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DID THE DEVS LISTEN? | 3.0 Developer Radio (Honkai Star Rail)
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[@fishies_aq]

blade can now dispatch enemies in less than 8 cycles

[@LunarEdge7]

*Absolute Fantasy*

[@CHILLDICK]

That would be so broken

[@LunarEdge7]

I pulled for Rappa purely just for Reol's banger track, but I'll always hope for more reasons to whip out my Blade and now, it seems it might not be just cuz of new support units, bless

[@synnnx]

"300k might be reachable for me"

[@kumalanimbus6995]

At last, that paradise might still be reachable for me - Blade?

[@lostwithin7229]

Yeaah.. no celebration yet till we actually see this "improvements"

[@eucliffbentley9670]

fair enough.

[@randomguy9002]

Its also gonna be the hsr anniversary So expect big things

[@thelostwoods3397]

Watch their bright idea for improvements be, "We have raised their multipliers and done absolutely nothing to fix the inherent flaws in their kits that may have caused them to age so poorly, but guess what kids?! The next dps in the patch right after them has even HIGHER multipliers, so none of this matters! Okay. We did what you wanted. You can go back to pretending the game is perfect again. Give us our money, nerds." I would like to believe that's not their plan for fixing such a serious issue, but at this point, these devs can't be trusted to not try and pull a fast one on their own playerbase. Silver Wolf probably still found in a ditch by the end of 3.X. You can tell they put this out hoping they could trick some poor fool into pulling Silver Wolf while they stall for time to properly show us what, exactly, they plan to do in 3.2 onward. That's my biggest beef with this. They know how bad a state some characters are in, and they're knowingly putting this out there just as they rerun as if to say, "We'll fix them, trust. Take our word for it." Maybe they really do fix some of these characters, maybe they don't, but that's just gambling resources on the HOPE that they don't screw this up. It's schroindger's suckery. They've given us every reason not to trust them as of recently when it comes to game balance. It'd be one thing if they announced this and detailed the HOW they plan to fix things, but right now? It just looks dubious.

[@randomguy9002]

@@thelostwoods3397 cant you just wait to see what will happen first?

[@andressilva2055]

​@@randomguy9002hoyo always does the laziest solution possible. That guy may be wrong, but he knows that Hoyo will only out a band aid and call it a day.

[@ACatThatCantSing]

Shaoji finally realized that black screens while learning about lore makes ppl mad😭😭🙏🙏

[@jerryeljeremy7790]

Watch people complaining about how short the cutscenes next right after HSR fixed this black screen problem

[@ryuk6795]

​@@jerryeljeremy7790people like you are the biggest problem that these games end up becoming so bad Always comes up with some excuses and problems when a good changes in going to be implemented and even after the update if there are still problems those problem can be solved as well

[@jerryeljeremy7790]

@@ryuk6795 No I'm just saying that these people won't stop and let the game breath. Note that those are still valid criticisms, but I assume they don't know the concept of "being grateful"

[@adnanbillychrysostome7003]

​@@jerryeljeremy7790not defending them and disagreeing with you but I think it's because those are supposed to be basic stuff that don't even need to be asked. If the whole basic package is not delivered, the complaints will keep coming because Players have high expectations since we are now in 2025

[@floofzykitty5072]

@@jerryeljeremy7790 I think most people would rather shorter cutscenes over ones padded out with excessively long black screens. You also can't mash through the black screens, they give you 5-8 seconds to read like 10 words. The reason why it was so disappointing is that right before Amphoreous, in the dev stream, we were told Amphoreous would have a larger and more ambitious story than all the previous expansions. We see bigger, but not better, which is just bloat.

[@ryuk6795]

And some stupid creators were attacking players for speaking up

[@zeckrincuff3159]

Some of these creators are their own worst enemies istg

[@minuteman21]

Mr Jokke, is that you?

[@ganyumaindayone1112]

i dont play HSR cuz i could see the problems coming from miles away but i respect the players that speak up in this community (and seeing as 3.0 did less income than 2.7 , players voted with their wallet, and look like its working, good job) meanwhile i despise genshin players and CC for glazing the lazy devs of this game and eating its slop

[@atticus.1Q84]

honestly, lets just please cancel pokke, people still supporting the dude is beyond me....

[@jinatlas8674]

not just creators. The fandom would attack you as well for speaking it up.

