Did They Fix the 2025 KTM 450 SX-F? - First Ride Impressions!

[@Rambz1]

I got 2025 Honda 250r love it. Can’t wait for that video to come out and if you like the 450r.

[@NeighborVids1]

I was watching you when you were there! We were parked direct to the right of you! You are so fast! 😊

[@jonathangoglin4047]

I would give the Yz450f some serious consideration. I’ve ridden the ‘24 and it’s insanely good in all areas. It checks all the boxes.

[@kingkodex4235]

If you wanna switch it up the yz450f is insanely quick and nice

[@JeffWalker84]

can't wait to ride one! I rode one earlier this year, but it was far from stock. Would love to swing my leg over a stocker and see how that compares

[@wroomfn2414]

riding new yamaha feels like cheating i am a “local pro” and i was a ktm guy for my whole life in 2023 i’ve bought a new ktm and honestly, it felt a lot worse than old chassis. heavy, rigit, difficult to turn, but stable. also i didn’t like the engine at all. coming from 250s i am used to rev the engine high while ktm 450 engines are mellow and are built to ride a gear taller so, i took a ride on a 23 yz450 and was sooo impressed handling was so sharp, engine revved up freely, suspension was excellent even comparing to kyb pro kit on my ktm. i feel like just moving around the track on a yz takes less effort than any other bike. it turns better than a 250, and one of the biggest advantages is its flexibility. you can either comfortably fly around the track on a higher gear or blast the corners on a gear lower, this bike works great for every riding style. i feel like the only disadvantage is that comparing to ktm yz is a bit more unstable, thats it

[@JGreenwood238]

Glad to hear you like the new chassis, just picked up a 24.5 MC 450 FE & I’m absolutely loving it so far!

[@Justin_sisti]

I just did a comparison with my 22 Honda 250 compared to a 25 and it felt like a totally different bike. I was able to switch between the two bikes back to back and the new Honda frame is very compliant and the rear wheel feels so much more connected to the ground. I was very hesitant to believe the “new” frame would feel much different but I was really impressed. Picking up a 25 next week!

[@yukonjon5964]

the works edition gets you the 110 rear wheel set-up on top of everything else, so i'm sold on that plan.

[@DeanoLupi]

When you find a bike you feel right with, you can just tell. All the mods can't fix how you feel on a certain brand. That is whyvthere is 7 different (9) including Triumph and Ducati thst are in a market of some of the most pickiest and smartest pro riders on the planet. Ricky Carmichael even said, Winning isn't cheap.

[@jacksondavis6472]

Completely agree I couldn’t make the new chassis feel right for me.

[@CryptoJace]

Bro I'm a ktm owner, the factory editon. Love my bike, but until they fix the angle issue with engine causing an bind up in the rear. Its a pass for me. No matter how loose you have the chain will still cause a binding issue with the rear suspension. Lift the rear wheel while bikes on lift, ride JBI has awesome video on this explanating why the bikes dont feel right!

[@Ty-no8lj]

My bikes (22.5 250sxf) manual calls for 58-61mm, I run 67-72 because of what you stated. Its what im comfortable with running. 4 fingers at the back of the chain slider lol

[@MartinezHQ]

You hold onto the full grip, then pull your clutch with your middle finger when you need to. I always ride with one finger on the clutch. Pretty cool to watch you do that.

[@waynestuebner6936]

Sorry for my ignorance Jeff but I just don’t understand why you need a new bike. If you like the 23 gas gas wouldn’t it be cheaper to just rebuild the motor and get all new bearings and grease it. Maybe rebuild the suspension and wheels as well. Is it that you just ride so hard and so much that the frame gets weaker or you just wanting a new comfortable base to start the season with. Please respond bc I would really like to know.

[@Matejlovedirtbikes]

i think that you like someone typed earlier should hop on a yami,they are pretty nice.

