Die Wise, While There is Still Such a Thing As Wisdom: Stephen Jenkinson

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After working in the death trade for two decades, Stephen Jenkinson asks us to behold death in all its painful beauty. Learning the skills of dying occurs in the course of living deeply and well. In his book, Die Wise: A Manifesto for Sanity and Soul, Jenkinson asserts that dying well is a right and responsibility of everyone. It is a moral, political, and spiritual obligation each person owes their ancestors and their heirs. It is not a lifestyle option. It is a birthright and a debt.
Culture activist, worker, author ~ Stephen teaches internationally and is the creator and principal instructor of the Orphan Wisdom School, co-founded the school with his wife Nathalie Roy in 2010, convening semi-annually in Deacon, Ontario, and in northern Europe.
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[@carolbiberstein5815]

About 20 years ago, I nearly died. It was a day in late February and I was coming home from work on my bicycle. There was loose salt on the road but no snow. I came out from behind a row of shops where there was an underground parking. I was suddenly surprised to see a pick up truck backing up from there at full speed. I tried to get out of the way by turning my handlebars suddenly. This wasn't smart because it caused the front wheel of my bike to skid on the loose salt. The bike fell over wedged between my legs. I shot my arm out instinctively to stop the fall. The sudden impact caused the bones in my elbow to get crushed. So now I was lying on the ground on my crushed elbow withe the bike between my legs and the pick up truck still coming full tilt towards me. Actually the pick up truck came over me and the back of it blocked out the sky from my view. One of the back wheels was revving to get over my body. I wanted to get away but then I realized and accepted that it was impossible. Suddenly a very deep peace washed over me and I said, it's ok, I wasn't expecting to die this way but I accept it and it's ok. Something happened when I accepted that this was to be my moment of death. Suddenly the truck stopped and pretty soon a crowd gathered around. This is what I later learned. A man in a trench coat that no one recognized had stopped the truck by running to the passenger window and thrusting his hand right through the glass. The office women in the building across the road had seen it all. They happened to be standing at the window. They also called 911. After saving my life, the man in the trenchcoat disappeared, never to be found. I was taken to the hospital and my broken elbow was fixed but I had no other injuries. My bicycle had been crushed under the truck. My conclusion to this story is this. No one dies before their time and nothing can prevent you from dying when it's time for you to go. It wasn't my time to go. Since that time I have made a connection with God. Not through religion, but something very personal. If I had died then, who knows in which birth I would have made that connection, so I'm very grateful for what happened. Love and peace to you,. Carol

[@jane1044]

Amazing story and valid conclusion "no one dies before their time". Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@viviannaud6869]

Wow! It is an honor to hear your story. Your presence on this earth planet right now is a blessing. I thank God Almighty for giving you and all of us life, perfect health, faith and love eternal I love you Thank you

[@elizabethecarlisle1045]

@@viviannaud6869 Such a beautiful response 💕

[@zacharysimmons3968]

Thank you for this testimony, life has a way of peeling off the layers in such a magnificent way. I'm currently fighting back the deep feelings in my body that when I go into, feels as if I would surely die if I looked for even another moment. But on the bright side even though I'm attached to my body , I'm finding an unexpected appreciation for the body and my seeming ability to use my will to direct it. I woke up today and felt such appreciation to be able to coherently wash the dishes and think about my body moving and it responding .

[@Franimally]

Thanks for this! It helped me remember a similar experience I had as a young child. A bike, a truck (and me sliding under it). My mother screaming. The truck stopped just in time, the wheel a few inches from me. It wasn't my time. Blessings to you, Carol.

[@Koort1008]

“This place is a dream. Only a sleeper considers it real. Then death comes like dawn, and you wake up laughing at what you thought was your grief.” Rumi

[@StephenS-2024]

Yeah.

[@gracie99999]

I think he also says something about a ‘tone’?

[@StephenS-2024]

@@gracie99999 it is rain that grows flowers. Not thunder.

[@Koort1008]

Row, row, row your boat gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily life is but a dream.

[@BushyHairedStranger]

I believe that’s the old Boo Hoo Credo.

