Did This Drumline Take it Too Far?

[@ShadowMonkey69]

Now I wanna see an indoor drumline show based on Pearl Harbor

[@CalW44]

Wild

[@jason24669]

Or the OJ Chase

[@Gabe-u7h]

Or Chernobyl.

[@RCPercussion]

Or what happened on June 4th, 1989, as if anything even happened

[@necrotazer]

There actually was one at the TIA Atlantic Coast Championships this year

[@GreyhoundFTW]

“There’s been a second marimba”

[@Konnerkingg]

Underrated comment

[@JT565M29]

The scene is just Eric whispering into Scojos ear. “Sir, there’s been a second marimba”.

[@souljynx]

THEY HIT THE FUCKING GOCK BLOCK

[@skraegorn7317]

There was a show choir who also did a 9/11 show, the Carmel Ambassadors. They started out with New York, New York, then they blew up the towers with pyrotechnics. Then they put on filthy tattered versions of their previous costumes, by the end they were singing “Light ‘em up” in front of footage of the Navy raiding Bin Laden’s compound. I was a volunteer at my school’s show choir comp and I thought my friend was just joking when he said Carmel had a 9/11 show. It was awful. It’s been 7 years and I still can’t believe they did it. It felt like a 30 Rock joke, I don’t know how it got through so many levels and nobody said no. They’ve since been trying to wipe every trace of that show off the internet, but you can still see it.

[@jacksonstegall]

the part where they explode😭 who writes this stuff

[@michaeltheepicc6488]

the writing staff... DUH

[@callixvision6481]

Out of touch theater people

[@mrrandom3207]

What's wrong with it? People need to learn about it. They make movies about this all the time.

[@definitelydoctorproctor]

this is not the comment to read 30 seconds in

[@alanholck7995]

There were several former members of the Bayonne Bridgemen and Garfield Cadets killed in the WTC collapse.

[@ertyboi944]

Oh 😭

[@threydrey328]

how do you know that?

[@alanholck7995]

@@threydrey328 Was on RAMD about 2 weeks after

[@landon7006]

“Ok uhh back to 9/11 here”💀💀💀

[@oldguy445]

No. They did not take it too far. Played "Flight Of Valor" by James Swearingen a couple of years ago for Veterans Day Concert. It was about Flight 93. As long as the performance doesn't mock the tragedy (whatever it may be) I'm all right with it.

[@ALC0890]

We played that for our spring concert this year! Beautiful piece and fun to play.

[@oldguy445]

@@ALC0890 I also enjoyed playing that piece. It had a lot of sonic imagery.

[@AlexanderNguyen]

Thanks for the shoutout! A very bold yet captivating show for sure, glad I could capture it for history. Probably some of my favorite Infinity Quad Features in this book.

[@angrymarshmaIIow]

"Collapse" is crazy

[@saferat10K]

I saw this show at the florida circuit premier and this regional, the collapse took everyones breath away every time. Honestly the quietest i've ever heard a gym full of people.

[@ArchieBC]

Impressively executed. Bold and creative. I suppose 23 years is “long enough” to wait before doing this for most but it’s such a complicated subject for a piece like this.

[@matthewwhaley874]

One of the best Madison Scouts shows (2011) was a 9/11 show. It is interesting to me how many people had this go right over their heads. I even remember someone on DCP commenting why do drum corps shows insist on having storylines and why can’t they just play good music like Madison. I pointed out their show had one of the most explicit storylines that year, including the collapsing towers done in drill. Just because a show doesn’t have narration doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a story.

[@NapoleonicSoundArts]

That show was one of the most difficult, and important, shows I've been fortunate to perform in. The corps even visited the 9/11 memorial and museum, along with the 9/11 Tribute museum during the tour that summer. We sang the corps song at Ground Zero. Thank you for remembering it.

[@electricitysgaming5383]

No shot this is real Oh crap its real

[@walterdockins8475]

I have to say, I'm not a big follower of indoor percussion but there are shows that wow us, and shows that put us to sleep. There are themes about war, death, Greek tragedy, etc., etc. Overall this was actually a nice show and musically they brought it, especially for early in the season. Having said all that, the theme is a bit odd and of course not all will like it.

