Did Noor Jahan Really Change In The End Or Was She Still Playing A Game? |Jafaa |Tamasha |Mann Jogi

[@Sherookiamma]

Planned halala is not allowed and that is the main concept of Mann jogi. Halala is basically when a woman gets married second time WITHOUT an intention to return to first husband. If she gets divorced or the second husband dies, she can marry the first husband.

[@HaleemaIjaz-e9s]

Aman's jaffa comment "fitty moun yar ap logo k" was personal n funny than most of the jokes 😂😂😂😂❤

[@fatimabid_khan]

Exactly

[@smriti5110]

Noor Jahan - you guys forgot to discuss about the msg that it gives. To end the generational trauma and not hold on to the grudges. I think that was beautiful.

[@silver_cottage_by_anam]

Nahi behen iss ka end yeh tha k Pakistan mein ek biryani khila k ap sab theek ker skta😂

[@rituparna1503]

Exactly! I thought it would be discussed cuz that was the premise.

[@Hetal28]

@@silver_cottage_by_anam 😂😂😂

[@fatimaali881]

​@@silver_cottage_by_anambtw, ye wohi khana tha jo ikhtiyar shah jr ke ghar aane ki khushi mein family ne dining out kiya tha 😂

[@Saad-k2e]

@@silver_cottage_by_anam😂😂😂

[@imanahsan63]

Your reviews are declining in quality. Why didn't you talk about the message of ending generational trauma in Noor Jahan? You could've had a great conversation on that. Also hassan please stop it with the far fetched assumptions, you should discuss what was given to you, not what you think should've been given to you. The ending had a very valuable lesson for everyone, although i do agree was a tad bit rushed, but it was still enjoyable. I'll miss the drama very much.

[@Mona33071]

I was hoping that it would be a great review to what has been one of the biggest dramas of the year. I’m disappointed. The review felt rushed and without any preparation. I find it annoying that Hasan stops the show and takes out his phone to see what actually transpired. I think they should have been more prepared to discuss the wonderful message given by the drama that is put an end to generational trauma.

[@imanahsan63]

@@Mona33071 totally agree with you, not discussing the nuances of the FINAL two episodes is just plain disappointing. They literally brushed over some of the most amazing scenes in the entire show (NB and Murad's confrontation scene) It just really pisses me off when they're always complaining about shows (it is justified when they're bad) but then fail to critically analyse and properly discuss some of the good ones that we get. The review was extremely haphazard and they didn't even delve into the main theme of the final episode. Disappointing.

[@AzmarakAhmad]

I agree! There was so much room for a thoughtful discussion. The Beutiful words of the letters, the self analysis and the tears of kubra. I think there is much more for discussion. It seems like you two keep getting stuck in very irrelevant things.

[@Mona33071]

@@imanahsan63 yup … and to suggest that Noor Jahan was going to poison her family is completely missing the point. Aamna has been telling us from day one that noor jahan is not evil. She was a product of the circumstances that she herself had faced and it was beautiful to see how she learned from her mistakes and with her apology she helped Noor bano put an end to this generational trauma.

[@imanahsan63]

@@Mona33071exactly 💯 this pissed me off even more cus you're just refusing to accept what the writer was trying to convey? Also, i really don't know why they want a s2? It'll just ruin the charm. A prequel might work but not a sequel. The ending was beautiful as is.

[@khanjad]

Hassan is right, even if you consider three talaqs as one and a period of three months elapsed without reconsideration, talaq happens. Even if the husband says I made a mistake and the women doesn't want to reconsider, too bad for the man

[@aneezarizwan3173]

Mann jogi: noooo nooo Hassan and Amna you guys are totally wrong about this episode.. There were very beautiful scenes and emotions are described very well.

[@afrinshahnaz727]

You both misinterpreted Mannjogi. Please, gohr se dekhe. It's talak. Because Aliya completed her iddat time. Nobody reconcile them between these period. So, talak is done. Talak ek bar kaho or teen bar islami shariyah will given you 3 month for reconciliation. After iddat time talak pura hote hay. When shabbirs mother said that talak is done, tab talak nehi huye the. Ibrahim works at a call centre. His duty is for 24 hours.

[@cabeekafarooq9789]

When Talaq is said once then Iddat period is called reconciliation period. If all the three talaqs are said altogether, then the iddat period would be purification period not the reconciliation period.

[@zizo8737]

Yess

[@shahshah4681]

Amna clearly hasnt watched the drama closely

[@maragathm]

question once he said 3 times he immediately regret it, he went to her and said it was told in anger it does not count. it was his mother who interfered and stopped reconciliation between them. So whey did she do that?

[@mmariahameed]

Because she is ignorant and assumes that 3 talaq is a final talaq. However had she not interfered they could have easily reconciled. But now after 3 months and completion of said reconciliation period talaq is now finally complete. So whichever school of thought one may follow, talaq is complete between shabir and aliyq

[@mahwishzahra3547]

Mann Jogi: I can't believe that you both found the Valentine scene out of place... The body language of Ibrahim was so accurate and Sabreena was ready because dinner was arranged by Anita with intention. More just to establish that Valentina celebrates in Feb ... They gave the attention to details that at the night of running from Ibrahim's house, Ibrahim wear a black shawl . (knowing the fact that this drama was picturised in May and June Humidity time).. Secondly... Have you noticed that with the passage of time Ibrahim's Kajal is going from his eyes .... Aur Kitni attention to details chahye 😅

[@flavoursoflife4834]

Agree with you..,.and I don't know what's wrong with Amnaji....all of sudden in 7 episode she is saying ki talaaq hua hi nahi hai😢... Every thing every details are so accurate, only thing is u have to watch carefully....This is the only drama where minute details are taken care of❤❤❤ My favourite ❤

[@naveednaz8283]

I dunno … the scene did kinda seem out of place …

[@naveednaz8283]

Especially how chaudhry Zubair wife comes there and just has a casual chat and goes away? And then later she just mentions it casually to her husband … what was she doing there alone on Valentine’s Day dinner time?! why doesn’t Aliya react with panic that they got randomly discovered … instead of chaudhry zubair wife, it could’ve been shabbir? something didn’t stack up!

[@mahwishzahra3547]

@@naveednaz8283 you didn't get the point...Ch. Zubair's wife was angry with Aliya because Ch. Shabbir's mother scrolls her on the phone and then misbehaves at their house. She was saying all of her lines in a sarcastic way... " Ajj Kia Lia ha Shabbir k liye ... Nap b to liye phir Rahi ha... Main b Valentina hi manane aai hon" Narazgi ki waja se who dost KO Bura samjh Rahi thi... Yh hi Apne Husband KO b mention Kia us ne k main isko idolised karti thi ... Aliya Ka reaction was so on point... She was stuck in the news of Bubli.. that she is suffering from breast cancer. Baqi uss ne bolne Ka moqa hi ni dia

[@naveednaz8283]

@@flavoursoflife4834 nice conclusion you are drawing about why people are not watching drama by taking comments of someone who is watching the drama 😂 …. I personally found this scene and its execution out of place … the way Aliya and Ibrahim are on the run from shabbir, they should’ve been trembling at the thought that instead of chaudhry zubair wife, it could have been chaudhry shabbir … have you forgotten how scared they were in the church scenes? this should’ve been a huge wake up call for them that they can easily be found

[@shank3553]

Noor Jahan was brilliant all the way through Mussadik is the real hero what brilliant direction and the finale was beautifully done ❤I just have one gripe- They should have showed another scene bw Murad and Noor bano they had such a brilliant climax and we didnt see how she reaolved it with him the whole episode I was waiting obv they did it on purpose to make people think Murad dies but we really needed a scene bw them or a flash back how they resolved it I really missed that! Otherwise the message about generational trauma was brilliant. Usually, you don't get that in drama so I love how they focused on that I love how all the women were empowered and I love how NJ finally saw the error of her ways. It wasn't overnight several months had gone by alone in her house. I loved how Kubra came with the cake and ended the whole scene. They finally ended the generational trauma, although this rarely happens in real life so it was a nice and inspirational ending that that's how it should be but yeah usually people never change lol

[@findyem7828]

Agreed ❤❤

[@seemalhasan2931]

NJ was not faking it for sure. The only good thing abhi Nooro Mama was always that she was same inside out. She never pretended anything. Yess real life NJ's never change but loved this ending of Drama.

