Did Western Cape Muslims Betray Palestine for the DA?

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@liplip9415
@liplip9415 4 ай бұрын
No matter what race / colour you are people should feel free to vote for whoever they want to and we need to respect that .
@AWB777
@AWB777 4 ай бұрын
It's not that anyone denied them that right. We just want them to identify who they are. So that we can know to avoid them. Like you would a virus.
@fatiema276
@fatiema276 4 ай бұрын
As a Muslim I will disagree on this statement
@corneliapeters7877
@corneliapeters7877 4 ай бұрын
​@AWB777 . This election was not about a majority nor an opposition party. It's was about seats, people who are honest and righteous. We are a Rainbow nation, and we should not only think of culture. And NO I did not vote da.
@nazlidavids7087
@nazlidavids7087 4 ай бұрын
Yes But u must think the DA does not look after us where does our money go to ISREAL terrible i will NEVER vote DA from day 1
@icraftcrafts8685
@icraftcrafts8685 4 ай бұрын
Nope
@tumagolenkwe6692
@tumagolenkwe6692 4 ай бұрын
I'm Tswana 🇧🇼🔥 but this brothers make me proud to be south African, well spoken my brother's
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 4 ай бұрын
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@BorisMotsamai
@BorisMotsamai 4 ай бұрын
Hey monna do you have any clue of these people's Sunni Muslim agenda and mortiferous ideology against non muslims around the world ? .
@shirenearendse9569
@shirenearendse9569 4 ай бұрын
Divide and rule, concept is a Zio strategy.
@gairoonishaboolay4331
@gairoonishaboolay4331 4 ай бұрын
We are a very small minority in this country. I think we should all collectively vote for one party irrespective if we like the party or person. The goal should be to get seats in the National and provincial government to promote our Deen and its beauty. We must make the Muslim vote count
@mogamadgreyson143
@mogamadgreyson143 4 ай бұрын
Like American Muslims are doing,voting against Biden..
@LollyClarke
@LollyClarke 4 ай бұрын
Like the Christian vote, very important
@LollyClarke
@LollyClarke 4 ай бұрын
Muslin at least go to to a Muslim country if they unhappy with America
@ruorick
@ruorick 4 ай бұрын
I'm not Muslim, but the biggest dread I have for this country is having the DA rise in power. Palestine is the measurement for your level of humanity in 2024 and the DA represents the apathy toward humanity in that regard. Dark days ahead if a DA coalition happens.
@deniscoyne5671
@deniscoyne5671 4 ай бұрын
😂
@logicalconspiracist7741
@logicalconspiracist7741 4 ай бұрын
💯💯💯 People don't realize the darkness that awaits if da should get control
@logicalconspiracist7741
@logicalconspiracist7741 4 ай бұрын
💯💯💯 People don't realize the darkness that will be unleashed if da gains power
@ronjared2204
@ronjared2204 4 ай бұрын
There will be less crime, less corruption, more jobs, more investments etc. Only DA run areas don't have corruption.
@abdullahforbes8768
@abdullahforbes8768 4 ай бұрын
So much tender irregularities
@jasont822
@jasont822 4 ай бұрын
It was a national election vote for South Africa as a country, electing governance within South Africa, governance that has been lacking for decades impacting the 62 million citizens living within South Africa.
@SimonSeekoei
@SimonSeekoei 4 ай бұрын
People should be able to vote for who they want.
@nashreenkarlie6787
@nashreenkarlie6787 4 ай бұрын
Shukran for your informative podcast we need to stand together to fight for justice for all humanity
@AMIRAFawziahIbrahimAbrahamsIbr
@AMIRAFawziahIbrahimAbrahamsIbr 4 ай бұрын
TRUE
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 4 ай бұрын
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@BashirMuhamed-ut1jh
@BashirMuhamed-ut1jh 4 ай бұрын
Alhamdulilaha I'm happy to watch this young gentlemen How cool they discussing the betterment of the ummah and the community ow allah reward them goodness in this world 🌎 and hereafter free Palestinian
@andremarais2706
@andremarais2706 4 ай бұрын
I am supposedly a European South African. I am however an Afrikaner and have Muslim ancestors. The stereotypification of any person or group is horrific.
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 4 ай бұрын
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@riyaanryklief8068
@riyaanryklief8068 4 ай бұрын
Love your concluding remarks, add that to the highlights reel🤲🙏 Beautiful message👌
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 4 ай бұрын
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@iqbalmohamed5128
@iqbalmohamed5128 4 ай бұрын
As an individual from KZN, i went above and beyond the call to engage in "voter activism". It was very disheartening to see massive voter apathy within my own very large family and extended family. Very disappointing. Inshallah lets we all endeavour to declare Jihad on voter apathy. The enemies of Islam were hard at work promoting voter registration, up to the extent of holding "workshops" in their businesses to promote voter registration. Jazakallah for all your time and efforts in presenting these stats. May Allah bless you all abundantly inshallah. But the only stat that needs to change, especially amongst the South African ummah, is the "Registered Voter" stat. We need to make our people understand that the vote is another way of "tying your camel". May Allah help us inshallah. Salaams and duas from Durban.
