Did The WWE Fail Here?

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Dylightful

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@Realgrasp
@Realgrasp 4 ай бұрын
I think he reached his celling US , intercontinental, north american , tag team champ is really good tbh his mic skills are rough he feels like he is just reading a script
@dwightyboy5324
@dwightyboy5324 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, you can put belts like that on him but not a world belt. Guy was never meant to be a top guy in WWE, where charisma and mic work matters just as much as what you do in the ring.
@DanielDeLeon69
@DanielDeLeon69 5 ай бұрын
I'm Hoping That Ricochet Won't Go To AEW And That He'll Make A Name For Himself In The Independence Scene.
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Sadly I have to agree, I just don't have confidence he'll be featured properly
@Fade761
@Fade761 5 ай бұрын
@@Dylightful If he accidentally signs with AEW, its over for him, he'll become from a midcarder of wwe to a shuffled-to-lowcarder in AEW. Its better if he joins the TNA and WWE Invasion storyline.
@DaManWithDaStuff
@DaManWithDaStuff 4 ай бұрын
Bro how do you think the wwe found him? He’s already made a name in the independents, have you seen him in Japan?
@myro54
@myro54 4 ай бұрын
@@Fade761 accidentally?
@myro54
@myro54 4 ай бұрын
@@DaManWithDaStuff he prob meant get better in the independence
@master-of-mind5881
@master-of-mind5881 4 ай бұрын
They didn’t ruin or waste or fail ricochet. His acrobatic prowess is insane, he’s a natural talent. However his gimmicks and overall persona was never over, he’s never made waves in the wwe. Every time I’ve watched ricochet I’m like - “oh wow that was cool. A sunset flip to the outside.” Then I move onto the next match or segment and forget about ricochet. To make an impact in this business you need to play a character that people can get behind, believe in and invest in. Wrestling is ultimately about showmanship and character. People are behind Cody because his character is believable. People loved Goldberg because he connected with the crowd. He had raw charisma as a babyface. Ricochet is far more talented than Goldberg but he lacks a good gimmick that could get him over. I hope he proves me wrong and comes back bigger and better but let’s face it, he’s simply not main event material. He’s just not meant to be a top star in the WWE. It’s not on the cards. Having said this, I enjoyed his in-ring work and he was always one of the bright spots of any live show he was part of. He put his all into it. Kudos to him for bagging Samantha, ironically this might be his greatest accomplishment in his career thus far.
@ShotInTheDark407
@ShotInTheDark407 5 ай бұрын
If Ricochet goes to AEW he's gonna be in the same position.
@aniketsawant2240
@aniketsawant2240 2 ай бұрын
worse. In WWE he was at least unique because nobody moves like him in WWE. In AEW, there are other younger highflyers, who can also cut decent promos. He will get a push until TK gets bored and hires another free agent.
@justinlynch3
@justinlynch3 4 ай бұрын
No those people in the comments would be exactly right, Ricochet is a spot guy. Ricochet had chances to show his mic work, most recently with his feud against Logan Paul and Logan cooked Ricochet on the mic. Ricochet ceiling is a midcarder that can occasionally break into the uppercard for the purposes of putting main eventers over. Guy can put on great match and is capable of captivating stunts and high spots, he's an amazing B+ player. But he don't have enough charisma and mic work (not saying he doesn't have any, there are certainly worse mic workers then Ricochet. I'm just saying he doesn't have enough in that area) to carry him into the main event. Ricochet is perfect chasing and occasionally holding the IC, US or Tag championships. But he's someone that should never reach World or WWE title level.
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 4 ай бұрын
I said it before to another comment, but people really don't understand the value of consistent experience working a live crowd on the microphone. Ricochet held his own fine in that promo segment with Logan given his experience. Cutting promos infront of a live crowd is completely different to rehearsing them in a dressing room because you need to read and feel the crowd, plus there's that pressure of doing it infront of people which innately does add a lot to it especially when you aren't given the opportunity to constantly do it. In NXT his wheels were greased, he was constantly getting promo time for the full sail crowd in addition to his matches and generally delivered very solidly on his promos, but once he got to the main roster the most we would hear him speak is in backstage segments. Also I'm not just chatting out nothing here, my experience as an indie performer who primarily focused on promos was that being infront of a live crowd is the difference maker. Being able to read the temperature of the room, say the right things at the right time, it all is what separates an okay promo from a great one. I'm not gonna claim to be the best on the horn myself because i simply am not, but comparing my first promo infront of a crowd to my later ones it's clear as day that consistently being infront of crowds cutting them made an astounding difference
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 4 ай бұрын
@@Dylightful You can argue he was given nothing to work with coming up in the twilight of the Vince era, but even still afterward floundered despite being seen as a Triple H guy. If ricochet weren't written off by Bron, he'd have been a casualty of the Wyatts
@EliasRoy
@EliasRoy 5 ай бұрын
No they didn’t. He never had the charisma and mic skills to excel into the main event or upper mid card.
