Did Re-Gearing My Jeep Gladiator Affect the GAS MILEAGE?

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TrailRecon

TrailRecon

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@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't mentioned in the video, but yes I did recalibrate my speedometer to compensate for both the tire size and gear ratio. As for why I chose 5:13's, I think 4.88 is a good ratio to go with for a 38" tire, but because I carry extra gear and plan on doing some off-road towing I wanted to go slightly deeper, and that's why I chose 5:13'. Sorry for not explaining that in the video.
@robertkeck2905
@robertkeck2905 4 жыл бұрын
TrailRecon I am concerned if the slight increased rpm (4:88) will move it up the horsepower curve enough to still pull 8th gear at interstate speed (75 mph). I realize I am on the verge of asking to much. You did confirm you see 8th a lot more with gear swap.
@michaelnewman89
@michaelnewman89 4 жыл бұрын
What’s your rpm at 70mph in 8th gear ?
@PhilGBeebe
@PhilGBeebe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering my question before I could ask it.
@brianmillican4985
@brianmillican4985 4 жыл бұрын
What did you use to recalibrate your speedo?
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR
@JeepGladiatorestAprilJTR 4 жыл бұрын
I’m currently running 37 Pats, would you recommend 5:13s if I plan on building my rig similarly to yours as far as weight is concerned? Thanks Master Chief!🤙🏽
@MarcoPollo77
@MarcoPollo77 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent format. The tech talk, the motor noise, cruising backroads, scenic stops. More like this please?
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@marnielarocque9412
@marnielarocque9412 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, gentlemen, I am so impressed that i subscribed, I`m an old disabled mechanics and over the years explained or at least tried with some guys to explain what happens with bigger tires and gearing, and then of course, braking and shocks, so many other sites just add tires and never explain the changes in bottom end performance versus top end and real-life changes. Well done!
@expert244
@expert244 4 жыл бұрын
The MPG gain wasn’t super impressive, however the increase in MPG PLUS the extra low end power is a win IMO.
@rareearthfab5511
@rareearthfab5511 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job Brad! I do a lot of gears for people and explaining what you have found in this video people don’t believe me. Not only do you pick up a little mileage but it’s so much more fun to drive a properly geared 4x4 on or off road.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great to hear you are seeing similar result!
@MattsCollection
@MattsCollection 4 жыл бұрын
The added weight of the breakfast burritos has made this test invalid! :D
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@tjshine8022
@tjshine8022 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I called it at 17.2mpg! On my 96 Chevy, 350 AT, 35" BFG's and 6" lift I went 3.73 to 4.56 gears and went from 17mpg to 18mpg on the highway. But City went from 13 to 15 because the lower gears made it easier on the engine to get to speed. Gears will help your engine and mileage, it may just take a few years of driving to make up the $2,000 price of them. Great study!
@xTinBenderX
@xTinBenderX 4 жыл бұрын
Had a 26' Penske loaded and towing my CJ7 on a trailer. The truck's rear tire developed a bad vibration over 50 so I had to drive from LA to OKC doing 50. I got 8 mpg before the vibration and 16 mpg after. Lesson learned about pushing air.
@michaelhalstead64
@michaelhalstead64 4 жыл бұрын
Hey brad. Having had both 4.88 and 5.13 gears, which would you recommend for a daily driver? Is there that much of a difference? How do they compare on the interstate?
@built4xploration253
@built4xploration253 4 жыл бұрын
Was cool seeing my old stomping grounds. The tower ( really the caves) holds a special memory for my wife and I. Oh, and holy crap, I cant believe 87 is $4.03!!!! I am reminded of one of the reasons I fled CA.
@roguejk1236
@roguejk1236 4 жыл бұрын
I choose the "ignorance is bliss" method of calculating my jeeps mileage. Turned off the mpg thing on the dash, it was just too damn depressing. Still won't drive anything else though!
@jeepwrecognizejeep1391
@jeepwrecognizejeep1391 4 жыл бұрын
There's a fine line between making a KZbin channel successful and selling out. Where does one draw that line and find that balance? Started from scratch and as a channel grows the more sponsors it attracts. The more sponsors one gets, the more it starts to look like an infomercial, biased and unorganic. Then along comes the haters and trolls. How does one know where to draw the line before their channel gets too big to the point where the content becomes unrelatable to the average Jeeper?