@AlizabelaRosa
@AlizabelaRosa 4 ай бұрын
My partner and myself went to vote but got turned away without being able to vote, there was also voter suppression, new laws that make technicalities take away your right to vote. We were registered but not at the right station, but shouldn't I be able to vote anywhere in the country?
@wot4922
@wot4922 4 ай бұрын
I feel very heartsore for the Palestinians. I'm a non Muslim but I was really hoping for the sake of us South Africans, that the ANC would not win.✌🇿🇦
@julianemperor2554
@julianemperor2554 4 ай бұрын
Ek voel kol fok ol vir n lap kop wat kry wat hy gesoek het
@zulakadewaal8253
@zulakadewaal8253 4 ай бұрын
This is an excellent analysis I absolutely love the figures to prove to these DA 👿👹
@TruthSeeker00019
@TruthSeeker00019 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Perhaps as a follow up post you can discuss why WC, specifically CT, Muslims are so fixated on their religious identity above all else? And how this is reductive of who we are, and a highly problematic form of 'identity politics' which gets in the way of our community being taken seriously, including in the political sphere? Which is ironically how political parties like the ANC can use the Palestinian issue to garner votes in the WC. Challenging the DA and their propaganda machine requires a better and bolder strategy, instead of relying solely on elections, and then only to get scolded like children by certain moulanas for 'betrayal' when the election results don't go out way. This is the kind of political ignorance and immaturity we need to address, along with the fact of deep seated racism and anti-Africanism in the Muslim community. The DA's anti-poor and anti-black stance is what resonates with muslims who voted for them - let's face facts and unpack this as a start. Shukran.
@SLE6741
@SLE6741 4 ай бұрын
@lylm4147 so basically ‘deflect from the issue at hand’ which is about CT Muslims who voted/didn’t vote for the DA? Weird take but ok.
@abrahampresence8297
@abrahampresence8297 4 ай бұрын
When you elect your government, you elect on local issues, not on some war going on in some foreign country. Palistine is not our priority. We have our own bread and butter issues to address, and the undesputable fact is that the DA governs better and with less corruption than others. If you are poor, Palistine become the least of your problems.
@elite7329
@elite7329 4 ай бұрын
Any party that supports apartheid abroad or domesticallt has no bussiness governing in South Africa. The DA are avowed Zionists supporting Israel's genocide of Palestinians.
@BasilBell-g7l
@BasilBell-g7l 4 ай бұрын
W..h..a..t
@iqbalmohamed5128
@iqbalmohamed5128 4 ай бұрын
You conveniently leave out the fact that the DA is pro zionist and anti BRICS. It's very naive to think that the Pro Zionist club in the Western Cape did not take Israel into consideration when voting, while only harping on the pro Palestinian sentiment. The Western Cape is only "run well" in certain areas. Making the Western Cape a comfortable Jewish old age retirement village, does nothing for the majority of the people of the Western Cape, who live in a different retirement village.
@kosiekoos9408
@kosiekoos9408 4 ай бұрын
Greatful to see the WC under DA cos it works. We get along in the WC. Pals must learn a lot to grow.
@nafisasalie6230
@nafisasalie6230 4 ай бұрын
You must be very comfortable in your home
@kosiekoos9408
@kosiekoos9408 4 ай бұрын
Very comfortable. We dont rape and we dont kill. I work and pay my bills. Love your enemy palstine or suffer
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 4 ай бұрын
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@Mark-n5i6t
@Mark-n5i6t 4 ай бұрын
There are 2 kinds of muslims. Those that believe in violence and those that are at peace. The muslims that are at peace voted for their country, as yhey should. Those that voted for palestine, should go to gaza. 🇿🇦❤️🇮🇱
@lunelleoliver2437
@lunelleoliver2437 4 ай бұрын
How did the muslim vote perform according to age? Post Apartheid youth have no loyalty towards the 'old' and vote influenced by what they see or directly experience.
@norman5340
@norman5340 4 ай бұрын
Saudi Arabia is establishing trade & maybe diplomatic agreements with Israel. So can we expect the people who are opposed to the DA, to also oppose Saudi Arabia? So you won't be visiting Saudi, and you will be protesting outside the Saudi embassy, like the pro-palestinian protests? If not you just displaying your hypocrisy and convenient love for Palestine just because it's Jews not Muslims. Like you dont protest about attacks on Yemen since 2015, which resulted in at least 680000 RIPs. In that situation, you are silent. Look into your mirror the next time you are looking for an opportunistic hypocrite.