[@Koort1008]

@@BushyHairedStranger What does the Boo Hoo Credo mean?

[@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively]

Hugh Prager, an early new age spiritual teacher offered it to teach meditation. Works well....

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Art Kleps & Jack Call were founders of the Neo-American Church. Art started it while living at Millbrook in 1965. Eventually the idea was taken to Northern California to 180 acre ranch and ran from 1972-1978. The ‘Boo Hoo Bible’ was written by Art and has become an important literary achievement for documenting the use of Sacraments in Free Religious groups in the Americas. Dennis Praeger, as mentioned above, was a bit different in that their ethos was more Christian more dogmatic..

[@Koort1008]

@@BushyHairedStranger Interesting tidbit. Thank you. BTW, 'Free Religious groups' sounds like an oxymoron to me. I have never experienced much Freedom in any group religion.

[@theunspeakable24]

I have been grieving my mom and younger sisters's death for several years. The quote @ 23:36 " to be brought low by death is a very honorable outcome to an honorably lived life." just released some holding pain in my being.

[@sueb6662]

💜

[@drjitters]

Something I like to bear in mind is that my parents would want me to be happy.

[@elizabethecarlisle1045]

I'm beside myself .... What a shining example of a human being. ❤️

[@debbieschrader3234]

RELIEVED! I am so touched by the depth of vulnerability and honesty of this beloved topic. Having lost a parent at 18 months of age.....................death..........................the reality of it, has been my search for TRUTH above all else for 64 years now. Ask and ye shall receive............................spirit will always comfort those who inquire with transparency and humility. Of the flesh, flesh and finitude, of the spirit, infinity and a never ending desire for more meaning.

[@iankenney6602]

I worked on my fear of death for quite a long time. Now I feel excited for it, but obviously i am in no rush to get there. There are many answers I know I will never be able to get until I cross the veil. After I felt confident that there is no longer a fear of death anywhere in my mind, body, soul, I decided that there was still something hanging over my head and attempting to impose fear on me. That is why my latest personal work is based on finding a way to overcome not just the fear of dying but the fear of going to some eternal torture after I die (hell). Although I have no reason to believe this would happen, I have still realized that my behavior sometimes trips me up and can make it more difficult for my mind to freely wander through whatever thought processes it is drawn to wander through. Death is the universal fear, it seems, whereas hell is like a metaphoric trump card that religion will threaten to use if any of us dare to question the benefits of the system at its most fundamental nature in a way that could possibly threaten the foundations of permanence of these religions in our cultures. So, my thought is, if I can learn to be comfortable and content just being with myself and I can further master patience, then I no longer have anything hanging over my head that says I am not free to think the way I want to think and/or that I must continously suffer all my life in order to grow as a person... Nah, i dont buy it. I see a future where people are accustomed to living in complete freedom and are brave enough to reject the suffering that the generational patriarchal wheel cannot help but try to impose on them. We have been stuck in a world in which the sins of the father are passed on and accepted by the children through the medium of suffering. After 2,000 years of this, we now look around and see nothing but suffering..as it is widely accepted that victims of abuse typically grow up to become abusers themselves.

[@timbaker266]

Very well done 👏 thank you

[@cbrashsorensen]

So much wisdom. How Stephen ended with the last two questions should be enough to rock you toward awareness. We can't "fetishize" some Indian spiritual practice or Native American practice as a way to avoid the work of death. He was both blunt and tender with the social worker - don't waste your time in the "death trade" when death comes knocking at YOUR door. NOW is the time to both live and die. Yes indeed.

[@granroble7191]

This moment we have in this realm is a gift of experience. What we do with this gift is up to each of us. We have free will regardless of illusory chains that bind us. Live full, live passionately. The personal challenges we face are little more than our pieces of the mysterious puzzle. Fearing death, (the inevitable), is a waste of precious moments. Embracing death fanatically, is just as wasteful. Treat every second as though it were our last. Live from our hearts. Express gratitude for each lesson and gift we are given. Be your own guru. Don’t get caught up and lost in another’s idea of meaning or lack there of. Much Love Fellow Journeyers.