@ensignwiggles87
@ensignwiggles87 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Brad! Very informative and even entertaining for what can be a dry subject. Your co-host did a great job too, I hope you do more videos with him in the future!
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Ryan is a great guy and here is a video discussion we did when we were on the trail in Alaska you might enjoy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6XIXoehh8Z2jqs
@shadteague4262
@shadteague4262 4 жыл бұрын
I’d be celebrating 1 MPG at those prices! Crazy!!
@WTFSoCal
@WTFSoCal 4 жыл бұрын
this is exactly opposite of what most people tell you, great to hear man ! 488"s here I come ! (on my JLUR on 37s) thanks Brad, great video man !
@terrywaters6186
@terrywaters6186 4 жыл бұрын
The 8 speed changes everything.
@GSXRKLLR
@GSXRKLLR 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about going 5.13's on my JLUR also on 37's. I would love the low end punch, going from 4.10 to 4.88 just doesn't seem like it would be worth it.
@WTFSoCal
@WTFSoCal 4 жыл бұрын
@@GSXRKLLR in 4 low it would be way to low for me with out a throttle comp....
@robpedrow9293
@robpedrow9293 4 жыл бұрын
Great video with some good conversation about all the things that can go into ruining or increasing your gas mileage. I think people don't realize how big a difference regearing can make when you jump more than a couple inches in tire size from factory. One of the first things I do to my vehicles now that get more than a small bump in tire height.
@mariodesmo
@mariodesmo 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be willing to bet that the lights and the roof top tent are each worth another 1 to 1 1/2 MPG . Bringing you up to that elusive 20 MPG!
@miwuksniper
@miwuksniper 4 жыл бұрын
I just put gears in my Jeep by fearless gears in Fresno Ca!! I’m running 33’s but going to run 35’s. Just deleted the front fenders and put on a few things. Next is a winch and a rear part time locker. I believe I’ll have my Jeep tj 4.0 ready!!! I’m pumped
@billp5424
@billp5424 4 жыл бұрын
There used to be a cooking on your engine cook book called Manifold Destiny.
@roncameron9541
@roncameron9541 4 жыл бұрын
What a shock to me that you improved your gas mileage! Back in 1969 I had a Z28 Camaro and put 538's in it. Gas mileage went way south! Made the mistake of driving it from Okla to Indianapolis once. Gas was like 32 cents but I was only making 2 bucks an hour. It got to 60 really quickly though! :)) I know the situations are different and tech is different, etc etc, but I was still surprised at your gas mileage improvement.
@bertvanderzon1048
@bertvanderzon1048 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see some home turf every now and then! I never knew about the truck museum, but now I’ll have to check that out.
@jasonveldhuis9471
@jasonveldhuis9471 Жыл бұрын
In 01 I bought a new gutless 1500 ram 4x4 with a 360 magnum engine. 3.55 gears got 11 mpg max. Tranny blew at 20k, factory reman.Put 33” tires on and got 9 mpg and more gutless. Blew the tranny at 40k. Put 4.10 gears in with a hand built tranny and got 12 mpg, more if it was unloaded and I milked it. Even when it was all stock, it struggled to stay in 4th gear. The 4.10 gears were way better and the transmission lasted another 200k when I sold it for scrap because I live in Michigan and the salt ate it up. I did sell the transmission to a friend of mine who put it in his plow truck and ran it for another few years. I still should’ve went with 4.56 gears though. Those 360 magnums were worthless!!!
@gogerwi
@gogerwi 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Brad. It's going to be very interesting to see how a comparably equipped diesel version will do if Jeep ever makes it happen.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
I'm hearing the Wrangler diesel is going to blow the mpg I'm getting out of the water!
@BackroadExploration
@BackroadExploration 4 жыл бұрын
Love your Gladiator build! Impressed with the MPGs you are getting. I’m getting around 17 on the Highway in my JK. But average around 15 on all around driving including Overlanding trips.
@JustNobodyButME
@JustNobodyButME 4 жыл бұрын
The question will be,"will the mpg on the diesel make up for the increase in cost per gallon?" Of course the diesel engine will outlast a gasoline engine by a long shot and have better overall performance and for those reasons I would go diesel every time.