@Thetruthshallsetyoufree-
@Thetruthshallsetyoufree- 4 ай бұрын
Unbelievable that we would be expected to vote for the future of our country based on what happens in Gaza.What nonsense is this?
@shelleydavis5231
@shelleydavis5231 4 ай бұрын
Imagine how betrayed any voter would feel if their party makes a coalition with another party they would never have voted for. Elections are for the benefit of politicians, its a money and power game at the citizen's expense. Its not just about the Muslim vote, its about the indian, black and coloured vote, people of those groups who comes from apartheid and oppression, for those very same people to vote for a party whose history is that of oppression, division, apartheid, colonialism, unequal rughts based on colour, this is the DA party's history in South Africa. Those indian, coloured and black people voted for a party that did that to their parents and and ancestors. Do they seriously think the DA does not stand for those very same principles? Look at the Palestine issue, therein is the reveal. They bomblasted the ukrainian flag but wouldn't do the same for Palestine, in fact, they abused their authority of state resources and sent their police force out on people who painted palestinian flags on their own homes! On top of it, the DA would not even condemn the war crimes isreal is committing. Good luck to those who voted for them.
@MaudDavids-z2n
@MaudDavids-z2n 4 ай бұрын
Nobody never abondoned Palestine they thought of their country who is in a mess first...
@shelleydavis5231
@shelleydavis5231 4 ай бұрын
That being said, do you put your trust and vote to a party whose history on their cv speaks of apartheid, suppression, oppression, white supremacy, displacement and unequal human rights???
@nazlidavids7087
@nazlidavids7087 4 ай бұрын
We are more in a mess for those who voted DA. They do absolutely nothing for us. Give those people in our townships a few bucks then they vote DA. We know that those people have no brains
@elite7329
@elite7329 4 ай бұрын
"They thought of their country..." By selling out to avowed Zionists?
@fazlinadams-waggie142
@fazlinadams-waggie142 4 ай бұрын
Shukran brothers for the analysis
@ayeshaallie1358
@ayeshaallie1358 4 ай бұрын
Shukran for taking time to collate and present this data. It is reassuring that the muslim community stood firmly against zionist-backed parties. It is alarming that there is an active team trying to sow discord in the Ummah. Thank you for making us aware of it. When I first heard that the DA 'dominated' in the muslim community, the first thought I had was that the Muslims would rather vote for Pro- Israeli party than see black leadership in the Western Cape. This is obviously not completely true, but it links to the concern of embedded racism that many of our elderly have due to Apartheid conditioning. It's great that the previously staunched DA voter has been swayed by the Palestinian cause, but we should also not forget to pay attention to why they voted DA to begin with. Racism/anti-blackness/enabling white supremacy remains a weight in the muslim community and hasn't suddenly disappeared. Freedom of Palestinians cannot be without the freedom of indigenous South Africans.
@fatiema276
@fatiema276 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you on this
@anshaaisha2477
@anshaaisha2477 4 ай бұрын
Shukran for addressing the white elephant in the room.
@Tinker8531
@Tinker8531 4 ай бұрын
DID YOU CHECK THE PREDOMINATELY MUSLIM AREAS NUMBERS IN THE WC. i COME FROM THERE OVER 60% IN EVERY MUSLIM AREA FOR THE DA..
@Skattie
@Skattie 4 ай бұрын
I am so glad for this show,i live in uk, i find the Malaysian musllims are close to my heart because they are un threatening , not like here in uk ,Go guys ,sending love , good luck , when you sing from the roof of the mosque you unite hearts ,my experience!
@reyaantraut959
@reyaantraut959 4 ай бұрын
Alghamdulilah really good insight to show the significance of challenging the false narrative
@RiaadMoosa
@RiaadMoosa 4 ай бұрын
Truth vs Deception. We need to just emphatically push for truth. They’re eventually going to lose because they lie
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 4 ай бұрын
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@MrGismail
@MrGismail 4 ай бұрын
Shukran Boetas, this was and is a very important conversation. I hope many people see this
@ameeratraut7102
@ameeratraut7102 4 ай бұрын
Shukran, this was very informative!
@eleanormaxwell721
@eleanormaxwell721 4 ай бұрын
It is quite simple, you do not vote for an outcome where you live taking into consideration a problem where you go not want you live. If you feel so bad about what is happening in Gaza, go and make a difference there.
@ernestinewatson4444
@ernestinewatson4444 4 ай бұрын
SA born Muslims are free to vote according to their conscious. No Imams should be telling them who to vote for that is against the law. Muslim political parties do not have the depth of experience to manage anything. SA born Muslims are not ridiculous to vote for religion instead of common sense.
