бұрын
@@dylanwest9479 you😂😂😂😂
@boops808 ай бұрын
Manu's body fell at least half a foot in the second before the impact. Latrell wanted to hit him hard, that's for sure, but he wasn't aiming for his head.
@justdont..84.3 жыл бұрын
Thank you panel! Not sugar coating it like the channel 9 team!
@babushka9261 Жыл бұрын
JManu is the better player and man. Facts
@davewilson97383 жыл бұрын
The only aim was to hit the player. There were no arms in the tackle and he aimed at his head. On the street that is GBH, it does need serious consideration how they deal with this injury.
@ronanrogers41273 жыл бұрын
You’ve watched the slo-mo too many times. At real time he’s simply moving too fast to change the point of impact. Gagai drags Manu down, his head lowers 20cm in a fifth of a second, and Mitchell can’t adjust. It’s reckless and careless, but it’s not intentional contact with the head.
@pierrepower83432 жыл бұрын
He went in hard as he should have, it went a bit wrong and everyone knows he didn't mean to smash his face. I personally like how he stuck it up them, he didn't mean it and it's a tough game where things go wrong sometimes, no need to cry about it. I'm a dragons fan but I respect latrells winning mentality.
@freelancerconverse44133 жыл бұрын
Absolute Latrell led in with his shoulder to deliberately hurt Joey. Latrell is one of the dirtiest players in the league, you just need to watch his past games it’s there for all to see. And Wendal Sailor did the same thing, charged with his head into Richie Barnett’s face which put Richie out of the game for a while. So Wendal should keep his coked up nostrils to himself.
@raymantis6823 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with ya
@brentletord8721 Жыл бұрын
One reason why he wasn't sent off it's Latrell Mitchell one. Two the club he plays for. The bunker stuffed up and the touch judge as well.
@TheMDGMobile3 жыл бұрын
Mitchell is an A-grade grub. We saw it all in this match.
@christinestewart12473 жыл бұрын
True but still good player
@Skybar233 жыл бұрын
that was INTENTIONAL...just watch the try Latrell scored..he slams the ball down...the guy is a loose cannon
@grantpopplewell383 жыл бұрын
Mitchells a grub, its been coached into him at Souths!!! he's spent 10 weeks on the side line of 25,this year Definitely intentional He pleaded guilty!!! If he felt that it wasn't intentional, he would of pleaded not guilty!!
@jacktully90893 жыл бұрын
What do you mean he’s always been a grub
@mattpatt59513 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t deserve a NRL contract
@johnsonwithat23223 жыл бұрын
Look it was a brutal and even reckless tackle. But watching it at full speed, it didn't look like it was intentional. Latrell came in (recklessly) and tried to make a tackle. Slow it down and you see Manu falling into it as well. Now unless everybody is saying Latrell has superpowers and can predict Manu's pattern of movement or see the world in slow motion, to intentionally hurt former fellow teammate, then I see nothing but utter ignorance and recklessness. Not intentional. Just reckless.
@DeftPol3 жыл бұрын
If you watch the replay Manu only starts falling after the high contact and the fact is that even still there was nothing legal about the hit. Latrell comes in high, late and leading with the shoulder and a swinging arm. He makes zero attempt to lower his body height or wrap his arms - if he had attempted to execute something resembling an actual legal tackle, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But instead he launched his 110kg frame at full height and leading with the shoulder straight into a player's face. If this had been Union it would have been an instant red card and probably 3 months on the sideline for a hit as nasty and illegal as that.
@davidbroadbent8543 жыл бұрын
elite athlete - knew exactly what he was doing. Pathetic when people try to diminish bad behaviour.