Did Maui Create the Druun?! | Disney Film Theory

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Today J dives into the world of Disney’s Raya and the Last Dragon and Moana to try and determine if Maui stealing the Heart of Te Fiti caused the creation of the Druun in Kumandra!
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[@prestonlogan3808]

An interesting thing I didn't pick up on at first, the dragons represent the idea of Asian dragons, kind, trusting, bringing water and rain, but the druun represent western dragons, malicious, cruel, spreading like fire, leaving nothing but stone and ash.

[@etheriousnatsudragneel5835]

that was a point i was sure he was going to bring up but he didn't and i was a bit sad, but hey you had the same idea

[@SapphirePudding]

Did not notice that either! Glad I found your comment!

[@vcombs4276]

Cool observation!

[@LXW-Arts]

European dragons are badass boiiii

[@Nemo_Anom]

if you think about it, you realize that Asian dragons are abstract personifications of rivers.

[@writteninthestars02]

J, I think at this point you and Ben could say "Dumbledore is actually Snape's father" and I would believe you lol

[@Lytbringr0]

He is?!?

[@chelseyaustin6015]

guess we know which conspiracy video we will be watching next week

[@writteninthestars02]

@@Lytbringr0 If J and Ben decide he is then yes

[@edhurst9420]

Whuuaaaatt

[@jessicar2490]

Hahahaha

[@thedanishcatgirl3205]

Isaac’s actually has a theory on this topic. In it he theorized that Te fiti only removed the darkness in the ocean and that the darkness on land evolved to work faster and be more destructive. But in doing so it lost it’s ability to travel across water

[@jsb8261]

I would personally love for someone to create a tentative timeline for all of Disney's animated films (within reason) just for the fun of it.

[@paigelarson9279]

So, the pixar theory? Or do you mean not just the pixar ones?

[@jsb8261]

@@paigelarson9279 probably should have specified, the non-pixar ones.

[@tonyahrouda5359]

Like a Disney Theory.

[@vaguewig3411]

I'm making a story about 5 Disney movies coming together (Frozen 2, Encanto, Tangled, Moana, and Raya and the Last Dragon.) My goal is to make it less light hearted and have more of a serious tone (kind of like infinity war) but it's quite difficult given that these characters have never been shown that way.

[@justinehercthehuman]

Anyone ever noticed that the stone that saved all humanity had all the dragons' powers? It glowed, it spread mist/fog, it caused rain, and lastly it transformed stone back to their true selves.

[@emeraldemperor2601]

but was it a really good swimmer?

[@sonofthesea9184]

Yeah of course it did cause it was made from the combined powers of the dragon siblings. The stone IS literally the combined dragon's powers.

[@Drux.i]

That was kind of the point, dear.

[@kingdragon3122]

They literally said that. In the movie.

[@cherylpold6758]

But does it swim?

[@patriciaorellana6469]

If Te Fiti made a golden flower, and is a goddess of life, then COULD IT BE POSSIBLE, the flower in Tangle was meant to be a blessing/miracle for Mother Gothel but she ended up abusing it

[@MrLaxinator]

The king abused it first.

[@johnkont93]

@@MrLaxinator more or less yes he had to .but to save his wife's life. Not to prolong his own.

[@serenityfortune]

This would also coincide with Ben and Jay's theory on Gothel being Meg from Hercules. After Hercules died, he lost his mortal form and became a god (like in the myth), and because Meg wanted to be with him, Te Fiti gave her the flower, but over the years, Meg changed, became worse and corrupted. And Hercules left her. And that's where her distrust and hatred of men came from, and now she was just a bitter woman who kidnapped Rapunzel.

[@hamzasajidbaksh1740]

And later on te fiti gave a family in Columbia the Golden candle and helped them

[@ttc_acronym]

@@hamzasajidbaksh1740 And then the grandmother abused THAT power, blah blah blah realized years later that she did yata yata yata you get it (probably)

[@jdfico]

I think I'd also like to point out that if this whole timeline is accurate, then the original cause (maui stealing the heart) could be looked at as a breach of trust, and maybe why trust was so important in the "cure"

[@_tiaaa._2]

This is really interesting. I think it’s possible. We’ve already established that all the movies are connected. (Twitter has probably made millions of druuns haha)

[@cyroborg]

Here’s a thought: perhaps the Druun exist as part of the universal balance. Te Fiti and Te Ka are complete opposites. The dragons and the Druun are complete opposites. Everything is about finding balance. Moana is seeking balance in her life (desire to travel and explore versus staying on the island and stepping up as the new Chieftaness). Rays is trying to bring her world back to balance (everyone working together, not opposing one another or seeking to dominate the others). The Druun exist because they have to, to keep the universe in balance.