@AzizaSayed-n5l
@AzizaSayed-n5l 4 ай бұрын
Shukran guys for bringing up the injustice we live in the western cape but our roads were last cleaned with election time dont talk about the potholes the DA only concern is the white areas we no longer fooled by the DA
@julianemperor2554
@julianemperor2554 4 ай бұрын
Kom Transvaal toe poop hol en dan kom kyk jy in ons wit straate daar is foken geen teer oor nie julle foken ANC het tot dit gesteel
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 4 ай бұрын
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@afroisme5750
@afroisme5750 4 ай бұрын
...DA won lots of votes from Muslim dominated areas...look at the voting districts...for me it doesn't matter whether Muslims vote DA or not...l don't care...
@johannvandermerwe8571
@johannvandermerwe8571 4 ай бұрын
Leave the muslims alone, they can vote for whoever they want
@Tinker8531
@Tinker8531 4 ай бұрын
SO NOW WE NOT TERRIRISTS WHEN IT SUITS YOUR AGENDA.
@felicitynefdt9926
@felicitynefdt9926 4 ай бұрын
Your vote has to be based on something. Usually that would be a shared set of values. It is a big deal whether people support genocide or not.
@BraSAm2000
@BraSAm2000 4 ай бұрын
Iran funded anc but the chopper went into the mountain so they don’t have funding anymore to support Iran
@suhailzn
@suhailzn 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not all Muslims worry about Palestine ppl, we have our own problems to worry about, plus ppl in this country are not radicalised like the Arab country's
@ctguy82
@ctguy82 4 ай бұрын
So y u listening to radicals and their channels? How many radicals attacked you, give us one case you opened.
@suhailzn
@suhailzn 4 ай бұрын
@@ctguy82 what, do u want to fight or just feeling emotional that not all Muslims share ur mentality🤫
@imi1nO
@imi1nO 4 ай бұрын
Muslims fall into the current categories True muslims (cares for their brothers over themselves) Zionist muslims (Muslim by name and pro zionist) Weak Muslims (their main concern is first themselves)
@shaheendanger
@shaheendanger 2 ай бұрын
Please do not regurgitate with your indoctrinated mindset. Nothing to do with irrational radical behaviour. The reason why we are not tested like the Palestinians is because Allah SWT knows that we do not have Imaan like the Palestinians.
@sadiekasalie8619
@sadiekasalie8619 4 ай бұрын
Our imaan is not as weak as the propagandists think. Allah knows best
@mahomedkhan230
@mahomedkhan230 4 ай бұрын
Shukran brothers for providing clarity on the muslim vote in the western cape.
@urallwyz3498
@urallwyz3498 4 ай бұрын
Thank you guys for this talk.
@MaudDavids-z2n
@MaudDavids-z2n 4 ай бұрын
They were thinking of their country first
@icraftcrafts8685
@icraftcrafts8685 4 ай бұрын
Yes hence the term sell out. So now with the gnu they are exposed.
@SurfersCornerMuiz
@SurfersCornerMuiz 4 ай бұрын
@@icraftcrafts8685 South Africa first. Those who say anything else are filthy sellout traitors.
@MaudDavids-z2n
@MaudDavids-z2n 4 ай бұрын
@@icraftcrafts8685 whateva
@elite7329
@elite7329 4 ай бұрын
They sold out their own brothers and sisters in faith for a misserable price.
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 4 ай бұрын
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@kevindaly9203
@kevindaly9203 4 ай бұрын
I am a Christian and fully in support of the South African case against Israel and its position on Palestine. Regrettably elections don’t give us the option to vote separately on domestic affairs and foreign policy.
@suppaggtsatsi7108
@suppaggtsatsi7108 4 ай бұрын
Can you trust the Muslim party, I think we are SA, we have nothing to do with Palestinians, we have our own problems, we can sympathise with but not go overboard as Naledi (Pundit)
@ferozabismilla637
@ferozabismilla637 4 ай бұрын
Yes you can trust a Muslim... Especially a Muslim like Naledi Pandor and Imtiaz Sooliman
@WorldPeace786-j3f
@WorldPeace786-j3f 4 ай бұрын
I'm wondering who put out the stats. Amazed that so many Muslims still voted DA. It would go against my grain and it's in support for Palestine and the ICJ case. But the DA numbers overall to me seemed inflated. Besides, they're so busy selling CT overseas on massive marketing and on dstv "Listing CT" property program, locals can neither afford the rentals, let alone buy in a middle income area. Foreigners with their euros buy Bokaap for a song and the elderly cant afford the rising rates. Homelessness are growing and one sees this leaving the city in any direction. Wealth starts with buying your first home and upgrading later as you wish, as you put down roots and have stability. Our educated youth runs overseas to the UAE, because there's nothing to keep them here. We've got Durbanites moving to CT and neighboring foreigners, but we dont have enough water, schools, universities, hospitals to accommodate. Nobody speaks of these things.