@45auto
@45auto 4 жыл бұрын
My question is how will it take to recoup the additional cost of the diesel engine? Obviously, the cost per gallon is the big factor but how many gallons? There has to be a math whiz out there who can figure that out for us Liberal Arts majors.😀
@gogerwi
@gogerwi 4 жыл бұрын
I've owned 7 Jeeps, all just minimally powered. The diesel is a $4000 option on the Wrangler and diesel cost .40 more than gas. For my personal satisfaction and driving pleasure I will pay the extra cost regardless. Life is short and you can't take it with you.
@mikehoffman3690
@mikehoffman3690 4 жыл бұрын
Modest gain in mpg. Cannot use that as justification to regear but other benefits still make it a worthwhile mod. 👍
@ronkreed
@ronkreed 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize you were in S.D. county. I recognize all the areas on your drive. Grew up in El Cajon. All my family is still there. Left CA about 30 years ago for a National Park Service career. Been in Moab that past 20 years. Love your videos.
@mssammielowe
@mssammielowe 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding content Brad! I think the more you skinny down the items sticking out the sides and top will help.. I seldom get my JT in 8th gear, and I’m on stock 4.10 and stock 33’s I get about 18 mpg around town and close to 21 freeway.. I’m from California and still travel there quite a bit.. I freak out over the price of gas, and many other “California” issues.. $2.66 in Colorado for 87.. We have been as low as $1.89 for 85.. Again, probably one of your most informative vids..
@gregchiropolos9885
@gregchiropolos9885 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s pretty good gas mileage for your truck. I only get 10.5 mpg in my CJ5 with an AMC 401 V8 with 33s. But she sure is fun to drive around and sounds awesome 😎
@xtransam9970
@xtransam9970 3 жыл бұрын
Great job well done, the smile, and test driving after completing the project, priceless
@kjpellas6606
@kjpellas6606 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this channel , I cannot wait to get myself back into a jeep, I made the mistake of selling my xj, oh boy never again will I ever do that...
@wescourtney1510
@wescourtney1510 4 жыл бұрын
2008 JKUR.. Dealer had put 35's on it already w/2.5"lift. Stock gears were the 4.10's. Pulling a trailer at 70 mph on the hiway, only time it would get out of 2nd gear was downhill. I went to 5.38's (also cryo-dipped them) and I at least stay in 3rd now. W/O trailer, even the OD stays in better. Ya, is the 3.8. But my mpg did come up too.. Varies on what I do, but 1~2 range is common. And yes, I is much more spunky both on street, and crawls crazy great.. Thou, off road, I have use the programmer to set to crawl mode. Too jumpy if don't.. Hiway mpg.. Around 15±. Have been into the 16's under ideal conditions a couple of times. 12.5~13 common around town. All is better then with the stock gears.. 63k on it currently. Gears were put in at 10k.
@BenandBrandi
@BenandBrandi 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job Brad! love the wrap on your Glad! hope you leave it on..
@kennrymdeko6489
@kennrymdeko6489 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of regearing. I regeared my 2017 Tacoma DCLB auto this year and finally found 6th gear! MPG improved by approximately 3 mpg overall since it could finally find cruising gear. And the transmission hunt finally stopped too. Great video Brad.
@kennrymdeko6489
@kennrymdeko6489 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, forgot to mention that I didnt recalibrate the speedo. So probably increased MPG a little more. Just running 33's tho.
@jasonbanuelos7569
@jasonbanuelos7569 4 жыл бұрын
What did you regear to since I also have a 2017 taco?
@marcnunes6916
@marcnunes6916 2 жыл бұрын
Gladiator Mojave 6-sp Manual I get 17-18 city 19-24 hwy. Keep it under 2200 rpms the 3.6 is amazing considering this is a lifted truck on 33 mud terrain tires. My friends taco only get 16 with 275 all terrain tires. I will do a video on this later.
@prescottlederer3761
@prescottlederer3761 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Brad! You were going to discuss why you choose the 5.13 over the 4.88 or 5.38 gear ratio? Short answer?
@robertkeck2905
@robertkeck2905 4 жыл бұрын
Prescott Lederer also want to know as 4:88 puts it closer the factory ratio.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
I think 4.88 is a good ratio to go with for 38's, but because I carry a lot of gear and I will be doing some off-road towing I wanted to with a slightly deeper gear, so that's why I chose 5:13's. Sorry for not explaining that in the video.