[@genesisofthebetween]

Just something I noticed: it’s pretty much canon that Tangled and Frozen take place in the same universe. Maybe, just maybe, the salamander, Gale, the stone giants, the water horse thing I forget the name of (if it even has one) work the same way as the Sundrop Flower (and by extension the Moonstone Opal from Tangled: The Series/Rapunzel’s Tangled Adventure). Thoughts?

[@gigikju9934]

This may have been just a reference to the theory, but in Olaf presents, in the Tangled episode, he said “this story is about a personal friend of mine” …suspicious…

[@vcombs4276]

It's not "pretty much canon", it IS canon. Rapunzel is seen walking into Arendell in the first movie. It's implied that she rules Corona at the same time Elsa is ruling Arendell. Her visits as a diplomat would explain why loaf would mention knowing her-- because he HAD met her.

[@Tytoalba777]

While this would be a really convincing theory, there's one major problem with this (at least for me): Moana actually takes place on Earth (well, Earth but Magical), in the Pacific. It's meant to be a mythologized telling of an actual event in Polynesian History (where people just stopped exploring for a thousand years, for some reason). Kumandra isn't on Earth, but is a world based off of (South-)East Asian culture. The Encanto-Tangled connection is interesting though.

[@vermiciousknid2456]

Maybe it's like "Once upon a time" and Motu Nui and Kumandra exist in a different universe where magic exists?

[@plato360]

I don't think I'd put too much stock in Raya saying it was paradise. She also thought Sisu was the uber-dragon that beat the Druun single handed when it turns out she was just the one that "turned it in". Where there are enough people to make 2+ groups, there's gonna be some discord.

[@heathertoomey7068]

You convinced me that Te Feti created the healing flower in Tangled! I wasn't convinced of your other theory until I thought of something you didn't mention: Te Fiti was a goddess of creation. When she became Te Ka, she became a goddess of destruction who could CREATE things that destroy. So she could have created the Drune while she was Te Ka. Maybe Drune turned people to stone in hopes that when all the people were gone, Maui would return the heart, since he stole it for them. Or maybe Drune froze people so they could see if any of the people they froze had her heart, so they could bring it back. Then I wonder why did she create dragons for one location and just let Maui help another? Well, Maui wasn't turned into a demi-god to help the people in Moana, but to save his life. Once he existed, the gods and goddesses probably wanted to let him have a job to feel fulfilled, so they let him do the work the dragons would have done in that location. Btw, I think the water disappeared when Sisu died because she was a water dragon. (Maybe that's why the other dragons chose her! They knew nobody would survive without her water powers!)

[@johnkont93]

However in the tangled adventures I think the flower is the sun stone turned to a flower that later was absorbed by rapunzel as a baby .

[@LooksByNaheemah]

Video Ideas: Who is Antonio’s monster? - Sorting Encanto characters into Hogwarts Houses - Some videos about Seeing Red

[@samurexatlas7373]

So, about the Druun stopping the water, that's actually the death of Sisu, the last Dragon. The Dragons brought Water to the world, with Sisu gone gone there's no more Dragons, so there's no more flowing water.

[@Lytbringr0]

Would this mean Dragons came first? You can't really have islands if there was no water.

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@Lytbringr0 Yes, it would. In Raya the Water is directly linked to the Dragons, but in Moana Water is it's own thing, possibly the Dragons are Asian deities while Te Fiti is separate entirely, like Christianity's god and Egypt's gods.

[@ASlapOfAFish]

@@Lytbringr0 simple answer the movies are in no way connected. They need step Ladders with the amount of reaching he is doing to try and make this theory work. Just because it's Disney it doesn't mean every movie is connected. Just enjoy the animation for what they're... 👍👍👍

[@FireStrikerShadow]

@@ASlapOfAFish ok that is simpler but it's no fun, like the Pixar theory, they're probably not connected but fun when we see how it would fit together if they where

[@anna.owo.]

Raya says it was a paradise because she never lived back then, humans were, are and always will be selfish, mean and destructive. Raya is romanticising the past like it is a fairy tale but in reality, people back then were not too different from people in her era.

[@juliegibson-2020]

Love how y'all compare and contrast the Disney movies! 😁 It does make sense in a way. There are so many of their stories that you can see tie to another one. Love these videos - so much fun!

[@carolinedisalvatore9768]

Encanto was great and everything but it’s good to see Raya still getting some love and attention

[@koedebertha2417]

Pedro sacrificing himself definitely awakened his dragon blood within and that became the candle. It is all connected!!!