[@sanakhan.6319]

True

[@Waleed.869]

I loved noor jahans ending. Noor jahan wasn’t inherently evil but her in-laws turned her into this. And it wasn’t a 5 minute change like we usually see like in mere hamsafar but they showed months pass by to make her realize what she had been doing. I only wish they showed her apologizing to saifeena too as she endured the most out all of them. Overall amazing drama with brilliant writing and direction.

[@mahnoorqureshi9112]

When did the last episode come? I didn’t know it ended.

[@moeezmufti6274]

@@mahnoorqureshi9112last Saturday

[@Waleed.869]

@@mahnoorqureshi9112 it came out 2 days ago on Saturday

[@amnaqureshi4501]

ABSOLUTELY 💯 RIGHT ✅️

[@Mona33071]

The best ending would have been that she would have asked Safina to cut the cake with her.

[@asmaawan8609]

Dear Amna. Whichever school of thought you believe in, divorce still ho chuki hai. Let's say they had reconciliation period, but it's over since they considered it as idatt and after that married her off to ibrahim...

[@Shortsking-d2r]

@@asmaawan8609 very much right and reconciliation period ,for instance you take it，but that means if you want to back (though I don't believe in that school of thought), which Aliya is clear that she doesn't and will not.she completed her iddat and then she was made to that nikkah

[@MeenaKumari-iz2kw]

So right and shabbirs mom wanted to. Stay at their home in IDDAT because thay did not want the world neigbourhood to know about it

[@ali4X4gaming]

Amna must be ahle tashi as hassan points that amna you must know ahle tashi belief . I feel the shia way is the best way but we can't say the ways are wrong so amna must understand that there are different schools of thought and they all are accepted to be be right

[@sabazeee5341]

@@ali4X4gaming nhe ahle hadith jo k muslims hn or bilkul Quran or sunnat or sahih hadith k mutabik chalte hn unka yehi belief h..lekin pakistan me ulma or log hmaray Nabi salallaho alaihiwasallam ki hadith k bjaye fiqh hanfi ko maante hn halan k imam abu hanifa bhi Ap s.a.w ki hadith ko follow krte the..or ye 1 waqt me 3 talaq dena hmaray Nabi s.a.w se sabit nhe bal k Hazrat umar r.a ne ye law nafiz kiya tha..jb k sahi tareeqa yehi k 3 alag time period me talaq di jaye qk 1 waqt me completely talaq nhe hoti

[@zizo8737]

Exactly

[@aishashoaib9921]

If someone criticizes you, take it easy, Hasan. You’re conducting a program reviewing dramas and critiquing them, so you need to handle criticism gently. Don’t get mad. You can respond in a better way.

[@saimapasha1502]

Oh yeah, he can’t handle criticism at all! 😛😛It's like when he reviews dramas, we should be reviewing his show. Someone get him a chill pill 🤭🤭

[@shehzaadiammu2689]

💯💯

[@TheHealingtips]

That was too much for me too, almost felt like “ okay let’s get over this now, shall we?!” Even though I didn’t write any of those comments but his reaction was very immature and overly sensitive!! Who cares what six people in the scheme of million viewers think, just get over it already!! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@moeezmufti6274]

He always does this and always has a justification, how absurd it may be. He takes offence at the smallest of things and picks criticism from comments like needles in a haystack

[@AbdulRehman-ip9cv]

So truee, he does not take criticism well himself whereas he is being a critic himself, the irony 🤦

[@maryam19201]

Dear Amna! Divorce has taken place in Mann Jogi. Hassan's religious views were more clear.

[@sadiakhalil5771]

In my USA muslim community, talaq has happened. The Sunni jurists generally consider triple repudiation, or other similar pronouncements that lead to absolute divorces (talaq al-batta), to be reprehensible (makruh). Yet even though triple repudiation is disapproved, traditional Sunni jurists nonetheless consider it effective and binding.

[@ShManzar]

Although Hassan blundered too

[@NishaStoriesAndVlogs]

Aamna , I am mother of two daughters and God forbid if any of my daughters has a spouse with anger issues then I will definitely speak to him personally and ask him to be treated, how is this interference, my child is married to you, not given to you to treat her as per your whims and fancies, sorry, being a woman I was surprised that you think differently

[@gicnusrat2734]

Noor Jahan- Ending was so good Noor Jahan changed but they forgot Sakina birthday is also on same day I wish Noor Jahan invited her to cut the cake .

[@familyfood9586]

JAFFA: I don't think so Dr numair is giving andaleeb space that's y he was avoiding her, I think he still has some issue, he just act normal bcuz he doesn't want andaleeb to leave him. In early episodes when he didn't know about moiz he said to andaleeb that he doesn't want children and was keep saying that he doesn't want to marry. I believe that he still has a problem.

[@zydasa5506]

I kept thinking that Dr was always in love with Zahra....

[@swagataborah]

Noor Jahan- they could have shown Noor Jahan cutting the birthday cake with Safeena, as it was her birthday as well (as per the 1st episode)

[@LoveYourself.....]

Yes. They missed that point

[@Brandsonly23]

It came in my mind too.. y writer couldn't remember... And 2ndly they didn't show hero's son sikander aslo... Last episode was little bit incomplete

[@Shortsking-d2r]

@@swagataborah I mentioned that in the comments of the last episode .

[@fatima95808]

Agreed!!

[@aumiaafreen2776]

The Pakistani TV industry should be proud of the drama Noor Jahan. The writing, direction, and performances were all par excellence. This is the best dramas I've seen in the last few years, and I will truly miss this drama.

[@uswairfan9557]

Noor jahaan ended perfectly bzc in the end she was a mother and never deserved to be isolated forever, happy to see her changed and with her family but yes she should have met sikander Noor bano cake ki jagah apna bacha utha k lati to zada Acha hota.

[@mishinihal1958]

true

[@moeezmufti6274]

NJ: It was just beautiful and surprising. It is very mature; NJ, even being cruel and manipulative, was badly damaged and because she was so caught up with rivalling Mukhtiyar, being NJ that she forgot what problem she had. The alone time was necessary for her to know how wrong she has been. It was wonderful that she was forgiven and mended her ways. The timeline was confusedly done but it’s definitely a year: NB gave birth and two birthdays had passed. NB forgiving and breaking the cycle of hate was beautiful. Had it been the usual ending, it would’ve been fine but this was even better. The fact she sent NB the letter being vulnerable and asking forgiveness is enough of a change because a person like NJ can only ask for forgiveness at the last resort. Hassan has a simplistic view of human development and emotions. Musaddeq & Zanjabeel deserve all credit. The former made each scene shorter, crisp, to the point and thrilling while the former gave it a human touch with revenge in the background. Zanjabeel can write amazingly if she wants to. Saba Hameed was magnificent. She felt grounded and restraint. She portrayed NJ’s scheming, manipulation, pain and trauma yet poise, graceful and elegant was brilliant. She was irreplaceable. Kubra was a perfect match for NJ. She was intelligent, scheming and smart. She didn’t go under the radar or got overshadowed. Alina is a breakthrough performance. She was really elegant and calm.