[@TboneSTEAK111]

Can hear the difference in motors on the new gasgas. Much more throaty meaning the exhaust port/bore is bigger allowing for better low end.

[@MartinezHQ]

I recently want from a 23 kx450 to a 25 yz450. Biggest difference is how light the yz feels. I would love to ride an Austrian bike sometime.

[@danielschwehr8414]

Excited to see what route you go, but I haven’t forgotten how hard you were ripping that 24 kawi 😏

[@MotoMatt418]

All the 23/24 needed was ~7+ hrs on the chassis right? I love my 2023 350 sxf.

[@jannikblume177]

That track looks so good😍

[@Stitchyyz]

I would definitely give yamaha a try with how well their riders are doing even though most are on factory bikes

[@talonsoenksen87]

I think the Gasgas with stock triples (cast) is even better than the new frame with billet clamps and gives more flex in the chop

[@jrader26]

I really see a bright future with you on the blu cru 😎😎😎🤷🏻‍♂️

[@KasperGamingVideos]

Let’s recruit him

[@mitchellringel2059]

I used to live a mile from delta, such a nice track

[@stormchaser238]

I’m a big fan of yours I watch all your videos on KZbin

[@Kyriakos12]

I believe 25 yz450f is your go to

[@Randy_Cox]

In my opinion you need to stick to the bike your on and just sharpen it. Changing bikes every year has to be hard as hell as your not sure if it's you being slower or the bike.😂

[@JeffWalker84]

Definitely some truth to that! There’s a reason Kenny can still win races on a 15 year old Suzuki🤣

[@swm]

Can’t wait for the Honda review. I miss the Honda

[@Thatguycheese-w1r]

Yo great video! Do you have any tips for lean commitment? Much appreciated if anyone helps lol

[@adriangalvez5104]

I really want to see the honda and jeff walker connection again😂 hopefully u really like the new honda.

[@mattparsons5423]

Just got a 24.5 gasgas 450...need some rain in central indiana.

[@deathcass]

This may sound weird but one issue I have is which gear to be in for corners. Can you do a video talking about gearing for a 450 and a talk through in a video maybe? Basically I’m in 3rd over jumps, 2nd in between. And shift to first right before corners. I have no idea if that is correct and have saw no videos talking about it I haven’t been able to do SX tracks because I shift to first on corners and it’s such a tight corner that the bike slows down and dies. If I pull in the clutch I slow too much and fall. I assume I’d need a smaller or a much lower geared MX bike to do those.

[@nolanbennett6617]

I think you got off the Honda a little too soon, from the 2019 bike. I have a similar built 2019, compared to my 2023 crf450 it’s night and day. it’s such a comfortable bike, headshake problem has improved as well. Your style would suit it great

[@mckyvr]

From watching it seems like the Honda is good and I have traditionally been a Honda rider, until this year when I got a Stark Varg (yes alpha version but no I don't use that mode, haven't been to a beach race yet). While you can't race one, Have you ridden one or are you going to get to ride one?

[@raskymoto]

Who else wants to see jeff on a yamaha?🙋🙋

[@daneunderwood8683]

im thinking honda might be the way, i rode a 25 crf250r and yeah, shes pretty good

[@JeffWalker84]

Y’all know I love a good Honda!

[@griffincox39]

How do u jump the jumps with holes going up the face?

[@devinwright131]

Notice any less performance with the BrakeTec components?

[@Jenks223]

What bend bars do you run Jeff

[@nathandowns369]

25 Honda. Or yami

[@Corporate9224]

Rmz 450! and you can get four for the price of two KTMs lol

[@jmangames5562]

Why not Yamaha? It has long been the best IMO. Stay fast, stay safe!

[@Funko138]

First, love the vids!

[@SamBrotherman]

Nope 3rd

[@jaredc6591]

what bar setup was he running that you didn’t like?