[@ismaeo1]

Which makes abuelo Pedro ... a dovahkiin! MIND BLOWN

[@justinehercthehuman]

I still hate that Con-Baby. Writers were like "ok what's a hit these days?" And then thought of Boss Baby and then though "what if a baby that can do parkour, martial arts, and pickpocketing?" And then was like troubled of it being unrealistic and then they said "MONKEYS!" 🤦‍♂️

[@lucyandecember2843]

I love this theory! I feel like it gives a possible explenation to certain elements in the movie i found a bit too vauge. It'd be cool to see that bigger disney theory involving tangled and encanto, like a: all the revival era disney movies share one universe kinda theory lol

[@samurexatlas7373]

7:29 The face of a man recreating a modernized Disney theory, up to date with Encanto.

[@writteninthestars02]

I laughed so hard at his face. I need it in GIF form

[@ithinkihadeight]

I've said it before and I'll say it again this movie would have been much better off if it had been a series. They created such a vibrant world and interesting characters and then gave the audience little to no time to get to know any of it. If you made it into a series it could have been the next Avatar: The Last Airbender.

[@AHufflepuffAndASwiftie]

Well, thank you, guys . . . Now, I have the 'You're welcome' song stuck in my head!! 😅

[@Vengong]

Another interesting thing is te ka, she has PURPLE Lightning, just like the Druuns

[@chrinaboehler5609]

I found raya to be incredibly underrated, I loved the execution, almost like a comic book. I'm also a total daddy's girl so anything with a father daughter relationship gets me. This theory is fun and solid! Never would have dreamt this up

[@wokenlunatic2849]

Water, Fire, Earth and Ice (because of Frozen) all we need now is Wind and Disney just got there version of Avatar The Last Airbender (I can’t remember if there a Disney film that got wind power)

[@Kahtisemo]

Wasn't the wind also an entity in Frozen II? I though Elsa was like a 5th Element or something. Or do you mean how Ocean is an entity in Moana and Ice chose Elsa as a vessel and so forth? Because if you mean across other movies, Pocahontas? I mean, we never really see it used as a power but it seems to be a sentient entity of sorts Pocahontas is friends with and even other people say her mother was the same way. And it tends to ramp up at important moments like it's helping or trying to say something to those who will listen.

[@Hendricus56]

7:28 Seems like it is time for another Disneyverse episode, connecting all newer Disney movies

[@morganwarner5181]

I live for the onscreen realization that maybe these movies are all connected. Great video

[@kashveltri5092]

7:28: J's realization of a locked away memory of the Disneyverse theory returning.

[@MatsonKey]

Every time he mentions Tangled's flower without mentioning the series I get a little sadder

[@phoebegilliland8897]

They really need to have a watch party for all three seasons.

[@mathieuleader8601]

speaking of Maui does anybody else think that Félix Madrigal is a descendant of Maui with the animal communication actually being from Antonio's paternal side

[@writteninthestars02]

I had not thought that but I like it

[@ashley.8570]

Yass more Raya stuff. Raya and the Last Dragon is my ultimate favourite Disney movie, it's SO good! Anyone else ship Raya and Namaari?

[@thegreatfusili4673]

Not quite as bad as Harry x Voldemort, but it's up there.

[@berengustav7714]

Someone else says it!!

[@KelseyBurns3]

@@thegreatfusili4673 THATS A THING!?!?!?!?!?!

[@filipapinto99]

What can we say except we're welcome... for yet another Disney Theory

[@ChimeratAlpha]

This is the only place I've ever heard the term "golden candle" for the Encanto "miracle".

[@ashdominus28]

I’ve been loving the content lately!

[@joshuaquinn1215]

I love the idea of these movies working so well together! But I don't think this tie was intended, though it does work really well. My next question though is, where is Kumandra then? If Tafiti is able to create Druun in the Pacific and in Kumandra, I would imagine they have to be on the same plane of existence.

[@lordofninjas1]

Raya seems to be based on Southeastern Asia, so it would probably be somewhere around like Malaysia or Indonesia, whereas Moto Nui (Moana's Island, I think I have the Island name spelled right) is somewhere in the Pacific, my best guess being somewhere around either Australia and New Zealand or Hawaii.

[@elvishpresley9692]

Ben for Kvothe!🧙🏻‍♂️🗡 J for Elodin!🧙🏻‍♂️🗡

[@TheSpoegefugl]

Gotta be honest, I find theories to be more believable when there are more good correlations and less "I just want this to be true"-energy about them

[@ThatOneLadyOverHere]

100% want a full Disney Animated Studios Theory! ...wait. That's a lot of movies.