[@planetgamerz3712]

I think you both were sleeping while watching Mon joggi so you were unable to see the beauty and rawness of pure love in the valentine scene.yiu have missed all the detailing in that particular scene

[@mahwishzahra3547]

@@planetgamerz3712 JBH... Ya phir drama khatam Karne se pahlay Kuch to burai Karni thi ... So yh hi burai Mili.. 😏😑

[@Mia-mi7mr]

@@planetgamerz3712 you could say that with tameez too

[@banchan9oo]

bakwas tha scene woh .. jesy halat un dono k chal rahy hain unmy valentine ka tukk nhe banta tha koi.

[@gicnusrat2734]

You can keep your point with respect. It's their pov.

[@s_-_238]

fr I think they watched smth else. this was mann jog I’d best ep yet

[@banchan9oo]

Mann Jogi: Halala is not the way to go back to first husband. A woman can't remarry (after getting divorced by the first husband) for the sole reason to get back to the first husband(astagfirullah), there is no such thing in the sunni Islam that I follow. In other words the second marriage of that woman can't be on the basis of spending a night with the second husband and getting a divorce the next day. This is against the core purpose of marriage in Islam. That's why the drama is focused on calling the practice haram in the first episode. Nikkah ghar basanay k liye hota hai, aur aik pasandida sunnat hai. Nikkah jesi chiz py talaq ki shart laga dena. Yeh to biddat ho gae deen mein(nau'zobillah). And yes in sunni Islam aik waqt mein 3 talaq valid ho jati hai. Hasan was right about it. edit: want to add k 1 talaq k bad bhi jo rujuh ka period hai agar woh guzar jata hai without reconciling to nikah khatam ho jata hai aur woh aurat kisi aur sy nikkah kr skti hai(jo k Aliya ka case hai according to amna, if I am not wrong). in sb maslon py kafi mufti k bayan youtube py hain.

[@sukhqazmi5837]

Read Quran. U don't need any fiqh for it. Talaq keh baray main clear clear word by word hidayaat diin gayiin hain in Quran so doesn't matter what is in Sunni or any other fiqh.

[@srkjs]

@banchan9oo Will 2nd you. Hope amna and hassan read our comments. For this reason, Giving Talaq in Anger is Haram because emotions are tempered and flared by Shytaan . According to my understanding, in anger, 3 talaq in one time is valid and such should Not Happen. Meanwhile, there is absolutely No Concept of Halala in Islam and as it carries extremely Wrong Intent. The lady can marry, with the pure Intent to live with her new husband and Only if something happens and they are no longer together for any Genuine reasons only then if she wants she can remarry her first husband. Other then that, its innovation and forbidden in our religion. There are very good information simplified through understanding of Quran by the scholars. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIuymaSopplpoZIsi=3af0HEtC1oQKN2g5 Surah Baqra has information on Talaq. Please check it out

[@shahidanisar447]

Very well explained.

[@raaniyah5241]

​@@sukhqazmi5837 We read translations so we have to follow someone.

[@findyem7828]

​@@raaniyah5241the translations are simple any one can understand it if they really want to

[@saimasalik6284]

Mann Jogi: Amna is wrong! Point is not if HALALA is jaiz,; drama is against planning Halala

[@AmeerHamza-e8g]

Right 👍

[@Umama2289]

Exactly. There are so many holes in this discussion, maybe they need to stop discussing religious stuff without proper research. Just review the dramas if you can't be bothered with accuracy

[@wafiyakola1807]

I agree wt u completely,if people don't know abt fiqh issues,dey shudnt b talkin abt it frm their point f view n I myself ve corrected aamna so many times. Guys plss try t do a lil research in religious matters before reviewing it ,oderwise just do a random review without discussing fiqh issues coz it's dangerous as millions f people watch u n mostly people f less knowledge follow ur opinions blindly without research . Usually I feel Hassan has a lil more knowledge in religious issues, nt t offend Amna ji at all. Bt plsss guys b careful next time . Islam is a perfect religion n it's nt based on anyone's POV. We can't use our logic anywhere v want.

[@Umama2289]

@@wafiyakola1807 I feel Hasan has a little better knowledge because he was in LUMS at a time when there were many religious bayans going on. I know because I was there too around that time. His knowledge seems to reflect the school of thought of most of those talks. Perhaps he was also inspired to study on his own. But regardless, they both have only a smattering of religious knowledge and it's not their area. So they need to take a step back imo

[@wafiyakola1807]

@@Umama2289 agree

[@drseeratfatima6452]

Noor Jahan - What a legendary drama! What an amazing start, and what an even more incredible ending! The level of performances from the key actors was truly outstanding. This drama was nothing short of a phenomenal masterpiece. The character of Noor Jahan was remarkable, with so many relatable arcs. We see these types of characters all around us. Though they portrayed a typical mother-in-law character, her actions resonated beyond that, symbolizing how some women, when given authority, begin to take out their past frustrations on those below them. It's a vicious cycle that repeats endlessly in society. But Noor Jahan delivers an important message: this cycle can end. The finale was particularly powerful, as Noor Jahan ultimately helps Noor Bano avoid becoming another version of herself. This was an incredible way to wrap up the narrative. Hats off to Nooru Mama for her performance! It wouldn’t be fair to leave out the daughter-in-law characters. These women were examples of how one woman can fix another’s crown without making a big deal out of it. The four ladies absolutely nailed their roles. At every level, they stood by each other, offering mutual support, which was beautiful to witness. In short, Noor Jahan was nothing less than brilliance personified. An epic tale, a masterful piece of storytelling, and an absolute treat to watch.

[@Mona33071]

Yes! I’m kind of disappointed in their review. They didn’t touch upon the messages it conveyed. Hasan’s point of view is totally screwed. It kills the whole purpose of the drama. They clearly portrayed that they wanted the generational trauma to end.

[@mualimabyheart]

Mann Jogi: Amna, please go study fiqh... Islam doesn't go with your POV.

[@rabbiyahamid3676]

Absolutely

[@shireenshakeel9220]

Exactly

[@AA-2802]

Amna, its not about your POV. Its fiqqah. If you give 3 tallaq at once. You're done. Phir reconciliation nahi ho sakta.

[@ms7721-l2x]

Unfortunately in today’s time we are more inclined towards fiqa than Islam itself .. i would say overall our Pakistani nation suffers due to lack of knowledge and understanding of islam, we are usually lead by the mullana sahaab of our mosques not by Quran n sunnah…according to Quran n sunnah ( what guidance our prophet provided) the way of divorce in sunhi Fiqa is not exactly the way Quran describes. That is why our society is suffering. Neither intentional Halala is permitted nor talaq happen by saying it in one time. If you repeat word talaq even 100 time in a row still it will be considered One . And with one talaq if ruju is not been done within three months then women is free to mary any other man or with the same man but with new nikha and new haq Meher. ( this in only with one time divorce or can happen with second time but with third time divorce there is not option of reconciliation with the same man ) Islam is an extremely intelligent religion and cannot have emotional imbalance. For more refrence please listen to DR israr Ahmad lectures on talaq or dr Zakir Naik as he have given it in depth n detail.

[@aamnaisani]

@@ms7721-l2x Thank you!

[@ramsys74]

It is certainly part of Indian culture to leave your outdoor shoes outside. I live in US and even here most of the folks from outside (including Americans) ask if I want their shoes off inside the house and I say Yes. It is what it is. We do wear inside slippers which dont go outside the house.

[@positivelyhappymom3238]

We never wear outside shoes indoors. I’m from Nepal now in USA and we still practice the same here. So do most Indian , and other Asian households. I think the etiquette would be to do what the host / owner would want. We do wear indoor slippers and also have few extras for guests :)

[@ambermalik3146]

And if wear shoes atleast dont take them to the rug or the carpet. Basic etiquette

[@fatimanaseem9484]

Man jogi: Amna is wrong. The talaq has been occured and iddat has been completed! Yes, it is SUGGESTED to get separated over a period of 3 months. But if you choose to still get separated all at once, it does happen whatsoever! An act which is suggested and appreciated cannot nullify the opposite act!