[@TheStickCollector]

As long as there's bands covering other tragedies across the world, it should be fine.

[@MaxisaBandKid]

my school was "famous" for doing dark shows. ("famous" because noones famous in HS, but we were also 8 time TCGC PSW champion and 2 time WGI PSW Finalists) Our shows included "This Great Imbalance," about imbalance of power and other things in the world, "All is Vanity," I THINK is about people who are always unhappy, and all we need to "be happy" is more of what we already have. "Trafficked Innocence" WOAH. "Genocide." Just straight up genocide. "Restricted," basically the marching show concept, which was about oppression. People who like NSSH, however, forget that this was the OG show. "Year Zero" kinda confused on this one. Maybe it uses "Year Zero" by Ghost? That would make this a DARK dark show, so I don't know. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" This has sound clips of Hitler, Trump, and the floor is literally a globe that's a red ocean and yellow land. "Only If For A Night" I don't think this was normal, dark show. Maybe F+TM? 2019's show title is probably lost to history I don't think they were champions 2018 or '19, so that sucks. 2020 and 2021 were the same show (thanks, COVID), and oh. my. gosh. "Desensitized" is probably my favorite indoor show that my school did. It's a show about a school shooting, and wow is it awesome writing. 2022 and forward, eh. We won 2022 with "Mirage" which was a show about a mirage... and the mirage was there being... a mirage. The building was real, and I'm upset I was tasked to build the prop they used, which was NOT constructed well. Gorilla tape on flag silks and a frame. Ew. "What About Us," was a show about inequality, which I actually really liked. This year was called "Awakening" and was well written, but after we went to PSO, it kinda went downhill for us.

[@elisha5337]

This and carolina thunder 1999 are aboslutely insane

[@Henry_Games360]

I think that this is partly what marching art shows should be about. Not only entertainment and display of musical virtuosity, but some shows should make people think deeply too. Afterall, it's art!! And this is what art is all about!

[@Noahhoff765]

THE MALLETS HIT THE 2ND MARIMBA

[@Z.T.S.]

Reviews show... just casually plays the whole damn feature😂🙌🏻 you rock man 🙏🏻

[@zacharyash4321]

Another day, another angle

[@profitablejo5132]

This got a little chuckle

[@CollinWestland]

This is the type of show you'll never forget.

[@tarnishedsphincter8672]

I see what you did there.

[@singthelongswansong]

100% not far enough. No explosions? Seriously, I like this and any attempt at “art”. Keep the bar high….. I love how these stories are like “hey, look at us, we’re serious! Plus we play loud drums!”.

[@CtGaming6968]

Video 3 of asking you for a marching snare drum

[@1ivory.]

I remember participating in indoor percussion. We made it to state this year (2024) but we only placed 18/20 in scholastic open A or whatever we were.

[@KyleNally]

No they did *not* go too far. This shouldn't even be a question. My high school's winterguard made a swastika form during a narrative excerpt of "The Dream Deferred" by Langston Hughes at the end of their show. This was in 1993 or 1994, I can't recall which. It didn't even raise a question or a single complaint! Some not-so-fun facts: 1) Just in the US, the CDC estimates that *over 1300 people die of tobacco-related illnesses EVER. SINGLE. DAY.* yet somehow 2) Altria, formerly known as Philip-Morris Cos., is still a publicly corporation with value. Unlike in Grisham's book "The Runaway Jury" they did not, repeat *not* get sued into insolvency. They're still trading! They're still selling a product we KNOW kills people! WHY?!? After 9/11/2001 we bombed the shit out of Iraq, which had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, and after tragically and needlessly losing God knows how many American soldiers' lives in the doing.... somehow we are still on good terms with Saudi Arabia, which very likely *orchestrated* those same attacks (AND much more recently Kashoggi's murder, but that's a whole other conversation). Let's hope fusion power and EVs (non-Musk) get us to a point where we can tell the Saudis to pound sand..... but DAMN. We need to get over 9/11 and move the fuck on. There. I said it.