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
He really did though, his promos against Logan and some of the different times he was given a backstage interview really let his personality and solid mic skills shine imo. He was plenty good enough to be a top guy, but didn't get many chances to show it on the mic
@dominicsmith743
@dominicsmith743 5 ай бұрын
​​​@@DylightfulI don't know what promos you watched, but most people just remember Logan Paul destroying him on the mic. If he was an above average mic worker, it would have been different. Miz, Rollins, and KO didn't get destroyed by him on the mic. Why? Because they simply are all way better than Richochet on the mic. Even Rey Mysterio who isn't that good on the mic, didn't get cooked as bad by Logan. Also guys like Rey Mysterio and Jeff Hardy both wrestled high flying styles and were main event guys that weren't great on the mic. But they also had a marketable look that Richochet is missing.
@dwightyboy5324
@dwightyboy5324 4 ай бұрын
​@@dominicsmith743 very true. Ricochet was given constant opportunities to get better on the mic, and it just never happened.
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 4 ай бұрын
@@Dylightful Logan literally told Ricochet he is just a highlight. Ricochet flipped out of the ring to the ground, and proved him right.
@UnderScoredd
@UnderScoredd 5 ай бұрын
If he's gone, it will LITERALLY have zero impact on the product. At this point on the shows, he'd be like 11th in line for a MIDCARD title. His gymnastic style (while extremely impressive athletically) just doesn't mesh well with WWE's more recent move into actual wrestling. He could never be top champ. Not in WWE at least. Him leaving would be best for everyone. He could be top champ in another promotion and wwe would have one less "uhh what should we do with him" wrestler. Being good on the mic is just not enough to save his presentation. I guarantee if he goes, he'll be forgotten in a month. Not one single pesron will stop watching if he leaves. He's a Mustafa Ali in that sense. Plus his chick is 10x more over than he is and she's just an announcer! Yikes.
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Could not disagree more with the take that he'd be forgotten. The guy is the sort of wrestler that kids look up to. Maybe not you or I, but kids will remember him 100% and wonder where he went. My nephews in particular are huge Ricochet fans. Also he's definitely good enough to be a top guy, he's every bit as talented as a majority of them and has just lacked that one breakout moment or feud that many of them have found already
@SamsungTV-mq3kn
@SamsungTV-mq3kn 5 ай бұрын
@@Dylightfulhes not a top guy material at all but I agree some kids may miss him. I felt WWE should have kept him to stay in that lower midcard role to add some variety in RAWs midcard scene. But I understand why they let him go the roster is just so stacked right now
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
@@SamsungTV-mq3kn they didn't let him go tho, they tried to re-sign him
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 5 ай бұрын
@UnderScoredd Who are you to decide who is main event worthy? Are you the booker? No! Are you head of creative? No! You are just a disrespectful ungrateful Smark who think they know everything! You do not know @£^&& so kindly keel yout disrespectful comments 2 yourself!!! WWE failed Ricochet just like everyone else who is not a samoan and if you can't see that yiu are as brian dead as Vince!!!!!@
@Youngsickbacchus
@Youngsickbacchus 5 ай бұрын
I like how the one thing you don’t mention in this video is his feud with Logan Paul, because he was objectively given an opportunity to show some skill on the mic with someone clearly very talented in going back and forth and even putting people over verbally and he failed miserably. Logan Paul was the litmus test that proved Richocet’s promos don’t get better than average. They didn’t fumble him he reached his peak in a company where you have to perform verbally as well or better than you do in the ring. He belongs in AEW as a bout machine or in the indies where he can carry a promotion with his matches
@wesleyclanton8748
@wesleyclanton8748 5 ай бұрын
Extremely well said. He was given years to get better on the mic on both NXT and the Main Roster and still never got any better or any more convincing with his promos
@Youngsickbacchus
@Youngsickbacchus 5 ай бұрын
@@wesleyclanton8748 seriously I’m tired of the narrative that the company was just working against him when it was clear they wanted him to succeed it just didn’t work so they found another spot for him
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 4 ай бұрын
He performed very solidly against Logan imo. It's okay for you to disagree, but your opinion is not fact goat. The issue with being a wrestler and cutting promos is you can rehearse them a million times in the mirror, but you'll only really improve when given consistent opportunities infront of live crowds. I say this from experience and from teachings I've gotten during my time learning from guys like Gangrel and Jim Duggan. Over my time wrestling I went from maybe a D at best to like a solid B+ promo by learning how to connect with the crowds I'd be performing for. Ricochet was NEVER given consistent opportunities to cut promos infront of the live crowds which is where that improvement comes from.