[@dominicsearl1543]

as someone else from michigan i would love it if you put the name of the tracks where your riding so i can go to them aswell

[@DamonCass]

delta raceway

[@SpeedDemonExpress]

The reason people complained about the stiffness was because the chain slack was too tight and binding up. I think it requires 78mm minimum iirc to not bind. Ktm put out a bulletin on it but most people ignored it or say, "my mechanic this or my manual says this" they are incorrect. You must use the updated chain slack spec to not bind. Easy way to checl is to disconnect the linkage and run the swing arm through it's travel and look to see if it binds.

[@KyleCrandall]

What part of Michigan u from

[@zmx6239]

What bars do you run?

[@sickair45]

Go YZ450f

[@mav459]

My brother let me ride his bike and he asked why I was being so gingerly. This right here lol.

[@thefinerthingsinlife5963]

Go to who’s going to pay you the most Jeff!

[@mxtommy2]

First comment Nice riding.

[@SamBrotherman]

I was first

[@mxtommy2]

@@SamBrotherman nah 💀💀

[@SamBrotherman]

First ❤❤❤ You dropped a📌

[@Raptor700Williams]

Yamaha 450

[@gmanhall43]

Are those xact pros or 6500 kit forks on your bike?

[@JeffWalker84]

They are XACT Pro Cone Valve spring forks

[@Factory132z]

Mike Brown -what are chassis issues? lol

[@JeffWalker84]

Don’t think they would have made such drastic changes if there wasn’t a problem!

[@Factory132z]

@@JeffWalker84 Oh I agree bud i am on a 24.5 450 on CV forks and super T shock. I had a lot of issues finding comfort on the 23 but this 24.5 was instant. almost no chassis Break in time and corners are way better. I always comment about Brownie because he won everything he raced on that chassis vs. us mortals lol 😂

[@ReklessStandard]

I always like to think borrowing another dudes bike is like bumming a cigarette from somebody 😅

[@iCookSlip]

Hey Jeff I need some advice bro. Do you think it’s too late to take motocross serious and become pro at the age of 19? I been riding since I was like 6, and then stopped at 13 after breaking my leg. I’m starting to get back into it, I’ve been riding here and there, I still have some skill and speed. I just wish I kept riding ..

[@yukonjon5964]

dude, i didn't start racing till i was 25. and feel looking back that a man can handle intense speeds just fine till about 35. you got tons of time to go for it! i suggest signing up as a Moto Academy member, going on their site and watching a bunch of AJ Catanzaro's older vids on riding style. especially the ones with Jett teaching hand/grip position (his palm does not touch the bar!). it's life changing stuff and can make ya way better faster. Ryno teaches similar stuff but only takes ya so far.

[@iCookSlip]

@@yukonjon5964 this just gave me some hope. Appreciate your comment tons bro. Thanks❤️ I will look into those video for some help on riding.

[@yukonjon5964]

@@iCookSlip cool! yep this whole style of keeping your back straight, rear way back and heels lower than the pegs adds so much stability and traction and reduces arm pump. the part about gripping the bars like your holding a screwdriver only works well with the above style because there is never that much loading on the arms. it's how Jett rides and much of the world is now watching that style and trying to learn it. Stephan Everts taught it to the Lawrence brothers, but guys like Ryno and AJ have been teaching it too. starting out with correct technique creates better habits and is safer in the long run. i really like AJ's approach to only riding at only 80% to stay safe and not letting those around you pressure you to ride over your head. he says every time you ride we should be training ourselves one key aspect of being better. not letting our desire to win get us into trouble, but focus on being precise and consistent. once we gain skill we will naturally just be faster without trying to be fast. these philosophy's are good for the sport and will help it grow.

[@ryanwitlox6895]

What bar do you run?

[@JeffWalker84]

Renthal 827 with a 5mm riser

[@chrissnydez]

Jeff, what bars do you run?

[@JeffWalker84]

Renthal 827 with a 5mm bar riser.