@mariamharris8682
@mariamharris8682 4 ай бұрын
Very true!!
@deniscoyne5671
@deniscoyne5671 4 ай бұрын
😂
@lebohang8405
@lebohang8405 4 ай бұрын
Guys don't harsh on Muslims. DA could have lost votes if their Afrikaner voters had continued supporting FF. The PA with the biggest potential to take voters from DA supports Israel which doesn't help the Palestinian course. ANC suffered in the Western exactly the same way they have elsewhere in the country. Perhaps Western Cape needs Muslim parties
@mogamadgreyson143
@mogamadgreyson143 4 ай бұрын
And maybe we should vote Al Jamaah
@Brentford704
@Brentford704 4 ай бұрын
Wise comment
@faezapetersen8521
@faezapetersen8521 4 ай бұрын
I'm Muslim, but I did not vote DA, I was extremely sad cause I know that the DA does not stand for Islam. And I believe their was some rigging cause no one in my family voted da
@teamrar9213
@teamrar9213 4 ай бұрын
Mashalah, great stuff guy's,clearing all doubts,as a voter In 😢 Bontas I knew Instantly that the DA ,s boastful statement was untrue, Algamdolilah ,we as Muslims would never ever support Zionism 🤓🇸🇦🇯🇴🇿🇦🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴♥️✌️👍
@faroukally1646
@faroukally1646 4 ай бұрын
This is not a case of abandoning the Palestinian cause, but, supporting a party that proved that they have given the province a stable and honest government
@derekmarshall7258
@derekmarshall7258 4 ай бұрын
At 50 as a serious Christian, I voted ANC for the first time ....only in support of Palistine. Our government and wonderful Lady Pandor did a fantastic job at ICJ. We as South Africa are on the right side of history. We showed humanity.
@marlie91100
@marlie91100 4 ай бұрын
So who is going to tell the DA to apologise to the Muslim community? Also the Imams that gave their Muslim communities a hard time should answer why they acted so quickly , trusting the word of the DA without doing proper analysis. The Imams too should apologise.
@Brentford704
@Brentford704 4 ай бұрын
I think we should avvoid turning this into a witch hunt. A muslim living in a shack with no job or food may feel like they're between a rock and a hard place. I suspect many Muslims did but denied doing so in fear of being attacked.
@farahjacobs4434
@farahjacobs4434 4 ай бұрын
A voting station in a Observatory was closed and those voters were redirected to Salt River, therefore impacting the profile of the voter
@quintenfortuin6430
@quintenfortuin6430 4 ай бұрын
Do your data also look at the outcome of voters,u only talk about the DA which other party increase,so the ANC results.last we vote in South Africa for our own future
@Beekan786
@Beekan786 4 ай бұрын
Shukraan for the enlightenment moulanas
@Stitch-g8r
@Stitch-g8r 4 ай бұрын
Stupid discussion. Stop putting another country or religion before our own country. We have enough problems here.
@ctguy82
@ctguy82 4 ай бұрын
Really?? Then why is it they get the land due to what the bible says?? And the people that are living for centuries should leave because you were promised the land 2000 years ago according to scripture
@shaheedaabrahams9512
@shaheedaabrahams9512 4 ай бұрын
We have a problem in our country and it is the rascist Zionist DA. Zionism has a rascist political ideology and the fact that people of colour can vote for this rascist party is concerning.
@abrahampresence8297
@abrahampresence8297 4 ай бұрын
They were not only promised the land. They lived there for ages.
@lilianhaggland2031
@lilianhaggland2031 4 ай бұрын
At the end if the day,no matter where the vote went ,the DA comfortably won the majority in the Western Cape....it is what it is.
@AngelNortje-wx6ww
@AngelNortje-wx6ww 4 ай бұрын
Yes, the DA merely capitalises on the "slacking" of "others"... 26:19
@AngelNortje-wx6ww
@AngelNortje-wx6ww 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, that's why I hold weSizwe waAllah so dearly❤ 18:19
@User-n7d7z
@User-n7d7z 4 ай бұрын
Our hearts are always with our beloved palestine
@LollyClarke
@LollyClarke 4 ай бұрын
And the girls in Afghanistan
@nadeemmoosa7895
@nadeemmoosa7895 4 ай бұрын
Asalaam my muslim brothers in Islam, it is very evident that the DA plays a very devious game and that game is called divide and conquer, exactly what they did to the ANC, hence the ex ANC members formed their own political parties to strip the ANC and allow for DA to conquer
@TickleMeChelmno
@TickleMeChelmno 4 ай бұрын
You people give Europeans way too much credit.