@jamesprice6015
@jamesprice6015 4 ай бұрын
​@@Dylightful Ahhh, yes, he did.
@msbte49
@msbte49 5 ай бұрын
People need to understand that no matter how good you can be in the ring and how talented you can be in wrestling if you cannot evolve you character, mic skills and charisma you WILL fail miserably in WWE and I will go far and say that not everyone is meant to be a success in WWE and thats okay. Ricochet is a big example of that, he is very agile and athletic but he has little to none promo skills and his lack of character cannot sustain his charisma, people from the independet circuit lack a lot of that and it shows everytime they are on TV.
@dwightyboy5324
@dwightyboy5324 4 ай бұрын
It's especially annoying when they don't want to adapt and just be more than good in ring, they think that the vast majority of it's just in ring. Guys like Seth Rollins, AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan, guys like that just got it, while others didn't and refused and blame WWE for it when really they just didn't want to be stars
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 4 ай бұрын
Ricochet and Mustafa Ali are the prime examples of in ring quality not being enough to succeed. Look at Enzo Amore, all character, zero ability. the opposite end of the spectrum
@mister_vulgar
@mister_vulgar 5 ай бұрын
No opportunity? He was in one of the biggest feuds of last year against logan paul. And he simply wasnt on pauls level
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Brother all reports said higher ups were impressed by his performance in the program
@mister_vulgar
@mister_vulgar 4 ай бұрын
@Dylightful and obviously those reports turned out to not be true. Otherwise he wouldn't have been pushed back down to the lower midcard
@mrjdp5660
@mrjdp5660 5 ай бұрын
Better for him to leave wwe because wwe more focuses on character development rathar than in ring skill.i remember logan paul destroyed him in mic. He will be star on AEW where you can get away with only putting bangers in ring
@TrickFF0
@TrickFF0 5 ай бұрын
He’s promos needed work ..leaving is the best thing for him ..can’t wait to see him again in 5 years +
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
His promos are so fine. Genuinely how many of them have you even heard? Not being mean btw, but I really don't understand how people gained this opinion when every time he gets a mic it's solid at worst. He just doesn't get it often is all
@Zdiot
@Zdiot 5 ай бұрын
I would not say WWE failed him. I feel like Riccochet timing on entering the wwe is what ruined things. Even his main roster debut suffered from politics a lot. It was the time where no one was safe even Roman Reigns. Only the guys who vince loved and when Vince was not in charge and the biggest problem is what is his character. Why should fans care and its pretty hard to care honestly. He suffered from little to no character work just get him in a match let him do fancy things(who does this remind you of insert any high flyer here ______). Ricochet is great I feel he could and still be a great maineventer who can draw emotion from people his match at Lucha underground proves this and his match with Osperay as well.I think he should stay with WWE but he will also have to prove his worth and that is where I fear cause its hard to be over nowdays. Also am done with exams I know it might have been a small interaction but thanks for wishing me good luck bro
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Largely I agree and feel you on this take. Especially about his stuff in lucha underground ^^ Also anytime homie, hope you did well on them my G :)
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 5 ай бұрын
@Zidiot it is hard 2 get over because wwe does not cater 2 wrestling fans. Also said "fans" are fickle ungrateful and turn on their favourite wrestlers on a dime. Ricochet does not need 2 prove anything to a company that condone bullying and sexual assault! He is better iff with wwe. Do not believe me? Look at Matt Cardona or Christian Cage.