[@missshroom5512]

I lost my only grandparent at 73- 19, my older brother at 33- 21, my Dad at 61- 24, my other older brother at 30-27 The second number was my age when they dies. As you can see… that was 4 male family members within a 8 year period. Death has been a part of me for along time. I am 52 now. Either having gone thru the change of life or now that I am closer to being with them all has made it easier but it has been a long road. I also had a Mom that never was the same so I lived my adult life with a Mom who was never really there and pretty much checked out…alive but dead. Talk about never really talking to anyone about this..that was me… nobody talked about death …nobody especially at the ages I was had death in their life like I did. I have come a long way and have endured having to eventually except this was who I was 🤔 I can say they have lived thru me and I have felt them the older I got and the more I became aware that they were around. It is curious and I love to be curious so it makes a good match now I suppose❤️🌎✌🏼

[@theifrancken1650]

❤️

[@sitaiyer7161]

Am from India.where even death is celebrated. But still greatly inspired by being exoposed to a new way of looking at death.

[@adilk100]

he is cracking my mind ... so grateful to find him on my path

[@Daniel-Six]

Such a pleasure to listen to someone so wise and well-spoken...

[@t.m.8339]

Talking about the guest and certainly not about the hosts...

[@rmdosb1]

The Rule of St. Benedict, Chapter 4, verse 47: Always keep death before your eyes.🌻 Mortem cotidie ante oculus suspectam habere.🕊️

[@jensterooniam]

Thanks so much for this deep and powerful conversation.

[@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively]

I love HOW...HOW do I practice....living? NO back to normal!!! I have served many. Deep gratitude. Bless you Stephen. I am a friend of Ian's. ♥️

[@gracie99999]

how=why not

[@HSIves1]

Muchas gracias from México... I look forward to hearing Stephen live in concert. Deepest thanks for providing the platform for this interview. I never tire of seeing you two and appreciating your manner of facilitating!

[@JonasAnandaKristiansson]

Beautiful mind and heart, S Jenkinson. And/However, at around 15:00 minutes, the core of my Being needs to exert that No, I will not die 'one day'. This person, this form, this temporary finite body-mind will as it were "die", but I, the Self/Atman/Brahman, neither begins at birth, or ends with death. Om Namah Shivaya

[@sharonsaunders6895]

I have to say I've been afraid of life and death, lived a mundane, mean existence, I hope it's not too late to learn how to do both well. At nearly 65, who knows. Thanks for sharing.

[@merryfergie]

Life is always there for you.

[@kristinabliss]

Every day is a new day.

[@pedrohenriquedeoliveira5601]

so thankful for this session. I feel inspired. thanks ❤

[@jameshenderson8873]

The Absolute brilliance that we have come to know and love from this Master Wordsmith shines herein. This may be my current vote as "fave", were I to recommend a single offering to someone extrawhelmed by the volume of material available by Master Jenkinson. I would add that Iccha Mrityu and Nidra Yoga might be topics of research for the seeker / someone interested in the approaches venerated by Sanatana Dharma. Know acception. Peace..

[@mary-anncarleton7578]

Hydroponic spirituality, good one !

[@lisacasson1911]

Zaya and Maurizio .. one step closer to having Stephen and Gabor in the same circle, I hope 🧡

[@loripinello5501]

Love this brilliant man!

[@DanielStollmeyer]

Feeling seen. Recognized that this dilemma is the unconquerable, and only through full acceptance - living with a reverence for death - will the surrender be victory.

[@GEB895]

my tuppence worth: the wisdom that comes with age, is only because of experiences of self and others, through observation, and realisation of a better or different way.

[@constancewalsh3646]

"I was indigenous once." Thank you for this!! Whites also have tribal, earth-based spirits and origins. My Native American partner reminds me of this when I tend to whine with reverse judgement of race and culture. Please let me add that Stephen's take on early elder-hood notwithstanding, there is a generation after my own boomer generation who were born when Pluto was in the sign of Scorpio. Meaning that millions who came into bodies during that specific cycle have known suffering at an early age almost universally, and consequently can carry an 'old soul' aura and maturity even very young. It isn't necessary to be familiar with the language of astrology to notice these young adults now in their late 20s to mid 30s. Serious, sensitive, often having great difficulty in this world. I only learned of Stephen Jenkinson today from a friend. Thank you to her and to you beautiful hosts and to Stephen for this exciting presentation.