@bilquisameer
@bilquisameer 4 ай бұрын
Aameen. Ma sha Allah ..BarakAllah for clarity ..as we all know that our Palestinian brothers and sisters freedom, self determination, and peace is close to our hearts, we will never abandon them. And we all know that Muslim votes did not and will not go to the Zionist DA and PA, or any of the Genocide supporters!
@LollyClarke
@LollyClarke 4 ай бұрын
What about the girls in Afghanistan, no education and Muslims keeping quite, free those girls too
@suppaggtsatsi7108
@suppaggtsatsi7108 4 ай бұрын
Ppl are aware of the Muslim, ideological laws
@MarioBeukes-vv1uz
@MarioBeukes-vv1uz 4 ай бұрын
Vote for who u want. Palestinian issues should not decide who u vote for.. sympathy votes doesn't count. Muslims voted for DA all along. Worthless discussion gentlemen. Genocide? What does river to the sea mean?
@mohammedaasifk
@mohammedaasifk 4 ай бұрын
Shukraan for the wonderful information i am so grateful for the scholars taking their time to do the research and inform the muslim communtiy about such an important topic.i would like to contribute something to the scholars if you can please send me banking details shukraan once again
@shukreeabrahams8998
@shukreeabrahams8998 4 ай бұрын
Isn't it possible that some muslims applied the hadith relating to changing an evil with your hand if able to so, if not to speak against it, and the last option is to hate it with the heart. Imagine our ulamaa had discussions like this to discuss the issue of the 2 eids. An issue that affects the communities they serve. An issue which we have control over. Now wouldn't that be great. Maybe next time insha'Allah.
@elite7329
@elite7329 4 ай бұрын
Nobody is compelled to vote for the DA or any other Zionist parties, there is no gun against our head. Ibn Umar reported: The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, *“Whoever imitates a people is one of them.”* [Sunan Abī Dāwūd ]
@aalimah16
@aalimah16 4 ай бұрын
The way I see it, muslims in the Cape, largely excluded non muslims. By that I mean, they was no real engagement with other faith communities. To a large extent, non muslims in the western cape, saw the boycotts as a "muslim thing".
@sandradaniels3079
@sandradaniels3079 4 ай бұрын
Exactly forcing your opinion on others as well as restricting them from expressing their individual views...is undemocratic patronizing and downright disrespectful
@aalimah16
@aalimah16 4 ай бұрын
@@sandradaniels3079 I wasn't talking about force. Also, restricting the expression of views is not undemocratic. There are literally "hate" speech laws, libel laws, etc. Expressing denial of certain in events can land you in jail in some democratic countries.
@sorayaessakjee1397
@sorayaessakjee1397 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this information. I was so upset with the DA statement thanking the Muslim community. Since they planted this seed, how do we get the message to the majority of the people in South Africa that what they said is not true.
@User-n7d7z
@User-n7d7z 4 ай бұрын
Thank you brothers for clarifying this issue 🙏
@ayanda6862
@ayanda6862 4 ай бұрын
Yes we did let us not lie.The DA is antimuslim but we Muslims still voted for them
@mogamadgreyson143
@mogamadgreyson143 4 ай бұрын
I am so disgusted at them,they know who they are..
@karenrabie
@karenrabie 4 ай бұрын
They hate Christians as well...but yet we vote for them.
@keithlewis7820
@keithlewis7820 4 ай бұрын
That is so true and not only Palestinian but their own people Ramaphosa really disgrace lady Pandor in every where
@AffectionateMountainRang-xv8gv
@AffectionateMountainRang-xv8gv 4 ай бұрын
So who would you like them to vote for then
@fadeelahk
@fadeelahk 4 ай бұрын
Redemption, alhamdulillah. Great analysis, shukran.
@ReefRenegade
@ReefRenegade 4 ай бұрын
Everyone is entitled to support whoever they want to. The DA and the ANC cannot influence or stop whatever is going on in Palestine. They have now formed an alliance./GNU. Voters need service delivery which was provided by the DA for the past 30 years.
@BasilBell-g7l
@BasilBell-g7l 4 ай бұрын
Really
@ReefRenegade
@ReefRenegade 4 ай бұрын
@@BasilBell-g7l People may not want to accept the fact hat Muslims ran for positions within the DA and ANC. Neither does the Western Cape want to experience the problems of provincial mismanagement. There is some truth but without the Muslim vote the DA would not have grown.
@henrysmit7180
@henrysmit7180 4 ай бұрын
I disagree that we, as the PA course harm. The fact is that you had fully embrace the DA.
@ismailfrancis6159
@ismailfrancis6159 4 ай бұрын
Take away here is that we should always own our narrative. We've always been an influential constituent of Cape society.
