Did Riot Reveal Sett's Father?

[@kledboi]

In samira's level up you can see her running after the old timer, she's collecting the debt from him

[@kujojotarostandoceanman2641]

The dad gone with milk 💀

[@gexianhen]

yeah you can eve see a wanted poster of the old timer at the start of the animation... how necrit missed this?

[@More_tefi]

And probably, the invitation that was stolen by Pocket Picker (Jack's crew) is his. He basically wants to challenge Sett to "give him fatherly lessons", but then get mad at Jack's crew because it's stolen. As for why Samira went to see The Old Timer, it is possible that LeBlanc knows Sett's father's real identity and wants him to "pay" for his betrayal from Noxus. All just my thoughts though hahaha

[@peacepham7838]

​@@gexianhen Well, he did miss many times in the past.

[@AngryMetrocop]

@@gexianhen He does this constantly with runeterra cards... basic lack of research chasing after youtube metrics

[@DeathRebel369]

Man, LOR artwork is so damn good for lore reveal. I tune in everytime like a new manga chapter.

[@randombluet-shirtguy2387]

Ikr bro I am very amazed with their art and I even look at to google that "the most badass lor card" and is not disappointed me

[@JayStorm199]

​@@randombluet-shirtguy2387look up Xolaani the Bloodweaver and Aspect's Bane.

[@VSasseville9]

One detail I feel is missing: In Samira's level-up animation, she is chasing the old timer who is running away. That leads me to believe that he is the one with debt... or maybe because Noxus know he is a deserter and will be there and sent Samira after him.

[@lokegerhardsson8979]

In one of the old timer's voice lines he literally says that he is fighting in the arena to pay of a debt so hes most likely the person Samira is hunting.

[@VSasseville9]

@@lokegerhardsson8979 Oh ya that pretty much confirms it

[@hajnahortobagyi690]

@@lokegerhardsson8979 No he does't say that, he says he wants the price and that he lost evrything once, but he doesn't say he is in dept. Samira could be there for Jack but saw an oportunity since he had bounty on his head and tried to cach him as a bonus.

[@lokegerhardsson8979]

@@hajnahortobagyi690 your leaving out context to the old timer's voice Lines. In the voice lines of the old timer he multiple times says that he is fighting in the arena for the price money and nothing else. We allso know this due to how the only other reasons the old timer could have for fighting in the arena are eliminated by there own, he is not in the arena to see his family because he has a mask and he is not fighting for Glory because he would not be hiding his identity if he wanted to be known. That means that when he says that he "lost everything" and wants to "Win everything back" he is talking about Winning the price money and paying of a debt.

[@hajnahortobagyi690]

@@lokegerhardsson8979 Idk, feels like thats jumping to conclusions. I think the point is that we don't know why he is here and he can just by lying. He is wanted so obliviusly he is in trubel, but we don't know why. Also saying he lost evrything can be for many things, infect I feel like its something some one would say if its more then money that they lost. So I just think thats a posibility but not likely.

[@Macaulyn_97]

Sett is actually suspicious. Sett has a line towards his father: "You remind me of someone. Someone I hate."

[@marmyeater]

Hopefully it's just personality, and those idiots didn't forget that Sett's father is a human, not a vastaya.

[@ranuxell9182]

@@marmyeater the old timer is not a vastaya he just wears a costume my guy

[@Macaulyn_97]

@@marmyeater Its called a mask, honey, he literally doesn't want to be recognized...

[@ozymandias8523]

@@marmyeater the oldtimer is human noxian as the Master Bingwen asked: "Noxus send all his fighters masked?"

[@Cardboard_Cut]

@@marmyeater you really saw those batman ears and thought he was vastaya?

[@kos_]

Jack could make a cool dungeon boss for the MMO tbh. Notthing crazy in power level, but is a strong character that could be a boss.

[@nidhogg8446]

Ooh, considering previous cards he might be good as a Miniboss you fight on the way to Tahm Kench

[@nanokiryt]

Its seems that Jack was killed by Sett

[@duck-ew5zs]

A lot of MMOs have underwater maps, he could be one of the bosses since he's a fish person and has a sick submarine

[@thanatos8618]

He could be a nice juggernaut in lol.