[@abdullahmashari3552]

Coz she is shia as hassan says in your way

[@Alicasweetie]

After iddat woman has choice to remarry same person or marry another person.

[@zizo8737]

Exactly it’s a choice to think but if you didn’t avail marriage is nullified

[@mxhsvn_b7866]

​@@abdullahmashari3552 she's not shia.

[@ms7721-l2x]

According to Quran woman is meant to spend her edatat at her husband house whether it is due to talaq or death of the husband but definitely should separate the bedrooms. The reason for this is if women is pregnant and she is not aware of it at the time talaq took place it can cause her accusations of bearing someone else child.

[@mehreenkhan20]

I disagree with Hassan that everyone assumes the sons will be back living in her house. They only came to visit and will continue living separately. That was so obvious.

[@arpithareddy3384]

MannJogi : Anitha works in call center.. which runs 24/7.. Anitha does night duty which was established in her introduction scene .

[@seharsheikh_9]

Mann jogi: Ibrahim bag le k jata hai kyunki night duty hoti hai uski call centre pe 5 din aur raat ko bhi vahin rehna tha itne din........ Sirf weekend pe vo ghr ja skta tha aur ye cheez mention ki hui hai already......

[@alisahsyed1795]

In dono ko nahi pata na call center hoty Kya han bus byth k baty Kara lo in say

[@gicnusrat2734]

Mann Jogi- Ibrahim told Aliya he got the 5 days and night Job in Call center in same office where Anita's worked. It was very clear they all are in Lahore only but yes it is quite weird Shabir is politician but still he couldn't find them . May be director wants to take liberty .

[@Raksha5556]

Shabir is silently searching as he wants to hide that his wife ran with other man who was a servant so he indirectly filed case through molbi

[@mandakini1983]

In Noor Jahan review I felt as if Aamna and Us are watching an entirely different drama and Hassan is watching an entirely different one. Hassan, please stop watching crime thrillers. The sons were just visiting their mom on her birthday.

[@jiyacancer871]

I just love the ending of Noor Jahan. Noor jahan was cruel and victim both (ظالم بھی اور مظلوم بھی) During the whole drama it was continuously in my mind that Mukhtiyar Shah did wrong with Noor Jahan by saying her Non Syed and 'neech khandan ki" and they showed him a good man. But at the end they showed that humans are grey. کوئی بھی انسان شیطان نہیں ہوتا اور نہ ہی فرشتہ ہوتا ہے ۔

[@Ali-sl9qy]

Mann jogi: If it targets mature audience then we as a mature audience don't have to ask the drama for explanations which has already given directly or indirectly ( like he works on in call centre so it is obvious work will be 24/7 as anita also work day and night shift as well) and in 3rd episode it has already shown to us that anita has to move out because of mob things.. and most important thing since ANITA IS CHRISTIAN IT IS THE MOST OBVIOUS THING THAT SHE WOULD TAKE THEM TO THAT PLACE SPECIALLY ON V.tine DAY...

[@zizo8737]

Omg exactly

[@rushmikashyap4890]

In most part of India, we remove slipper outside and specifically in south India we don't wear home slippers.

[@navpreetsekhon1053]

But in north India it is not like that but south Indians are very particular about removing the shoes....I respect both cultures.

[@raaniyah5241]

​@@navpreetsekhon1053in Pakistan only Punjab n Sindhis probably don't remove. Rest everyone does esp north

[@geetanair613]

In India also we remove slippers outside and do not walk with shoes in the house.. house slippers are different.. guests remove shoes outside... Ans mostly people walk barefoot inside the house... With or without carpetting

[@moeezmufti6274]

Small thing: Musaddeq changing title screens three times, each time when the act changed is brilliant. First title screen was everybody being behind NJ & showing how they all are subservient to her. Act 1: Kubra is newly wed. Second showed a different one: NJ sitting on her throne, but NB is behind the throne and front of other and alone - as if eyeing for it. Murad sitting below NJ foreshadows that he was used by both NJ & NB. Act 2: Kubra has now embarked on revenge. Third one reverses everything: NB sits on NJ’s throne with Murad by her side, while everyone is behind her - signifying a change in the home. Sumbul is also at the very back showing how she has gone. Act 3: Kubra has defeated NJ. Title screens are a good way to communicate about the drama and Musaddeq used it brilliantly.

[@alizaimran4260]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@amnaqureshi4501]

❤❤❤

[@Mia-ge7xf]

didnt even think that way but ur so right!!! brilliant observation

[@sukhqazmi5837]

Brilliant observation! 💜

[@fatima95808]

I noticed this as well really good!!

[@gicnusrat2734]

Mann Jogi- They all are in Lahore Ibrahim is working in same office where Anita is working she only recommended him . he is doing five days job 24/7 in 40K he himself said to Aliya its 5 day Job where he has to stay in office only . Only on weekend he will visit her .Anita is doing night duty in same office only . She does not live with her parents. Ibrahim and Aliya took local bus to travel from one area to other area in Lahore only which is normal . We do same in India.

[@banchan9oo]

han lekin yahan same city ki bus leny baray terminal py nhe jaty hum yar 😂

[@sshah7135]

MANN JOGI: Hassans concept of divorce is correct. Shabbir after saying talak to Aliya thrice ,Aliya and Shabbir did not reconcile with each other with in 3 months period . AND Aliya even mentions infront of her brother and sister in law that she sat in shabbirs house for 3 months (as in eddat ) ,then ideally Shabbir being a fool and not knowing this that if he had reconciled with Aliya during those 3 months THE DIVORCE WOULD HAD BEEN RESOLVED !!! But no this drama highlights the illiteracy of massses that considers 3 talaks in one go as final divorce .

[@HBZ17]

Shabbir and his mother brought this talaaq issue to the moulvi, and even he misguided them and told them that the talaq had happened and there was no resolution. So it shows that even the moulvis and local mosques aren’t very well-informed on Sharifah.

[@fatimaali881]

No, in this drama.. these characters are belong to Hanafi where 3 talaq in one go is considered as 3 talaq .. so there is no room for reconciliation

[@ShManzar]

After giving 3 talaqs, the iddat is not Raje'e anymore, you cannot reconcile. Only after the first or second talaq, iddat is Raje'e. Not after 3.

[@sidrainam4585]

Regarding talaq issue. If the drama is based on hanafi school of thought which is the prevailing madhab' in Asia then three talaq in one sitting means talaq baina that means complete talaq. For talaq baina , a man can't remarry the same woman unless she is 'NATURALLY' married and 'Naturally' divorced or widowed . But making it a conscious or deliberate practice is Haram. Amina is reasonable if we consider any other school of thought which consider as many talaq in one sitting as one . The talaq baina hasn't established and there was no need to put this Halala issue ( honestly don't even wana use this word to gve this idea any weightage) in it. But as the concept is based in India Pakistan which follows hanafi school of thought than they would consider 3 talaq as one.

[@banchan9oo]

yes and the people ignore the "natural" remarrying & "natural divorce" or "death" of that second husband and only then the woman marrying the first husband again(if she wants to). Logon ny nehayat ghatya yeh halala (naouz'billah) practice bana li hai is society mein. Pehle hi tabah hain yeh loag aur Allah k azab ko awaz dety hain. biddat krtay hain yeh loag.

[@mahnaznadeem902]

Mazhab not madhab

[@HauteCuisine_88]

Jafa: Hahahahahahahah Amna's explanation was hilarious and that khotay was so on point.

[@uzmamaroof3290]

Why someone so ignorant of shariah is commenting with so much confidence! It should have not been discussed like that!

[@luzvez]

shut up it’s a drama & not a religious show

[@ShManzar]

Amna is like that, she also doesn't like it if you advise her or contradict her, poor thing.