[@jaspermarkarian7438]

I’d like to thank WuWa and ZZZ for letting HSR remember it was supposed to be hoyo’s “favorite child”

[@eldorado-r9t]

GTA VI delayed because WuWa omg WuWA 😂that so child bro

[@salehhomed697]

@@eldorado-r9t look at the hoyo shill can't even stand seeing the name of WuWa lol

[@setetesairhina]

sure

[@ganyumaindayone1112]

@ those are the genshill dont mix the ZZZ and HSR players with the stinky genshin players

[@eldorado-r9t]

@@salehhomed697 i played lot of games not only genshin or wuwa.. Wuwa fandom like u who thinking wuwa is the centre of universe of games is really make ur game look worst for players want to play wuwa

[@phucphamba2518]

ain't no way they admit their story is a yapfest lmao

[@mikazzzz2414]

atleast their self aware

[@ArpTakaoTTV]

that because people like you guys cant read for more then 10 sec which is shorter then a tik tok video it just make people look dumb and stupid and cant do basic reading and many other stuff, i am not trying to defending them or anything but people attention spam is so short it just a sad and sorry sigh to see and prob shorter attention spam then a tik tok video

[@Rextech472]

Even Dawei would pass out going through it

[@Queen_Myrrh]

Atleast they admitted it. Compared to Genshin which has basically been a yap fest since around Inazuma, with minor acception.

[@AeonLettuce]

Always great seeing feedback get listened to. Defensive fanboys look goofy when they try to pretend valid criticisms and issues aren't worth talking about. It's like they're allergic to improvements

[@eucliffbentley9670]

ikr dont even get me started on the reddit im not gonna go back there bec its like im talking to brickwalls no offence.

[@Aezthet1C]

And don't start to talk about skip button, you gonna get jumped so hard

[@plvto1]

it's the kind of toxic positivity that keeps the games from growing, both hsr and gi. zzz has literally shown that with enough feedback the game will gradually improve but i guess some people havent seen that.

[@eucliffbentley9670]

@@plvto1 exactly.

[@fanafelgminecraft5789]

@@Aezthet1C i think if they add a skip button we need a way to replay the story later on

[@Cynndora]

praying they rework SW into a off-field support like Fuuka/Rise/Futaba in Persona, they kinda teased it with the 3.0 story.

[@coraW]

yeah i had a feeling that the stellaron hunter battle was a sneak peek. im guessing they'll make SW aoe which is nice, especially for someone like acheron

[@shiromatsunoki]

5:25 the easiest way to buff older characters would be to increase their numbers so they hit close to as hard as current units, to make up for their more simple kits. If they decide to somehow monetize the buffs, like Jingliu only gets a buff from a skin you have to buy, it’s so over lmfao

[@ken_727]

Even though it's a good idea, I don't think hoyo would do that cause if they do then there's no reason on pulling on newer character. For example if they did this before T-Herta and buffed Jingliu by alot then what's the point. But I'm guessing when you say buff, like a little buff that makes them viable but not inject them with pure steroids. 😅

[@КрутоТипТа]

I hope those changes don’t disappear after three moths or so

[@izanagi61]

I'm assuming they'll either add more talent passive stuff, or make new light cones for these old characters specifically. The problem is how will we get those light cones

[@ken_727]

@@izanagi61 maybe they can have an event that has a long duration where you can get a special material for that said weak character. For example you need an item like 100 of them to upgrade your Jingliu to a better version but still look the same but hits harder, it's similar to the augment future in HI3 But what do I know 🤷‍♂️

[@floofzykitty5072]

We already know how they will buff these old characters. They will do it the way they always have: Create relic sets and light cones (usually limited ones lol) that are targeted at older units.

[@M0ndi]

Looks like all that feedback and valid criticism is taking effect. Guess players weren't greedy and stupid after all.

[@senatorimamoglu3888]

I think this is the fist time i've ever seen hoyo accepting a problem like this, like it's so bad that even hoyo had to say "yeah guys we might fucked up a little bit"

[@B_Kaizo]

ZZZ has been doing this, for example the TV system and Miyabi's face lmao

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

Hoyo shills real quiet on this one

[@orinoticesu6796]

I won’t believe it til I see how it’s going to be. They haven’t done it …yet. Excited to see it happen.

[@B_Kaizo]

It clearly says it will start in 3.2

[@K1ra_245]

What i would want them to do is buff older units and DONT INCREASE THE DAMAGE CIELING BEYOND MADAM HERTA! This way the character buffing stays sustainable. Unless we want jingliu to be a 10 star by the end of 3.x to clear

[@thatonerandom8767]

I think the damage has already been done... I think theres no way they can fix the old units' viability without putting busted supports.

[@K1ra_245]

@thatonerandom8767 true but they can still fix it with good balancing across multiple patches,if that happens we'll actually get to a point where older units can clear without needing e6s5 robin

[@invertbrid]

Sadly hard. They can buff older chara to be slightly below our current chara, but with powercreep HSR does, it won't be that long till they become powercreeped again. But hey we can at least enjoy our older chara again for quite some time. Hopefully a year or so

[@coraW]

​@@thatonerandom8767 tbf supports being insane is fine as long as they don't excel in a role which is meant to be played by another support (e0s1 sunday and sparkle for example 💀)

[@LunarEdge7]

Think you're asking for the impossible here lmao

[@cheesecakedude4915]

Call me a doubter but I'm holding back with the celebration until I actually see the improvements implemented not just their promise of getting better. Because this very well may be their way of letting the heat calm down before they revert back in subtle ways and we're back in square one.