@4bnewb969
@4bnewb969 4 жыл бұрын
Hi brad Thanks for posting this; an interesting topic and nice adjunct to most off-road videos. Whilst your discussion centered around Wrangler and Gladiator, re-gearing and its results would equally applicable to other 4wd’s. I am chuckling at all the comments being posted about fuel prices you are paying. Here in Australia, A$1.50 per liter is an average. By my rough calcs that is around US$4.09 a US gallon, so feeling your ‘pain’. .....Cheers from Downunder
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My Wrangler saw a slight drop in fuel economy when I re-geared it, but an improvement in drivability, but it only has a 5 speed transmission. Different results for different model vehicles.
@balmasi1
@balmasi1 4 жыл бұрын
What was the rough cost on the parts and installation? Curious from a payback point of view on the fuel savings.
@daveputman4402
@daveputman4402 4 жыл бұрын
The next time you are in a gas station, look at the nozzle on the hose, you will see a 1/4 inch tube in there, because of CA emmissions, that tube is designed to suck the gas back out to keep it from going into the atmosphere or on the ground. Every time you click the handle after the auto shut off you are putting gas back into the ground tanks of the station
@dean0233
@dean0233 4 жыл бұрын
Great content! Now I just have to trade my Caddy for a Gladiator!
@sandralutz-rodriguez2864
@sandralutz-rodriguez2864 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brad and Ryan! What a cool comparison!
@toboles
@toboles 4 жыл бұрын
I was watching this video and noticed you came through Campo. I’m a Navy CEC Officer and oversee the facilities and utilities for the two camps out there. Was cool to see the route. Wasn’t expecting that. Very informative video btw.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service! #gonavy
@vitale6633
@vitale6633 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Brad. Liked the side excursions - Now I need to check out the Desert Tower, Epic Breakfast Burritos and the Campo Motor Transport Museum :)
@thedeserttrek23
@thedeserttrek23 4 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome and interesting video!! So cool to hear all the technical details about what y'all did. Not many people understand how it works. Keep those coming!! Thanks Brad!!
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jacman619
@jacman619 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video and discussion Brad and Ryan. Thanks for sharing once again. I’ll have to check out Ryan’s shop the next time I need some upgrades done. BTW... I fill up at that same gas station and yes, fuel prices in Ca are terrible. 😒
@drtstar1
@drtstar1 4 жыл бұрын
Jac Man the 4wpengineering technology center is like the bat cave. Not very many people know where it is. Lol but, we do have 96 retail stores all over North America that can help you.
@ralfhiller9043
@ralfhiller9043 4 жыл бұрын
Still half of what you pay in Europe
@jacman619
@jacman619 4 жыл бұрын
drtstar1 - Thanks for the reply. I can be a bit slow sometimes but I finally figured out which 96 stores you’re referring to. Lol In fact, I’ve done plenty of business with the El Cajon store and almost as much with the Chula Vista store. Not to forget the annual visits to the Off Road Expo in Pomona. Always upgrading and now Brad has me thinking about getting a Gladiator! 🤔
@TheBeddoeFamily
@TheBeddoeFamily 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll take a real-world test over a closed course any day. But I’m dying to see more trail videos. That’s what I signed up for in the first place. ;). Show us more of that Gladiator in the snow.
@byronbrasher8118
@byronbrasher8118 4 жыл бұрын
As a general rule, to stay safe you should pace yourself, not overexert, rest often, drink plenty of water and eat regularly throughout your hike. There are, however, some specific injuries and afflictions that you need to be aware of so that you can deal with them.
@MrMrsuperduper
@MrMrsuperduper 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've never seen over $4 per gallon before, heard about it but never on a gas pump. Paid $2.39 today.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
I wish we had $2.39!!!
@whoeever
@whoeever 4 жыл бұрын
Iran just attacked the US base so everybody is going to see over $4 gas real soon.