[@ShManzar]

​@@luzvez don't be rude beta

[@luzvez]

@@ShManzar mind your own business

[@uzmamaroof3290]

@@ShManzar thanks!

[@amnahabbas1877]

Noor Jahan: 1) NJ was talking about her previous birthday, not necessarily the birthday shown in beginning. It would have been better that they showed one birthday in between. 2) NJ has changed for good, however they showed have shown more scenes of how she missed her sons, and suffered more. Like she hears anout hero's don, and doesnt get to see him. So a lil more suffering would have more convincing. 3) it was implied that the eldest son will be back as he says he wants same hands to raise Insiya. To which his wife pauses but then shows an acceptance smile. 4) they definitely rushed the last 2 ones. Maybe if airing time is off, they should have extended releases for youtube 5) season 2 will damage the impact of this one. 6) people cannot change completely overnight but they can still change. NJ may have been a harsh MIL but she wasnt a bad mother, so she deserved forgiveness of her sons, she had not really done any permanent damage....so her punishment would also not be permanent. 7) they didn't discuss if the sons separated from.the business as well..they possibly could continue work for her, biggest loophole. They just didn't even address it at all.

[@fatima95808]

Agreed a lot missing should’ve addressed

[@munzzamian8551]

Noor jahan, my two cents complaint about Noor Jahan didn't apologize to Sumbal . She should've because she did damage her the most.

[@Hetal28]

Mann jogi: you guys did not understand the episode at all The writers POV is that talaq is done (no need to dig deep in religion ) I am not Muslim but it’s just a story and we must go with flow of the world writer has created He works in call center which all know works 24/7

[@ayeshakhan6552]

💯

[@ShManzar]

Writer can't determine religious principles or laws. If he's taking up a matter of religion, he must ensure its correct. POV doesn't matter

I am surprised Hasan and Aamna find Bismil intriguing ! Hareem is abs annoying .. her acting is so over the top .. very badly handled drama .

[@sunflowerandsunset]

I know right actually personally don't like hareem at all. I don't know why they like hareem. Bismil is very weird hareem makes 10 times worse.

[@javeriaimran8475]

Totally agree

[@mahnoorqureshi3281]

Jafaa: The debate whether Hassan is an abuser or not becomes immaterial since he is a potential threat to his wife. Even if he takes treatment, Zara needs to protect herself, for treatment is no magic. On the other hand, they have not shown Dr. Numair to have any serious problem. I think it is just his apprehension since he is a Paediatric Oncologist. They have not closed the chapter of Moiz, so they can force misunderstandings between them. The main track of interest would be of Zara, Hassan’s, though.

[@atiya3416]

Zain who?

[@MNZ-hp7cm]

U mean moiz?

[@mahnoorqureshi3281]

Thanks for correcting. ☺️

[@samrahmumtaz9469]

I completely agree. How can any girl choose to live with a husband like Hassan? He may not be abusive, but he certainly poses a considerable threat. Zara's mother is right..... living with him is not an option... she even has to think carefully before engaging with him. On the other hand It seems that only Hassan and Amna view Dr. Numair, in this light, otherwise, it's evident that he is portrayed as someone who lacks social engagement and enthusiasm. He is intentionally giving Andaleep space, understanding that she has endured a lot.... he is not imposing himself on her, and It's very apparent that Numair wishes to keep Andaleep in his life, but he is careful not to pressure her into anything.

[@seeya7610]

I kept saying that about Hassan but it’s unbelievable how almost everyone keeps sympathizing with him. He is definitely a potential treat to her period. Her job is to protect herself! Hated having kids & compromising dialogues too. Like what? It’s even more important to leave when kids involved. Putting kids in danger too.

[@fizza3897]

How can you say talaaq nahi hui? She spent her iddat and was married to Ibrahim, ainvihi bina divorce ke shaadi kaise hojayegi?! There is no such thing as halala, the entire concept is against what islam stands for. Idk what made you think of it now after 7 eps Also it was clearly shown that the job is day and night for 5 days… its a call centre thats open day and night

[@ShManzar]

Halala is a concept established in the Qur'an and Sunnah. Natural halala, not planned.

[@neeli8423]

I think Noor Jahan did change. I was not expecting this end either and I loved it too. It was very powerful. Although I do agree that murad and Noor bano's track needed a few more scenes.

[@mitthosaleh2172]

Mann Jogi.. this drama is a real a master piece 🙌 👏 👌

[@MusfikurGazi]

Mann jogi will always be close to my heart ❤ Sabeena Farooq and Bilal Abbas khan creates magic onscreen with their phenomenal acting skills ❤️‍🔥😍 They did pure justice to their characters Aliya and Ibrahim so wonderfully 😊 🎉 Aliya and Ibrahim,s adorable chemistry makes my eyes glitter and warm up my heart also ❤🎉 Mann jogi is truly a masterpiece ❤ It is a short but impactful drama ❤🎉😊

[@Tw14169]

I think it was 2 years. First birthday she celebrated at the first episode. Then second birthday she celebrated alone. Third birthday was again family reunited.

[@mahwishzahra3547]

Mann Jogi: Ibrahim is working at the same Call center where Anita is working... He mentioned that he will work day and night.. and in 3rd episode it's already stabilised that Anita did night duties. So call centre work 24/7... Which is normal. Anita is in the same city. But due to that particular incident of Aliya's Father death .. Anita is working in the same city but here mother and Father visit her. Yar app ne ghoor se ni dekha iss bar😅

[@gicnusrat2734]

So true . About triple talaq issue Aamna baji is right but Hassan bhai explained so well still few people believe in triple talaq

[@BaharyGull-sw9sy]

@@mahwishzahra3547 correct

[@ayshcandy7155]

but I wonder why Aliya's brother called Shabbir??? He heard him saying k us ne talaq de di to phir us ne anita ka address kiun bataya shabbir ko?

[@mahwishzahra3547]

@@ayshcandy7155 "Yh log bojh Nahi utha skate Mera... Bhai Sans b Shabbir se poch k letay ha "... Iss liye... He is a darpok mard . Itna k Ibrahim ki resistance se dar gaya

[@ayshcandy7155]

@@mahwishzahra3547 darpok hai lekin halal haram ka to pata hoga. shabir to chalo zabrdasti halala k liye man gya lekin bhai ne jb sun lia k talaq ho gai hai to usy anita ka nhi btana chahye tha. bhai to aliya ka hi hai after all. to behn ki talaq k bad or kisi or se nikah k bad wo kesy apni behn ko wapis uske ex husband k pas bhej skta hai jiska pata b hai k wo usy kis trah treat kry ga

[@onlywatch99]

4:12 - Learned something new! I didn't realize that this was not a thing in Pakistan. In South India it is very normal for folks to remove their shoes before entering someone's home. And homes aren't carpeted for sure for the most part. Area rugs are normal but not wall to wall carpet. In the US it is extremely common for people to wear shoes indoors.

[@jaisyjazz]

I m surprised too to hear they don't remove their shoes before entering home. In India we all remove it.

[@ForlifeNA]

​@@jaisyjazz Ooh wow..i never knew that Indians have this tradition bcz i have seen countless Indian/South Indian movies, even dramas and web series etc. maybe south India has this culture as they definitely show so many cultural things.

[@pinkysondhi6153]

It's common in south India but not everywhere.

[@jaisyjazz]

@@ForlifeNA I m talking about in real life, middle class and poor people don't wear it inside the house ofcourse in tv shows and movies they wear it inside the house.