[@KerryLorah]

Eric. Eric. Eric. Eric. ERIC!!!!!!! East Coast championships at U of Delaware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Corn-us74]

Nah, Carolina thunder 1999 thunder did tho, but I do gotta admit the the explosion part was absolutely WILD

[@as0-gamer999]

Was that the holocaust show?

[@greenworkstu]

“Sir, a second tenor has fallen on the field”

[@benmcdaniel]

I'm glad I'm watching this in my own home so no one can hear me laughing when the prop towers spew out black paper.

[@gavin_bigred]

First for the first time in a while! Also are you ever going to do another costume contest? Me and my friend got third place back during the first and only one haha

[@EMCproductions]

Congrats on first comment! I might do that again in October.

[@gavin_bigred]

@@EMCproductionssweet!

[@humanperson-ef5gm]

Okay, this is actually insanely good musically. But idk about the whole 9/11 theme. It's a bit weird.

[@WTurner859]

My senior year show in 2006 was literally just called "Bipolar"... Yeah, I don't think you'd see that nowadays.

[@blaiseayala9131]

Check out their 2021 show during Covid. It has some sick beats

[@SamTheTriangle]

Thanks for not clickbaiting us.

[@brandonm1708]

Idk what to think of this, but I’ve definitely seen better performed art about that event. My example is Come From Away, which is a musical about the aftermath of that day. They never try to recreate the towers falling or anything that could come across as cheesy, since we all know what happened, and each time the topic is directly addressed it is addressed like a tragedy, with the music only helping that. It seems like this medium is much harder to convey those sorts of emotions through percussion and without dialogue, so this performance left me confused as to what they were trying to accomplish other than say “Do you remember this happening?”

[@drewracer777]

This is kinda how I felt as well.

[@ferretyluv]

I feel like chops just don’t go with 9/11. I don’t understand why common core is talking about 9/11 like it’s something in the far past. We were never taught about Challenger exploding as if it was ancient history, like they’re teaching about 9/11 in schools nowadays. This just doesn’t seem appropriate as a way to demonstrate chops. Just like with the Holocaust one, I think some stage directors are a little confused about whether this is a dance show or a marching band. The throwing the “ashes” also looks a lot more like they’re playing with it, I’m not sure what they’re supposed to be representing with that. It also is treating 9/11 as if it was literally only about the towers collapsing and not the massive terrorist attack. The Holocaust one at least felt more sensitive to the victims and the history. This feels just like “buildings collapse, what a metaphor,” like a 20 year old who wasn’t even alive yet wrote this. It’s like they went too far and not far enough.

[@Miner-zn4lt]

They should've had the towers collapse in the show, but did more to show that as a united country, we came back, we became strong again and didn't let it destroy who we were. They could've made it about coming back together after tragedy as a community. The ashes always on the floor, as it is something that is never to be forgotten Make it less about the incident and more about how it affected the country and how all of our differences were thrown aside

[@vincentaddesa4866]

This show is hotter than the 82nd floor of the South Tower!

[@jacobbarrie_]

100% too far. Drums in a gym just isn’t the right medium for subject matter this serious. Something about literally having towers collapse in your show, and then playing a bunch of rudiments is so tone deaf.

[@singthelongswansong]

Drums were meant to be divisive?

[@Lady_Mando]

You’re not only wrong, but stupid too

[@DagothUr69]

Invalid. Music is art, and art is supposed to make you move you emotionally and be provocative. There's music and dance In theater too, are you saying dear Evan Hansen shouldn't be a thing because it talks about suicide? RCC did a show about rape and manipulation in 2016, Rhythm X did Kurt Kobain's suicide in 2022 and those are only a few examples. Stop trying to cancel art

[@Lady_Mando]

@jacobbarrie_ You’re not only wrong, but stupid too

[@michaelpatri9408]

twin towers on stage left*

[@tylerlawson5923]

Damn you beat me to it

[@bobbarksofficial4335]

What in the Testament

[@maec7391]

it didn't really seem like you even considered that this show might have "taken it too far".. almost as if that isn't the premise of the video and you wanted to make a clickbaity title.. i think that's the most offensive thing here tbh

[@stevechrollo8074]

I want to see an indoor drumline show based on slavery

[@FigmentForever]

Was a part of the Deshler High drumline 03-05 & miss my former percussion pals. Just came across this channel randomly & so happy I did. Great stuff sir. I was the only female snare for 9 years til 2007 & my back sure feels it! 😂 37 but would do this all over again, as DCI was one of the best experiences ever.

