Did The 2024 AFL Trade Period Just Get SPICY? | AFL 2024

[@darrenscreaigh6273]

First time listener .....loved your thoughts on the westcoast issues.......absolutely spot on withvwhat ubsaid

[@daztalksfooty]

Thanks mate, welcome aboard!

[@Ben-ij6zv]

Nice west coast take Daz... balanced and fair. Starting to get a little tired of vic based journos. Great job. Hawks must meet the market or it doesnt happen. He's contracted.

[@daztalksfooty]

Spot on my friend!

[@paulwhitehead1190]

Yeah but hawthorn obviously don’t value him as 2 first rounders. He might be contracted but he’s also 29 and his back is cooked.. hawks would be mad to offer 2 FR picks

[@Ben-ij6zv]

@paulwhitehead1190 easy. Deal doesn't get done then. Hawks sounded him out, not the other way round. Btw at 29 he's still younger than Sicily and Frost. And his back is fine. You don't think they did a physical? He was put on ice when he declared he was going and the eagles started putting games into Hedwards.

[@jasonhodder4555]

Hi Daz, with Hawks now offering future first and second for Barrass, which I think will get it done in the end. Gee it would have been good for them to keep 14 and in this years strong draft, but I guess I’m being greedy 😂 great video again mate, Go Hawks, in Mitchell we trust 😊

[@user-cp4os6ws1t]

What Hawks are offering now is exactly same or slightly worse than what eagles said no to originally . Original was pick 14 and F2 for Barass and F3 Now F1 and F2 for Barass and F3 . Likely as Daz said about F1s , but my take is Hawks giving 2x F1(est~ picks 14&17) and 1xF3 (53)for Barass and a F2 (21) Hawks get Barass and 3 x 2nd rounder for 2025 (Eagles , Hawks and Blues) Eagles get 3x 1st rounder for 2025 with either the Hawks or Blues going to Tigers for Baker . Eagles will split pick 3 this year and go to draft with 2 1sts and pick26

[@nickcarlson2708]

Calm, rational thought process coming from Daz as always.

[@spinkscapes775]

14:16 so true. 3L of Pepsi Max you could've bought for $2 back in my uni days. Great video by the way. Barrass will be a fantastic asset for you and may make the difference for your flag attempts in the next couple of years.

[@BigCatinBKK]

The reaction from some folks (other people, not Daz) to the Hawthorn-Carlton pick trade is completely over-the-top. It seems like hyperventilating following a lack of action. Hawthorn have traded this year's pick 14 for Carlton's F1 and F2. Hawthorn could use that (or two future first-rounders) to trade for Barrass, and WC could use a F1 to trade for Baker. What's the issue? I'm ambivalent about whether WC should pursue Baker (and I think there's a risk that WC overpay), but the "analysts" who say this has "blown up" the trade period have lost their marbles.

[@endakis1]

thanks dazzla

[@eggeggeggeggeggeggeggegg]

Richmond’s trade makes extra sense when you look at their strategy in the draft last year of trading back multiple times while still picking the player they wanted. It’s as if they managed to create the picks to let them do this for “free”.

[@jamesgibb9341]

I hear Hawks are into Pick 13 to satisfy Eagles wants of getting a Pick in this year's draft. I think the following trades can happen to get Barrass to the Hawks. Trade 1: Hawks: In: Pick 13 Out: Hawks F1st, Blues F2nd Suns: In: Hawks F1st, Blues F2nd Out: Pick 13 Trade 2: Hawks: In: Barrass, Eagles F3rd Out: Blues F1st, Pick 13 Eagles: In: Blues F1st, Pick 13 Out: Barrass, Eagles F3rd Hawks hold onto Pick 30 and their F2nd for next year and get Barrass, as well as Eagles F3rd which can all be used to trade up on draft night if we see a player that we like e.g. like what happened with Josh Weddle.

[@rileyulegend130]

This is interesting. It’s hard to believe that one pick swap has sent about 4 teams into shambles. Personally I’m glad that west coast didn’t take that offer. It’s pretty much been confirmed that it was going to be a swap out for baker. Nothing against baker, his a courageous player but his not a massive positional need for west coast. Then we would have a big hole in the key defender department. Arguably a even more important role because an interceptor like that is so hard to come by, and to just swap him out for baker would of made me fuming with anger! If baker is taken to the preseason draft, you would think that Richmond would acknowledge that baker wants a move to the west. I agree with Kane Kornes here, just walk him over. Once baker is in the blue and gold, I’m sure he won’t give 2 shits what Richmond gets back. That moves us into the barass deal again. If pick 14 and a second was bare minimum for barass yesterday, 2 (late) future firsts wouldn’t be a whole load better, but I’d be happier with that because that could open the doors right up to pinch Chad Warner in 2025. Warner for barass and some scraps sounds more like it to me. That gives both clubs a bit of play. There is a scenario for everyone to come out in front, (apart from Richmond) but as I heard during your video then, you’ve got at least 4 first rounders. Be happy with what you’ve got!

[@daniellebcooper7160]

I agree, Hawthorn are in the Premiership window. Its just happened sooner rather than later.