@obsessivefanboy7
@obsessivefanboy7 5 ай бұрын
Nah. Ricochet just didn't have "IT"
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 4 ай бұрын
To be fair most guys don't, but I still disagree. He never had that moment to find IT. Imagine punk without the pipebomb for example. Punk fucking smashed that opportunity when it came, but without that promo I doubt he would be in the goat conversation or even as sought after a performer as he rightfully is.
@colindowden2182
@colindowden2182 4 ай бұрын
​Cm punk actually has good mic skills and charisma ricochet has neither but his wrestling skills aren't that unique anyways since there are a dozen of indy midgets that can do the same shit in WWE and everywhere else. I still think he could've been an opening mid-carder but being a main event is pushing it since he's nothing unique.
@Zxlxya
@Zxlxya 5 ай бұрын
They didn't he just can't cut a promo and has zero charisma. He's just known for his moves and being bald
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
His promos are totally fine imo, but again your opinion is yours
@ashtontan5226
@ashtontan5226 4 ай бұрын
He’s definitely reached his ceiling in wwe he definitely have a decent career winning both midcard titles but realistically he wouldn’t win a world title
@melvinpw-lr8px
@melvinpw-lr8px 5 ай бұрын
Ricochet genuinely doesn't cut a half bad promo and rarely misses in the ring. WWE absolutely dropped the ball if he's gone now
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Amen, let's hope he sticks around and they redeem themselves
@dominicsmith743
@dominicsmith743 5 ай бұрын
I don't know. Logan Paul destroyed him on the mic last year. Then he didn't really shoot back at him at all. And that was despite Logan involving Samantha Irvin in the program. That was an opportunity for Richochet to show he had solid mic skills, and he didn't. I also can't recall a memorable Richochet promo. Even if he isn't as bad as some people say, he still never left a good impression on the mic. Now sure he may be better in the ring than a lot of main event guys. But guys like Roman, Drew, Cody, AJ, Randy Orton, CM Punk, and Seth are way more well rounded. I mean even guys like Sami Zayn, Gunther, Chad Gable, LA Knight, and Bron Breaker have been more interesting than Richochet. And none of those guys have been world champion on the main roster yet. Although Gunther looks like he should be champion at Summer Slam.
@john-murraynewman-scotch6567
@john-murraynewman-scotch6567 5 ай бұрын
Ricochet is terrible on the stick, Logan destroyed him and Drew nearly ended his career 😂. Great in ring but he is the sort that should go to Japan where they don't need to talk.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 5 ай бұрын
@dominicsmith743 If you actually bloody paid attention you would see that Ricochet is actually decent on the mic bit I guess you were too busy sucking up to that wannabe Logan. Seriously I am sick of you ungrateful fans putting down guys like Ricochet! He worked so hard and all he gets is neglect from management and neglect from ungrateful smarks like you!!! Jeff Hardy sucked on the mic but that did not stop wwe from putting the wwe belt on him!
@Pack52022
@Pack52022 5 ай бұрын
​@@john-murraynewman-scotch6567when your in wwe usually you will get destroyed on the mic at least a few times. i cant name a time they gave richochet a good time to give a promo. He isnt terrible but not great either. Look at gunther he isnt outstanding on the mic just decent. You can make it far with average promo skills
@abelaklilu1070
@abelaklilu1070 4 ай бұрын
Ricochet should’ve been apart of the lucha story, it would’ve been an amazing add to rey and dom and Andrade and santos and carlito, and dragon lee. All of em apart of one story would’ve been special
@marcuscrespo5951
@marcuscrespo5951 5 ай бұрын
If he came back as Prince Puma, THEN he’d be pushed properly. I’m probably alone in this, but his stint in Lucia Underground as Prince Puma was insane and is what made me believe he would thrive in WWE. Plus, Puma was showing signs of being a heel, which is something I don’t think Ricochet can do.