[@user-zm2br8mr4z]

I realy like how this exp comes right after world ending darkin war

[@Caporai]

Jacks level up animation shows his two knuckle rings, KC and AJ, which he use to punch his opponents. This results with them having wounds that spells JACK.

[@somanith8372]

Hoping we'll get his mom next. Their interactions would be crazy

[@novaseer]

"Another scar, Sett? What are you doing out there?" "It's Ionia, ma. Building's dangerous over here."

[@overwhelm876]

He didn’t talk anything about Angel…

[@kimkardashi-un2.051]

​@@overwhelm876 who?

[@More_tefi]

​@@overwhelm876 Maybe because of its flavor text doesn't tell us much. Based on its art, it seems that He/She is one of Jack's crew that stays on Bilgewater when the others set sail to Ionia. His appearance looks a bit like Marai (fishy ears) though.

[@cartoonishidealism582]

*Plot twist:* Sett’s mom hired Samira to go after Sett’s dad to collect child support

[@HittingBandy]

Considering how Samira is chasing down the old timer during her level up, I'm guessing Jack and her story interlocking is just pure coincidence as she was actually after the old timer.

[@hajnahortobagyi690]

I feel like this could mean also the oposite, if he is wanted, she would be there to cach him for the bounty not to colect dept. So I think Jack is in dept but she saw an oportunity and tried to cach him too.

[@rwg6357]

as Riven proved... Noxus doesn't really let you leave.

[@boxtupos7718]

​@@hajnahortobagyi690 He prolly isn't debt, seeing as he has a boxing gig in Bilgewater He had a deal with Tahm Kench though, and he is one of the few that managed to fight back.

[@hajnahortobagyi690]

@@boxtupos7718 Old timer is preatty much comfirmed to be the one in dept in the mean time, the artist who designed him revealed the concept art for him with the note "don't lend him your money", but then I have no clue why they burning Jacks ship.

[@demothiguillermo2059]

​@@hajnahortobagyi690they're probably burning it after or during their fight with his crew because of the fight

[@isislikesyou8605]

The name Old timer also fits in with the lore of Sett's father, in Sett's lore it was mentioned that his father was a superior fighter in the pits. Sett mentioned finding him in the pits just to end up having his first fight the same night he was looking for his dad.

[@reyalfa18]

if it wasn't obvious enough that it is indeed sett's father the in game code refers to the card as "Not Sett's father" And when he dies his dying quote is just "tell him" referring to telling Sett that he's his father of course.

[@jeffmadmastermind3907]

his dying quote is intentionally a parallel to Sett's dying quote (in lol) "Tell my pa... I hate him."

[@ozymandias8523]

@@jeffmadmastermind3907 lmao

[@ozymandias8523]

Where do you see the setts code from?

[@user-xm8nt7xk6k]

The joseph joestar of lol

[@degitoblue6783]

But sett is dio soooooo it's a jojo reference?

[@ShadowPhoenix82]

13:35 yes, Samira's level up animation strongly suggests The Old Timer is her target.

[@elvenatheart982]

I am happy you cleared the reason why Samira's crew are themed after elegant stuff and roses . I didnt know. Also, I missed the sett quotes

[@ReillyWPM]

Random trivia: Sett’s English VA Xander Mobus also voiced the announcer in Smash Ultimate and Joker in Persona 5.

[@ajitae1460]

@Redemption Games Old Timer's VA is definitely Silco's VA from arcane too

[@vilxxblack2472]

@Redemption Games I thought he was Runeterra Batman.

[@taliyah8400]

FUN FACT: one of the reason Jack's ship can sink (or has a ship) is because his was destroyed (Sunk Cost card) so he made a contract with Tahm Hench( you can see by TAHM KENCH LEVEL UP ANIMATION ) to get his ship going back Edit: pls don't let this go it's a nice info

[@ProphecyHero]

Jack's description in Path of Champions also mentions a close bond with Tahm Kench as well

[@thechocowizard]

he's gonna get eaten by tahm when it's his time to get rotated frfr isn't that how tahm collects his payment?