@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999
@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999 4 жыл бұрын
@@whoeever doubt it but I bet Iran see $40.00/gallon. I might have to work an extra overtime day per month though. 😁😁😁
@Vysnia4
@Vysnia4 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999 that costco membership does wonders :D
@dstallard5673
@dstallard5673 4 жыл бұрын
$2.29 where I'm parked at here in South Carolina
@stevend9124
@stevend9124 4 жыл бұрын
I cringe every time I gas up. I filled up twice in three months. Holllidays were expensive this year oh well. Good information as always 😀😀😀😀
@R281
@R281 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. I want that lifestyle.
@ninjagaming2036
@ninjagaming2036 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your content brother. I am currently overseas saving up for a wrangler jk and your videos provide great insight to the off roading world. You for sure earned another sub and I cannot wait to go back home and hit the mountains with some friends and family! Also, it is killing me to try some of Marcos food, that man is a champ!
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MikeCurtis7663
@MikeCurtis7663 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the 8th gear issue with my JLU Sport S when I put 35s on it. I don’t believe my stock diff can do the 4.88s that I really need. So, now I need to be thinking about replacement axle! Ah, the Jeep life!
@renaissancepoet
@renaissancepoet 4 жыл бұрын
Those old trucks at the Motor Transport Museum look wicked cool!
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
It was a great stop, I think I'll be going back!
@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999
@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy how my 06 Toyota 'V8' Sequoia gets better MPG than your original gears. Now you're getting about what I get now in 20°F weather. I like both vehicles though.
@johnnyverano1373
@johnnyverano1373 2 жыл бұрын
BRAD!!! You never been to the desert tower before? 😮 I moved to Texas and haven’t seen that area in over 30 years. Brought back good memories. ❤️
@karmicforce01
@karmicforce01 3 жыл бұрын
Just regeared my Gladiator with 37 with 5.13 set. I am in the break in period but already can tell that the truck is much happier. It shifts through gears faster and D8 is now the norm.
@tylercoleman2460
@tylercoleman2460 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of fuel mileage you getting with that setup and what size lift?
@karmicforce01
@karmicforce01 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylercoleman2460 Honestly 14-15 mpg. I drive most times on the highway at 75-80 mph and have a 30 mile commute daily. IF you drive slower, you should cut into 17-18s. I just had a 3.5 in Teraflex lift installed (went from the AEV spacer lift setup I had originally.
@tomk5047
@tomk5047 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how some people will argue about gear changes, once you understand the concept you'll never look back.
@7sinscustoms
@7sinscustoms 4 жыл бұрын
The iDRIVE throttle controller has greatly increased by fuel mileage on my lifted with 38s 2014 JKU by using the E-1-9 mode, it softens the throttle, and it increases my mileage to better than factory predictions, but then I can go to u mode and have lots of throttle.
@johndiaz7240
@johndiaz7240 4 жыл бұрын
Good info thanks , killer old Chevy.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
It's an awesome K5!
@sandralutz-rodriguez2864
@sandralutz-rodriguez2864 3 жыл бұрын
re-gearing has been hands done one of the best upgrades ever. We got the Jeep with 35" and it always lost power uphill. Still breaking in the new 4.88 but it is exceptionally noticeable the already better MPG in slow driving around town and it feels stronger.
@SirThriveMC
@SirThriveMC Жыл бұрын
😢😅😊😊 2:06 😅
@SirThriveMC
@SirThriveMC Жыл бұрын
2:06 2:06 🎉😊 2:06 2:06 😅😅😅😅
@SirThriveMC
@SirThriveMC Жыл бұрын
😢😊 4:04 😊😅😊😅😊😅 4:04 4:04
@SirThriveMC
@SirThriveMC Жыл бұрын
😊😊 4:04
@wardperozuk2288
@wardperozuk2288 4 жыл бұрын
I am wondering what the change will be when you go low pro on the tent? Let’s face it, there is a ton of gear on the rig and to be honest.......you didn’t buy it for the gas mileage! Thanks for the video and if I ever get to California again, I want a breakfast burrito like that!!
@terrywaters6186
@terrywaters6186 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this test repeated after removing the tent, rack and lights.
@Crumb_Trails
@Crumb_Trails Жыл бұрын
On my JKU I ran 5.38 on 37s. That thing went about anywhere. I test drive a JT Overland on 37s yesterday and it drive well but didn't have gears done. It wouldn't back over a curb until I put it in 4lo and it struggled then. I'm really thinking about the Gladiator but now I'm trying to figure out the payload issue.