[@jabermogwai5996]

same, the artifact "improvement" in genshin just make me suspicious about everything they say, for all we know they probably just make a new lightcone for old 5 star char and tell us to pull that lightcone

[@thelostwoods3397]

That's exactly what's going to happen if everyone just goes back to not calling them out when they screw up. The big red flag is that they refused to tell us how they plan to fix this when one of the biggest victims of powercreep is up for rerun. Until they prove otherwise, this was just to see if they could shut enough people up and trick a few people into pulling for Silver Wolf.

[@albertobarberacampos451]

regarding powercreep, to me it's pretty simple: I've left the game a couple of days after 3.0 release, I grew tired of having to pull on characters that I had no attachment with nor did I particularly like their kit (AT ALL), but being forced to do so because it was the only way to keep your account relevant. So, if they actually do it, it's not related to summoning and it ages well after a while, perhaps I'll come back, but I severely doubt I will play it as I used to, they really didn't give a flying fuck about the playerbase for a longwhile now, so it will take way more than this announcement for me to be interested in the system at all.

[@eydz]

To be honest I find the puzzles during the Trailblazer quest okay because I got bored with the story with all the unnecessary yapping. I prefer some brain-teasing moments after those yaps but that's just me and I understand others why they are frustrated about it. Overall the planned changes are a great first step for everyone.

[@foggyfrog]

Same, I unironically enjoy the puzzles more than the story. Don't know why they put so many filler dialogues that means nothing (aglaea goes to town, tribbie talking childishly, phainon and mydei bickering for no apparent reason, castorice being awkward) like I am not interested in all that, so boring. Maybe it's fine but not overblown like that that these became the main thing when it shouldn't. The lore telling is also repetitive and bland. Give me some interesting bits of the characters background like in the lore book or better lore story telling

[@saynotololi]

Bro I almost shed a tear they are buffing and or adjusting older characters. 😢 🎉

[@dandyshark6094]

Meanwhile in hoyolab, the defender of hoyo still trying to disagree with this

[@smallpatrick6816]

I have seen a comment of someone saying “if people complain it means the game isn’t for you”

[@windowcatt]

It's just to satisfy their inflated egos since the beginning

[@dandyshark6094]

@@smallpatrick6816 some of them talking about skip button just make my blood boil XD. That place just another r/gachagaming

[@mauriciorosademoraes9209]

​@@smallpatrick6816... what?

[@smallpatrick6816]

@@mauriciorosademoraes9209 yeah… a handful of them are upset about this in hoyolab which I could never understand why or the reason behind it, also they said all the changes are bad and will hurt the game somehow…

[@ВладиславБериславский]

I never had an issue with storytelling in hsr, as someone who was reading books while other was watching TV, it's asy to me to catch everything ithoung falling asleep as long as story itself is good. But it's still great to hear about incoming improvements, if they use even small cutscenes instead of black screens it will make immersion so much better.

[@anibotic]

Well, them finally acknowledging the issue regarding plot & powercreep is atleast a gud sign that there's hope. We're not asking for game breaking/redefining updates but just to make the game more enjoyable. Hope they try to buff older chars via actually attainable stuff like balance patches or farmable items rather than new gacha mechanics or overtuned supports.(DHIL never wanted Sparkle but somebody who boosts BA or hits/action & gives sp).

[@eherden2169]

At least a response and also based on those revenue estimates I saw recently it dint seem 3.0 hard an impact so I hope they actually do some worthwhile improvements. I laso hope people are vocal of what I see from Aglaea's kit design having high dependence on Eidolons and her LC.

[@kennethyoung7457]

Aglaea is no more dependent on eidolons, LC or supports anymore than other dps characters. If you want to 0 cycle you get eidolons and LC you don't need that stuff to clear content.

[@eherden2169]

@@kennethyoung7457 I don't do 0 cycle but based on what I have seen, that's the impression I get. When she soon releases my opinion may change when I test her.

[@tipithedhedhistar4132]

Changes only happen when their bottom line is going down. It’s great that we voiced our concerns on the game. Added in with people leaving the game / spending less we got them to take action. We should not be content with them cutting corners.

[@darkcastle85]

DID THE DEVS LISTEN GUYS?!! DID THEY FINALLY LISTEN?!!!

[@windowcatt]

If this is true I couldn't even be happier, this is like giving a basic respect to the players.

[@smallpatrick6816]

Which is funny enough the shills are crying in hoyolab about this blaming people for having a bad “attention span”

[@windowcatt]

​​@@smallpatrick6816 couldn't understand what is going on in their heads to blame the players instead of the predatory company. Seems like they retain they self-importance and egos, yikes. Either that or an overly defeatist mindset instead of addressing the real issues.