[@sahargulzar8657]

Having served as the head of the union councils, there are a few things that I would like to say about the Talaq issue. Yes, according to certain schools of thoughts, Fiqh Hanfi being one of them, talaq uttered thrice simultaneously is considered a final talaq. Pakistan's law, however, doesn't accept this view. This legal consideration doesn't bar people from those schools of thought followings their own practice, though. So once triple talaq is pronounced, the families normally bar any further contact between spouses. The issue of halala is different: the premise of the drama is not that halala is something inherently bad. The premise is that a nikkah carried out with the express and prior intent of divorce is wrong and haram which is perfectly in line with the ideologies of all schools of thought. That being said there are certainly creative liberties taken in the drama the biggest one being that they haven't done any documentation/registration for the divorce, without which a new nikkah isn't possible. But if they had registered the talaq it won't be possible to keep it secret, which leads me to believe that they haven't gotten the divorce registered.

[@ShManzar]

Registration of nikah and talaq usually done with Imam masjid. They're the designated officers who have the registers.

[@sahargulzar8657]

@@ShManzar Nikkah,Talaq, births, and deaths, all are registered at your respective union councils. The union council/local government issues the certificate of nikkah khuwan to the Imam Masjid. Any Imam Masjid that hasn't been registered as such with the local government authorities cannot conduct nikkah. It is true to the extend of Punjab Government at least.

[@ShManzar]

@@sahargulzar8657 Yes I understand that beta. For the public the contact officer is Imam masjid.

[@seemamurad4576]

Mann Jogi: Talaq is valid because he pronounced three talaqs and Aaliya observed iddat and did not reconcile in that period.

[@zizo8737]

Exactly

[@praleenas0162]

Mann Jogi: Episode 7 was one of the best episodes. How can you guys not like it and you have missed many details Aneeta took them out for Valentine's day so that they can have some conversation. About Ibrahim's job: he is doing job at Aneeta's work place and it was mentioned that he has to work for day and night for 5 days and he will have holiday on weekends. About the looks, Ibrahim looks different now as he is not having Surma in his eyes and his clothes are different now. Why you are saying talaq nahi huyi. If you keep aside Halala thing, ek baar toh talaq huyi and Aliya can get married to someone else after 1 talaq. This show is not about Halala, it's about Ibrahim and Aliya's journey

[@vivivivi2000]

jafaa: i loved to see how numair let deebu do everything in this episode which he didn’t want her to do in the last episode. the way he woke up and shyly asked her “mere kapde press ho gaye?” and then asked her to make pulao and also told her that it’s because he likes it very much. it was seriously so good. it makes me think that he DID want to experience being a newlywed and have his partner do the cute things that wives typically do, but hesitated at first because he thought deebu was probably doing all this to just “make this work”. about the last expression, well… from my analysis of the character, he is definitely an introvert. so he’s probably just embarrassed. because again, he wants to take things slow. besides, someone who’s as mature as him knows that his mom was kinda crossing a line with the bachha comment, especially because of all the sh** that went down until VERY RECENTLY. because he does touch her sometimes. he’s held her hand once or twice before AND in the promo of the next episode, he pulls her close. since deebu has a history of being forced into doing things by her parents, numair is definitely unsure whether deebu is consciously making these decisions or doing it impulsively/emotionally. so he’s giving her time. but i believe there is some baggage. not related to children though.

[@nkhan8933]

Man jogi: no Aamna, because they didn’t reconcile during her iddat the divorce did happen. Yes the teen talaq is taken as one and if the molvi had guided them properly they could have reconciled. But let’s say even with one talaq and no reconciliation, talaq happens. And we know Aliya spent her iddat in the same house but there was no reconciliation, hence talaq happened. My brother divorce happened the same way, he sent her talaq once, and they didn’t reconcile during her iddat, talaq occured.

[@qadeerahmad8227]

Hassan bhai ki jab koi tareef kare to bade khush hote hai sab achcha achcha or zara si baat pe itna bura behaviour.....jab k tareeqa to yahi hai ke kisi ke kaleen ya carpet pe outdoor shoes nikal k jaye it's all about basic manner and respect and hygiene so PYAARE HASSAN take it easy

[@afraiqbal1019]

34:11 #washma ghalat insert dala hai😭 hassan specifically wanted insert of where the episode freezed. not this apple wala

[@rukshik]

Where is Shahrukh?

[@ZaheerAhmad-mt9mj]

Editors bs inke kamall hai

[@zaroonjunaid3520]

Go washma give us nothing 😂😂

[@afraiqbal1019]

@@rukshik he’s on their team as well but for these insert issues, hassan said to hashtag washma. she’s also on their team

[@warshma]

Hi, thank you so much for your feedback! We truly appreciate it. I did provide detailed links and timestamps to the editor for each clip, including the one you mentioned, but it’s ultimately up to the editor to decide which clips to include. That said, we're continuously striving to improve and deliver the best quality content. I’ll make sure we get all the clips in the next video! Hope you enjoy watching!

[@qadeerahmad8227]

Noor Jahan: Happy ending to ho gayi but bechari Safeena ka birthday phir bhi reh gaya....first episode me bhi yahi hua uska birthday rah gaya or even last me bhi...😶😶😶😶😅😅

[@tayyabamehmood29]

In the teaser it was shown safeena blowing the cake but it was not shown in the episode don’t know why

[@planetgamerz3712]

Amna needs not to talk about religious matters because she knows nothing in this scenario.unke kahne se talaaq decide nhn hogi.

[@Mia-mi7mr]

Bro tameez

[@mrmoodymusa7629]

Bro where was the batameezi?

[@ambreenanwar8882]

The guy pointed out good point, she should stay away as she has very little knowledge.

[@LoveYourself.....]

Right, she shouldn't talk regarding religious issues.

[@sunflowerandsunset]

It is her channel!! and she can speak on it if you will have so much problem don't watch??

[@maryamawan5839]

In Canada, we take off our shoes before entering people's home. This applies to desi's as well as Canadians. It's understandable because of winter boots and slush when weather is bad. We have hardwood on our floors so we also leave a basket of house slippers at our front door. Most people respect the no outdoor shoe policy. There has been a ton of research on how dirty outdoor shoes can be and most people who allow it have dirt, germs and even fecal matter on their floors. Growing up in Pakistan, my parents also expected there guests to take off their outdoor shoes as my Dadi was a germaphobe and basically had COVID protocols embedded in our life since the 80's.

[@sidrakafeel9160]

Bilal is in competition with himself brilliant acting and sabeena also bought so much realism in Aliya she only wants love,care and respect because she was living in luxury at shabir house but without love and respect

[@cabeekafarooq9789]

The point is “3 Talaqs” to cut off your marriage ties either said once or one by one in 3 different times. Although, Islam supports the concept of saying single Talaq at a time so you have 2 options left and the sacred relation is not wasted all at once. (After saying one Talaq at one time, that woman has to go through Iddat period and during that there MUST be reconciliation -an intimate relation, if they both want to go back. Then, you have 2 options left, each time one Talaq, and every time, if they want to go back, they must reconcile .) As simple as that. I hope it helps.

[@ShManzar]

Beta ruju'u can be done after the first or second talaq. After third, no ruju'u is permitted even during iddat.

[@mariamzafar7648]

What the heck? The drama is clearly showing that divorce happened!! why are we trying to find ways to see even if the divorce was legit or not! 😳. They are showing how it is sooo freaking hard for a woman to go through whatever a woman gloves through after divorce. I love the drama , love that topic and I can’t believe why this drama didn’t get that many views

[@ritisnatanayak2]

Jafaa is Such a Roller Coaster ride, especially the Mawra's and Mohib's track...such an important message for girls,who come across such a situation in their life.....who can't get off from such marriages..... Once such clear portrayal was in the Mann mayal in gohar and Maya's case And being a child of a doctor myself,i know doctors don't have any personal life....i can guarantee it,i have seen my father

[@gicnusrat2734]

Mann Jogi- Valentine scene was so good the way Ibrahim gave flower to Aliya and express he like her and Aliya smile it was very heart warming scene .