@jakobwest4811
@jakobwest4811 4 жыл бұрын
So this was already with the 38s? Makes sense that the MPG got better. Engine was very bogged down at higher gears and stayed at way lower gears.
@mjongsma64
@mjongsma64 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brad, Thanks for this video! Great information. I have a 2017 jkur with 2.5” lift and 35’s running 373’s. I love this video and decided to look into a gear swap to 456 or 488. I live in CO and prices are all over the map, as low as 1250 up to over 3000. Are there any questions I should be asking? I think I you said a gear swap should be around 1200-1500. Thanks for your time! Love the channel
@chrisb8192
@chrisb8192 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad - I’ve been waiting on a video about re-gearing the Gladiator! How many hours labor did that take? I imagine it’s expensive. Also does it void the manufacturer warranty on the drivetrain?
@photoapeal
@photoapeal 3 жыл бұрын
I was told that it does not void the manufactures warranty when doing a lift & regear. There was some sort of landmark case that made it possible to retain the manufactures warranty & they can't drop you for it. I could have been lied by my Jeep shop you never know but this was what I was told. From an internet search: Regearing does not void your warranty, BUT don't expect a Jeep dealer to fix any issues with gears that failed. The replacement parts would be your responsibility to get from aftermarket manufacturer.
@austincableguy
@austincableguy 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh....those California gas prices are brutal! Come to Texas it's bouncing between $2.05 - $2.25 where I am.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Very brutal!
@frankly.everything
@frankly.everything 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I love this channel. That little extra that you give to add some real-world examples/results of the modifications. Lab specs are great for comparing products but being able to see what the product will do for you on your rig is something that is hugely missed by many. Nicely done and thank you!
@PaulCatalani
@PaulCatalani 4 жыл бұрын
Brad, great video. Did you update the Gladiator's computer with the new tire size and gear ratio?
@Down2Mob
@Down2Mob 4 жыл бұрын
awesome video brad!!
@paulcook773
@paulcook773 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Brad. That took a lot of work! Thanks for continuing to add the best Jeep content our there!
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We had fun filming it!
@jeepdogjl8687
@jeepdogjl8687 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how many RPM's your turning at 65mph. My 2dr JL with a 6spd manual and 3.45 gears on 35-inch tires turns 1500 RPM at 65mph. I usually stay in 5th gear on the highway because I'll lose speed going up grades. I do average 21mpg. I'm planning on upgrading to Rubicon axles. I think the 4:10 gears would work well with 35's.
@drtstar1
@drtstar1 4 жыл бұрын
Jeepdog JL 4.10 or 4.27 is a great choice for 35”s
@mik3ramo5
@mik3ramo5 4 жыл бұрын
Once again another great video. I'd love to see how much more improvement you'll get once you address some of the areo or weight. Keep it up Brad!!
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Might be an excuse for another road trip and burrito!
@quatre0492
@quatre0492 4 жыл бұрын
I would challenge you to get your tent mounted below your hardtop top and see what your mpg would be. Either a half rack or mounted to crossbars on the oem bed rails
@jrjon738
@jrjon738 4 жыл бұрын
I love the tech talks!
@Jonathan-qb9qy
@Jonathan-qb9qy 4 жыл бұрын
I've always seen that tower and UFO's going to and from the desert, but never stopped and checked it out. Pretty cool to hear the story of the tower.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
This was my first time and I've also driven past it 100 times... glad we stopped.
@corksauve4949
@corksauve4949 4 жыл бұрын
I've been to that tower! On our way to San Diego from Tucson. Even did some rockhounding in the area. That area made my wife a little uneasy, so of course I want to stop there every time we go by it. lol
@scottsnyder8691
@scottsnyder8691 3 жыл бұрын
That burrito place is awesome and I stop there every time I’m in the area. In fact I just had the chorizo burrito yesterday!