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Oooooooooo that could be really interesting actually 👀👀
@sandiletwala3001
@sandiletwala3001 5 ай бұрын
It's not that he's not been given opportunity, it's just he's frustrated that he's not given time to cut promos and express himself more because I feel he can cut cool promos but he's not given that chance
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I fully agree with this take here
@vivekbanala4904
@vivekbanala4904 4 ай бұрын
Hhh used him really well from royal rumble from that Logan spot
@heyitsnovaa
@heyitsnovaa 5 ай бұрын
If Ricochet leaves, him in CMLL or New Japan would be amazing
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Prince Puma coming back 🗣
@RandyIto
@RandyIto 5 ай бұрын
always liked ricochet, hopefully he can have another run in wwe and have some better booking/achieve his potential, always loved seeing the stunts and whatnot he does
@phuduc2426
@phuduc2426 4 ай бұрын
ricochet remind me about rey 2000s, he coudn't talk a cut a good promo but why we love him, that's because he have his own gimmick "legendary luchadore and super underdog" that he can connect with the fan, i remembered in 2019 when ricochet won the us title wwe want to build ricochet like that but in the end he coudn't connect with the fan, especially with thr young fan
@MrironicX
@MrironicX 5 ай бұрын
The WWE Didn’t failed Ricochet he Ricochet failed by being trash on the mic. If he goes AEW he will be be in the same spot because he can’t talk and he wouldn’t stand out because everyone in AEW can do flips and kicks bruh he’s a charisma,vacuum his promos is so bad work rate isn’t enough to be a star anywhere he will never be a world champion anywhere
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
He's been a world champion already, just not in wwe. Also i mean no hate in saying this, but calling him a charisma vacuum is just lame and wrong. I'm not saying he's got a huge personality, but when he's allowed to cut promos he consistently does well. I do however agree that AEW would be a bad move for him, even still he's plenty good enough at every aspect of wrestling to find a way to succeed so long as he's featured
@MrironicX
@MrironicX 5 ай бұрын
@@Dylightful he can’t really cut a promo That’s why he wasn’t on tv a lot hhh seen that that’s why they didn’t book that good and I didn’t know that because I don’t watch the independent seen only watch WWE AND sometimes.AEW and the independent seen doesn’t matter it’s all about the big leagues He will never be a world, champion, definitely not WWE or AEW
@MrironicX
@MrironicX 5 ай бұрын
@@Dylightful even if he signed back with Wwe he will be IC champion or us champion again tagteam possibly that’s it
@oceancycloneblue5356
@oceancycloneblue5356 4 ай бұрын
Bro was cooked after the fingers video🤣. He can bump like nobodies business tho and his highflying aresnal speaks for itself.
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 4 ай бұрын
Ricochet at the peak of his popularity wasn't even as over as someone like Jey Uso
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 4 ай бұрын
Jey Uso is more over than a majority of babyfaces from across the last decade
@PrettyboyAshtun
@PrettyboyAshtun 5 ай бұрын
one of the best pure wrestlers i’ve ever seen
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I dunno about pure wrestlers because when I think of those my head goes to like kurt angle and chad gable, but athletes I totally agree ^^
@jokesover3433
@jokesover3433 5 ай бұрын
He should've turn heel.
@UncleHarper666
@UncleHarper666 5 ай бұрын
Bro, I wanna know your initial thoughts on the Wyatt Sicks faction. Do you think it can work in the long term? I hope and would love if you make a video about it.
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
So I've been debating on making on a video since the early teases, but honestly the connection to Bray and my personal connection to him as a performer has really influenced a lot of why I have been reserved about it. Bray was a massive inspiration to me personally and I'm a little on the fence. On one hand I adore that Taylor, Rowan and everyone involved is carrying on his legacy and getting this spotlight, but on the other I genuinely couldn't stop myself from crying when I saw the door during the debut itself. I'm certain I will make a proper video sometime, but the emotions hit me really hard in a lot of good ways, but ways that make it hard to formally construct into video content
@Omega5678
@Omega5678 4 ай бұрын
Shame bro didn't get 500 Likes would love to see that video
@Undead616
@Undead616 5 ай бұрын
Ricochet should recover from his injuries and come back with a major push I feel he should start a rivalry with Gunther I know Gunther doesn't have the ic title more but that ain't the point we get a heel Ricochet who just wants to hurt him and maybe have him cause an imperium implosion and that give Ludwig and Giovanni a chance to start a singles career and shine
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 4 ай бұрын
a smaller less popular star wants to hurt and take a faction away from them? Your story is LIERALLY just the Liv vs Rhea story on TV rn
@brodyfigurewrestling
@brodyfigurewrestling 5 ай бұрын
@Dylightful I have a question so that my KZbin channel can be successful how do you edit your videos so that when people at home watch them on TV it goes across the full tv screen?