[@Official_emdog22]

Hey EMC you should make a video building a drum set out of marching drums. You should use a marching snare drum, a marching, bass, drum, a set of marching tanner drums, and a variety of symbols.

[@michaeltheepicc6488]

next time you do a fundraiser thing can you do it in north Carolina, more specifically west Johnston?

[@JT565M29]

As a current firefighter who was in 5th grade on 9/11, my ptsd is flaring. This is giving me the 343 yard stare. As a drummer, those are some sweet beats but my ptsd is flaring and I now have the 911 yard stare. 🫠😅

[@mrnoname2353]

Video 418 of asking for a Video of you playing exactly 69420 Notes 2 to go

[@christobalinaperez6193]

Video #5 of asking EMC to transcribe the Drumline: A New Beat Cadences

[@theTenorDrummer]

That tenor feature was ridiculous!!

[@richardskalnik8633]

ONLY " TOO SOON" SUBJECTS FOR SHOWS NEXT YEAR! LETS SEE THAT CREATIVITY GUYS

[@zacharykilburn7288]

I really hope DCI approves my pulse night club show!!!( I live in Orlando too!)

[@ddraiss]

I don't much difference between this and The Cadets 2002 show. (Possibly my favorite DCI show of all time) Now if tbey had planes and actually pushed over the buildings that would have probably been too far.

[@DagothUr69]

Shows are supposed to be provocative. Do you really want shows to not challenge you at all, make you think critically? Personally, I'm tired of vanilla shows telling me basic messages. And we all watch tik toks, movies, and shows that have much more controversial/violent themes, so this being "too dark" is not a valid excuse at all.

[@KlockoFett]

This is what Stryke was doing that beat them. The vid is incomplete, but you'll get a good idea of the show. I forget what the theme was supposed to be offhand. Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves, maybe? kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmS7l5RmbreBgK8si=dC-kew_suyG7s9mP

[@suttonjones3605]

I really really don't like the culture behind infinity. Just because they did mandatory training for it this past year doesn't change the fact it happened. With that said, I really wish this show had it's day in Dayton. I think they took a really sensitive subject and turned it into something really artistic and creative. I don't think it's offensive at all. I also love the black material coming out of the towers. A ferry nice touch. I just wish this group had more respect for long standing groups like McM.

[@latingent8547]

Not what DRUM and Bugle Crops was meant to be ,compete on the field no electric equip no dancers no chimes bells. just drums and horns marching skills seems to have lost its flavor 😢

[@HWCFigures-qi5re]

My schools marching band had these white cones as props for our winter show. But the guy checking it to make sure it was stable and stuff. Didn’t know and thought it was a KKK suit.

[@texillini1]

Thought maybe they were going to form a plane ✈️ and fly into the tower. Musically is was hard to figure out what they were doing with the pattern. Have you ever judged high school competitions before?

[@tjmaher5719]

Can you do match grip on the snare drum, traditional grip on the tenor drums, and somehow traditional grip on the bass drums

[@andrewcoates3050]

Hey EMC can you take a look at dci sound sport groups, being in one I'm curious to hear your thoughts on each sound sport group ( note sound sport is allowed to have woodwinds)

[@nicholaskovach2072]

In 2003 there was a central Ohio has a high school do a show about he space shuttle Columbia disaster as an exhibition show. It was interesting, I also doubt there’s any videos out there of it.

[@christinashelby6083]

I bet people get hungry watching your videos, what with that pizza practice pad behind you.

[@JanksBaseball2428]

Nice to see u growing out ur beard after ACC's in Wildwood

[@kurbin.]

can you put marching snare wires on a drumset snare drum? it's been something i've wondered since middle school

[@motomike71]

The weird thing is that probably none of the kids in the ensemble were alive on 9/11/01

[@g-lo3261]

You should totally do a video where you see if Chat GPT can write a cadence.