[@FluffyKing43]

Same thing was said about Essendon in 2018 based off a better finish same as the saints they did it twice! Just because they had a good season this year doesn’t mean they’ll back it up next year doesn’t always work out that way.

[@daniellebcooper7160]

@@FluffyKing43 do you not think that hawthorn will be a genuine contender for a top four finish next year?.

[@FluffyKing43]

I’m not surprised Essendon hasn’t done anything yet personally I think they gotta wait until draft night to do it because you’re allowed to trade on draft night and it has worked in the last few years.

[@seanverso6712]

May use those picks on draft night live trade

[@nicolacantatore7095]

I hope you are right about the Barrass deal for both clubs mate because they wanted Tommy and chased him hope they do the right thing by him

[@jamesmahoney8564]

Baker apparently wants Richmond to be compensated for his trade

[@daztalksfooty]

Love the great man

[@pd3929]

I've decided Daz needs to be a list manager and head of recruitment at an AFL club, i reckon you'd do an awesome job. Come to my tigers 🐅, dont worry about the poos and wees club 😝

[@daztalksfooty]

Thanks mate 😂

[@jerryfelitios8398]

West Coast needs to keep pick 3 and get Finn O'Sullivan.

[@Bushranger28]

Daz , Baker will end up at Freo instead walking to the PSD.

[@daztalksfooty]

Yeah definitely an option

[@sanchezgaming2146]

Daz you’re kidding yourself if you think we’re giving up two first rounders for a 29 year old we don’t really need

[@daztalksfooty]

You say this like it's up to me, it's not what I think we're going to do, it's what we're likely to be told to do! Or one of the firsts and both future second rounders

[@sanchezgaming2146]

@@daztalksfooty I’ve always respected your opinions you know more than me mate. Love your videos man. But I’ll be disappointed if we give two firsts. That’s crazy to me. Maybe I just need to set emotions aside here and move on with it. Barrass is 29 and will only be good for three years tops.

[@sanchezgaming2146]

@@daztalksfooty but if that helps us win a flag or at least have a good shot at it like you said, maybe I just need to get over it 😢

[@chriskelly9476]

Hawthorn's 2025 first and second rounders (from Carlton) to WC for Barrass. WC trade those onward to Gold Coast for this year's pick 13. WC then offer picks 23 and our original 2025 second rounder to Richmond for Baker. Win for all clubs I reckon.

[@daztalksfooty]

Wait so 1 first & 2 seconds? Or 2 firsts and 2 seconds?

[@chriskelly9476]

@daztalksfooty This is just speculation of course. But WC will likely end up with a future first and future second with the Barrass trade. Send them onward to GC for this year's pick 13, then our original 2025 pick 2 with this year's pick 2 to Richmond for Baker. Does that make sense? I might be completely off the mark here but WC need another first rounder for this year so I can see them trading next year's one they'll likely get from Hawthorn.

[@tommoutsos7882]

The GOAT is the best.

[@daztalksfooty]

❤️❤️❤️

[@noctisgriggs4873]

Hawthorn will not trade two x future firsts. Lock that in.

[@sanchezgaming2146]

Future first and future 2nd for Barrass and future 3rd should be sweet.

[@hicks4721]

@@sanchezgaming2146why tf would west coast do that 😂😂😂😂

[@sanchezgaming2146]

@@hicks4721 because otherwise they’ll be stuck with a 29 year old player that hawks don’t really need that doesn’t want to be there at WC. Take it or fk off 🤡

[@BigCatinBKK]

I think that is quite feasible, provided something half-decent comes back. Bear in mind that WC's second-rounder is likely to be pretty early. So it could be a future first-rounder and a downgrade from a late first-rounder to an early second-rounder.

[@sanchezgaming2146]

@@BigCatinBKK yeah that makes sense

[@MyCaptainPugwash]

Mid video, not sure if you are going to talk about it, but what do you think of the Noah 7 year deal.

[@daztalksfooty]

Mid video? Thanks I guess

[@CalebJfx]

@@daztalksfooty Think he meant hes in the middle of the video not the video being mid

[@MyCaptainPugwash]

@@daztalksfooty Oh i watched the whole thing, I just wanted to type it before I forgot.

[@steveweagles]

Carlton swap either of 12 or 14 and a player ( pittonet/young ) to Geelong for de Koning. Geelong use that pick and future first to get smith and something back. . They then use their first to get Oliver from Melbourne.

[@daztalksfooty]

De Koning not going anywhere but I like your thought process

[@madman94]

Pick 6 for rioli is overs 💯, overrated

[@daztalksfooty]

Personally I think he's overvalued more than overrated but each to their own my friend

[@Dani-jq6db]

Doesn't operate like that clubs scew each other with Baker in preseason always understanding between player and clubs

[@daztalksfooty]

Only Richmond are a real threat of taking Baker though

[@wayne9812]

Maybe I'm in the minority, BUT Tom Barrass is 30 in 2025 and although a very good key back, he has NEVER played a full season. We have to keep in mind that we are trading for a 30yo with a dodgy back and NOT a 2022 Tom Barrass playing in a team of spuds. Don't care what WCE think but F.1st and F.2nd is still way too much. Wingard was a star at Port, but he only played about 60% games with us. Older and consistently injured. We shouldn't repeat that mistake.