[@londoncrotty560]

J's face when he realizes that he's slipping down the slope of a huge connected Disney Theory.

[@flamarianchief164]

I love how he's just throwing in the connections to Encantado and Tangled because they are much harder to connect solid evidence to.

[@kittyfloof580]

7:28 "here you can witness the rare event of a theorist's brain imploding"

[@DessMelissa]

Can we have The Princess-verse theory? I am so curious show you guys will actually connect them all ESPECIALLY after this video!

[@jacintacapelety9600]

Okay but could someone please explain to me why people petrified by the druun assume a specific pose? I just wanna know what the pose is about!

[@lovisabengtsson9200]

tell me when you've found out

[@redclover8387]

at 7:28 when everything is fitting together to perfectly to be a coincidence and ur so mind blown u have no words

[@Legopandaproductions799]

J, had a eureka moment and thought of a Pixar theory when he mentioned the shapeshifting aspects of the dragons

[@fourcatsandagarden]

if Tangled is in this continuity you're creating, then Frozen is, too. And I seem to recall a lot of magic in Frozen as well.

[@LooksByNaheemah]

Glad to see Raya and the Last Dragon theories

[@kevkevplays5662]

7:29 I present to you the moment the Disney power theory was born, like the Pixar theory but Disney and mysterious power sources

[@JJ-ry8zl]

7:30 it was at this moment a new theory was born… the DISNEY THEORY

[@DAnimetion2JustDan]

A theory I want to see is if all characters with powers got their powers from Tahiti. Since repunzel, Elsa, and the people from Echanto got their powers from a magical golden object. I wonder if it’s the same with the incredibles. Cuz for the incredibles they never really explained how they got their powers other then a theory that the government gave it to them. Plus could Big hero 6 be the future of the incredibles where you can literally make powers with technology. Creating portals, running at super speed, breathing fire etc

[@detectivealex12]

7:14 - 7:29 You've heard of The Pixar Theory. Now get read for The Disney Theory

[@tbrennan100]

I thought the title said "drum" at first, I thought that was oddly specific

[@jeremy1860]

Well, if we go by the assumption that many fans seem to have of the current Disney era all taking place in the same world, this would be one of those great connections 😊

[@mathieuleader8601]

the drunn remind me of the ravagers from Dr. Who's flux

[@earthbloodelf5289]

You have my attention! This one is an interesting theory! *Also holy cow you guys are about 3 hours earlier than usual

[@austincrumbley9742]

I hope they make a full "Disney theory" video like the pixar theory ones

[@imgabiireyes]

“INESCAPABLE DEATH!” will forever be stuck in my head.

[@DraconixDG]

this is so farfetched yet interesting

[@danielledouglas99]

That intro threw me off. I liked it, I just didn't expect to suddenly be listening to "you're welcome" Also, your Twitter comment was hilarious.

[@AdamIshak01]

This is def one of their better theories- within the TOP 10 cause it seems actually realistic. Well as realistic and plausible as you can be in a world with magic, goddesses, underworlds, and mythical creatures.

[@DneilB007]

Sometimes I watch your ad reads and think, “no way that we would be friends in real life”

[@cassiesoja6824]

Okay cool but didn't you guys say that Hercule was the reason for the Golden Flower to be created but yeah everything else makes sense

[@tontulu420]

7:26 Mat pat watching this like: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN

[@ThatOneLadyOverHere]

Con Baby bugged me too. A ninja baby can be so relatable, like Storks, but the way they did it was just not relatable at all... I would have enjoyed watching a ninja toddler, it would have been very relatable to my own, but it just felt weird...

[@OG-Morningspark]

Too much of a stretch, it just doesn’t fit, surprised you gents aren’t running with the Kumandra being in the land of Ta Lo and Dweller in Darkness/Druiin parallels. I mean Kumandra really, really, really seems like its in the dimension for Ta Lo from Shang-Chi and it wouldn’t be the first time Disney Animation did Marvel coughs* Big Hero……

[@mmclean9560]

J's sigh when he was talking about the baby in Raya. I felt that.

[@TheKnightParzival]

Maybe Te Fiti placed the dragons furthest from where she could protect, because as Moana takes place In Polynesia, Rays and The Last Dragon takes place in South Asia, the opposite end of the world.

[@stonerbland7621]

Disney verse revelation edit was brilliant

[@obiwanpez]

As much as I'm here for it, I think it's just chalked up to convergent evolution of human mythologies. Both civilizations have similar things that need explanation, and have similar things to explain them. And then similar writers from the same company took those stories and write similar stories.