[@thekirbycrafter7229]

​@@thechocowizard usually tho tahm collects payment when his debtors have run themselves ragged from losing their power/wealth through addiction. Basically he waits till they hit their lowest low after being at their highest high.

[@Sage_6reen]

Wow

[@scottwillian2120]

@@thechocowizard Tomas is his friend, they have interactions together

[@Tyblimp]

When Old Timer dies in game he says “Tell him.” as his last words, basically confirming it for me with context to all the other quotes.

[@stormdragon2529]

Samira is hunting the Old Timer ( Sett's father). in her level up animation we can see her chasing after him , as he runs away from her

[@antistraightmen]

It isnt sett's father

[@vaninhhuu3215]

There are some details that you forgot to mention, 1 of the interreaction between Sett and the Old Timer which can show some link between the 2: Sett: Hey, you kinda look like someone, someone I hate (his dad) The Old Timer: Oh yeah? Then Why don't we work it out on the ring Also in the video of Interactions, the Old Timer has the nick name: "Definitely not Sett's dad", which can raise some suspicion

[@dominicguye8058]

lor doesn't post videos of interactions. . .

[@nidhogg8446]

SkinSpotlights is independent from Riot and he likes to have his fun with these things

[@sakurahirawa]

@@dominicguye8058 other channels do.

[@claracclenky]

@@nidhogg8446 I’m pretty sure they are…sponsored?…by riot to get previews of skins to show off but I doubt riot would tell them if old was setts dad or not

[@nidhogg8446]

@@claracclenky he's on the Riot Partner Program, which in his case means he gets early access to game files, and nothing much else In theory he gets exclusive chroma to gift but I don't think I've seen that

[@Vespercold]

I'd really like to know more about Jacks history and how it relates to his deal with Tahm. You see he signed a deal with him during Tahm's lvl up- presumably for the boat, crew and money. But what happens when that deals time is up? What was the deal? Their interactions before were kind of tense, but now they don't have any

[@cartoonishidealism582]

He has one line where he says he warned Tahm “Not to follow him”

[@Vespercold]

@@cartoonishidealism582 the more and more I think about this the more and more lore implications start to slip through. Jack is a loyal imployee of Tahm, but still has the hat that marks him as having a loan to pay Tahm likes his prey to marinate to the point they would feel the most despair at the loss of all they have. He waited for the gamblers happiest point to claim his debt. A possible outcome is that if Jack does win over Sett, Tahm would come to collect his debt- Jack knowing this would tell Tahm not to come Or perhaps at Jack's loss to Sett he would claim it The demons are some of my favorite beings in the Runeterran lore so I hope they get more love. Having a demons disciple get his own card and becoming a champion, it feels kinda bad with all the potential left on the table

[@diothesquealer6173]

Look at the card sunk cost in lor. I believe that that card is what happens at the end of tahms deal. It’s flavor text is interesting. The ship in the card art looks exactly like jacks ship.

[@ondrejmichalek2602]

didnt he make a deal to always win? hence the nickname Jack the winner

[@Vespercold]

@@diothesquealer6173 that is an amazing connection, I never noticed it before, Kudos homie

[@anoven7008]

I hope you make a video discussing bilgewater’s “humanoid species” AKA the fish people. Because they’re never said to be vastaya and I don’t know if it’s like an alistar situation, where they’re just a different thing from vastaya.

[@serkan978]

I love the voice lines of all the pit fighter cards etc The interactions are awesome I love setts interactions with jack and his maybe father

[@Crazieyboy15]

I seriously hope that Jack becomes a unique and rare case of someone actually making a deal with Tahm Kentch and coming out on top. It would imply Jack to be a serious powerhouse.

[@yourdunkedon7059]

In the old timers death quote he says “tell him” which most likely refers to Sett and that they should let him know his real identity

[@hajnahortobagyi690]

The only thing that bothers me is that the story isn't really finished, I really hope they planing on making a short story abaut this or caping it off some how in the future.