[@fanafelgminecraft5789]

@@smallpatrick6816 i can easily sit through a 10 hour long story IF the story is good and i think its like that for alot of other people too

[@Googleeeeeee]

yup this is why you should always voice your opinions, there’s always a chance the developers will address your concerns

[@screwdriver7228]

My idea for buffing old limited characters was adding the characters’ eidolons (specifically E1, E2, E4, and E6) as part of their kit and replace them with different eidolons. It’s a godawful idea, but it’s fun to think about Blade spamming his follow up.

[@nicolas._.2294]

Also the people whp got the old eidolons will still have the new ones, seems good, but still, making them this way and too strong might have sales drop a little

[@mauriciorosademoraes9209]

Seele cannot be revived in this way

[@coraW]

jingliu with an extra enhanced skill would be nice, yeah

[@thebrigade7684]

It's just they are releasing new forms of old characters like there's an upcoming Dan Heng form

[@theroguespecter]

Seems like a W

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

A small W, but a W nontheless

[@futo0390]

​​@@idontspeakjapanese6289small? Fixing powercreep and story length is a huge W

[@sillyyoutuber7860]

they ran out of money and are trying to get back players

[@hlonghi]

4:00 huh... never realized that was a problem because I was just chugging chips and one shoting the mobs using Acheron's technique... the more you know I guess 😅

[@zyehboi5835]

as someone who doesnt have characters that can evade combat mode with their techniques this is a huge win

[@rinoakirova1548]

Having an in-dialog choice to skip is fine, but not gonna lie, those screenshots of the map without enemies fill me with DREAD. They absolutely will stop investing as much into exploration and puzzle design, if players just keep asking to skip it all. Calling it now, 3.3 maps will be just empty hallways.

[@futo0390]

Wdym screenshot? Most map have enemies and puzzle and if they don't then it prob because they didn't add it in yet

[@rinoakirova1548]

​@@futo03903:47 "We will optimize the lengthy and complex map pathing for exploration. The enemy placements in certain areas will be reduced..." And they show screenshots as examples of how they're going to remove the monsters on those areas, from maps currently in the game. Not saying there won't be enemies or puzzles, but there's certainly going to be a lot less than now, and it will be way simpler to traverse these maps. AKA, they will be empty hallways.

[@LowTierGaming-lol]

Do you want to fight 4 enemies like before when all you're trying to do is pass a hallway?​@rinoakirova1548

[@aperson6562]

Did those combat encounters actually add anything though? They’re trash mobs which are not challenging at all to defeat. I don’t mind having empty hallways

[@futo0390]

@@rinoakirova1548 isn't there a lot of empty hallway alr? And having less mob would be more beneficial than a lot to acheron haver it won't be any diff but to ppl who don't have any char that can help avoid going into battle this will be a big help

[@Dinklr]

tbf i actually want puzzles the main issue I have is how drawn out it is to progress each step of the puzzle. I hate having to run back and forth between the orb light and book and then realizing I fucked up so I have to run all the way back again. i actually enjoy the more snappy puzzles like the goat flamechaser and the shapes puzzle. also CHARACTER BUFFS IN HSR SERIOUSLY??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? that's actually awesome

[@princessochka3690]

The thing is, that behind the bloat Mihoyo hides the plot mediocrity. All those empty talks, terms and "esoteric mystery" are added just to hide that their world-building lacks any rules and structute, and that the whole concept is sheety. Penacony is the best example of this. 1st act is a build-up with a sea of water, but pay-off acts turned out to be yet another boring anime cliche story (just like the previous belobog/china). And their story cant be good by default, bcz Hoyo snowflakes wouldnt pull contradictory characters which are essential to build such story (evil/mad/egoistic/vengeance/gray moral/etc). Not to mention, that 99% of story is just couple characters standing in front of each other and yapping, and 1% is some cutscenes where they pretend like if there is some action happening. To fix that they d need to rewrite whole engine, which greedy-lazy Hoyo never gonna bother with. As for powercreep - they never wrote anything about stopping the inflation. They might just produce more 5* personal buffers to sell, or add some upgrade that will extend character shelf life for another 0.5 year until char falls off again. This dev note will surely produce some hype aka "dev listened", but knowing Hoyo - nothing would really change.

[@JamesAwasum]

Blade: i will dispatch of you in 2 cycles

[@OldSchoolMinded]

Active playerbase took a hit is why these changes are finally coming. Better late than never.

[@franziskavonkarma9952]

Oh this looks really good, like I mentioned under other videos I don't really care about the story presentation previously but this will be good for people who definitely care (so like most of the community) And that making older characters stronger thingy has caught my intrest, I'm curious with what that really means Overall looking good, I'm happy

[@jerryeljeremy7790]

Blade, Seele, and Silverwolf are straight up unusable ngl. At least DHIL & Jingliu still can clears content fast enough but we still need buff their kit.