[@erikwong9456]

A very wonderful video and great work.

[@robini.1338]

Thank you all… Robin🤗🌺

[@gracie99999]

🌱

[@GEB895]

Regarding the 'death phobia' and euthanasia, it's the same as the tendency in these times, to avoid natural birth. Most women are made to feel they need pain control, or a Caesar. I find this to be so sad!! A young woman recently asked me about natural birth, she said that nobody else that she knew had experienced it.

[@mary-anncarleton7578]

Beautiful ❣️

[@sandrabarrazaardiles]

Fabulous!! Thank you.

[@gurbaxsinghgadhoke4224]

for 1 to 2 minutes simply feel what you feel acknowledge the meaningless letdowns betrayl lies hurts with a uncondemning mental outlook voicing it as your experience that experienced . kindah like reliving the sensations without getting onto the activitoes of labelling

[@gurbaxsinghgadhoke4224]

GURBAX SINGH GADHOKE 1 second ago or trying to evalute or cognise or understand anything about all any experience.. Stay so for a few minutes as is ok n possible 4 u Just know it is safe allowed ok easy doable right to do .

[@organicbrain7029]

This couple Is 100% New Age " love and light" 😉

[@StephenS-2024]

Very interesting.

[@erikwong9456]

I have a question to host. If death is illusion ,then birth is also illusion. Because both belongs to time. So the life is also illusion but living is not an illusion. because it has no starting nor ending point, one can not separate it. What is your opinion about it.?

[@JohnDoe-vt8oq]

Well time is an illusion as well. The experience is a experience through our awareness which is collective. We are All one, dispute the reality of this illusion which is just a separation of God. Formless seeking form

[@davidherz9968]

with birth you're there, but unaware, with death you're not, and awareness is not of this sphere

[@sonyapuskas5810]

I've gone to the road trip show in Montreal :Nights of Grief and Mystery" It was wonderful and memorable !!

[@andrewbivens3369]

Much better, grateful

[@shamanverse]

And just as much, there are other fields, where myth and metaphor reach limits and death teaches. Death as the great emptying out of all that I can ruminate about. A deep clearing where the immediacy and vividness of participation are sufficient truths for my liberated presence. A timeless spring. More of this these days is who I am thus far.

[@Meejateacher]

Thqnkyou

[@carolinebarnes6832]

There is a wonderful Welsh word, 'hiraeth' that is totally an expression of the longing in this meaning. Hiraeth has nothing to do with desire.

[@truthfulplanet8767]

Chasing money for survival has heightened the fear of death over the centuries and is today paroxystic - hence our moral duty to end the current system and restart everything from scratch based on benevolence (without money) - I have been blogging about this for almost 5 years

[@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively]

The most subjective is the most objective. Humanity revealed...uniquely. Truth for me is a gestalt.

[@themovingdance2744]

Death phobic ….I mention death to my sister and mother ….they freak out. I nearly died in late 2012 with the worst pain in my back which got bigger and bigger. I knew it was the wrong kind of pain. I was scared of waking my friend up …imagine ??? I eventually woke him up and said I think I need to go to the hospital. I went on my own in a taxi. I could hardly walk into the emergencies and then I was there on the machines and spent 3 weeks getting to know my mortality. My family did not recognise death at all. It freaked them out. I saw a light tunnel at the end of a dark hole…it was so bright it woke me up to the present moment. I haven’t really had any big awakenings since. I notice the flowers everyday, my feelings about pain and where suffering starts ……i lost my ambition to be a ‘job’. My body was not happy with modern life and pressure after. I was homeless, familyless, workless and had no time as I worked to pay my hostel bed for a year. It went on and on. So, In fact 10 years later it seems this world is on a strange path of destroying the planet and each other and trying to rectify the damage in science….makes no sense at all. Look after plants, animals, bees, insects, and so on….