[@murillomesmo8189]

Another thing about this "is Samira after Jack or the old timer?" is that Samira is running after the Old Timer in her level up animation. He's an old misterious noxian that we only know is very strong and is not working for noxus. Samira says there's aways a history to it ,a something else (flavor). He was (is) very strong, powerfull, and it being Noxus, my bet is: Samira is after him, probably the story she has is that he was a high ranker that became a dessertor and a lot of ppl didn't take very kindly he leaving. But he actually know of the black rose (he either found out and had to leave for his life or worked with/for them, but he left knowing too much), so, he gotta be dealt with. Why are one of them burning Jack's boat? idk, stylish for the pic and distraction for their actual action?

[@vgyguv]

As a Sett Main I am hooked by this possibility.

[@avisli8327]

he even got a voiceline flirting with aphelios XD love him

[@vgyguv]

@@avisli8327 Exactly 💯 👏

[@supremeoverlordvader5552]

"As a Sett Main I am hooke..." ~ vgyguv

[@supremeoverlordvader5552]

Sry, inner Darkin folk joke.

[@noninwitch3257]

As a sett main . Hate that sett bein fqn gay or bi .. no bi is cool but gay bruh cmon .. world is so fqed up

[@nem3732]

15:26 If this man is supposed to be Sett's father, he should be a full human and not a vastaya because Sett is specifically a half vastaya and human hybrid. That was a core part in his story that he was rejected by both humans and vastaya. I think the mask is just there to reference his connection to Sett.

[@nezoprime4276]

What about the possibility that both his parent were half and half like him?

[@nem3732]

@@nezoprime4276 What part of HALF human and HALF vastaya do you not understand?

[@Wesed35]

I think the mask is there to throw off suspicion. The ears aren't real, they're just part of the costume. But he is a regular human under the mask. His mother is full Vastayan.

[@thod8820]

​@@nem3732 If both his parents were half Vas, half humans he would also still be half Vas/Half Human.

[@nihao7811]

@@thod8820 i know this is basic Biology but i’m still wonder. Is there any chance for a pure blood Vastayan born from Half Vastayan parents ?

[@aldinozing]

Maybe the next father to be revealed is Kog's "daddy", man, one can dream

[@cartoonishidealism582]

I think it’s implied that Kog’s “daddy” is supposed to be Malzahar. But who knows if Riot is ever actually gonna do anything with that

[@coffeebreakwithbenji357]

Setts dad sounds and looks like leagues version of batman

[@vixalotl5617]

Something to point out / maybe think about with the story the cards tell (at least, for who Samira is after) - The person that Samira is hunting down isn't Jack, or at least not fully Jack, since I didn't check Infernas card art to see it was Jacks ship in the background, but in Samiras level up animation the first frame of it shows a picture of The Old Timer, and then has her chasing after him. Maybe that's why (if he is actually Setts father) he left, because he had a debt he had to pay and he couldn't pay it back in time so he left and went "off the grid" as it were, and only recently came back to which Indari instantly got Samira the job to go after him. If anyone pieces it better to make more sense, that'd be better. I just think it makes sense seeing how Samira was hired to go to Setts fighting arena to claim debt from someone there. Possibly a fighter. And since Sett even has a voiceline with Jack where he says "I've never heard of you", hence his not inviting Jack, it'd make more sense that he's heard of The Old Timer and invited him out to fight. Samiras agent got the information that The Old Timer would be heading to that particular area for what seems to be a massive fight. Jack being there is just a coincidence.

[@ArkLazarusMaximus]

To be fair, the only non-canon cards in LoR are the J4 cards with Cithria Lady of the clouds. Otherwise, any card that doesn't have supporting universe stories are simply depicting future stories.

[@Sinrigh]

I dont really play legends of runeterra but its such a nice thing to have since they give you random missing lore or cinematics on champs you might main

[@unknown-pf5nz]

Thank you for covering this, I really do like this expansion and lore to it so thank you for explaining it ❤ I don't think some lines are Canon though like sett has a line to aphelios for a nod at the whole popular ship like garen and katarina but I still see this as a "what if " and riot could make it Canon since aphelios is travelling to ionia for diana to ask why she left her people so I hope riot explains it as I really like this ship

[@juusosantaoja5059]

Thanks for covering the lore Necrit! It was very interesting and enlightening :)

[@KonbiniNoTakeda]

I beliefe Father Fury is a very smart reference to Akira (1988) and that also his magic is ferromancy, since all that is atracted to him are made out of metal, so...Rell will be a card?