[@mahwishzahra3547]

@@gicnusrat2734 I don't know why they both said that the scene was out of place.. the body language of Ibrahim was extremely in character and Aliya was came for Valentine dinner so she was looking according to that

[@gicnusrat2734]

​@@mahwishzahra3547they appreciate their performance but they are not happy with writing. They thought ibrahim and Aliya were looking too good also how in the earth they are still in Lahore . Aliya's friend found her in a restaurant. Shabir being a politician still couldn't find them.

[@mahwishzahra3547]

@@gicnusrat2734 it was a coincidence that she found them ... But says that ... K Valentina scene main who Bilal aur Sabreena lagay ... Ghalat yar... Totally character main thay

[@gicnusrat2734]

​@@mahwishzahra3547ji i agree with you here. Sometimes they overpraise sometimes they over criticise. 😅😅😅

[@mahwishzahra3547]

@@gicnusrat2734 😂😂.. exactly

[@nayyer8350]

MJ - Ibrahim said he was working 5 days at the call center and 2 days chuti. That’s why Alia was so sad as he had to stay at the call center

[@nkhan8933]

NJ: the whole scene on the terrace between Kubra and Ali Raza was brilliant, both actors did amazing.

[@nkhan8933]

Jafaa: omg I caught myself smiling ear to ear, how cute were the scenes between numair and deebo.😊

[@nkhan8933]

NJ: I was hoping Yasir Nawaz would have appeared in Nj’s dream and tell her off😂. For people who don’t know, the portrait of Yasir Nawaz was on the wall as Ikhtiar Shah.

[@haseeb320]

In the talaq thing, you can't really say that it's wrong in the plot since both concepts of talaq exist. It's like different people from different schools of thought have different ways of offering namaz. Similarly, both of the concepts of talaq are accepted by different people. I can disagree and have a different belief but the other belief also does exist.

[@theregale893]

It's not about the carpet, it's about first of all the culture of the country. I've lived in Australia for quite some time and it's their culture to remove shoes outside before entering the house regardless of the flooring. So as in China, Japan and Turkey I've heard it's the same culture. Second of all, it's about how particular the person is about the cleanliness of their house. But in Pakistan if we ask someone to remove their shoes before entering the house, they feel offended and insulted. I don't know why!!! If the host doesn't have any issue with you bringing the shoes inside then it's completely ok. It sometimes also happen that if you are removing your shoes outside when you visit someone they stop you from doing so saying Oh nai nai g, kuch nai hota . Aa jayein aise hi, and they don't let you remove your shoes outside.

[@MadamQue]

Yes Hassan is right. Carpet is when the entire room is carpeted whereas a rug is a piece for a smaller area.

[@arjumandbukhari8252]

Planned Halala is not allowed

[@ghazalamalik5233]

Hassan is right, even if you consider it one Talaq, if you don't reconcile, women is free to marry anyone.

[@theregale893]

Mann Jogi: I think whatever school of thought one believes in, the divorce has happened. If you believe 3=3 then there is no conversation left. And if you believe 3=1 then also it is finalized as the iddat has been completed (coz if you don't reconcile for the certain period of time, the second talaq occur automatically). She has spent her iddat without the reconciliation, that means talaq's procedure has been completed regardless of the school of thought one believes in.

[@ShManzar]

No beta, the second talaq doesn't occur automatically. But even after one talaq, after iddat is complete, the nikah is broken and can stay broken for life if the man or woman so choose

[@saarazamaana9678]

To me it was very clear that Numair was giving her time and did not want to be a rebound as well.

[@FatimaHussain-qd4rw]

Loved NJ ending.Saba Hameed was looking very stunning in last scene in red dress.

[@scarlettohara829]

Mann Jogi….why are you both thinking it’s out of place. Anita specifically told Sabina that Bilal needs to get more worldly wise. As for the office hours, it was mentioned that he’ll go home only on weekends. You guys miss stuff sometimes, and then fret about it in the reviews..🤣🤣🤣…understandable because your job is watching endless stuff. Love every thing about your programme, but most of all your banter.

[@nutanjd3710]

In southern India too shoes are supposed to be taken off outside.....carpet or no carpet. Oriental countries too, shoes are to be removed near the entrance and slip-ons are provided to be worn inside. Turkey too has similar practice. Every country.....every culture....every home has it's own practice.

[@1970nair]

Hasan and Aamna, as always i enjoy your reviews a lot! Its great to hear two different views, perspectives and opinions ftom you both. Noor Jehan was one fabulous show that for the first time ever i wished a show just kept going. But so glad they didnt drag it and kill the essence of the show, and the hardwork of the whole team in creating a show that is loved by millions and felt so close to our hearts. After listening to your review of the finale episode, i felt i needed to share my thoughts on a couple of points you mentioned. 1 - whether Noor Jehan really changed her ways or was it a ploy. No, and i agree with Aamna here. The letters she wrote to her sons were sincere, from a person who's remorseful of her actions, and from someone who clearly wants to redeem herself. 2 - Has her sons really returned home with their families for good or they just came for her b-day. Honestly i too thought like Hasan did, that they've returned back home seeing how much their mother regrets her actions, Hunaid in particular. Hunaid because of what he said to his mom holding her hands that when he was away, more than her food he missed her hands (by which he probably meant her 'protective hands' over him and his family) hence wants Insia to grow under her protection, in her arms. And then showing how NoorJehan was holding the baby and loving her and then the expression of peace on both Hunaid and Safeena's faces, looked like they realized Insia is now exactly where she should be. But Aamna's thoughts on this is also very possible. 3 - the time-line of events that Hasan pointed out that doesnt make sense because somewhere in the final episode he heard that all these events till date has transpired over a span of a year. He is absolutely right! I did hear that too. It was in the letter that Noor jehan wrote to Noor Bano in the end asking her to not keep animosity and vengeance and turn into another Noor jehan. In that letter she mentioned very clearly that "last year when i first saw you in Mukthiyar Shah's house, i found a way to execute my revenge plan against him" which means she met Noor Bano only a year ago. Then we can only assume it took a month or two for her to bring Noor Bano home as Murad's bride. So how come in such a short time, she got pregnant, had a baby and all. So for me too, the timing didnt make sense here. Thanks so much for your reviews and giving us viewers a space to express our thoughts and opinions as well!! You both are doing a great job!! Keep it up!!

[@ayeshak4996]

Regarding the issue of triple talaq, there are different schools of thought in Islam. Hanafi recognizes Triple Talaq but considers it sinful. Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali generally discourage or do not recognize the practice in the same manner as the Hanafi school. Supporters argue that Triple Talaq is a valid form of divorce under Islamic law and aligns with traditional practices. Critics contend that it undermines gender equality and women’s rights and goes against the spirit of reconciliation emphasized in Islamic teachings. Yet, saying that there is no talaq in case of triple talaq is wrong. Critics of triple talaq claim that no matter how many times one says the word 'talaq' at one time, it will be considered one talaq but they never say that there is no talaq at all. Instead, they say that one talaq has been given but there is a room for reconciliation two times. The next time when that person will say talaq, it will be second talaq, and the next time will be the third and final talaq. However, reconciliation is a necessity. In case of no reconciliation, after three menstrual cycles, the one talaq will be the final talaq. So, in this drama, first, Shabbir's mom clearly belongs to the school of thought that recognize triple talaq. However, regardless, no reconciliation with Shabbir has made the talaq valid for all school of thoughts.

[@asifafarooqi6417]

Amina needs to learn Islamic fiqha

[@ShManzar]

Which school of thought did RasulALLAH S.A.W belong to?

[@mxhsvn_b7866]

​@@ShManzar the school of thought where he told his ummah to follow the Quran and Ahlulbayt and everything they say

[@ShManzar]

@@mxhsvn_b7866 No, he didn't say ahlulbayt. He said the rightly guided khalifas. And only when satisfied that the command abides by the principles in the Qur'an and Sunnah.