[@urbanhagman2078]

@@JeffWalker84 Relevant question: How tall are you? ;-)

[@Mx4Jesus_17]

Is the triple in the middle possible

[@JeffWalker84]

Yeah, people hit it all the time. I just don’t feel the need!

[@Mx4Jesus_17]

@@JeffWalker84 I understand

[@gw4717]

Just do the 2025 Husqvarna brother

[@yukonjon5964]

but only the Rockstar edition as it is not missing the suspension travel.

[@stevesmith756]

Nope still the stupid radiator cap and you still can’t reach the shock compression adjustment

[@CoventryRacing]

I definitely enjoy how planted the GasGas bikes feel. Power feels very smooth in my opinion 👍🏼 it’d be awesome to see you on a new GasGas for the 2025 season 🤘🏼

[@manny.9273]

Try the 25 honda or wildcard dialed in rmz😂

[@janniksims5740]

Doing the Roczen would be fun tho. Get one for cheap and put all the parts on it.

[@manny.9273]

@@janniksims5740 thats what im sayin

[@NickZambeck]

I am right on time

[@JeffWalker84]

You're just here to slander the KTM

[@NelsonGeorge-s9e]

Bartell Trail

[@hermanwarner9406]

In Texas at a shop called iron supply. They have two brand new 2023 gas gas mc 450f and one factory edition

[@sbedwell23]

Respectfully, I think you should find a bike and stick to it. Constantly changing brands every single year trying to find the best chassis is not going to affect lap times.

[@JeffWalker84]

If my gasgas was a currently-produced chassis, then I would absolutely stay on it. Apart from trying the new chassis last season, I've been on the same KTM platform since 2020! But yes, I absolutely agree with you.

[@sbedwell23]

@@JeffWalker84 What is wrong with just staying on the current gas gas frame? I don't see the need for a new bike if you're comfortable on the older chassis. Just freshen up the used parts.

[@johngray722]

in 2025 you wont be allowed to race nationals on a 2023 think 2024 is the oldest you can race on kevin moranz was on about this

[@JeffWalker84]

I believe there’s a 3-year homologation rule, meaning a 2022 will still be raceable in 2025. (According to the AMA rule book)

[@johngray722]

@@JeffWalker84then why not buy a new frame and rebuild the engine

[@williamgoske1178]

5 year rule​@@JeffWalker84

[@williamgoske1178]

​@@JeffWalker84 5 years

[@tylerruckdeschell]

Most of the new things for the '25 models can be done to the older bikes (like the engine mounts), and vice versa. Having gone from 22/23/24 to 25 with my Huskies (been on every model/gen since 2016, and KTMs before), I can tell the differences (although they are minor for me at my riding level). I'm preferring the 25 so far (also, I'm on 350s, not 450s 😋).

[@nik-wg4zz]

Братишка привет, смотрю тебя очень давно, ты молодец. Можно видео про тренировку тела

[@lucaseelen5123]

Yamaha

[@Gaik526]

Just get a new Gas Gas

[@Joe-pg3kg]

There is zero difference other than color. All the “differences” Will be changed by anyone serious anyways it’s a joke they have tricked people into buying 3 colors of KTM.

[@Luka-ys2eb]

A 24 gas gas is a 23 ktm

[@pherocious2595]

Gas gas has cheaper parts

[@Joe-pg3kg]

@@pherocious2595 only brakes really

[@mememamemes4408]

husqvarna has a completely different rear swingarm its higher set on the frame and shorter and gasgas is pretty much the same but uses slightly cheaper components to make it easier for people wanting a ktm engine for less money

[@Feral-Angst]

2025 gasgas man! Just wait till you get your setup on the new chassis, the hype is legit!

[@superdave4725]

....

[@bobbyskillz14]

You were your fastest on Honda go with the 25 Honda or Yamaha. gas gas is just a shitty ktm

[@coreygallant4933]

get on a beta @betausa !