[@nartdarym4237]

So the old timer tricked sett ma with his mask with ears into believing he is vastayan 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Bugimen234]

Necrit, i can't belive You didn't mention that dashing dandy likes Sett's muscles, and he is nervous couse he actualy fancies Sett, AND Sett's quote to Aphelios? HELLO? Alune speaks to Aphelios "You must fight for both of us brother" to wich Sett responds in a SPECIFIC tone "o .. oh i will fight for You Aphelios" ...... HELLO?

[@filipbrcko]

as a sett main and sett being my fav champion in leaguse this story is awesome and has so much potential. also love setts crew.

[@dodex3]

4:55 nice jack voice mimic hahahahahah u're amazing dude

[@stormdragon2529]

Jack, his crew and his ship gives me high vibes of Davy Jones and the flying dutchman.

[@Duarte_GB]

Father Fury is also destroying Jack's ship, you can see the wheel behind him that is the same as the one Jack is steering in the old bab's card.

[@sadmustachee]

In Samiras levelup you can see her chasing old timer, and there is even voice line of sett where he has a suspision on the old timer "you look like someone i hate" he says.

[@hajnahortobagyi690]

You missed the best quote, when the weteran dies he sometimes says: "tell him..."

[@Surgery7]

14:28 THAT'S SO ON THE NOSE!

[@Khichira2012]

quite hooked on this storyline, i do want more!

[@JayStorm199]

You gotta start looking at the level up animation too while your doing this.

[@Tanktaco]

Muah, love the chime! My favorite bit about LoR.❤

[@mr.g1672]

I think you forgot to look at the level up animations. In Samira's she's chasing after the old timer, seems like he's the debtor

[@thelastcrow5660]

So the King's Court is essentially the Flying Dutchman.

[@mer0zer0]

Can you please look into the new Shuriman card as well? It looks like a follower version of Zilean

[@whitehawk1258]

How much i would like to see another recap of Runeterra's history, from beginning to now, the last recap was already 3 years ago, don't we know more now?

[@TanjoX]

a split second when the lvl up animation from samira begins u see a target paper from the old timer and she is chasing him.

[@SadisticSasquatch]

Also of note: It really does look like Samira is chasing after "Old Timer". In Samira's level up animation you can see when she starts chasing after her target and the person running away looks a lot like him.

[@handsum6676]

Important to note that samira hunts “sets father” in her level up

[@CookieCryptid]

Dashing dandy having a knife that's also a comb... amazing weapons indeed.

[@ky-passley4769]

Also the old man's death quote is "tell him"

[@jmmangulabnan6710]

according to Jack's victory quote he is in fact there just to fight for the belt so he may not be the one that is Samira is looking for, so it only means that it is the Old Timer who is the one Samira is looking

[@joseantoniogomezrodriguez1724]

Well, samira is going after the old timer in her level up animation. I think he desserted and the black rose is sending samira for him and in the way she will get the Jacks bounty

[@amackdaddy34]

I feel like you should analyze level up animations to. Some kinda fill in the gaps in lord

[@thanatos8618]

It can be a bait, to make us think he's Sett's father, but actually his close friend, who knew very well Sett's mother as well. All this to keep the mystery about Sett's father. Mysteries are always nice to have around lores. I'm more interested in Jack becoming a champion in LOL. Would be a very nice juggernaut.

[@moicster6035]

just watched skin spotlights voice lines and thought about him. Necrit already at it xD

[@senjiscope]

oh btw you can see ahri in the top left of jacks level up card

[@scottwillian2120]

Poor pit professional, got caught by surprise and mangled by 2 fishes and a octopus thing

[@daqqahlikirep]

Come on Necrit. You know that is definitely not Sett's father. It's even in the code. And you can see who Samira trying to find in her level up animation.

[@zardthedragon1896]

I dont know if they create the lore before the cards or the cards before the lore but either way its impressive

[@MisuneDate]

Plus: He uses a luchador (Mexican wrestler) mask, and set ultimate is kinda a wrestling move.

[@becauseidonthavenitrotoupl4259]

4:20 The Dutchman must always have a captain.