[@daztalksfooty]

Barrass is 29 for the entirety of the 2025 season. Hawks clearly will manage him but giving up two 18 year old's for a proven commodity is okay with me.

[@wayne9812]

@@daztalksfooty That’s fine if he can stay on the park, but he never has before. The old adage; every players best ability is their availability.

[@udmbfk]

Love your content Daz but this one won’t age well

[@daztalksfooty]

It may not but I can only go off the information available to me AT the time of recording. When these things happen and more things will happen, it'll be time to react then.

[@udmbfk]

⁠@@daztalksfootylove the content, can’t wait for the reaction. Embrace the Hok! We’re not the inferior Pepsi max! We’re Coke!

[@Bevtone]

Is it just me or does the trade peroid become more boring by the year? Perhaps im just getting old but I genuinely used to love this time of year but now not as much

[@daztalksfooty]

Needs to be shorter. 7 days max for me or even 5

[@BigCatinBKK]

I think part of the issue is that it now gets hyped all year with weekly updates, and we have round-the-clock coverage during the trade period. And then it's anti-climactic. Just think about how much we've heard about player movement all year... we have Gettable producing an hour of content every week all season. And then not much happens. Makes you wonder if that level of attention was warranted, doesn't it? Maybe we don't actually need Trade Radio?

[@crabberdabberye]

It’s because all the deals only happen in the last weeks last few days and the first week is just filler.

[@Jacpark]

A possible trade for you to ponder, In a perfect world, let’s say Richmond get pick 3 from WC and the 2 Fremantle top 10 picks (As they currently stands), North then approach Richmond and offer picks 2 and pick 25, for Pick 6, one of the Fremantle picks (To be negotiated) and pic 20, this would mean Richmond have the first 3 PICKS in the draft (Wow), PLUS the first 2 picks in round 2. What do you think?

[@Ben-ij6zv]

What do west coast get? Don't forget a trade has two legs

[@Jacpark]

@@Ben-ij6zv West Coast get, whatever they agree with from Richmond, this scenario is about a North / Richmond trade

[@Ben-ij6zv]

@Jacpark you post an incomplete trade and then say 'whatever they get'? Here's a clue: some of those picks you've on traded to north and freo would be needed by eagles to agree to trade 3. That's why it's necessary to fill in the detail.

[@Jacpark]

@@Ben-ij6zv Fill in the details, why? as I started this is purely a possible "North, Richmond" trade scenario (In a perfect world) that may, may not, and most likely will not occur, I was only after people opinions as to this particular deal.

[@Ben-ij6zv]

@Jacpark OK sorry mate. I just meant your trade is unlikely because you forgot to trade either 6 or 10 to west coast but happy to leave it at that.

[@spindoctor6385]

It is a missed cgance for WC. With all of the talk and speculation about pick 13, there was opportunity for them to be creative with 14. Hawthorn effectively turned it into a free second round pick. It seems that WC have refused it on the basis of not wanting to hand back a third rounder. And now they can't really take much less than two firsts without looking like fools. All to keep a guy who doesn't want to be there and will not be there the next time they see a pre-lim.

[@BigCatinBKK]

It doesn't really matter if WC plan to use whatever they get for Barrass to form the basis of a trade for Baker. It simply means the deals get done with future picks instead of 2024 picks. I don't see how it makes much difference.

[@spindoctor6385]

@@BigCatinBKK It makes a difference to Richmond because picks next year are needed. They probably can't have seven, top twenty picks in one year. Well, it is possible but not ideal. But if WC make the deal for Baker some other way (Maybe they try to split pick three and use one of those for him) then the value of a pick next year is lower than it would be this year as they would probably intend to use it in the draft themselves. Time also starts to be a factor soon enough. There are still a lot of ways it could go and a lot of my assumptions above depend on the clubs believing that this is some kind of super draft. I personally take claims like that with a grain of salt, it will be a close to a decade before we know if this is some extraordinary draft year. But maybe the clubs believe it.

[@BigCatinBKK]

@@spindoctor6385 If Richmond prefer future picks, WC are now in a position to get future picks from Hawthorn in a trade for Barrass. WC can get 2025 picks from Hawthorn and then trade one of those picks to Richmond for Baker. So how is it a "missed chance" for WC?

[@spindoctor6385]

@@BigCatinBKK Hawthorn used the pick and effectively turned it into a free second round pick specifically because this draft is seen as superior. That could have been done by WC instead. That is just the deal we know 100% that they could have made, others were also possible. If they end up with Hawthorn's next year's first round, the same will not be possible.

[@BigCatinBKK]

@@spindoctor6385 I don't understand your argument. The Barrass deal was always going to feed into the Baker deal. You say that Richmond prefer future picks. OK, that's great. Because there are now more future picks on the table. The Hawthorn-Carlton pick swap simply means there are more picks, in 2025, to organise a deal that sends Barrass to Hawthorn and Baker to WC. How is this a "missed chance" for WC? I don't see it at all.