[@jackigrisard8603]

Do you think they would have gotten a penalty for the black tissue paper if it went off the mat

[@joshlozano2732]

Can you react to strykes show this year? I mostly just want you to transcribe the tenor feature towards the end

[@drumduck6334]

Dude you’re killing it man I love your vids so much keep it up. Also make more skit vids please I miss them

[@Maddoxamos976]

Can you react to the Kennesaw Mountain drum line 2023 season

[@leonardobiggers3451]

That's my school thier performing at :)

[@bigguy6570]

Deeply disappointed the snareline didn't form the shape of a plane

[@briannacharlson8315]

Davis Mark Lewis Joseph Wilson Karen

[@jorgicostava7217]

What a terrible drumline. It reminds me of that tragedy.

[@IrisSappington-s3c]

Young Sandra Rodriguez Jason Gonzalez Donald

[@Zelmazam1]

Love the thumbnail

[@papaleeland]

What marching snare should I get I have no budget

[@Mr.Dobalina_Mr.BobDobalina]

This leaves me with a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

[@Will-fg4tt]

We NEED a new indoor show from EMC😭🙏🙏🙏

[@matt._jd6645]

Watch EQX THE harvest 2018 show

[@ChrisMatheny]

can you do a review on oak grove high school indoor percussion

[@souljynx]

0/10 there was no george bush snare feature

[@Gabe-u7h]

Can this man react to american fork drumline in utah?

[@logancothern3455]

I swear to god I started to hear Minecraft music

[@YippiSkippi]

when someone mentions carolina thunder 1999

[@MAPEX_17]

Good morning video #1 of me asking for Curious George drumming, His animaters took their time and animated really well👌👌👌

[@Apollostowel]

Well, before watching the video and having no opinion, remember Madison Scouts did New York Morning, and that was a 9/11 show. But it was both classy and slammin' at the time.

[@littlepirate411]

Good morning! This is video 253 of me asking for a drumline gym made out of various marching percussion instruments, such as the tenor barbell, and bass drumbbells.

[@isaireyes5129]

It always amazes me how quickly Americans are scandalized when someone brings up that topic, don't get me wrong, in the same wgi there are shows about other tragedies and don't cause the minimal problem, but someone says those three numbers and suddenly everyone loses their minds. Maybe it's because I'm not American, and we've been taught about the tragedies that Americans have caused elsewhere. Idk

[@Marshall_122]

Are Stephen and Linda still together?

[@McShavey]

Wow dude - it's like you ALMOST know what you're doing!

[@Konnerkingg]

Video number 109 of asking you to learn how to play ever long by the foo fighters on drumset. No where near as hard as your bleed and master of puppets videos but still a great song that for the average person is really hard to play. If it’s too easy for you being an experienced drummer try playing the hi-hat 16th notes with one hand like normal.

[@opem1383]

I remember watching this show in 2020 on YT and i would have never figured this was about 9/11

[@That_Guy4381]

If there’s one thing I can count on it’s emcs transcription skills I could bet myself he could transcribe something so well it’s the exact rhythms

[@neverendingslop]

damn! what a throwback! i had the pleasure of seeing this live with my highschool indoor drumline, and once it occured to me what the subject matter was (which was pretty much the moment the props came out) i thought this show would be a big talking point. it seemed i was the only one who thought it came outta left field. eager to hear your thoughts :)

[@SokKim-fb7tr]

Walk UCHS Drumline pls

[@BandNerd6000]

My birthday arrived. And I really wanted to come out the that event but I have no clue if it's even possible.

[@RedDogMamaHD]

Says this video posted 3 hours ago... I am surprised that I saw it so early! I have been working with the Sacramento Mandarins Mushu Crew all week and I am exhausted! Now, a bit of time to relax and enjoy this video!

[@mmmbetter55]

2020 overall was going to be an amazing year. Broken City was on fire.

[@MistaXr]

If u like dark shows there fj reitz hs they were in open class concert

[@pickledealer17]

please shoutout Mr. Sloan!!!!