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I edit in davinci and fill the backgrounds with primarily B-roll footage and render in either 1080p or 4k resolution
@rileyanthony
@rileyanthony 5 ай бұрын
I would say ricochet, failed ricochet as he’s fantastic in the ring but it’s because of his promo ability is why he failed in wwe as wwe fault is not giving him a bigger chance in the main event or not making him look like an attraction that’s is even more proven when you know his old theme was 10X better than his current theme is
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Hard agree on the theme. Disagree on the promo ability. When given the opportunity he does a really solid job at making me care about a match using the horn, his stuff with Logan reminded me of that. And if you trek back to his time in nxt he cut some really good promos in his feuds against dream and cole in particular. Not being given the opportunity vs not having the skills to make the most of the opportunity are two different things. Plus according to reports WWE want to re-sign him so it's not like he's unwanted over there. They see and know the value they have with him under new management, vince and the old guard were the ones who booked him for a majority of it and since trips has been in charge the guy has been injured for a majority of it which just can't be helped. He can be elevated and cook way more than we've seen on the mic imo
@ashtonleonard1994
@ashtonleonard1994 5 ай бұрын
Umm... Question for anyone... I'm just now thinking about as I'm watching this video. What is the description of his character, because it seems to me that he's just a very impressive gymnastic. I don't think he's ever had an angle and maybe that's the problem. And don't say superhero cause that's the basic title for anyone that can flip.
@wesleyclanton8748
@wesleyclanton8748 5 ай бұрын
@@Dylightful He only cut good promos when paired with great talkers such as Dream and Logan. On his own he floundered and sounded lost and unconvincing. Promos and character work carry way more weight in WWE than in ring. Just look at guys like LA Knight and Jey Uso who aren’t super spectacular in the ring but are insanely over due to their mic and character work
@dwightyboy5324
@dwightyboy5324 4 ай бұрын
​@@ashtonleonard1994 that's exactly it, he just doesn't have the character needed. Aside from being acrobatic, that's really all there is to him. He's not a monster, Megastar, jerk, ego driven, nothing like that, just acrobatic and that's about as dimensional as he gets
@biig_silva
@biig_silva 5 ай бұрын
Since there's a HandShake deal with TNA... And since Ricochet and Moose are BFFs.. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I'm picking up what you're putting down and gah damn am I down 👀👀👀
@biig_silva
@biig_silva 4 ай бұрын
@@Dylightful Bruva, this seems cool on so many level: - Reunion with Ali (It only misses Malakai and Alexander to form the Wrestling Avengers 😆) - Joining Moose and the System and subsequent Heel turn - If so, Feud with Ali and Epic X division reign until challenging Moose in a good storyline pitch (I have one in mind actually.. If You wanna share ideas ahah) making him turning Face again and become the TNA World Champ around early 2025. Bruva my head is hurting 😂
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 4 ай бұрын
@@biig_silva Only to feed Ricochet as TNA champ to Trick Williams for an easy dub
@biig_silva
@biig_silva 4 ай бұрын
@@richborn6700 Nah Man, how ahah?
@live-df7lm
@live-df7lm 4 ай бұрын
He made other wrestlers look great. While hunter is high on montez wes Lee etc. he should have realisednthat prince puma is a lucha legend
@Greenarcher707
@Greenarcher707 5 ай бұрын
Yeah WWE made him boring, unless he was already boring in the first place.
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Nahhh, my goat was the highlight of the night for years before wwe brought him to the dance
@dominicsmith743
@dominicsmith743 5 ай бұрын
Great in the ring, unmemorable on the mic. I agree he could have been booked better at times, but I don't think he was ever gonna be a main event guy long term. He just wasn't well rounded enough. There are several guys in the mid card alone right now that are way more well rounded than he is. Much less the main event.
@AliDaGr8
@AliDaGr8 5 ай бұрын
@@dominicsmith743great point. Great in ring ability but he isn’t interesting outside of that.
@Lenzio
@Lenzio 4 ай бұрын
Richochet is such a great guy! i hope he find a good way for himself after wwe
@850bigboy
@850bigboy 5 ай бұрын
it's kind of a double edged sword because even if you did have great promo & character work you'd probably still end up having bad booking & creative i.e dolph ziggler bray wyatt etc
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Idk man, I really don't think we had the opportunity to see how that would be for any of those performers working under triple h. Ricochet had a bit of time, but he was also injured for a good chunk of the time hhh has been in charge
@850bigboy
@850bigboy 5 ай бұрын
@@Dylightful also the other part that we have to remember is that wwe is now under new ownership so even if triple h wants to push a certain talent that he feels like should be at the top of the card they can shut that down quick even the networks can have say so on who they want & don't want to be on certain shows. alot of factors can play a role as well
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
@@850bigboy true, i just wanna see people succeed is all
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 5 ай бұрын
@850bigboy that is because wwe is an entertainment company not a wrestling company and they do not want wrestlers they want "Superstars " F wwe
@JohnSmith-mw8hf
@JohnSmith-mw8hf 4 ай бұрын
They both failed, the gave him tons of tv time and he couldn’t get over with the crowd.