[@Glizzyman]

@@jerryeljeremy7790 Ive seen seele clear e0s0 in like 4 cycles so idk about unsuable, but for silverwolf shes dead 6ft deep and blade has both feet in there, honestly besides buffing kit number adding another trace or reworking the old ones would be also good, bc 1.X characters have some useless or just bad traces. Also wouldnt be suprised if they made it so you can hold 2 lc so more people buy the limited ones

[@shutup1037]

Feel their crit chance need rework. Why would I miss crit with 90-95% crit chance​@@Glizzyman

[@kennethyoung7457]

@@jerryeljeremy7790 This is wrong on so many lvls Blade and Silver Wolf still usuable I saw 3 cycle Svarog in current MOC 12 with E0S0 Blade, E6 Remembrance MC, E0S1 Sunday and E6 Lynx I cleared in 3 cycles using E1S1 Acheron and E0S1 Jiaoqiu with E6 Pela nd E6 Gallagher. He is not as bad off as people are saying. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKe3hZ15dtWBjpI Silver Wolf still has highest single target debuffs in the game but theres no team where she is BIS in because most characters have their own dedicated supports. That doesn't means shes unusuable every character is not going to be BIS like Topaz is not even BIS in FUA no more after Remembrance MC with true dmg, crit value, dmg% and action advance, but she is still good and can increase your dmg.

[@Glizzyman]

@ thats just how gacha goes, if it isn't 100% its a 50/50

[@zukodude487987]

I hope they make a skip button cuz i can just watch it on youtube as im skipping it ingame. I just hope the optimizations are actually are meaningful. I hope they animate more of the black screen and screenshot parts and actually make the characters interact instead of just "use pose #4 and then pose #9 at camera angle #3. I also wonder how much bloat will be cut down on cuz if future patches are even remotely as long as 3.0 then cutting down 2 hours will still be 8 hours. For me 3.5 hours in genshin quests feels long so even 5 hours would be insanely long which i already complained about in earlier penacony quests before the 8 hour finally released. The Belobog quest felt like how the quests should have been, short, sweet and to the point. It also felt like they had more animations like my favorite when March said have "have an ice day". I wonder how CN and japan felt about 3.0.

[@PixelMs-j4e]

I wish Hoyoverse cancel all America server America only 15% of the world player base, but they the most drama and complaint

[@CloudBV24816]

Things like this is what kept me thinkig "atleast we re not in genshin"

[@darkcastle85]

Yeah man genshin is like toxic relationship where as hsr is a toxic relationship but atleast they are trying to change hopefully hsr doesnt pull back on this

[@zealgaming8161]

Given the revenue reports. Genshin players seem content with what they get heh.

[@setetesairhina]

sure

[@Drunkendrakon]

The Hoyocreators will still glaze the game up and down and since then I have avoided every hoyocreator since.

[@coraW]

fr, genshin genuinely has so much wasted potential because of the devs. the story (not the storywriting, that's a problem with hsr), character design (the amount of fan service 💀 and also like 0 male characters), and pettiness when it comes to ways of obtaining wishes is absolute ass. it's only downgraded. only the story improved since inazuma but then it went down again in natlan

[@seungjoonkin8970]

If you see Honkai Impact 3, this “strengthening older characters” could end as a tragedy. At that game, Hoyoverse also “strengthen older characters”. By selling new stonger weapons that fits to older characters. And of course, it was a gacha. So, beware guys. They could sell new lightcones for older characters😂

[@immortalspoiler]

Nah. The chinese version of this developer notes is different. They say "strengthen the older character performance" rather than "strengthen the older character".

[@ogcipher4967]

I'd wait to see implementation before going THANK YUUU THAAANKK YOUUUUU ngl.

[@ATHOS_of_INDEX]

I loved the puzzles, honestly, but there is a time and a place for everything. I hope they keep the puzzles in world quests and events, but taking them out of the main story is a W.

[@numeral_delta]

I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS

[@Dragonbro91_]

''Instead of fixing all the exposition and bad story we'll give everyone a mini skip'' See when mihoyo gets backlash the best they'll do is remove it. When Kuro messes up they actually listen to the community and redo the bad content. Why? Because they care about their games and fantasy worlds and do everything they can to share them with as many people as possible. So which approach is best if somethings bad just abort it, or do you try to make it better?

[@genevie1998]

This is exactly why i think the community are a bunch of drama queens, just give your criticism and wait, they read our feedback especially when its massive like this, but noo theres no way the devs could possibly make the game better because they clearly dont listen despite the fact that they HAVE listened in past updates and have only really seen how big this issue affects players in the current update but ig we cant wait one update, has to be fixed tomorrow or the game devs dont care huh

[@alreadyd1d]

Are they saying, that I don't need to pull Midday to have a good Castorice, because they will make Baldie better? Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it, lol.

[@B_Kaizo]

Castorice will be a hypercarry, I highly doubt they will make her need Mydei cause in that case ppl would just skip both

[@alreadyd1d]

@@B_Kaizo not accordingly to recent leaks, all I'm gonna say.