[@minecat1839]

2:35 MeUndies is not what it sounds like, its completely safe but here is the skip time J, you betrayed me, I wanted something from Betterhelp, not something where I had to mute my volume to protect young ears from potential danger

[@arriannaniv]

I always interpreted it as the spirit of war. As in they are the war.

[@margaridabaptista3712]

I’m gonna need a gif of the camera zooming in on J’s realization face to use as a reaction to every one of your theories 😂

[@J24-k8f]

Hold on. Everything is golden that is magical and stuff. Soooooooo, there is a super powerful magical man that loves some gold. He, in fact, sits on a golden throne. The Emperor of Mankind is seeding the Disneyverse with powerful artifacts. 40k is connected with Disney.

[@eliyoutubeacc]

I think it's time we had annother full Disneyverse theory video!

[@soshiangel90]

I don't hate it...I don't love it...but I don't hate it. It's a fun theory and I'm all for the Te'Fiti theory! GIVE ME THE THEORY!

[@Willowing_Weaver]

But doesn't Frozen have to be put into that as well because Elsa had to trust Anna to do the right thing? The other spirits and Elsa are then the protectors of that area.

[@Shiggymidoryia]

7:15 I’m sorry WHAAAAAAAT Camilo, Rapunzel it’s like tefiti created the Disney theory

[@GBunnyG]

Finally watched Raya and immediately came to see if y'all had a theory video about it. Not disappointed!!

[@mariequill9966]

About Hercules because he was a golden baby that felt her earth. And Meg might be mother Goffle

[@otterpook]

They're all connected side note is anyone else humming the Pixar Theory song lol

[@dancingwhales3745]

7:10 The disney theory The disney theory were finally going to have it finally The disney theory The disney theory

[@sleepy_lixie]

"How much Druun do you think Twitter has made?" Lol. A lot

[@khodexus4963]

I still think the golden flower was created by Hercules drinking Hades' anti-immortality potion.

[@vcombs4276]

That one was a good theory

[@annepixiebettinger3593]

7:28 It's like Disney version of Rise of the Guardians. Each are guardians fighting the darkness in their parts of the world.

[@A.Filthy.Casual]

This is the beginning of the Disney animation version of the Pixar theory (And honestly it would make sense that disney would try and build in a secret connected universe like people theorize about for Pixar, because it gets a ton of buzz and continued discussion about the franchises)

[@Thomas_H._Smith]

7:14 Please follow up on this. This was awesome. 🤣

[@ahmedhoodh1318]

duuuuude, he's right! th flowers do look the same!

[@BigStackBlunder]

Ben could say “I am everyone’s father” and we would believe it

[@someone2803]

Love the channel just wanted to say hi

[@parkerfleming1949]

00:01:35 - 00:01:44 = J is a Swinger CONFIRMED!

[@exceedinglyexcited]

Coincidentally, I read some of the trivia section on IMDB for Encanto today and one point is "Lin-Manuel Miranda has stated as the film was being conceived that he wanted it to be about a Latin American Disney Princess and that he wanted it to take place in the same universe as Moana, though nothing obvious in the finished product confirms the latter. There are, however, two very subtle hints. During "Surface Pressure" Luisa surfs an ocean wave to the shore of a tropical island with foliage resembling Motunui's. There is also a drawing taped over Mirabel's sewing table of a butterfly floating over an active island volcano. Either of those could be anywhere, however." So, this would support a connection between Encanto and Moana at least. Even if not much seems to point to it now, it would make sense if it heavily influenced the conceptual phase and hence the higher powers of these movies could very well be connected.

[@markmacdonald2665]

I was kinda skeptical until Maui and The dragon shapeshifting looked so similar

[@CAD777]

i love your videos

[@Kumquat9701]

The Disney Theory, The Disney Theory, we're finally going to see it clearly!

[@ashmon16]

I need to say you made a very huge leap when there was a very little reason.. they can't cross water. so they could of being slipping thru the cracks of the earth for so long that when the drunn reach the island they are like plant food and the plant takes it up and dies. much like poison.

[@dooskidoodles2899]

And yet they have Never explaind how tf the paintings work in harry potter like why couldnt Dumbledore continue headmaster-ing with the paining

[@demvilon]

Please make a Disney theory like how tall have the Pixar theory! I'd die to watch a video series on that!!!

[@roseannacook7032]

So if TeFiti made the flower from tangled, does it no long link to Hercules/Where Hercules fell from the sky? 🤔😄