[@DjuraValtr]

After seeing Jack, we really need a Shark man bruiser.

[@MRKM2012]

Been thinking about Yones revival ever since his release with yasuos story, all I thought about since then was their father coming back

[@sheanmiki2266]

love the half red half black pj's 😍😍😍

[@pascal7498]

To be fair they'll probably have the confirmation in the MMO for the pugilist/monk/fighter questline

[@stanza966]

u can see xayah and rakan in the background of jack's art (top floor to the right of jack's hat) 3:30

[@minhhaiinh8313]

My man's dodging child support even when he's not asked to pay child support.

[@ottoduan47]

13:27 " I am vengeance! I am the night! I am......"

[@Archomir]

I want him as a playable character.

[@DanteAkira6669]

Maybe samira an her group through that jack was the debt owner but in actualy it was the old guy, both are in the run from somewhere and both are suspicious

[@EvilCheeseMoon]

It feels so weird not seeing necrit on the side of the screen, it’s like something is missing lol

[@TerraLuna2001]

I'm really happy that we get some more lore about Sett since he's my second main. But out of every champion we really need to know something about yorick after.... what happened. And for shaco yes...

[@claracclenky]

Oh…shaco….Honestly if there was a champ to delete from the game I’d say shaco

[@claracclenky]

I literally forgot about him until you mentioned him (and so did riot lol)

[@TerraLuna2001]

@@claracclenky shaco or yorick?

[@claracclenky]

@@TerraLuna2001 The clown lol

[@TheLanach]

Did anyone else notice that a lot of cards in this expansion have no voice lines? Elegante Edge, Father Fury, Flashbomb Peddler and Secret Keeper are the examples I found. And I really wanted to know more about Secret Keeper 😢

[@MauiiSan]

Dashing dandy looks like space dandy proove me wrong 🤔

[@merouanebelaroussi9706]

Samira lvl up animation show her attacking "the old timer"

[@Viper-py4pg]

7:20 I want to see her as a new adc throwing knives for autos omg 😍

[@Roxas1996Simon]

Bull only lost the hand. In the Card he still has the arm with which he struck his opponent. It’s shaded light grey. The hand he lost is the bandaged one

[@MohAmed-pf7dt]

12:16 "bankaiiiiiiiiii"

[@james-p-onse]

Has anybody noticed the new Main Menu screen art? The one with what seems like a an old lizard(?)-man in red robe holding a cane? He has an orange glowing horn and beside him is a floating fire spirit dragon. If anybody has noticed that screen art, is that a hint of a new champion? Something else?

[@cartoonishidealism582]

It’s for a dragonmancer event

[@caveot7672]

Jack NEEDS to become a League champion. Such a cool design and story mustn’t go to waste.

[@thehulk123123]

Think you forgot to mention in Samiras lvl up animation, she's chasing down the old timer, makes me think that he's her main target

[@onthedre]

The art here is amazing we need a full game with samira made by platinum

[@nickbraam5605]

Jack has a tahm kench fish on his hat

[@o0xTHEcoPlayerx0o]

"we have an original name, The Bat Panther"

[@Agent-KD6-3.7]

he is named settsnotfather and samira is trying to catch him in her level up

[@D1n0NLY]

The Old timer looks like a fusion of heimerdinger and yusari the slayer 😂

[@7ANKOUCH]

In Samira's lvl up animation shes chasing the old timer

[@DaniszAstronauta]

The more I learn about runeterra lore, the more I want an offical TTRPG book in this universe. Or I will just do it myself, I guess.

[@FaaZa00]

8:08 it's lunar princess ranni from elden ring lol

[@minhnhatb.h2503]

bruh old i fkin love old timer's voice line he sounds like batman

[@fronkbingbong9919]

After hearing "Oh but i do mind" I had to search up his voice lines ing and GYAAT DAYUM

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Anyway, interesting Characters we were introduced to, I hope we learn more about them.

[@fisguinho]

idk why i dont see any mention of this but father fury seems like a gigantic reference to akira, all the way down to the cape

[@CrimsonHybrid]

I love Dashing Dandy and his Space Dandy hair! 😆