@unfixingbowl5454
@unfixingbowl5454 4 ай бұрын
He could’ve been this generations RVD
@abrhmvlya
@abrhmvlya 4 ай бұрын
Answer is he should stay in WWE and turned heel on the Mad Dragon
@Cam10_84
@Cam10_84 5 ай бұрын
Ricochet was unfortunately in the era of Brock Lesner and Roman Reigns like many others.
@pengonmystoinky9725
@pengonmystoinky9725 5 ай бұрын
I hope Ricochet goes to new japan if he's really leaving
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I could see him doing well over there again
@noCHILL.1-
@noCHILL.1- 4 ай бұрын
Tbh you make it sound like his career was bad. Imo anything before late 2022 was bad but it started to pick up fast. Now he is in a great storyline with breaker and Dragunov. Before he died
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 4 ай бұрын
Because a majority of it was bad and only now was he being featured prominently. Mind you he was injured for some time there, but his only real story since coming back from injury was being game ended by Bron
@investoreddyy
@investoreddyy 4 ай бұрын
He did win the wwe speed championship, does that boost his stats a bit?
@dylang1888
@dylang1888 4 ай бұрын
Ricochet isn't a main eventer. In today's landscape of pro wrestling you have to be an all rounder. Yes he's phenomenal in the ring but he can't cut a promo to save his life. Don't believe me just go watch any of his promos against Logan Paul he got destroyed every single time.
@tayojones9460
@tayojones9460 3 ай бұрын
The guy actually improved a bit but could have gotten better if wwe actually gave him lessons. The cheers from the fans kinda prove your statement wrong so kindly STFU
@BillyWilkerson-re7lr
@BillyWilkerson-re7lr 5 ай бұрын
Ricochet is so hot Samantha is a very lucky lady
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
You are just correct tbf
@madfoxgaming2493
@madfoxgaming2493 5 ай бұрын
Hope he goes to AEW
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
What do you reckon he can do over there?
@nicolerenee5270
@nicolerenee5270 5 ай бұрын
20 minutes gang
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Truly a deeply appreciated gang
@HeOfTheBeginning
@HeOfTheBeginning 5 ай бұрын
LU's presentation of Ricochet as Prince Puma would have worked in WWE, to the level where I think he could have been a world champion if presented with Konan. But taking off the mask lost that sense of mystery and intrigue, without a character or noticeable enough mic improvement (not saying he's bad, but him lacking in it makes a huge difference in the course of being a world champion or not), he has a plain face, in tremendous shape, but would can't connect to the audience well with his moves alone.
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I really think he just hasn't been given consistent opportunities on the mic. Maybe I'm biased some here, but as far as connecting with the audience I think he connects a lot with the kids. My nephews in particular are massive Ricochet fans and they have been for like 3 or so years now. Idk maybe I'm overvaluing that, but without guys like rey mysterio idk how most kids got into wrestling
@JenJacobs896
@JenJacobs896 5 ай бұрын
I already knew WWE has seen the last of Ricochet since he is apparently on his way to either AEW or the Indies. It's time for Ricochet, an overlooked but extraordinary talent, to switch gears & follow the footsteps of Mercedes Mone. Sasha Banks got paid $250K by WWE despite how much she loved pro wrestling and putting new talent over. When she transformed to Mercedes under her revolution, she demanded an eight figure paycheck & Tony Khan agreed to her demands. Kudos to Ricochet for leaving WWE as the grass is usually 💚er on the other side of the fence
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
Respectfully I don't think any of the dirt sheets you've read were accurate about Sasha/Mercedes' contracts as very commonly those published numbers are just not accurate. That aside though, I really don't think AEW or Ricochet would benefit from him joining over there. Sure we'll get some great matches, but he was already having those in wwe. Perhaps not in the main event if that's what you mean, but honestly I think Ricochet stands a good shot at being elevated to that main event in wwe if he stays. The guy is just 35 and has a ton of time to learn, grow and develop as a performer. I just don't trust AEW to properly let him grow considering the surplus of guys they've let slip through the cracks that jumped from wwe. Swerve gave me some hope, but he's just one of many guys who have made the same move.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 5 ай бұрын
The common complaint I keep hearing about Ricochet is his lack of promo skill and how he did not work hard enough to improve on the mic. That is horse #%^^! Ricochet actually got a little better on the mic if you actually paid attention! True he was no LA knight but he was not terrible by any means. Bloody Jeff Hardy was not good on the mic either bit that did not stop wwe from making him wwe champion! The sad fact is wwe took him for granted and never truly gave him a chance. What did they do for him before he was written off? They gave him a belt no one cared about, on a show no one cared about and booked him to job to their new shiny Toy, Big Poppa Bump Jr! Vince or no vince wwe does not bloody care about Ricochet or any of the wrestlers on their roster, so I hope he does not re sign and actually go to a company that actually cares about wrestlers. Not "Superstars ". Bloody wrestlers!!!!!!!!