[@B_Kaizo]

@@alreadyd1d These are very early leaks, remember when they used to say firefly was a hp scaling dps? And it's still a beta so obviously the character's kit can change drastically

[@alreadyd1d]

@ well, yes, but Castorice will come out soon, though, since even her in-game animations were partly shown already. The closer character is to their release - the more accurate the info is. As of now, there are 2 possibilities, that being Castorice/Sunday/RMC team, or Castorice/Mydei/Tribbie team.

[@dargenflame2500]

It's all good, BUT I think they shoudn't make empty corridors without enemy. They can reduce it, but not left empty. I mean, isn't one of the problem many players cryes about lack of fights in location?

[@dianrriski]

Don't celebrate just yet, wait until it's demo or even live in the game. Remember how hyped genshin artifact craft and how it turned out to be? Maybe it's bias from me but I'm a bit skeptical after all shit that happened in the other game 😂

[@kunalkorag]

Hope the buff is not limited to story mode bcoz the rest of it sounds only story related plus would love if they make the dice better

[@CastellarClips]

Imagine if the strengthening of old characters is actually just Hoyo adding Tribbie as a universally cracked support.

[@smallpatrick6816]

Ppl in hoyolab are crying right now it’s hilarious

[@archangel7294]

People in Hoyolab is different breed. One of worst breeds.

[@mayaflores4813]

so i did the quest and they put this out.. they gonna like give me 1,000,000 stellar jades for the mental fatigue right

[@nikawrites]

A MASSIVE W - let's hope they follow with this in future patches!!

[@venusiangamer69]

I'm glad Wuwa 2.0 makes HSR devs realize that if they don't do good, they will be trash-talk by everyone. Now that's setting high standard.

[@zyphyruss]

Wuwa is relevant??? that's news to me lol as if, wuwa is not even on Genshin's level lmao

[@venusiangamer69]

@zyphyruss I can agree that Wuwa is not even on genshin level. That game is sh*t. Wuwa always 5steps ahead. Lmao

[@set5026]

​@@venusiangamer69that's Just glazing ASF.The game it's alright i drop It After a week of playing It After beating all the holograms at 5th difficulty,the game has pros yes but has most cons too.Wuwa players made fun of natlan characters exploration being nerfed then they have wings that can only be used in rinascita,bosses,weekly bosses all requires 60 resin for One run and still doesn't have a 3 runs discount like genshin,still doesn't have something for get free 60 resin or echoes/Money every week,still has respawns on world bosses when genshin doesn't,still needs to upgrade your echoes before you can use them cause you can't use Lvl 0 fodders,The skip button is there cause It has more yap then genshin😂even if you skip all the dialogues in the rinascita story Quest you still take hours to complete It,Weapons materials and skills from characters requires you the Same materials meaning you Need to farm double the amount you would farm in genshin,Daily in genshin takes 5 sec you do consident resin talk to Katherine done on wuwa you Need to do specific stuff to complete them which can be upgrade an Echo, use resin,upgrade a weapon etc which usually takes 5 Min,zhenzi literally has the same kit of LAN from tof or even yae miko from genshin there's literally no difference in those,4 stars compared to 5 stars sucks ass in Dmg scaling comparison by around 20/30% more Dmg and you feel It a lot on dps,and the only decent 4 stars are from gacha while the craftable are garbage compared to those 4 stars while in genshin there's some 4 star or even 3 stars that can somehow compete with some 4/5 stars options.Most 4 stars on wuwa sucks unless they are used as skill buffer,auto Attack buffer to your main dps not giving anything of value outside that compare to genshin where the buffers can actually affect the whole team, let's talk about also the parry mecchanic where in 90% of the case most bosses doesn't even have attacks that can't be parried.Both games has pros and cons but hearing that wuwa Is way Better than genshin Is Just straight up lying at this point.

[@eldorado-r9t]

😀wut u thinking wuwa is the centre of universe games.. wuwa fandom like u just make the game more looks worst bro

[@venusiangamer69]

@@eldorado-r9t u said that. I didn't.

[@martinfilipov7497]

No need to thank them bro, the only reason they are doing it is because they are losing players.

[@ordemareboos]

Wow They literay just said "We now know our story and power creep sucks" But their solution unfortunately is not in focusing on the actual characters or the story but making sure that the lore is fed to you more nicely. They should also be made aware that their characters are empty shells and their plot is no better than the plot of power rangers. The ending of Amphoreous is literary a power of friendship beam type of ending.

[@elereto9246]

What are you in geniunely

[@GoKickRockss]

Bro bugging

[@mauriciorosademoraes9209]

​@@elereto9246He's saying that the Hoyo will not make the history better, just tell better.