[@mxhsvn_b7866]

@@ShManzar why are you lying or do you just refuse to read your own books? Both sahih muslim and tirmidhi explicitly state that he said I'm leaving behind two weighty things: the Quran and my Ahlulbayt. So are you brainwashed or uneducated?

[@ambreenjaffer187]

Removing shoes before entering any home might be a “cultural” thing but it’s also a better hygiene practice.. keep the germs out and remove shoes 😎

[@Anusha93472]

In the conclusion it was intended that only Hunaid might move back in when he says “Mein chahta hun insia apke hatho me bari ho” the rest are living separately

[@ayeshaasghar9205]

Jafaa: You guys had just over thought about Numair! It was so clear.that he was giving deepu space. Why would you take it to another madverse?

[@samrahmumtaz9469]

@ayeshaasghar9205 It's true that only these two see Numair in this light. If he really has problems, why didn't he walk away from Andaleep when he had the opportunity? Remember when his lawyer visited his house for the divorce he was really hesitant and didn't want to go inside when his servant told him about his lawyer. He has repeatedly expressed his desire to keep Andaleep in his life. He even got upset when Andaleep chose to be with Moiz. It's just that he comes across as a genuinely nice person who doesn't want to pressure Andaleep.

[@ayeshaasghar9205]

@@samrahmumtaz9469 exactly!

[@saarazamaana9678]

Only Hassan can deal with Amna, the banter is so one-sided most of the time...anybody else might not take it with a pinch of salt all the time...before anyone comes at me, I understand that this the equation they share and its all fun

[@Mia-ge7xf]

NOOR JAHAN could not have had a better ending in my opinion. Firstly, Noor Jahan was NEVER a bad person, she wasn't evil - sure she was cunning and wanted to get her way, wanted to control her sons for ulterior motives so she was manipulative but she was NOT evil/ she did not hurt people for the sake of hurting them maybe revenge and being stuck in old traumas - doesn't justify it but this is why i can believe she has changed because she wasn't even aware of the damage she was doing because of her own patriarchal mindset . Masterfully written and acted, the drama shows how it is important to change and then forgive if one has changed. Absolute classic

[@jiyacancer871]

42:00 طلاق ہو چکی ہے۔ مرد منہ سے ایک بار بولے چاہے سو بار بولے، طلاق تو ہو جاتی ہے۔ اس بات پہ کوئی اختلاف نہیں۔ اختلاف اس بات پر ہے کہ ایک وقت میں اگر تین بار طلاق دی جائے تو تین طلاق ہو گی یا ایک۔ طلاق کا شرعی طریقہ یہ ہے کہ ایک طلاق دی جائے پھر ایک مہینہ انتظار کیا جائے جس میں دونوں فریقین سوچیں اور رجوع کرنا چاہیں تو کر لیں۔ نہیں کرنا چاہیں تو مہینے بعد دوسری طلاق دی جائے اور پھر مہینے بعد تیسری اور آخری ۔ مگر جو ایسا نہیں کرتا اور ایک ہی وقت میں تین طلاقیں دے دیتا ہے اس کو گناہ ملے گا مگر کنفیوژن یہ آتی ہے کہ ایک طلاق ہوئی یا تین۔ نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے زمانے میں لوگ کسی بات کی اہمیت اجاگر کرنے کیلئے ایک بات کو تین بار دہراتے تھے۔ اس لیے اس زمانے میں جب لوگ طلاق دیتے تو نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ان سے پوچھتے کہ کیا نیت تھی۔ اگر وہ کہہ دیتے کہ ایک طلاق دینے کی نیت تھی صرف بولا تین بار ہے تو وہ ایک طلاق سمجھی جاتی تھی۔ بعد میں حضرت عمر کے دور میں لوگوں نے اسے مس یوز کرنا شروع کیا۔ تو انہوں نے قانون بنا لیا کہ اب سے ایک وقت میں تین طلاقیں دینے سے تینوں طلاقیں ہو جائیں گی۔ اور علماء نے اس پر اجتہاد کیا۔ یہ کچھ صدیوں بعد پھر سے مسئلہ اٹھایا گیا کہ نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے دور میں تو ایک وقت میں تین طلاقیں ایک شمار ہوتی تھیں تو بعد میں کیوں تین گنی جاتی ہیں۔

[@fatimaali881]

Pehli talaq dene ke baad rujuu karna lazim hai.. agar aisa nhi kiya tou sirf aik baar di gayi talaq hi final talaq samjhi jayegi aur miyan biwi ka rishta khatam hojayega.. Rujuu karne ke baad nikah tou barqarar rahega wo miyan biwi hi rahenge lekin unke beech pehli talaq khatam nhi hogi

[@ShManzar]

Well said

[@ShManzar]

​@@fatimaali881 correct

[@salwahchaudhry227]

Noor Jahan: about time duration in drama you guys are forgetting that safeena got pregnant twice and safeer married twice and had the baby from 2nd wife and then noor Bano got the baby so it’s not just one year its shown few years in the drama

[@marycan5064]

Thank you for pointing out the lapses in Maan jogi. It left me confused too 😕

[@shrishantikale3218]

Aamna, I agree, the talak situation in Mann Jogi is against some people's belief and could be unsettling for them. But, it is possible that people can have different belief, understanding or interpretation of the same thing. I think Kasif Nisaar is credible enough that he won't show a sensitive thing without doing enough research. I believe, he does have reasons to show it this way.

[@fatimaali881]

Even in Meri zaat zarra e benishan ( written by umera Ahmed) Aarfeen ( Faisal qureshi) gave three talaq (not in anger) in one go to Saba ( Sania Mumtaz) in the presence of whole family

[@ShManzar]

In this case, both Kashif and Zafar have not done the homework

[@aasthaanand9091]

In India also there is this thing that you have to take off shoes even there is no wall to wall carpet 5:12 🇮🇳

[@sehrrana1083]

Noor Jahan Aunty still didn’t celebrate Safeena’s birthday along with hers. 😂😂😂

[@Shortsking-d2r]

Noor Jahan:1:15 , They show the written timeline Hassan and Amna " Kuch mahenay baad, phir aik din(referring to salgira Wala din of Noor Jahan) 1:19, Hassan you are very much right ,I know a family where a mother in law does the same, she pretend to change and then after certain period of time,goes back to her real character.aur log asa hi karty Hain,human nature never change, it only does get disguised .

[@shivetaraina2455]

Noor Jahan: After a very long time some drama series has ended on a very positive note. Appreciate that the drama did not show her going mad or sitting on a mazzar lonely at or dying alone at the end.

[@uzmamaroof3290]

Tripple talaaq is talaaq in hanafi fiqh, and that’s the most dominant fiqh in Pakistan!

[@HibaF-il4hh]

Do ur research

[@ambreenanwar8882]

There is confusion so some believe 3 talaq at once or 3 over the period of 3 menstruation cycle. The mustahib way is over 3 cycles.

[@banchan9oo]

​@@ambreenanwar8882 exactly but if one doesn't follow the masnoon way of giving talaq to hum sunni sect mein 3 ko 3 hi mantay hain. Aur kafi sunni ulma ka is par ittefaq hai.

[@ambreenanwar8882]

@@banchan9oo gee lakin humay manana uss tareeqay ko chahiya jo Quran mai hai, iss tarha buhat saray divorce cases na hoon aur yahi maqsad bhi hai iss ka.

[@ShManzar]

Which fiqh did RasulALLAH S.A.W follow?

[@toobarafi9393]

Noor Jahan - She absolutely changed in the end! Referencing your very own discussion about a previous episode of the drama, Noor Jahan is manipulating, malicious, and self-serving, but she is NOT a criminal. Of course, she could never poison her kids. Nor could she put on a facade with Hunaind's daughter. Remember she is the same woman who couldn't even pretend to be civil to the kid when Hunaid was leaving. I loved the end!