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I disagree. I think especially with trips putting Ricochet in the speed title scene it painted a picture that he was trying to find the right sort of place for a guy as exciting to watch as Ricochet. I'm not saying the title means something crazy huge, but being an inaugural champion is pretty big and usually indicates that there are big plans for a person down the line. I.e. Adam cole being the inaugural NA champ and then going on to win the big NXT title shortly thereafter. Ricky was also injured for a majority of trips' time running creative so far and hadn't had a ton of time to be slotted into a proper story or feud before getting ready to dip. I do agree that Ricochet is way better on the mic than people give him credit for tho
@dominicsmith743
@dominicsmith743 5 ай бұрын
Well Jeff Hardy had a unique look and sold a ton of merch. Richochet looks like Andrew Tate, and it isn't like his merch is flying off shelves. WWE is a business. They don't see money in Richochet. Jeff Hardy they did. Now, maybe he has gotten better on the mic, but he still isn't at the same level as the guys currently in the IC title scene. I can think of at least 10 people to put that title on before Richochet. Much less actually putting him in the world title scene. As for Bron, it makes sense why WWE is pushing him. Look at him. He is built like a brick house. Good on the mic, and in the ring. The guy is on his way to the main event sooner or later. And Vince isn't even involved anymore. It's HHH and TKO.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 5 ай бұрын
@dominic743 Jeff sucked on the mic and all his stunts resulted in him being in constant pain! At least Ricochet would not have turned into a bloody drug addiction and kill his push!: WWE is a business that condones sexual assault 4 years but people like you do not bloody care because you want "entertainment" Ricochet dd improved on the mic but fans loved him for more than his promo skills. They loved him for his skills in the ring and the risks he takes. But because he does not meet your shallow definition of what a wrestler should be you have the gall to say he is not good enough! You are just as shallow as Vince!
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 5 ай бұрын
@Dylightful Ricochet winning the title would mean something if wwe actually promoted speed more instead of pretending it does not exist! You do not book your inaugural champion 2 lose his first bout post title win!!!!
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 4 ай бұрын
@@zemox2534 you definitely book him to lose the title if he tells you he's leaving the company, why would they keep the title on a guy who's potentially heading out the door?
@allenhardwick7527
@allenhardwick7527 5 ай бұрын
WWE failed to see his talents and I think the other talents are very jealous of his gift to perform in the ring
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I don't know if people are jealous, but I agree that wwe failed to capitalize on him
@jamesprice6015
@jamesprice6015 4 ай бұрын
Smark comment
@dwightyboy5324
@dwightyboy5324 4 ай бұрын
If you're only in the business to put on good matches and not make good money, you're in the wrong business
@jamesprice6015
@jamesprice6015 4 ай бұрын
@@dwightyboy5324 Facts
@SedricSleepzzz
@SedricSleepzzz 5 ай бұрын
He was YOUR NEXT Rey Mysterio and better! 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@Dylightful
@Dylightful 5 ай бұрын
I dunno about better than Rey, but he was/is very special ^^
@colindowden2182
@colindowden2182 4 ай бұрын
Rey actually have charisma.
@dorianortiz947
@dorianortiz947 4 ай бұрын
Dude should be the next rey misterio...shame he's not mexican
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