[@ganyumaindayone1112]

they should just add a skip button plain and simple, there is no reason a game doesnt have a skip button for those that just wanna play without caring of the story (be it good or bad doesnt matter, if xenoblade a solo game known for its story and content let you the choice to skip, there is no excuses for any gacha to not let you skip if u want to)

[@futo0390]

​@@ganyumaindayone1112it a move in the right direction and seeing how they khow that their story is long it does give me hope that they will do add more qol like a skip button(prob depends on when they want to do it and if recoding the old story gonna take a long time)

[@user-mq1ng6sj7b]

I'm not convinced yet that it will be that good, I need to actually see what things they plan on doing with things lik older characters buffs. But it is promising and has tons of potential Cautiously optimistic for this

[@Shinypogs]

I'm fine if the puzzles in the main story are made easier but by god don't make them easy in sidequests and random. Exploration. Let me actually enjoy a good puzzle solve. There's no point at all if the answer is just handed to you.

[@cyanoire_]

BLADE IS BACK ‼️ (hopefully he will, but I have no clue how good these improvements are gonna be ngl)

[@invertbrid]

Finally older chara buff. Its been long time. This way they can sell older character banners again instead of everyone skipping em. And ppl who already got em will be happy 😄👌.

[@Aaronebohol678]

Seele can finally reappear from the sea of butterflies illusions of the past

[@cjcool0078]

The abundance of enemys really bugged which was really apparent when i over 1000 of the base materials from the enemys just from doing the story

[@mooseoncaffeine]

I JUST GOONED TO DA WEI BECAUSE OF THIS!!!

[@axHSR]

Based

[@humanbeing8676]

DEVS LISTENED

[@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee]

I see 2 situations for character buffs: 1 lame situation is they add massive buffs so that old characters can clear content much more effectively which ultimately makes clearing content with newer characters way easier too cuz they will also inherit those passive buffs 2nd is if they go the extra mile to actually change stuff in their stats and eidolons or even Lightcones to make them on par with the new characters

[@duongnguyen-s1i]

im honestly optimistic for the story telling cause they named a lot of the complains and at the end of 3.0 herta cutscene, she moved around a lot and teasing the memosnatcher. that is a start even if its slow but at least they are not against more dynamic story telling

[@miabrooks587]

Now I just wonder if all these quality of life changes are gonna take effect in 3.1 and on, or if they’re going to change some scenes and things in the initial 3.0 update as well. I have to catch up to the story and it’d be nice if I could play the better version when I return to the game.

[@mrunusualsoupia4433]

Really hope this makes a difference, I told myself that if anniversary fell flat then I'm probably just gonna quit the game, this gives me hope it won't fall flat. But the problem is, they need to keep improving the game after that. Why is there not a skip button yet? Why is the relic system still so ass even WITH all the QoL changes? Why are there 6 rerun banners in one patch when you barely get any currency to get one(maybe two if you get lucky) 5 star? Why are limited lightcones becoming more and more mandatory and characters feel underwhelming without them? Why are eidolons becoming more and more important to make characters future proof, hell if leakers are correct, tribbie with her e1 goes from "ok but can skip unless you want her for herta teams" to "giga nuke must pull baby". The answer is obvious, money no duh, but like, can you make a better and less predatory game and then the money will come in? As someone whos been buying the battlepass and monthly pass for a year now, I'm stopping cause I don't wanna support the company anymore if their answer for over a years worth of support is "give us more money" while giving us the laziest .0 update I have ever seen. Really hope they can turn the ship around, I don't think people here want the game to fail anyways so better speak up.

[@sushimuncher282]

I wonder which factors caused this sudden reflection and adjustments? Revenue drop? Player count drop? Or perhaps another gacha that so happens to set the bar so high that the bare minimum must now be met? What surprises me the most is that all of these could have been addressed at 3.0's launch. Big CCs have already talked about this after Penacony, so we were all aware. It's not that the devs don't listen, it's just that they only selectively listen when it hurts their revenue. One could even say, Genshin's Citali and Mavuika combined banner was a contingency to mitigate the imminent drop in revenue for HSR and ZZZ. In other words, they knew, but let the black screen, white text happened.

[@B_Kaizo]

It's because the community has been shiting on this patch nonstop lmao

[@KaedeToxin]

unfortunately hurting their wallets will only ever create a temporary period of "fixing". It sucks knowing that companies will pretend to care for a few months and then slowly creep back into doing what they did previously or find new ways to do it. I don't think any of the current top Gacha are raising the bar high or anywhere close. They just meet player expectations after feeding us trash for months. When they finally decide to feed us a loaf of bread it taste like the best thing you've had.

[@LunarEdge7]

I'm so glad I didn't progress this far before these changes existed.. man lol And thanks to the ones who suffered to give feedback to 'em

[@DigitalStarry]

Turns out that nobody wants to pull on rerun banners if the old characters are powercrept badly or will be powercrept in the next few months

[@azd25]

hope they will buff characters like blade to finally be good. and not to depends on 3 broken supports that will make your dps godly not good

[@Radish21]

guys when 3.2 comes out, zzz is in the backburner again 🤣

[@immahamsteryogamer]

They could've just said "We are sorry for making you read too much and spend too much time on puzzles. We did not realize you were this ignorant and will fix this issue in 3.2. Also, we are going to buff older characters." The way they did it had too much text, I wouldn't be able to read all of it.