@seraajregal4663
@seraajregal4663 4 ай бұрын
We suffered from a 6 stage failure in this last election 1 no Clear guidance on ruling of voting from MJC 2 conflicting messaging on voting rulings ranging from garaam to mandoeb 3 declare people as traitors whilst results were not declared 4 find out there was gross voter irregularities based on the parties letter and evidence to IEC 5 find out Co AN-DA lition is a probability 6 lose all collective voter minority group worth in the end
@AlizabelaRosa
@AlizabelaRosa 4 ай бұрын
I wish the ANC would stop flirting with WMC and just form a pro-Palestine coalition, ANC/EFF/AJ/GOOD is 201 seats.
@toegiedaisaacs6258
@toegiedaisaacs6258 4 ай бұрын
Ameen 🤲🏽
@fatiema276
@fatiema276 4 ай бұрын
The ANC needs to be commended for their loyalty towards the Palestinians and that they took the situation to the International Criminal Court....The EFF has always been supportive of the Palestinians too...we need to give them credit for this huge initiative ....I am not saying that you Vote for the Al Jamah or CC etc as long as are not selling our self to The Evil of all Evils
@Emily-uu2vx
@Emily-uu2vx 4 ай бұрын
Charity starts at home. Get your own country in order before mingling in others.
@henrysmit7180
@henrysmit7180 4 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm unashamedly a PA supporter. Due to the propaganda what what spread in the media had you all think we're anti Muslim. It's hurtful for a Christian man with a who follow the Islam faith. If you are against us for our stance, why can you that just vote as a Muslim block for the ANC. For our colour due to your vote, is it a disgrace for our coloured people, no matter the Palestine/Israel between us.
@altGoolam
@altGoolam 4 ай бұрын
It was disappointing that Muslims did not rally as a political bloc for the sake of Palestinians and international justice, highlighting our failure to inculcate the political consciousness needed to be relevant non-racialist citizens in our country.
@santaadams210
@santaadams210 4 ай бұрын
i was upset because i know people of the western cape was more upset with the DA and we were believing that the DA like the ANC would be getting less votes but they seem to have gotten more votes, which was shocking. I didn't know about the Muslim vote though. Just a question do you not consider yourselves coloured?
@superkevstar1
@superkevstar1 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, that was very informative. There are many lies, stories, and narratives being spread, but it is the facts and statistics that we, the people, need to hear. Unfortunately, public media is controlled by those who push their own agendas. I am not entirely sure how the panel distinguishes between "colored communities" and "Muslim communities." Many colored families have both Christian and Muslim members, and many Christian colored families have Malay ancestors. Trying to distinguish between a colored and a Muslim community disregards the unity of people with a shared heritage.
@mogamadgreyson143
@mogamadgreyson143 4 ай бұрын
That's why we have census..
@pedropfaff8906
@pedropfaff8906 4 ай бұрын
Havnt been in the country since 76 but the way we grew up under Apartheid there was no segregation between Muslims and other Brown People.Dont know whats going on now.
@grantbrown3647
@grantbrown3647 4 ай бұрын
there is no segregation among brown people
@TickleMeChelmno
@TickleMeChelmno 4 ай бұрын
They were always segregated. Zero intermarriage
@AngelNortje-wx6ww
@AngelNortje-wx6ww 4 ай бұрын
What I have at the moment are few, but strong Muslim & Muslima Leaders 46:44
@Sonny-ko2zk
@Sonny-ko2zk 4 ай бұрын
Jesus is the LORD OF LORDS , THE WORD OF GOD IN THE HUMAN FLESH . THE QURAN SAYS JESUS IS THE WORD OF GOD , ALSO THE LIGHT OF GOD ❤.
@nafisasalie6230
@nafisasalie6230 4 ай бұрын
Where do you come ie Jesus is not God he is a prophet of God sent by God like all the other prophets to preach the oneness of God. Worship the God that Jesus worshipped.
@elite7329
@elite7329 4 ай бұрын
'Isaa (Jesus) is just a human being and when he returns he will "break the cross and kill the swine". The Quran calls 'Isaa "a Word from God" (similar to Adam) and not "the Word of God". The biblical Jesus claimed to be ignorant of the Hour so he can't be the supposedly all-Knowing God espoused by the Bible. (Mark 13:32)
@Sonny-ko2zk
@Sonny-ko2zk 4 ай бұрын
How can he be a prophet like Adam ? Then You say , He is not the word of GOD ( Quran ) ? But you say He is the word FROM GOD , even better He ( Jesus ) now comes from HEAVEN SO HE MUST BE GOD , THE SON OF GOD , Not like Adam ,Not like your prophet. or any other prophet. He JESUS IS UNIQUE FROM HEAVEN ??? 👏🙌🙏 . HE IS GOD IN HUMAN FORM , AS WAS REQUESTED AT MT. SINAI .❤️💯
@shabeersayed5903
@shabeersayed5903 4 ай бұрын
Our baseless action reflect to ,how weak our ummah is ..hypocritical. we stand wit Palestinian. But never boycott. We ANC stood for Palestine, but the muslim voted DA.DA
@AngelNortje-wx6ww
@AngelNortje-wx6ww 4 ай бұрын
No, not voting, discussions. Have people active in Circumstance-Prioritization 43:42
@ctguy82
@ctguy82 4 ай бұрын
I didn't vote blue, but we need to be rational and unemotional. Some muslims did vote DA - for economic reasons. Ppl are scared of what MK would do, look at KZN 2 years ago, the EFF being vigilantes, the ANC ruining healthcare, education, infrastructure etc. What muslims need to realise is, many muslims complain about issues, but they interact very little with this sphere, what would be the case if we added 10-20% more effort on this sphere (becoming politicians, being more active etc.). And that will go along way to integrating into the SA society, like maulana highlighted in the talk.