@BillyTpower
@BillyTpower 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brad great video, just wondering how long do you realistically think it will take the money saved by the improved mpg to pay for the parts and labor to re-gear? It's always those kinds of things that help me make decisions. Help out a new jeeper and member of the TR team by answering
@Silver_sen7inel
@Silver_sen7inel 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if you and Ryan gave any consideration to tooth engagement on 5.13 v. 4.88; I've been told the pinion gets pretty small on 5.13 with like only one full tooth of engagement on Dana 44. It is something I've been struggling with as I do not have the 4:1 transfer case, 2.72:1 I think is ratio. 5.13 might make crawling a bit better. So before I put lockers and gears in my open diffs of my JT I would be interested to hear what you and Ryan's thoughts are
@drtstar1
@drtstar1 4 жыл бұрын
harley rice you make good point! If you are going to thrash your axles with big horsepower don’t drop below 4.56 . All the new vehicles put securities in place to keep you from breaking the tiny 1st gear in the transmission. So that helps a bunch protect the ring and pinions. Check out the ratio chart on G2’s website and that will give you an idea of what gears will fit your application and tire size best.
@Silver_sen7inel
@Silver_sen7inel 4 жыл бұрын
@@drtstar1 -as chance would have it, that ratio chart on G2 web site kicks to a non-domain... if I'm clicking the right link... anyway what are your thoughts regarding the higher transfer case gearing and 4.88 / 5.13's? BTW thanks for all you guys do!
@drtstar1
@drtstar1 4 жыл бұрын
harley rice modern crawl ratios are respectable these days starting in the 60/1 range factory. You can’t go wrong with lower ratios. When you pick your gears be thinking were your build will go in the future. 37’s today? 40’s 3 years from now? I tend to caution to the lower ratio if I’m at a crossroad about it. Hope that helps
@Silver_sen7inel
@Silver_sen7inel 4 жыл бұрын
@@drtstar1 - it certainly does! My intention is to go to 39's and your video with Brad utilizing 5.13 makes me a bit more comfortable that i will not be to low geared for highway and daily driving but in a good spot with the 2.72 Tcase for crawling... thank you again!
@steamman9193
@steamman9193 4 жыл бұрын
I’m still not sold on the need to re gear with the 8 speed. 2,000rpm at 75mph it doesn’t matter what gear your in. I’ve found speed is so critical with these trucks JT at 40mph I get 23mpg on 33s with 3:73 at 80mph 19mpg. Temperature, humidity, altitude all have an impact- they were wearing jackets in the 2nd test cooler dense air yields better combustion.
@karmicforce01
@karmicforce01 3 жыл бұрын
Well you are running 33. Gearing only makes sense when you go to 35, 37 or even greater.
@ati573
@ati573 4 жыл бұрын
This video was perfect, ty. Just the I do I was looking for. Keep up the great vlogs
@sketchyjeep6751
@sketchyjeep6751 4 жыл бұрын
Brad for skinny guy you're always eating :D
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
LOL! I'm thankful for a healthy metabolism!
@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999
@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrailRecon you have places to burn it off out there . . . unlike the miserable North East rust belt 😁😁😁
@JeepTherapy
@JeepTherapy 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the whole point of off-roading!!!!!
@markarnaldo2741
@markarnaldo2741 6 ай бұрын
Which spot would you choose to get you Jeep re-geared? This place or Rebel Off Road? I’ve watch both of your videos and I’m planning on getting this done to my JL.
@VJStroud
@VJStroud 4 жыл бұрын
So much knowledge, keep it up with the great content.
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@miwuksniper
@miwuksniper 4 жыл бұрын
You guys inspired me to do this work btw!! It was stock for a long time!! I put money into my diesel and house! Side note (The wife loves it) haha
@rickfeemster2387
@rickfeemster2387 4 жыл бұрын
Ok great video but man the only thing I wanted more of was the old k5 blazer parked next to u, I grew up with the old k5 and had 3 of them including a 72 that was same color as this one
@drtstar1
@drtstar1 4 жыл бұрын
Rick Feemster I bet you could talk @trailrecon into a walk around vid on that K5
@TrailRecon
@TrailRecon 4 жыл бұрын
We may have something in the works!
@SPMech
@SPMech 4 жыл бұрын
So here in the United Kingdom, A gallon of Petrol(gas) is the equivalent to $7.86. hence why we all use diesel, I get roughly 27MPG in my Defender 110 with roof tent, awning, winch and all the gear loaded up, on 33s (equivelalent here)
@wibornz
@wibornz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. My JLUR is getting 5.13 in five days. Can't wait. Like you, my Jeep almost never sees 8th gear.