[@Queen_Myrrh]

So does that mean the next main boss won't need certain characters in order to complete it? Last boss you couldn't run most teams cause you absolutely needed a medic and either Aventurine or Gepard. Maybe I'm just not as good at building as everyone else or something, but felt you absolutely needed a good shielder just to beat the boss which isn't really far to those who don't have them.

[@xDidddle]

That's why we complain folks

[@leasting]

Devs looking for more ways to buff Jing Yuan, classic. But actually I'm so hopeful that Blade could be viable again! It would be nice for the older cast outside of supports to not be dead weight in the roster.

[@Dizperze]

I will celebrate when Kafka is tier 0 🗿

[@tartag119]

Hopefully this is a sign Hoyoverse will give HSR’s storytelling the same care ZZZ and (to an extent) Genshin gets. The fact that the story for Lantern Rite, a limited time event story, had more effort put into it with the poses and camera than HSR’s first patch on a new planet is wild to me. (Hell, characters were even HOLDING the items they were talking about, instead of showing a PNG!) Genshin has its own flaws, don’t get me wrong, but i just found it funny how wildly different the quality was between the two.

[@bef5582]

Still waiting for the Skip button, at least, since the poor multi billion dollar company is unable to hire talented writers.

[@zod3632]

Ladies and gentlemen, we got em. Im glad they listened

[@vanoid4366]

„When money talks“ moment. Tbh, this is CN community feeling piss off. Nothing more

[@jabermogwai5996]

funny how the hoyo defender keep telling me that the 3.0 patch is masterpiece and cn player is very happy with the update

[@synnnx]

this is actually really good! lets see how they will make it happen

[@Norvis224]

Dhil, kafka, blade, silverwolf they will be finally great again?

[@RejectedInch]

Knowing yoyoverse ( former hoyo player here) trade mark " good idea, bad execution" i'd cool my horses, folks, and wait untill the "improvements" actually drop. Ofc for ya'll that still play HSR i hope you can get what you want, after all competition ( from external sources) can help this lazy company to pull their heads out of their arses.

[@YindigoYangMonk]

I'm genuinely happy man... like... for real. People are overly cautious, which i absolutely DO NOT blame them. But this by itself shows that the Devs are willing to touch whatever issues we address. We just need to keep providing proper feedback. Also, as a player from 1.0. I know all too well that HSR have ALWAYS listened to the players. 2.0 to 2.5 just made the game way too big for its own good. I bet they just got a bit confused in the sea of Firefly and Acheron lovers saying how content they were with the game. Just a guess tho. Peace.

[@shadesofblue8425]

I legitimately set up the account deletion process after getting a taste of this new "story." I was curious to see if this BS was going to be addressed any time soon or if this would be the path going forward in the game. I suppose I'll give Hoyo another chance.

[@Dee-jd8vc]

Probably need to see the implementation first because of my disappoinment with genshin 5.0, but a very good news regardless.

[@kaynenjoyer7380]

And now, i want a 5,000,000 stelar jades as compensation for that +8h experience that i had to eat in 3.0

[@zyehboi5835]

w pfp and username

[@Kami460]

We're home guys

[@anguyen4576]

It’s good to hear, but seeing is believing. Like they seem to recognize the pacing issues and making redundant dialogue optional is good, they just need to make sure the main story flows better. As for them buffing older units, I think I’ll be cautiously optimistic to see their approach in doing it while also considering how they develop new characters too. Like the recognize the powercreep issue and plan to support older units, but would they use that as an excuse to make even crazier kits in the future than there already is? “Richer” combat does have me curious tho. I’m not sure what they could that wouldn’t seem like a superficial addition. I’ve thought about them adding evasion and I’ve seen people talk about them adding front/back rows, but I wonder if these kinds of changes would be enough. Maybe it’s something else entirely.

[@hamzaid9897]

for now I won't get too excited until I see the actual changes. 1. is there an actual REAL SKIP BUTTON if it's just some parts of the main story but not all of it then L 2. wanna see how they will fix the powercreep and buff old units for now my expectations are low

[@adrianchew8775]

The audacity of some players saying that powercreep is a player issue

[@mr.snowman6223]

IS MY BLADIE GETTING A BUFF?!

[@shahlovely1973]

Yay, I can finally play star rail now! Yippeee! About time you realised Shaoji!

[@ErrorNamenotfound-gq9ur]

As a whale in this game, I was part of the problem I quit before 3.0 then they changed!? Didn't expect that to work.. I might try this game again when there are significant changes I'm happy to see this

[@bef5582]

Arlan damage done increases by 5 percent

[@ezerutan-nx1bo]

certified DEVS LISTENED moment 🔥🔥🔥

[@Elfcon]

In Honkai impact 3 old unit get buff I think the plan was to tell us about this in 2nd anniversary instead of now

[@jblitz200]

I CAN FINALLY USE MY JINGLIU I COULD CRY