@muhammadwest8199
@muhammadwest8199 4 ай бұрын
A lot of people missed the point of the podcast. The idea isn't to tell anyone who to vote for or what issues to prioritize. What is a problem is when those outside of our community distorts facts and pendles a false narrative about our voting patterns. We are simply asking for a faithful representation of the voting data.
@masambeni
@masambeni 4 ай бұрын
Do Muslims not consider themselves Colourdes?
@Brentford704
@Brentford704 4 ай бұрын
Muslims are multi racial
@tracychoolan9812
@tracychoolan9812 4 ай бұрын
What type of question is that?
@masambeni
@masambeni 4 ай бұрын
@tracychoolan9812 Why has noone answered my question? Can you?
@elite7329
@elite7329 4 ай бұрын
It really depends on the Muslim as Islam is not a race but a religion. There are black Muslims, Asian Muslims, Arab Muslims, White Muslims, etc.
@masambeni
@masambeni 4 ай бұрын
@elite7329 I know but I'm talking in the context of S Africa. Do Malays in SA consider themselves Coloureds. Most I would think are mixed race with African genes
@RuqshanaSohan
@RuqshanaSohan 4 ай бұрын
I am a weak Muslim, please give me hope in the Muslim Ulamah. Will they admit their error now that ANC is in coalition with DA. After all it is our Muslim Leaders that said vote ANC. PLEASE RESPOND.
@elite7329
@elite7329 4 ай бұрын
To be fair sister the ANC wouldn't have entertained the idea of forming a coalition with the DA if they had received enough votes on their own. People not listening to the ulema led to this.
@RuqshanaSohan
@RuqshanaSohan 4 ай бұрын
@@elite7329 Disagree! If a wife doesn't give her husband sex does that give him the right to get into bed with someone else.
@CarolynArendse
@CarolynArendse 4 ай бұрын
Salaam Don't mix religion with politics Anc headquarters invited 3 moslem to tell moslem to vote anc All I say
@ctguy82
@ctguy82 4 ай бұрын
Really?? Then why is it they get the land due to what the bible says?? And the people that are living for centuries should leave because you were promised the land 2000 years ago according to scripture
@AngelNortje-wx6ww
@AngelNortje-wx6ww 4 ай бұрын
The PA priority is the family unit: However, that may be a bit sqewed at the moment... Which I am contributing positively towards... 15:19
@Asia10175
@Asia10175 4 ай бұрын
Those muslim areas make the best food in cape town
@azizgierdien4837
@azizgierdien4837 3 ай бұрын
DA represent the interest of a certain select,plus MSM (controlled by big corporate) is their loudspeaker. But What happened to all their black leaders who left, Ramulifho, Ntuli, Maimane, Mazibuko, Patricia de Lille, Mashaba, Mamphele lady from Agang etc. and so many other black leaders have not lasted at the DA. very telling.
@waliedabrahams1113
@waliedabrahams1113 4 ай бұрын
Your stats you discussing don't make any sense if the DA won with the same % votes.
@sabriesamodien1720
@sabriesamodien1720 4 ай бұрын
We dnt know the true results 😂 when a lot of the votes weren’t counted
@shabeersayed5903
@shabeersayed5903 4 ай бұрын
Our ummah is based on western ideology. ANC, South Africa,taken Isreal to icj,we Muslim in South Africa never boycot any zionist entity's. But the world world boycotted...
@glenosher5748
@glenosher5748 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ surah 5v82 love your best friend 🌹 1 corinthians 13 🌹 Galatians 5v22 🌹 Galatians 6v2 John 3v3-17 Matthew 18v3 🌹 Matthew 5v43-48 🌹 love never fails. Bless those who curse you pray for those who spitefully use and abuse you love your enemies and be perfect as God in heaven is perfect. ❤❤ Love never fails. Righteous and mercy..
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