@JustNobodyButME
@JustNobodyButME 4 жыл бұрын
That just means you're not driving it fast enough. Go faster lol
@mathewmue5547
@mathewmue5547 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ted, any info on your build? I'm thinking about 5.13 vs 4.88... 2020 jtr
@wibornz
@wibornz 4 жыл бұрын
@@mathewmue5547 I just came home from a 5834 mile wheeling trip. Pulled a small camper. Did 8 days in Mab, then the Rubicon trail, then trails in Wyoming and back to Michigan. Avg 14.5 mog pulling the camper plus off road driving. I get about 18 to 19 on the hyw for normal driving and 15 around town. I see 8th gear all the time even pulling the camper. 8th gear in town above 45 mph. 5.13 gears and never look back. The 5.13 gears are perfect with the 8 speed auto.
@wibornz
@wibornz 4 жыл бұрын
@@mathewmue5547 I am lifted with 37s on bead lock wheels, winch. Big bumpers, the heavy stuff.
@mathewmue5547
@mathewmue5547 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a silly question, but doesn't that worry you that it blows your factory warranty out of the water?
@travismcvey
@travismcvey 4 жыл бұрын
You'll really notice the mpg improvement @ lower speeds from the regear. That rack kills your highway mpg. I had a huge roof rack on one of my XJs, and it literally got better mpg in town that it did on the highway.
@FrancoisTX1974
@FrancoisTX1974 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, the most impressive was price of the gas.....2$ per gallon in Texas....
@GoldenK9Campers
@GoldenK9Campers 4 ай бұрын
Cool video. Better acceleration and better gas mileage. Win/Win.. You had to reprogram everything for the gears and the tires? Also, there was a difference between the computer and the real gas used on the 1st test, what about the 2nd test?
@crjmoto
@crjmoto 4 жыл бұрын
Cool comparo. I swear I can see the needle dropping on my FJ (16-19 mpg, live in not-flat CO)
@nodoze
@nodoze 4 жыл бұрын
$4/gal for 87???? Yeah, I'd be worried about MPG if I lived there too.
@monsterpoo
@monsterpoo 4 жыл бұрын
that's because it is socialist run commie-california... here in liberty capitalist run FL its 2.20/gal .... socialist arent good with money
@stevenjaclynsleight983
@stevenjaclynsleight983 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent content as always! Now that you’ve “slimmed down” your gladiator profile with the new rack and hard shelled rtt, have you seen an even bigger increase in fuel economy?
@Sthilboy56
@Sthilboy56 4 жыл бұрын
Your so lucky with gas prices , around $8 per gallon equivalent over the pond in the UK
@mjongsma64
@mjongsma64 4 жыл бұрын
Good info I can use as ammunition when I need to upgrade gears. I have JKUR with 3.73 running 35's. I don't know anything different as this my first Wrangler and it's the way it came. Now to decide what gears? Do you think the 4.56 0r 4.88 will have a negative impact on freeway mileage?
@drtstar1
@drtstar1 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Jongsma 4.56 is a pretty popular swap with 35’s. If you are still looking for mileage then stay on the 4.27 side of gearing. If you want extreme crawler gears go 4.88
@nachovalenti
@nachovalenti 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video Brad. Thanks for sharing.
@RandomeXits
@RandomeXits 2 жыл бұрын
I free wheel on long downhills. Got 20 mpg one time from Donner to Colfax.
@dame5014
@dame5014 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize bigger tires have such a negative effect on mpg. How it it possible that it has a negative impact on breaking? The size of the rotors aren't changing, just the height of the truck. I mean, the r..... Hold up, I just realized it lmao. NVM. It make sense to me now
@mariodelai624
@mariodelai624 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky you guys in the USA, fuel prices are ridiculous in there
@OCMortgageExperts
@OCMortgageExperts 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing how the Diesel version of the Gladiator does in a similar test
@wildthingsgarage
@wildthingsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent little test! It's nice to see real world tests for stuff like gear upgrades. I'm curious, do you have stock, or aftermarket lockers? How much would lockers affect gas mileage? Thanks for the great content!
@gregsheridan
@gregsheridan 4 жыл бұрын
Brad, you are talking about 16-17.2 MPG in the video but your math and captions actually show 15.2-17.1 MPG which is 12.5% improvement! Very impressive with the weight and lack of aerodynamics.
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