[@andrewbivens3369]

We have it all backwards this whole world is upside down death is life and life is death

[@camwilliams1]

I am also honored, Thank you all

[@agypsyrover]

We are all in the queue

[@eeronarhi5469]

The one who knows that i am going to die is not even born. I am not the consciousness i am the knower of the consciousness and that is the reality.

[@movieng]

Truth

[@78hopper]

Maybe this is why I am so intrigued by older cultures, and I have this longing just never the proper words to explain until now. These older cultures in the undeveloped world are disappearing as the younger generations abandon there heritage and culture, when they are gone we will have lost something precious that this world desperately needs.

[@bryceheyn9000]

In watching this video, I see an alternate universe where Robin Williams starred in a movie about Stephen Jenkinson and then decided to not commit suicide.

[@JupiterMoonTune]

When was this artifact recorded?

[@jane1044]

They refer to 6 months into the pandemic as current time

[@Koort1008]

Earth, wind, fire, etc, you are none of these. You are the Self.

[@Sainthood101]

On the contrary when I am afraid of something I dive straight into it.. It is the least thing that I run from and I realize that that is rare but just know that I am sharing this so that you don't think that that's the norm. I'm proud to be a free thinker and a free feeler please know that there are many of us out here .. thanks

[@chinookvalley]

I guess I am a Samurai Warrior. I've been here forever, and I can't seem to leave the place that I have been held prisoner by my body. Headlong into the next battle; I keep coming out alive. I don't fear death, but long for and wish it's embrace. My friends and family, pets and pleasure have gone on ahead.

[@specialeeffexx]

Me too Captain!! 😍🥰🤩

[@iankenney6602]

You and me both. Whats that phrase from TV? "Me and the captain, make it happen"? Captain Crunch 90's commerical, I think Lol. I hear you, though, its gotten to the point where fear is like a great thrill to me. Nothing is more exciting to me than finding myself in a nightmare of being on foot and turning onto an abandoned street to find myself face to face with the horseman of death or one that left no doubt that a large group were congregating in my basement and when I went down to catch them, finding nothing but a bouncing ball and a bunch of folding chairs spread out for a type of meeting which was eerie because it was right after I had just stacked them all up in one pile before heading upstairs. There was this feeling of certainty that there were other beings living underground that were somehow able to enter that underground sealed up room at will. Then there was the ritualized psychedelic trip or even some deep meditations where I encounter visions of what most people would consider demons that appear so monstrous and incomprehensible that at times would try to frighten me. The last one I remember, I believe I was being tested to see whether I could really allow myself to completely let go of the need to avoid death or if it was just something I would just tell myself out of some egoic habit. So, I let the guide take me to the deepest level possible where I was tested to see if I would let them run my head through some kind of table saw. Once my fear of death was certain in that situation, it was pretty humorous, I remember thinking "seriously? Well, I guess if you need to do this act of destroying me in such horrific methods, thats kinda messed up, but hey, go to town" I still remember the feeling of that wind of the blades whirring as they were just reaching my head. I was kind of shocked that the vision used was so dramatic.. the funny thing is, on the way down to that level (there was a kind of descending elevator feeling as if I was being taken to the very depths of hell), I even passed the circle of hell designated for souls stuck in lust. It was this yellow cushiony space and oddly enough was filled white bunny rabbits just chilling without a care in the world. I was curious to see what other spectacles were in that place and I was given the option to stay there for the rest of the trip but that night I was on a mission to experience something significant, hoping to get some kind of spiritual growth out of the experience. So I opted for getting tortured with great needles stabbing into me and then getting layed out on a tablesaw and being run through the blade ever so slowly like the anticipation of the moment of death was intended to add an extra element of panic. Anyway, hopefully you enjoyed those experiences as much as I did. I still have to wonder, though, if I will truly be that brave whenever that real moment of death comes, but how can one ever know for sure? I guess you just have to keep turning into the fear instead of trying to avoid it or look away. At least thats my best guess. Anyway, I think you're wise to act the way you described. If you can overcome the fear of death, then everything else should be a piece of cake. And by practicing facing your fears head on, you will certainly become braver and more capable of accomplishing whatever you desire. I feel like our worst fears are the ones that we need to force ourselves to find the strength to overcome as early in life as possible. That way we can develop the courage to stand firm in our uniqueness and beliefs when everyone else wants to make us go along with the madness of the herd. Dont get me wrong, I love people, but I only really trust them to be strong enough to do what they believe is right on a one-on-one level. There's a madness that can easily develop amongst impassioned crowds. I think my biggest fear is being swept up into that madness..or being on the receiving end of it.. Wow, I sure went all the way on that one, huh?

[@organicbrain7029]

Stephen doesn't understand that many people dying from cancer are in incredible (unberable ) pain

[@davidherz9968]

you did not listen to the talk, go to the 45 minute mark

[@leonaneighbour5604]

Soul affirming to letting go.

[@euclidofalexandria3786]

40;02 no i have some data you might want to know, what can happen is a different intelligence takes over that is simply beyond the frailties of our bodies, and it can actually perpatuate your consciousness in abject pain, and also beyond... its true...

[@garycox3841]

Yes, death phobic. I wonder if it is a huge contributor to our mass consumerism?

[@heathersmith5237]

No doubt in my mind it is.

[@troygoss6400]

As I listened to this dialog, I thought death of the individual and death of the collective as in the faerie tale of green energy and the collapse of the environment.

[@busheybushdawg]

This guy reminds me of a cross between robin Williams and “the wolf” from pulp fiction

[@_arkadal8910]

Nobody dies young. We die on time. In fact, time, only, and Absolutely, finally appears at that final place marker ⚪⚫🔴🌕

[@caseygroves]

Edmund…from Long Day’s Journey into Night By Eugene O’Neill [Toward the end of Act 4. Edmund is speaking to his father, James Tyrone] EDMUND: You’ve just told me some high spots in your memories. Want to hear mine? They’re all connected with the sea. Here’s one. When I was on the Squarehead square rigger, bound for Buenos Aires. Full moon in the trades. The old hooker driving fourteen knots. I lay on the bowsprit, facing astern, with the water foaming into spume under me, the masts with every sail white in the moonlight, towering high above me. I became drunk with the beauty and the singing rhythm of it, and for a moment I lost myself-actually lost my life. I was set fee! I dissolved in the sea, became white sails and flying spray, became beauty and rhythm, became moonlight and the ship and the high dim-starred sky! I belonged without, past or future, within peace and unity and a wild joy, within something greater than my own life, or the life of Man, to Life itself! To God if you want to put it that way. Then another time, on the American line, when I was lookout in the crow’s nest on the dawn watch. A calm sea, that time. Only a lazy ground swell and a slow drowsy roll of the ship. The passengers asleep and none of the crew in sight. No sound of man. Black smoke pouring from the funnels behind and beneath me. Dreaming, not keeping lookout, feeling alone, and above and apart, watching the dawn creep like a painted dream over the sky and sea which slept together. Then the moment of ecstatic freedom came. The peace, the end of the quest, the last harbor, the joy of belonging to a fulfillment beyond men’s lousy, pitiful, greedy fears and hopes and dreams! And several other times in my life, when I was swimming far out, or lying alone on the beach, I have had the same experience. Became the sun, the hot sand, green seaweed anchored to a rock, swaying in the tide. Like a saint’s vision of beatitude. Like the veil of things as they seem drawn back by an unseen hand. For a second you see-and seeing the secret, are the secret. For a second there is meaning! Then the hand lets the veil fall and you are alone, lost in the fog again, and you stumble on toward nowhere, for no good reason! (He grins wryly) It was a great mistake my being born a man, I would have been much more successful as a seagull or a fish. As it is I will always be a stranger who never feels at home, who does not really want and is not really wanted, who can never belong, who must always be a little in love with death!

[@katariinakuusk3501]

💞💞💞

[@gracie99999]

💕

[@gracie99999]

hey come ur hearts fancier hen mine 🧙🏼‍♀️🧚🏿‍♂️🌱🍄

[@BushyHairedStranger]

1:11:22,…Agreed. Drug Community needs to pay attention to this, especially Psychedelic/Entheogen practitioners(whatever that equates to…)

[@MrMultiAfrican]

No sound

[@Revolution-tl5wo]

Just one thing... what's the death trade?

[@gracie99999]

life preparation for death

[@davidherz9968]

hospices, etc, massive industry

[@erikwong9456]

I have a question to host. If time does not exist in Reality then do you separate yourself from the people who lived 2 thousands ago, if it is one and same moment. What is your opinion?

[@Koort1008]

Stories. What is prior to the stories? What is two thousand years ago without a story, a memory, or a thought? What is time without a story, a memory, or a thought?

[@JoSpring]

Both.

[@erikwong9456]

@@Koort1008 If it is not a story, if it is not a memory,if it is not a thought.The light of stars reached to you which disappeared millions of years ago.

[@erikwong9456]

@@JoSpring please explain further.

[@Koort1008]

@@erikwong9456 Still a story of stars, light, time, and coming and going. Relative. All is an appearance that appears to an appearance that appears to appear.

[@samiyam3949]

How are commandments not divine?

[@theoneinhidingart6164]

58:50

[@gurbaxsinghgadhoke4224]

emptionally neutral in response to the pr3sence of all that is can be was isnt cant be wasnt ..

[@euclidofalexandria3786]

you must consider some points before you get carried away with your nihilism, first of all is it something that consciousness actually prefers or wants? can coherent light domain be made either from the vacuum or an organic body, think of when you die and you see your corpse... begins there, and yes, look to the controll of decay processes for the vacuum. it may be that there is a unknowing boundary which nihilism represent due to those at the top who have had it gooooooooooooooood for a very long time... the heaven that can endure literally beyond all time and forever literally is that of the bodhsattva, those who help tirelessly and need breaks, imagine if you will helping for say a cycle of this species... thats a lot.

[@andrewbivens3369]

Since your consciousness is actually the consciousness of God your death was when you entered the human skull as a consciousness upon birth

[@gurbaxsinghgadhoke4224]

or trying to evalute or cognise or understand anything about all any experience.. Stay so for a few minutes as is ok n possible 4 u Just know it is safe allowed ok easy doable right to do .

[@ioofsf]

"death is a g-d". profound

[@robertschriek812]

Ive never seen anything wrong with death, eternal life seems like a very bad thing imho.

[@Doriesep6622]

intro far too long. starts at 4:06

[@kenbranaugh8251]

Hippies

[@davidherz9968]

in this day and age; a vast compliment!

[@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively]

Beautiful. Longing vs desire. 🌹🙏🏽 My death will be interesting...I am allergic to drugs. I watched my sister uncomfortably shake as she died. I ask for a small upping of a muscle relaxant. I knew it was for me not her but yet she rested. I would like that.

[@olasylvia1]

We would be more like the ancIent Egyptians .

[@geoffreyvisser4349]

I now want to experience death.

[@davidherz9968]

you are, in small almost homeopathic doses, every instant, unless you are taken out by a bus...

[@janamatheson1995]

Too much thinking. Let’s just live and die or not…

[@mmm-ic8gs]

Huh???🤪🥴🧐

[@andrewbivens3369]

Concepts from Neville Goddard

[@toltacoatl]

climate collaps: only a mentally/cognitive undergifted person could use such diction.

[@numoonmystic7864]

Mmm. Gorgeous.

[@Koort1008]

Oh, come on lady and gentleman... really? This LIFE AND DEATH talk under the banner of science and non-duality. Who is dying, who is being born? Aren't we past this relative narrative? LMAO

[@Koort1008]

@@lizafield9002 Everyone is where they are on their so-called spiritual journey. Me included. I just found it hella humorous to hear this kind of talk from a channel called Science and Non-duality. To me, it is like seeing pork bacon on the menu at a vegan restaurant. LOL.

[@Koort1008]

@@lizafield9002 Btw, I am a nurseryman and sell plants for a living. I know know what dirt is. And I know what fertilizer is, too.

[@Koort1008]

@@_TB808 LMAO. There is no birth, no death. Can't you see that life is a dream? It's an appearance that appears to appear.

[@Koort1008]

@@_TB808 There is no doer. It's not hard to get this. There is no doer.

[@davidherz9968]

@@Koort1008 well who done did the above?